Wolf Creek

[LegionX]

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it was supposed to be the vacation of a lifetime in the Australian Outback - full of fun, sun and adventure. But what happened to a trio of twenty-something backpackers took a wrenching detour into the depths of unrelenting terror. Based on true events, "Wolf Creek" is the haunting story of their unthinkable ordeal - a mounting white-knuckle nightmare so real it was destined to become horror legend.
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Starring: Cassandra Magrath, John Jarret, Kestie Morassi, Nathan Phillips, Andy McPhee
Directed by: Greg McLean
Produced by: Greg McLean, David Lightfoot

The Review:
I thought that I had my fair share of really bad movies this year but damn I guess it wouldnt be complete without seeing the very weird Christmas horror release such as "Wolf Creek". I personally wanted to see Memoirs of a Geisha but oh well I'll check it out tomarrow. This film was shot in the same way as Open Water and in case of you remember "Open Water" was not the greatest movie. This film looks like it was shot with a hand held camera throughout and had very poor character development. The setting was not the greatest in the world and the plot was very empty and has definelty been done a hundred times over. The funny thing about this movie that I really enjoyed was the Crocadile Dundee quote for his knife. That got us all laughing but other than that this film is very dull, boring (trust me I took an hour nap watching this), and has been done a hundred times before, much better. The movie consisted of poor dialogue and the editing was horribly done. So if you are at the cinema and looking for something to watch on Christmas day, please by all the things that are holy, stay away from this movie at any cost.

2/10

[Joshmo]

This movie may well indeed suck. When I read a "real review" from someone who doesnt claim to have fallen asleep for an HOUR but yet wants the trust of others that the movie sucked then I can make up my mind.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I can't tell how badly I want to see this movie. The internet buzz is promising and it looks pretty good, although after High Tension (4/10), I'm wary of foreign horror releases.

[dfd3657]

Hmm. I haven't been hearing anything but positive buzz around this movie. All of the reviews I have read (from the website I usually agree with) have been highly positive, and I'll still be seein it on Monday (not going on Christmas cause I'll have too many other movies to watch :p). Here's some of the reviews:

http://joblo.com/arrow/reviews.php?id=962

http://www.horrorview.com/Wolf%20Creek%20US.htm

http://www.horrorwatch.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1146

http://www.horrorchannel.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=644

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/reviews/wolfcreek.htm

http://66.118.191.105/~slasherp/htm/reviews/wolfcreek.htm

http://www.beardyfreak.com/rvwolf.php

It sounds like Ebert is morally opposed to the film. He gave it zero stars (like he did with I Spit on Your Grave).

[LegionX]

Originally posted by Joshmo
This movie may well indeed suck. When I read a "real review" from someone who doesnt claim to have fallen asleep for an HOUR but yet wants the trust of others that the movie sucked then I can make up my mind.

LOL real review....hahahah thats funny. anyways with that bullshit aside, go waste your money then. It wont bother me any. If you feel the need to prove me wrong then go see it for yourself. Then come back and point out where it was good. Maybe then you'll get my respect but for now, It my opinion of the film and if you dont like or agree with it I dont really give a shit.

[ilovemovies]

If Ebert gave it Zero Stars then maybe I'll like it afterall! :D

[Terror Australis]

This is my first full fledge review. So be gentle....

About a few months back my family and I were staying in a town over night while coming back from a couple of days holiday, when I found out that the local cinema was playing a weekend only special screenings of the Aussie horror film "Wolf Creek".

Since the beginnig of the year I have been hearing a lot things about the film. How it got raves from both from the Sundance and Cannes Film Festivals, debuting at number 2 at the U.K. box office and Quentin Tarantino is such huge fan of both the film and star John Jarratt that he owns his own reel of the film and is writing parts for John Jarratt for his upcoming films "Grindhouse" and "Inglorious Bastards".

So, of course being the horror film fan that I am I had to go check it out, I grabed my older cousin and we went to see it. So does it live up to the hype? The answer to that is....yes.

Read on....

Here's the plot in case you didn't know, inspired by true events (the Ivan Milat backpacer murders and the Peter Falconio case) the film tells the story of three backpackers (two British and one Aussie) who decide to drive out into the outback to visit Wolf Creek National Park which is the sight of giant meteor crater. When their car breaks down, a friendly bushman comes along and helps them out by taking the car his place to fix it. What happens next is a night of terror....

Well I can tell my heart was pounding in my chest the enitre time. Writer & Director Greg McLean, in his film debut, has crafted a terrifing, brutal, disturbing and, most importantly, a realisic horror film. Beautifully shot on HD digital video, it captures the beautiful and isolated landscape of the Australian outback. The semi-doco style of the look film works effectively, you can't help but feel like a voyuer as watch these things happen to the characters. The violence in the film, while not graphic, is show in a way that when happens you feel it.

What I liked about "Wolf Creek" is that it is a old fashioned slow burn horror/thriller. Unlike most horror films these days that relay on having loud "boo!" scares and lots of fast cuts and let the action happen right away, this film takes it time so that we get to know and care about characters (about 45-50 minutes to be exact) so when the horror begins we, as audiance, are terrified of the things that are happening to them.

The three leads Liz (Cassandra Magrath), Kristy (Krestie Morassi) and Ben (Nathan Phillips) all give likeable and real performances as the backpackers. The way they acted with each other so real that I felt that I was friends with them too. When the nightmare begins for them, you feel every pain and agony that they suffer, all three dive into their terror mode with utter realism. When they scream, we believe. Bravo to all three who all give great performances.

Now lets to the performance that you want to hear about, the performance of.......John Jarratt. His performance as Mick Taylor is absolutely one of the most sick, creepy and frighenting characters to be put on the screen in a long time and that I stand by. When we first meet him (I knew long before he was playing the villain) he is down right funny and likeable but when his true side is show we can't that believe it's the same man. John Jarratt, who happens to be one of the nicest guys to Aussie film & T.V., portrays us the dark side of man that we hope and pray that we never see in our lives. What scared me most about the character is that when we first meet him, the way he acts and talks, it reminds me of people that I know and that scares me. He is a true monster, a man who kills out of his own sick pleasure, in other words he does it for "fun". While I can talk on about his performance, I garantee that you will feel the same I do....it's completey unforgatteble.

Another thing you may notice in my review are words "real", "realism" and "realistic". The way it's shot and they it's acted it feels true and real , so real that in a way it's like watching a doco and that I believe this is how the film works. What also scared me was that it could happen, you see Aussie and overseas backpackers disapeer all time in Australia and some are never heard from again.

Okay, is there anything I didn't like about the film? Well there are few times when some of the characters do the "dumb horror movie move" mistake and I wish there was a little more in the end of the film.

"Wolf Creek", I believe, is one of the best of the "survival" horror genre since the original "TThe Texas Chainsaw Massacre". It might be hard for the average moviegoer but for horror fans, it is a must see. One of the best films of the year. A true horror film.

My rating:

Wolf Creek - 4.5/5

[Joshmo]

Originally posted by LegionX
LOL real review....hahahah thats funny. anyways with that bullshit aside, go waste your money then. It wont bother me any. If you feel the need to prove me wrong then go see it for yourself. Then come back and point out where it was good. Maybe then you'll get my respect but for now, It my opinion of the film and if you dont like or agree with it I dont really give a shit.

Sorry, the REAL BULLSHIT is you coming on and trying to act like you are giving a review but yet admitting you slept for a fucking hour but yet want to get other peoples trust. Now YOU go back and watch the fucking thing, stay the fuck awake and if you still dont like it fine...give a logical review and maybe your opinion will have some value. :rolleyes:

[LegionX]

Originally posted by Joshmo
Sorry, the REAL BULLSHIT is you coming on and trying to act like you are giving a review but yet admitting you slept for a fucking hour but yet want to get other peoples trust. Now YOU go back and watch the fucking thing, stay the fuck awake and if you still dont like it fine...give a logical review and maybe your opinion will have some value. :rolleyes:

listen you dumb shit If I ever in my life get bored so badly that I have nothing left to do but watch this movie again there is going to be the same result. Z's! If the movie is not entertaining enough to keep me awak why would I endorse it for anyone else to watch? Think about it you fucking retard. If you went to watch a movie.....Fell asleep in it due to its lack of entertainment, and woke up thinking the same thing would you give it a good review or even tell someone else to watch it....or would you be smart (as it is apparant that your not) and tell them that its lack of entertainment can put someone to sleep (as it did me)? If someone wants to see it after that said then so what.... let them. I wont think anything less of them for going to see it. And as for you saying my opinion has no value because I fell asleep while watching a boring ass movie.......Listen I hate to be the bearer of bad news but everyone's opinion hold value. Even your stupid ass opinion of my review. If my opinion held no value then why the fuck did you open you mouth about it? :cool:

[AWP82]

CHILLAX, BOTH OF YOU!!! It's only a movie. So one of you hated it, big deal. It's nothing to get all pissy about.

Originally posted by LegionX
LOL real review....hahahah thats funny. anyways with that bullshit aside, go waste your money then. It wont bother me any. If you feel the need to prove me wrong then go see it for yourself. Then come back and point out where it was good. Maybe then you'll get my respect but for now, It my opinion of the film and if you dont like or agree with it I dont really give a shit.

Maybe I'm a dunce but I wouldn't have taken that "real review" comment too seriously in the first place if I were you. I simply took it as if he wasn't gonna let one little bad review out of many other good ones deter him from seeing it, and so what? It's not about proving anyone wrong. What you hate he may like, and if he ends up liking it, his money will be well spent. Why should he only get your respect if he ends up hating the movie like you did? You can both disagree and respect each other. Just sayin'...

Now kiss and make up, both of you... :D

EDIT: For the record, I won't be letting one bad review deter me either. I'm still psyched to see this! I'll be there on christmas day. If it sucks, at least I'll have paid matinee price.

[LegionX]

Originally posted by AWP82
CHILLAX, BOTH OF YOU!!! It's only a movie. So one of you hated it, big deal. It's nothing to get all pissy about.
Maybe I'm a dunce but I wouldn't have taken that "real review" comment too seriously in the first place if I were you. I simply took it as if he wasn't gonna let one little bad review out of many other good ones deter him from seeing it, and so what? It's not about proving anyone wrong. What you hate he may like, and if he ends up liking it, his money will be well spent. Why should he only get your respect if he ends up hating the movie like you did? You can both disagree and respect each other. Just sayin'...

Now kiss and make up, both of you... :D

EDIT: For the record, I won't be letting one bad review deter me either. I'm still psyched to see this! I'll be there on christmas day. If it sucks, at least I'll have paid matinee price.

lol :D I'll go along with that. The only thing that got me pissed is that he had the audacity of questioning my opinion. My only argument was that it was indeed my opinion. If he didnt like it I didnt care. Lots of people disagree with me and lots of people agree with me. He just happened to be one that got his panties in a wod because "I fell asleep" lol well last I checked if anyone falls asleep in a movie, it generaly means its pretty bad. So I based my review on just that. I agree 100% with your post and well :D respect it. I respect anyone who posts any reviews on here. It means you take interest in something that we all are on here posting about...MOVIES! lol just respect my opinion thats all I ask and I'm sure anyone who posts asks.

[AWP82]

Fair enough. :)

Speaking of falling asleep in movies, at risk of being shunned by all of humanity, that's what happened to me when I saw Kill Bill 1. Maybe I hit the bong a little too hard before seeing it, but I slept like a baby through that movie. Haven't bothered to see it again, never will...not interested.

[LegionX]

Originally posted by AWP82
Fair enough. :)

Speaking of falling asleep in movies, at risk of being shunned by all of humanity, that's what happened to me when I saw Kill Bill 1. Maybe I hit the bong a little too hard before seeing it, but I slept like a baby through that movie. Haven't bothered to see it again, never will...not interested.

lol :D i happened to stay wide awake during Kill Bill but it does raise a question of mine... I do wonder what this movie would look like stoned? I might have to give it a try. So Joshmo I just might do that.... I will watch Wolf Creek again. I just need my pipe and a nice bag of weed with me.;)

[AWP82]

Personally, if a movie isn't good on weed, it just isn't good period. Weed's an enhancement.

[Joshmo]

Number 1: and read this well.

I never attacked YOU personally with foul namecalling, just your worthless opinion.
And when someone admits to sleeping for such a large chunk of time but yet tries to give a review, that opinion is WORTHLESS.


Number 2:

Yeah, the audacity to question someone who admits to sleeping for an hour but yet comes on a board and wants others trust in his MOVIE REVIEW. Excuse me but am I missing something that needs to be present in a movie review?

Like being AWAKE and watching the thing?

And I'm called the fucking retard...

What are you 14 or something?

Wait its worse then that..you come across like a juvie, but you're actually gonna be 23 next month? :rolleyes:

[LegionX]

lol wow you my friend are so clever..... how do you come up with that shit? Look your an idiot and we are all cool with that. So do us all a favor and get your panties out of your ass and move on to another thread.

[slasherfan]

Ok, less flame war, more WOLF CREEK talk!

[Winston Wolfe]

LegionX has been banned from our board. I think you ALL know this by now, but we do NOT allow insults on our board.

If you can't hold yourself back, it's best to go elsewhere.

Respect.

[NightStalkerGtx]

damn... Well I'll try to check this out next week, but if i cant i'll wait for dvd because then i'll be seeing hostel.

[AWP82]

Oh well...I tried.

[KcMsterpce]

I had never knew about this movie until I saw a commercial spot for it a couple days ago (only see previews in theaters, and have no cable, except right now since I'm visiting family). My first thought was that it was HOSTEL, and then I was like "What the fuck is this movie?"

I thought it was something just coming out on DVD. Well, anyways, I don't know if it looks that great, but I'll probably see it regardless.

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by AWP82
Oh well...I tried.

I saw..they just dont listen do they.

[Joshmo]

I'm sorry that person got banned. I certainly wasnt looking for that to happen.

I love and breath movies and hate when someone wants another's trust (which that person asked for) but didnt even watch 3/4 of the movie. Thats lame. Better just to say, you fell asleep and were bored instead of trying to act like a movie pro while admitting sleeping and still say "trust me"... I take shit like that to heart.

I disagree more often than not with Madisons' reviews here, but I know reading his reviews will never be half assed and they are sincere. I rely on reviews when it comes to films I am on the fence about and even if I disagree, I still find value when they're done well.

[jaw2929]

*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

Nothin like watchin a Horror flick on X-mas day! :p

Anyway, I went to go see this one because the trailor made it look pretty decent... I don't really know what I was expecting from this one to be honest... Starts out introducing the 3 main characters, Aussie Ben and 2 English chicks (we'll call them big-tits and tiny-tits) go out to a place in the middle of nowhere Australia called "Wolf Creek"... It is the site of a meteor crater crash....

So they see the site, and then their car breaks down... They get help from a friendly Outbacker, and then things go from there....

It's basically your standard survival horror/thriller fare, with a coupla tense moments, but nothin that's not been done or seen before... I found the main killer to be quite hilarious at times, and there were few parts in the movie, where I was the only one laughin! :p

Anyhow, I hated how it was so slow to start in the beginning... Just some really unnecessarily drawn out parts that went on entirely TOO LONG.... I almost fell asleep a coupla times... I also didn't like how there were a buncha quick cuts and how amateurishly shot the flick was.... Oh and I really wanted the girl who played Big-tits to fucking DIE right away, her constant screaming and crying drove me fucking nuts!

Those aside, these are all no-name actors (least I don't know 'em :p) and it's basically just a rip off of movies such as Deliverance and Wrong Turn (though the latter is definately the best of this type of flick I've seen)

I wouldn't recommend wasting your time on this, as it was just nonsense... And the fact that it was based off of true events, didn't help it's cause any either....

[AWP82]

Yeah, I just saw it too. It wasn't all it was hyped up to be, but it was fairly decent despite the audience ruining my experience (check my rant in the rant forum).

[Digifruitella]

disappointing.

I don't want to review, but I'll just point out what I didn't like.

first of all, I want to give credit to the director of this film for establishing an eerie mood via its' images and music because whatever they were going for, it worked.

too..broad in length, the flick runs at 1.30+ minutes but it felt so long. I was bored most of the time. Horror fans will be left disappointed, not a whole lot of gore. I don't know what else to say. I simply didn't think it was great. It's leaning more towards bad, but it was just decent.

I saw this movie with a bunch of teens and people in 20's, some people started walking out right before the hunter started killing off his victims, they booed after left. Then people followed, about total of 15 people left. When the movie was finished people booed, I think I heard some clap..might be because they were happy it was over. A person next to me and a row below me kept checking the time.

Yeah, I began to realize that people didn't enjoy it. After the show finished I heard someone say something about Hostel, probably that they cant wait to see it.

yeah I didn't necessarily enjoy my time there either, and I waited about 3 hours in the movie theater just for this, since the previous show was sold out.

D from me. or 4/10

[Lazy Boy]

3/10

Australian horror reaches its nadir in this output, which is Crocodile Dundee: The Serial Killer without any imagination. While I appreciate slow builds to tension, this was ridiculous; it almost reminded me of Open Water, where nothing happens, nothing happens, nothing happens, something happens, perhaps of slight interest, movie over, start throwing paper cups at the screen. This proves that R-rated horror can be just as bad as PG-13. Who cares if a finger or two is severed? Extra gore does not make this any scarier.

[vote4pedro]

This is one of the worst movies of 2005. Taking Ebert & Roepert's line, this movie gets a Two Thumbs Way Down! I can't believe i got fooled into watching this movie. I can't even believe it, when my friend and i got to the theatre, we were welcomed with a bold Sold Out announcement for the 7:30 viewing of the film. We were like damn, this movie must really be good, but of course it didn't turn out as such. I can't believe i watched this over Munich or maybe even Dick & Jane. But it happened and i'm pissed. :mad:.

(Some Spoilers Ahead)
The first half of the movie was basically dry as the sajara desert. I know it was showing their last days and such, but that was just poorly done. Nothing interesting happened until the past the half way point of the movie, specifically when they're finally tied up and going crazy. Even yet, it was still not enough to save it. Furthermore, the ending was, well there really was no ending...for me at least. After the guy was taken to the city, it then cut to him being taken by detectives and then the caption which said the two girls were never found because of unreliable statements from the only survivor (guy) and other circumstance.

I think it would've been better if this movie was made as a documentary instead of a feature film or a straight to dvd movie.I think it was either lack of information or poor writing. It seemed like they got stuck developing the movie especially the beginning and the ending.

Well theres my two cents. If you're are still deciding wether to watch it, i'd say just wait for the dvd. 4/10.

Forgot to add this, but i agree 100% with all the negative reviews of this movie. I hope hostel aint remotely close to the quality of this crappy arse film.

[42ndStreetFreak]

No wonder most horror movies are crap today...they make them for the people on this thread!
Stick to "Freddy vs Jason" and REAL, compromised, wimpy crud like "Wrong Turn".

Dear me...and why are horror fans even bothering to quote someonethinn like Ebert? Dear me.

Too many on here failed to recognise an excellent, uncompromising work and I feel that is their loss.

Never you mind, another remake will be along soon. Or perhaps even another "Uran legend" sequel! Wow!

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by vote4pedro
This is one of the worst movies of 2005. Taking Ebert & Roepert's line, this movie gets a Two Thumbs Way Down! I can't believe i got fooled into watching this movie. I can't even believe it, when my friend and i got to the theatre, we were welcomed with a bold Sold Out announcement for the 7:30 viewing of the film. We were like damn, this movie must really be good, but of course it didn't turn out as such. I can't believe i watched this over Munich or maybe even Dick & Jane. But it happened and i'm pissed. :mad:.



This is pretty much the same story for me, my show at 8:20pm was sold out, and I bought a ticket for 10:50pm and WAITED almost 3 hours inside the theater, I was so disappointed. I also, watched this over Memoirs of a Geisha, which everybody says is BAD.

[Jerk Shapiro]

What the fuck?

Seriously, that's all I can manage to say. I went and saw this POS at 9:55 last night. I figured it would be good and scary, so I even took my old lady to see it with me.

No.

I could have been doing so many other, more productive things between 9:55 and 11:40 or so...Like...eating, or sleeping, or watching television...anything.

I wish there was really something I could say... I mean, like...I think 6 things happen in all during the movie, seriously. And sure, you could disssect those 6 things into tinier things and perhaps come out with a dozen things in all that happen during the film, but still...that's a dozen things that didn't entertain, scare, or enthrall me in the least little bit. Why in the fuck was this movie made? I could've shot it in my backyard in 48 hours and gotten the same effect for Christ's sake. Seriously...

To sum it up - I just farted - and I enjoyed it more than Wolf Creek.

2/10

[ChemicalRomance]

Sucks, I was kind of looking forward to this.

(And wow at LegionX being banned, he was a pretty frequent poster...)

[Duke Nukem]

I'm surprised by all your disappointment with this movie. It wasn't THAT bad.

I wasn't "bored" by the first half of the movie. I appreciated that they tried to make you care about the characters. You didn't learn every iota about them, but you saw how they interacted and got along, and I thought that was enough. It was called, AHEM, "character development." But, you never can win with that and horror movies, can you? If it's really gory, fast-paces, etc., they complain that it has no character development. And when it is builds up with the characters first before the suspense and action, it is considered "boring." Okay...

I did feel scared for the characters, at least a little scared. The script wasn't perfect, but it was no where near as "terrible" as some are describing. And what Arrow complained about, some lame decisions by the characters, I never picked up. To me, they were scared and didn't always do the right thing. It's called, feeling over logic. It can happen in a scary situation, and if anything, there were no major character dumbing-down or anything like that.

This was a simple-minded movie and there is nothing wrong with that. You hung around the guy/girls for a while, saw great Australiain scenery, got some good laughs, took a turn with the tow truck guy, got some suspense, saw some good death scenes and a lot of suspense and chases.

But, everyone's different...

[Lazy Boy]

Funny, I didn't see any "character development." I just saw some dumbass guy and two women being jackasses for an hour before the violence starts. Brief character sketches, perhaps, but nothing that would make me feel as if this wasn't anything more than some bad home video production.

[42ndStreetFreak]

:confused: :( :mad: :o :eek: :rolleyes:

The many emotions going through me at reading most of this thread.

I see why they opened it in the Uk first now! They went straight to the heart of appreciation for one of the best horror films to come along in a long while.

[moviegroupie]

Doesnt this come out on DVD in UK in like two weeks? Ha.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by moviegroupie
Doesnt this come out on DVD in UK in like two weeks? Ha.

It does. After a successful and critically praised cinema run.

Not sure if it's the kind of film that you would watch over and over though. It's savage power (for those who can see it) is very much down to a first, no knowledge of anything to come, viewing.

[MadsenOMC]

SPOILERS!!!!


I have extremely mixed feelings about this one. I have not been a fan of many horror films released this year, and a big part of that has been the directing. I hate the flashy visuals and quick cutting that so many young horror directors use these days. I think McLean's direction here is outstanding. He does an excellent job of displaying the isolation and vastness of the Australian countryside. You really feel like you are in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's eerie and appropriate for this film. I also loved his wide angle shots. IMO, McLean's directing is vastly superior to that of just about every other horror director this year. This guy knows his shit. I liked the acting by all four of the leads. It's well-made and there's a lot to admire. That said, I can't say I got much out of it. It has a familiar feel to it, and even though a few scenes are suspenseful and intense, I never found it all that scary. Plus, the characters repeatedly do dumb horror movie shit, which was highly aggravating. If nothing else, I am excited to see what McLean does next. I can't say that about too many young directors in the genre right now. They're a dime a dozen.

5/10

[Jerk Shapiro]

I usually wouldn't do this - but I just had to come back and rant about this piece of shit.

Character development? Shiiit. I've developed more three-dimensional characters on notebook paper in geography class for God's sake. We've got three "characters" being "developed" in the first hour and a half or so, but what do we actually learn about them? Well, nothing really. The guy, we don't know what the fuck his deal is. Is he a badass? Is he a tough guy? Is he a pussy? Who the fuck knows? How the fuck does he know these girls? (That might have been revealed but I probably missed it) And the two girls, well Goddamn - they weren't any different than the girls you've seen in any other horror movie for the past ten years. I mean, my God... This movie's basically the climax of a real horror movie stretched out into its own full-length horror movie. I mean something could have happened in the first hour...just because you're "developing your characters" doesn't mean you have to bore your audience to death before the "scary" shit starts to happen. I mean come on, now...if I wanted to watch three boring kids go on a camping trip and then get chased by a creepy guy in a big truck I'd take my friend's to the lake by Old Man Johnson's house...That would have been a helluva lot funner, and I wouldn't have wasted thirteen dollars.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Jerk Shapiro
How the fuck does he know these girls?

While I liked the performances and found the leads to be likeable people, I wondered about this as well. Very good question that is never answered.

[Duke Nukem]

Um, these are three people who already knew each other. Simple as that. No more explanation needed. Watch the beginning with the guy buying that cheap-ass car and the girls at beach talking about some guy...connect the dots...they were all on vacation together and planning to go to the Wolf Creek Crater...pay more attention to the movie next time.

I still feel there is some character development in this. It's not so much that you learn every iota about them, it's that you see how they interact and get along. In a way, it's a different kind of character development that gets you to like and care for the characters. One of the developments was that one of the girls kind of liked the guy and the guy kind of liked the girl...wink! wink! You don't always have to know everything about the characters and they don't have to spew monologues that explain all the tiniest intentions with them. Sometimes, you just have to "hang around them" listen to what they have to say.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by Duke Nukem
Um, these are three people who already knew each other. Simple as that. No more explanation needed. Watch the beginning with the guy buying that cheap-ass car and the girls at beach talking about some guy...connect the dots...they were all on vacation together and planning to go to the Wolf Creek Crater...pay more attention to the movie next time.

I still feel there is some character development in this. It's not so much that you learn every iota about them, it's that you see how they interact and get along. In a way, it's a different kind of character development that gets you to like and care for the characters. One of the developments was that one of the girls kind of liked the guy and the guy kind of liked the girl...wink! wink! You don't always have to know everything about the characters and they don't have to spew monologues that explain all the tiniest intentions with them. Sometimes, you just have to "hang around them" listen to what they have to say.

Some sense arrives in the Thread...Nice post.

[MadsenOMC]

Pay more attention to the movie? No need to be a smartass jerk man. Yes, one girl likes the guy. Yes, they are going on a road trip together. Yes, he is buying a car for the three of them to take the road trip in. Got all that. I did pay attention. But what about their past? Did they go to high school together? College? Are they childhood friends? Have they known each other for 5 years? 10? 6 months? Are they from the same town? We don't know. We don't learn the answers to any of those questions. How they know each other is left extremely vague at best. I wanted to know how they knew each other. It might have made the care about them more if I knew the history of their friendship and/or how and how long they all knew each other. Would it really have been that difficult to mention it? It seems like a gaping hole to me.

However, I do agree with you that there is at least some character development. Like I said, I liked the performances. Very natural. They seemed like real people, not your typical horror movie cliches.

[Jerk Shapiro]

Whoa...I'm not trying to get into it with anybody (I'll save that for a movie that's worth it)...and I respect your opinion on the flick and the character development and shit, but I'm just saying it's not MY kind of development. Not that there's anything wrong with anyone liking it, it's just not for me. Simple as that.

[AWP82]

Originally posted by Jerk Shapiro
and I wouldn't have wasted thirteen dollars.

THIRTEEN DOLLARS?!?! Goddamn, I can see why you were so pissed. What the hell kind of cineplex do you go to? I was lucky enough to spend 9 dollars, and that's bad enough.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Pay more attention to the movie? No need to be a smartass jerk man. Yes, one girl likes the guy. Yes, they are going on a road trip together. Yes, he is buying a car for the three of them to take the road trip in. Got all that. I did pay attention. But what about their past? Did they go to high school together? College? Are they childhood friends? Have they known each other for 5 years? 10? 6 months? Are they from the same town? We don't know. We don't learn the answers to any of those questions. How they know each other is left extremely vague at best. I wanted to know how they knew each other. It might have made the care about them more if I knew the history of their friendship and/or how and how long they all knew each other. Would it really have been that difficult to mention it? It seems like a gaping hole to me.


Who cares! It was of no importance. What has any of that to do with the characters when we met them?
You moan about it being long and boring to get anywhere (and I do agree that say 10 minutes could have been shaved off, but that's all) and then want it to spend more time on needless background.

Like I said in my review:

The strength of this lead up, to the fully fledged descent into hell the movie will take, gives us three very likeable, very real and totally engaging characters in Ben, Liz and Kirsty.
They are certainly a thankful and far cry from annoying American teen slasher fodder we normally get.
Here are three people who are fun loving but never unpleasant, jolly but never annoying with it. They are three people simply enjoying life and the wild beauty of the Australian outback they are all discovering (Ben is a city boy).

Liz and Kirsty share a close relationship and obviously look out for each other, Ben is handsome and fun seeking but always respectful to the girls, genuinely enjoys their company and the romance between him and Liz is sweet and realistic as it slowly, hesitantly blossoms.
By the time their car breaks down we not only like being in their company but really, even though we’ve been waiting for ‘the action’ to start, don’t want anything bad to happen to them.
For the first time in a very long time we have a movie that actually gives us strong, likeable characters to follow through the horror and even in a film as ripe with the stench of pure sadism as “Wolf Creek” is, that is a rare breath of fresh air indeed.


I do understand how the build-up can try the patience WHILE it is happening, but I fail to see how anyone can STILL think that after the film has finished.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak

You moan about it being long and boring to get anywhere (and I do agree that say 10 minutes could have been shaved off, but that's all) and then want it to spend more time on needless background.



When did I moan about the movie being too long? And I said that I liked the characters.

[mreeez]

I just got back from seeing it and boy was I disappointed. I think I expected too much from the ads I have seen about this film. To me it fell into the realm of being all too cliche, lost hikers meet bad out doorsie type folk blahblahblah. Seen it, been there, done that. I found nothing original (except for the locale) or different about this movie. Sure I felt for teh characters but I am a sap and I feel for all the poor shmoes who end up getting totured by mountain men, except Paris Hilton, she got what she deserved :P

[daddiefatsacks]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
SPOILERS!!!!


I have extremely mixed feelings about this one. I have not been a fan of many horror films released this year, and a big part of that has been the directing. I hate the flashy visuals and quick cutting that so many young horror directors use these days. I think McLean's direction here is outstanding. He does an excellent job of displaying the isolation and vastness of the Australian countryside. You really feel like you are in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's eerie and appropriate for this film. I also loved his wide angle shots. IMO, McLean's directing is vastly superior to that of just about every other horror director this year. This guy knows his shit. I liked the acting by all four of the leads. It's well-made and there's a lot to admire. That said, I can't say I got much out of it. It has a familiar feel to it, and even though a few scenes are suspenseful and intense, I never found it all that scary. Plus, the characters repeatedly do dumb horror movie shit, which was highly aggravating. If nothing else, I am excited to see what McLean does next. I can't say that about too many young directors in the genre right now. They're a dime a dozen.

5/10

this is EXACTLY what i thought....took the words out of my mouth

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I am excited to see what McLean does next.

a movie about a man eating crocodile.

[Terror Australis]

Here is an interesting thread I found on iMDB from someone, who likes the film, talks about why people are complaining about the film and also features an interview with the director. Hopefully it will help out in some way. Personally I agree with everything he said.


Read it here:

*WARNING IT DOES CONTAIN SPOILER*

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416315/board/nest/32370155

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Digifruitella
a movie about a man eating crocodile.

Yeah isn't it called Rogue or something like that? I think it already started filming.

[Bourne101]

When I first saw the trailer I thought it would be great. Then I heard it was done with the same type of camera as Open Water, so my expectations went down. I went to see it on the weekend and I loved it. It was sick, twisted and suspenseful. It really makes you wonder about the creeps in the world that would actually do shit like that.

There are very few kills but they are torturous and nasty. There are also many disturbing and violent images of torture. The only thing I thought was stupid that was actually true is that the survivor moved back to Southern Australlia (where the killings took place), after he was proven not guilty.

Overall a great movie and beautifully shot. The camera didn't bother me at all, except for a little bit of the beginning.

8/10

[Mentiroso]

God I regret seeing this one. I feel ripped off because I took a half day off to catch a matinee of this. I would rather have been at work. I am not kidding. So boring and when it had the chance to get great, it fizzled some more. The only positive things in this moie were the hot chick who looks like Christina Applegate(just because I thought she was hot and the brittish accent gave me wood) and the killer. He was actually quite cool but the movie sucked.

Although I will never think of "That's not a knife, this is a knife" quite the same way again.


1/10

For anyone wanting to see this expecting horror, it is not at all what you think. Commercials very misleading. There were maybe two scenes that did give me a sense of dread but they just never pulled through.

Do not see this one!!!!! Wait for rental/download!!

[Jerk Shapiro]

Originally posted by AWP82
THIRTEEN DOLLARS?!?! Goddamn, I can see why you were so pissed. What the hell kind of cineplex do you go to? I was lucky enough to spend 9 dollars, and that's bad enough.

That was for two... $6.50 a piece...still a waste of my money.

And to answer the question of how anyone can think the build-up was boring after seeing the film...Maybe the fact that I was so Goddamn bored by the time the flick got to the so-called "scary parts" that I really didn't give a shit what happened to the characters. I distinctly remember hoping that all three of them would die quick deaths so that the film would just fucking stop.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Shameful thoughts and outright rubbish still sadly dominate this Thread.
Oh well at least the Brits, and those of us who are astute, liked it and it's been a big success everywhere else so I guess that's all that matters.

I feel for your loss.:p

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Shameful thoughts and outright rubbish still sadly dominate this Thread.
Oh well at least the Brits, and those of us who are astute, liked it and it's been a big success everywhere else so I guess that's all that matters.

I feel for your loss.:p

It's called a differing opinion. Has nothing to do with intelligence. Jesus Christ.

Good luck to you in trying to make this movie seem better than it was. I ain't buying it.

[AWP82]

Here we go again... :rolleyes:

[Terror Australis]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Shameful thoughts and outright rubbish still sadly dominate this Thread.
Oh well at least the Brits, and those of us who are astute, liked it and it's been a big success everywhere else so I guess that's all that matters.

Don't forget the Aussies too!

I don't understand the hate for this film, I mean it's WAY better than most for the other shit horror that has been released this year. Maybe the film just wasn't met for Americans just for Aussies and Brits, I don't know. But it pisses me off 'cause I think it best horror films of the year (after The Descent of course). To each his own.

[Lazy Boy]

It has nothing on High Tension, or even The Devil's Rejects.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I thoroughly enjoyed Wolf Creek, I'm actually surprised that majority of the people in this topic didn't like it. Sure there was a slow buildup, but c'mon, if i know the ending is going to deliver, i can sit through the exposition, just take king kong for example. I found the three leads entertaining to watch, as they all felt like real people. Sure some of the scenes dragged, but the light tone of the first hour made the first scene of the climax so effective. When the Liz character wakes up in that shed, it was a whole new ball game. I was on the edge of my seat until the end, a good half hour straight, which is more than I can say for most of the horror movies that have come out this year, such as the moronic High Tension (4/10), Devil's Rejects (5/10), Boogeyman (2/10), Cursed (3/10), Red Eye (6/10), Venom (3/10), and Cry_Wolf (4/10).

Also, contrary to what some of you have said, I thought that the chracters were geniuses (as compared to most characters in horror movies). Sure they made a couple of dumb decisions, but for the most part I thought they all had the chance to live. And in this era of slashers in which you can pick out who is going to live or die based on the cast listing, Wolf Creek did a great job of keeping me in suspense.

7.5/10

[AngelDust06]

I dont usually write very short reviews but this one is going to be very very short. This movie had not a spec of joy in it for me. I thought the plot line was horribly done and of course we have all see in done before. The ending was the only thing that I enjoyed watching for a sheer ounce of 3 minutes. I thought the rest of the movie was dull and porly developed. One of the years worst in my eyes.

1.5/10

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Shameful thoughts and outright rubbish still sadly dominate this Thread.
Oh well at least the Brits, and those of us who are astute, liked it and it's been a big success everywhere else so I guess that's all that matters.

I feel for your loss.:p

What happened to opinions? And since when did success have anything to do with quality? Get over yourself. Seriously. You can't say that everyone who didn't like it is wrong or not as smart as you. That is a load of shit.

Like I said, it is exceptionally well-made, and I think McLean is a director to watch. He has serious talent. But the second half has a been there, done that feel to it. Sure it's brutal and intense, but it's been done before. I wasn't that impressed by it. Just my opinion.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
It has nothing on High Tension, or even The Devil's Rejects.

Really? It must be REALLY bad then.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
What happened to opinions? And since when did success have anything to do with quality?

Nothing happned to opinions...I still have mine. :p

And where did I say success meant quality? I was simply stating that at least it did well everywhere else...because it deserves to do so.
Gosh! 'get over yourself'.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Wolf Creek- 8/10

{SPOILERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!}

Alright schomes, after seeing mixed reviews for this bad boy, i decided to go in the afternoon and see this movie. Well, after it was all said and done, i seriously walked out kinda depressed....not many horror movies do that to me!

The first half really didnt feel that boring to me, i enjoyed how the characters interacted with one another and didnt feel bored through out the whole thing. Also, i thnk that the character development was great! Heres the viewer dropped into the lives of three friends. We dont know much about them, but we know enough to feel comfortable and care for them. In my opinion, i really enjoyed the scene where guy and girl hooking up, it seemed real to me. I also loved the scenery of the outback, it felt it could stretch on for miles! Then thy arrive at the meteor site....and this is where it goes to shit!

[Mr.HyDe807]

Wolf Creek- 8/10

{SPOILERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!}

Alright schomes, after seeing mixed reviews for this bad boy, i decided to go in the afternoon and see this movie. Well, after it was all said and done, i seriously walked out kinda depressed....not many horror movies do that to me!

The first half really didnt feel that boring to me, i enjoyed how the characters interacted with one another and didnt feel bored through out the whole thing. Also, i thnk that the character development was great! Heres the viewer dropped into the lives of three friends. We dont know much about them, but we know enough to feel comfortable and care for them. In my opinion, i really enjoyed the scene where guy and girl hooking up, it seemed real to me. I also loved the scenery of the outback, it felt it could stretch on for miles! Then thy arrive at the meteor site....and this is where it goes to shit!

the seond half is full of suspense and oncoming dread, you know something bad is gonna happen; but you just dont know when it will happen. Then, the bomb drops, and were in full brace suspense. There wasnt many pop-out scenes, but why would you need it when your already terrified on what you see whats ing on, but dotn know whats happening to the others? While i knew what was happening to the 2 girls, i was honestly thinking to myslef "wheres the guy? Is he dead?"

[Mr.HyDe807]

Wolf Creek- 8.5/10

{SPOILERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!}

Alright schomes, after seeing mixed reviews for this bad boy, i decided to go in the afternoon and see this movie. Well, after it was all said and done, i seriously walked out kinda depressed....not many horror movies do that to me!

The first half really didnt feel that boring to me, i enjoyed how the characters interacted with one another and didnt feel bored through out the whole thing. Also, i thnk that the character development was great! Heres the viewer dropped into the lives of three friends. We dont know much about them, but we know enough to feel comfortable and care for them. In my opinion, i really enjoyed the scene where guy and girl hooking up, it seemed real to me. I also loved the scenery of the outback, it felt it could stretch on for miles! Then thy arrive at the meteor site....and this is where it goes to shit!

the seond half is full of suspense and oncoming dread, you know something bad is gonna happen; but you just dont know when it will happen. Then, the bomb drops, and were in full brace suspense. There wasnt many pop-out scenes, but why would you need it when your already terrified on what you see whats ing on, but dotn know whats happening to the others? While i knew what was happening to the 2 girls, i was honestly thinking to myslef "wheres the guy? Is he dead?"

Another thing that got to me were the unexpected kills. From frame one, i picked out who would die first and who would be the sole survivor. Well, lets just say i was bitch slapped out of the standard cliche. When the first victim gets it, i was shocked at who it was. I honestly thought tht person would be the sole survivor, but i was dead wrong!

All the actors did a fantastic job across the board.The three main chracters were excellent, i actually felt that those were people i would be friends with.However, the outback guy alone was the treat for me. His demeanor is so nexpeted and random you cant help but be weirded out by the man. When you see him look at the main guy after he jokes around with him, you wonder if hes just gonna pull out the knife and kill him right there.

Then the climax, it was a real downer, just seeing the survivor sprawling throught the desert and crying was a real downer. Another depressing thing is how the killer is always in control, you think that the characters one up the guy, only to see the tables turn and he always comes out on top. The final shot of him walking into the sunset and disappearing is just haunting.

To be honest, the thing that bugged me was that i wanted it to continue. I felt the movie itself went by real fast and i couldnt believe it was over that fast. Another thing was the dropping off the other character until the final act, that bugged me a little and wouldve appreciate see him or her more so i knew what was going down.

Overall, Wolf Creek was an effective and realistic horror movie. It invokes the dread of movies like Texas Chainsaw Masscre and other backwoods horror movies and after its all said and done, makes you leave the theater very depressed, and if a horror movie can do tghat to me, i think that that movie is a exceptionally good!

{Sorry if this review is a little uneven}

[SkyNet]

WORST MOVIE EVER

ok, i get the story, i get that is based on shit that actually happened... but does that mean that it has to put on film? I mean, we have seen movies where people get kidnapped and tortured before, so just because this based on fact, means that is HAD to be translated to film?? There was 100% no point to this flick at all. Just to try and shock the audience and use the fact that some similar shit happened. The shit was laughable. I cant believe that people in australia h5tought this was good, and even more shocking, that people in America thought it was good enough to bring to the states??!! Just a real piece of shit movie

[Mr.HyDe807]

sry for the accidental double post

[someguy]

Wolf Creek was a good movie, at least I thought so. After reading all of these negative reviews I was surprised at how good it was. I think that there are a lot of unnecessary and bad criticisms of the movie though. For one, the character development. The movie just simply puts people into their lives at the moment they are going on their trip. I thought that the character development wasn't necessary really. So what if you didn't know the origin of their friendship. If they said how they knew each other, would that 4/10 become a 7 or 8/10? The characters are just shown who they are and how they act. I found the three of them to be likeable, and knowing about their past life doesn't matter if you don't like the character. Plus people should stop going on about how there is no point to the movie. The point of the movie was to show the events of three people going on a trip and getting terrorized by a killer. What, you wanted a bigger meaning? How could you not understand the point of the movie by looking at the posters or previews.

Mclean made a movie with balls by actually spending time to know the characters better and not following typical horror movie rules. I liked the characters, and some of the scenes felt real. That combined with the camera made it like a documentary at points. I was glued once the actual 'horror' started, and while I got annoyed at some parts (why the fuck are you looking at the cameras and not getting out of there) it was still pretty brutal and intense. The only problem I had was that it took too long to get going (maybe 5-10 minutes of stuff shaved off) and the previously mentioned dumb moves. I would give the movie a 7.5/10.

[someguy]

Originally posted by Mr.HyDe807
sry for the accidental double post

I HATE WHEN PEOPLE DO THIS, JUST EDIT YOUR DAMN POSTS AND DON'T MAKE A NEW ONE APOLOGIZING FOR IT BLARGHGSEAHEAGSE

[Warnock]

Wow this thread is filled with alot of mixed emotions of the Flick.. Wolf Creek. My review is simple.. the movie was way to long. I know it was only about an hour and a half but it needed alot of work.. like cutting out the long begining. there were no character development so why have it.
As for the end it had potential but again,, just potential. I wish that I had fallen asleep or the crazy aussie would have shot me too so I would not have had to watch this garbage.
I know i don't post alot but i do have to comment on a worng doing.. I see that a Legion X was banned well thats ok, but if you wanted to prove a point both guys should have been banned or none at all. I don't want to be a naysayer but.. nay to the moderator. if this gets me banned thats ok, but i do believe in fairness and it did not happen here. It's a shame i tell ya .. a shame
Good Day readers!! .................I said Good Day!!

[42ndStreetFreak]

Another thing that got to me were the unexpected kills. From frame one, i picked out who would die first and who would be the sole survivor. Well, lets just say i was bitch slapped out of the standard cliche. When the first victim gets it, i was shocked at who it was. I honestly thought tht person would be the sole survivor, but i was dead wrong!

Excellent post. Yes, this movie truly made yuou feel unsure and not remotely safe in what may happen.



WORST MOVIE EVER

Oh dear. If you don't like it, hate it even, then so be it (no matter how deluded that may be) that is your opinion, but please...that statement is just rubbish.
You seriously need to see more (a hell of a lot more) movies if you truly believe that statement. :rolleyes:

[Warnock]

hey i am a press junkie so please please please some body quote me on my awesomeness!! or not :)

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by SkyNet
WORST MOVIE EVER



How dare you not like this movie? Who do you think you are? Don't you know that this is a great movie and everyone who is smart knows that? Only stupid people don't love and worship this movie. You obviously didn't get it. I am so sick of people not loving this movie.

[Warnock]

How dare i not like this movie?? who am I?? I am Warnock and i make movies and i run a movie theater, not to mention i am an American. This gives me the right to like and dislike anything i want!!
passion there is no passion in this flick you want passion watch a sappy movie like the notebook ( i did weep to this one)
so if you don't have a better movie to fight for just go away!
Good day sir!!

[Warnock]

oh yea MadsenOMC you are a poopy head!! for calling people stupid for not enjoying this crappy flick!! muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

[MadsenOMC]

I forgot to mention that the sarcasm button was on in my previous post. I don't want anyone thinking that it was serious.

[someguy]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
How dare you not like this movie? Who do you think you are? Don't you know that this is a great movie and everyone who is smart knows that? Only stupid people don't love and worship this movie. You obviously didn't get it. I am so sick of people not loving this movie.

:rolleyes: :D

Maybe if people were complaining that there weren't any wolves in Wolf Creek, I could understand calling their opinion dumb but acting like only smart people would like it is just rude and overly pretentious/condescending.

[Warnock]

i love the sacrasm button it 's keen

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by someguy
:rolleyes: if you're being general

:D if you're making fun of who I think you are

Maybe if people were complaining that there weren't any wolves in Wolf Creek, I could understand calling their opinion dumb but acting like only smart people would like it is just rude and overly pretentious/condescending.

*snooze* Get a room.

Screw opinions in this case...to say that this film is the 'worst movie EVER', is just bullshit. Plain and simple.
Even if you don't like the film such a statement is plainly wrong. Unless you've only seen 5 films or something.

MadsenOMC: Give it up...as sarcasm is generally like a scalpel in the hand of an ape as far as most Americans go anyway.
Or am I being sarcastic now? Hmm.....You'll never know.

And until I hear something better (or just plain correct) from the negative crowd as far as their reasoning goes I'll stick to the conclusion i have come to.

[MadsenOMC]

Not that I agree with him much these days, but since Ebert gave it 0 stars, I'm sure he would consider it one of the worst movies he's ever seen. Either way, it's just an opinion, and plenty of people really hate this movie, so maybe in their opinion it is one of the worst (or the worst) movies they've ever seen. I am not one of them. I did not hate it. I just can't stand your holier-than-thou attitude about the movie. You can't say that someone's opinion is wrong, yet you continue to act like those who like the movie are right and those who don't are wrong. Am I supposed to be insulted by you? You think I really fucking care what you think of me? You'll never know.

[AngelDust06]

lol at the rate of people getting fired up over a little movie I motion to have this thread closed :D I mean we already had someone banned for their opinions on it that got outa hand so lets end this now before someone else gets banned.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by AngelDust06
[B so lets end this now before someone else gets banned. [/B]

That's a good idea. Nothing will be accomplished by bickering back and forth.

[someguy]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
*snooze* Get a room.

MAYBE HE WILL PLEASE ME UNLIKE YOU :( :(

Screw opinions in this case...to say that this film is the 'worst movie EVER', is just bullshit. Plain and simple.
Even if you don't like the film such a statement is plainly wrong. Unless you've only seen 5 films or something.

But what he says isn't wrong, and it isn't right either. That's what an opinion is. You are treating it as if it is fact, and it isn't. One person found it the worst movie ever. So? There are about 6 or 7 billion people in the world, at least ONE is bound to consider it the worst movie ever. Hell, I bet there's at least one person who thinks House of the Dead is the best movie ever.

And until I hear something better (or just plain correct) from the negative crowd as far as their reasoning goes I'll stick to the conclusion i have come to.

Oh come on now. They all have valid reasons for not liking the movie. The characters were not really developed at all, just shown. It took too long to get to the point. It was boring for the most part. It was not intense. All are valid criticisms, and they are all just as valid as the reasons why people love the movie.

You just appear to have a problem with people having extremely differing opinions. It looks like that you can not comprehend someone absolutely loathing the movie, and you should start to comprehend it because there are always differing opinions on every movie.

[someguy]

grr, all that is posted while i posted the above reply. oh well

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by someguy
grr, all that is posted while i posted the above reply. oh well

This is the best post you've done. :eek:

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
This is the best post you've done. :eek:


And this is the worst post you have ever done :eek:

[CreeperBEATNGU]

Great movie. I thought the slowness of the first 45 mins. or so was a great set up to the upcoming terror. The comical demeanor of the villain also worked to the films advantage, lowering the audience's guard at first, and then making it all the sicker seeing how much he enjoys what he's doing when things heat up.
The atmosphere and cinematography set up the feeling of isolation perfectly and gave the film a foreboding feel throughout.
I love films with a natural feel that all of a sudden grab on and don't let go, this is a prime example. The aesthetic of uncompromising, gritty as hell horror films (which is the best kind) is going strong.

As for the "it's boring as hell and nothing happens for 45 minutes" complaint, And that was the point, if you just did a documentary on the lives of a group of college students, you're not going to get cinematic characterization, you're getting to get what you saw in the first half of the film. Partying, relationships, bull**** small talk...
The first half isn't supposed to build like the typical movie, it's seeing into the lives of regular people before the horror hits. That's precisely what it would be like if you were attacked by a psychopath. A typical day, not much excitement going on...then all of a sudden your thrust into the horror without warning, it isn't built up for you beforehand as it usually is in movies.

Robert Rodriguez put it best, "this is as real as horror gets."

[Backstabba]

Originally posted by someguy
Hell, I bet there's at least one person who thinks House of the Dead is the best movie ever.

http://www.ymdb.com/markfergreeves/l17951_ukuk.html

...It's only #6 on his list but....*shrugs*

I thought I was the only person who liked this movie...thankfully...I am not.

[ilovemovies]

Someon said that this movie has nothing on High Tension and The Devil's Rejects. I couldn't disagree more. This movie was WAY better than both of those movies combined. This movie actually actually has characters worth rooting and doesn't make the mistake of trying to make it's killer sympathetic unlike The Devil's Rejects nor does it contain the asinine twist that destroyed High Tension. It's just a simple, straight forward horror flick. And one that focuses less on gore and is more visceral and intense, just like I like my horror flicks. I didn't find the build up slow at all. I enjoyed it all. Though I must confess, with two girls and a guy alone in a road trip, I kept hoping for a threesome! :D

Anyway, I found it to be fairly gripping and suspenseful all the way through. Though I agree the characters do some stupid things. But it goes with the genre. It is funny though, I kept thinking to myself how I wouldn't trust that guy and I definately wouldn't drink his water. And sure enough after they drink it, they pass out. And about that guy. I liked his performance because he doesn't go TOO over the top. He does a little, but not to the point of making it camp. And he's a pretty scary guy!

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
Great movie. I thought the slowness of the first 45 mins. or so was a great set up to the upcoming terror. The comical demeanor of the villain also worked to the films advantage, lowering the audience's guard at first, and then making it all the sicker seeing how much he enjoys what he's doing when things heat up.
The atmosphere and cinematography set up the feeling of isolation perfectly and gave the film a foreboding feel throughout.
I love films with a natural feel that all of a sudden grab on and don't let go, this is a prime example. The aesthetic of uncompromising, gritty as hell horror films (which is the best kind) is going strong.

As for the "it's boring as hell and nothing happens for 45 minutes" complaint, And that was the point, if you just did a documentary on the lives of a group of college students, you're not going to get cinematic characterization, you're getting to get what you saw in the first half of the film. Partying, relationships, bull**** small talk...
The first half isn't supposed to build like the typical movie, it's seeing into the lives of regular people before the horror hits. That's precisely what it would be like if you were attacked by a psychopath. A typical day, not much excitement going on...then all of a sudden your thrust into the horror without warning, it isn't built up for you beforehand as it usually is in movies.

Robert Rodriguez put it best, "this is as real as horror gets."

Excellent write-up! :cool: :cool:

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by SkyNet
WORST MOVIE EVER



Excellent review. :) :)

[42ndStreetFreak]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Excellent review. :) :)

Always playing catch-up, always one step behind, floundering in the shadows.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[MadsenOMC]

And Happy New Year to you as well.

[someguy]

I was wondering, was the stopping of the watches ever explained?

[Lazy Boy]

I thought it had something to do with the weird nature of the crash site, but maybe the watches simply stopped.

[chinton]

First quick review. LOVED THE MOVIE. One of the most bleak and disturbing horror films Ive seen in years. I actually didnt mind the buildup. Sure it went for a bit too long but aside from that it was interesting how they did it. There wasnt any real character devlopement but theyre meandering and almost trivial dialogue helped set the idea that these friends are just on a road trip. While not particuraly deep it made you like these three friends therefor when the horror hit it was merciless bleak and uncompromising. The last thirty minutes made me feel so dirty. I just couldnt get the movie out of my head once I left the theater. Sure they made some dumb moves during the film but Im more forgiving during a horror film and overall I loved this film.

8/10

Points That I Need To Bring Up.

3. Why hasnt anybody talked about the biggest achievement of this film. It costs 1 million dollars but it look absolutely gorgeous. The director knows how to capture the tension as well as some gorgeous shots with money he has.

2. I forgot his name but the man who played the serial killer was seriously freaky. I mean wow big thumbs up on his performance.

And the most important point of all!!

1. Why cant we have more films like this in which we actually like the main characters. I know it sounds obvious but it was refreshing to see horror film leads who seemed like your friends next door and cool people all around. The point what happened during the last thrity minutes wasnt powerful cause it was disturbing. It was powerful becuase sick and horrible things were happening to people I like.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Nice to see the tide changing in this thread.
Chinton: Perfectly put! I agree 101% with all that.
This is the repsonse i was hoping for when it hit the U.S.

[Tommy Doyle]

I saw this film tonight, and I gotta say, I didn't think it was NEARLY as bad as many folks did. Although I may be in the minority on this one... over half the theatre walked out during the film. The five rows in front of me and my friend were almost completely full, and by the time the movie was done, there were four people sitting in rows in front of us. I didn't mind so much, I was able to prop my legs up nicely on the chair in front of me once those guys took off.

I thought it was a good film. Not great, not bad, but good. Although it was completely and utterly frustrating. Not because of the slow build-up that people here have mentioned... I actually found that quite refreshing. I had time to get to know and really like and appreciate these characters and their personalities... but because of the absolutely idiotic way they acted when they were faced with this horrific situation. BUT, that way of characterization does go along with the territory of horror films, fictional OR based on true events. I don't think I've ever seen a horror film where at one point I wasn't ready to smack a main character around a little bit for some of the stupid things they did.

That being said, the portrayls of all the characters in this film, were completely believable. I don't know how I would act in that kind of a situation, I hope it wouldn't be the way two of the lead characters did, but you just never know unless you've been faced with a situation like that, and how many of us can say we have been in a situation like that? Not very many I'm guessing.

The film was gorgeous. I've seen films made for thirty times the amount this film was made for, and try to look like this film, and fail miserably. This film pulled it off perfectly. From the serenity in some scenes, to the absolute horror in others. At one point you feel like friggin'... frolicking through a field, at others, you feel the need for a shower in paint thinner to remove the grit and grime.

The portrayls from the four lead actors were pretty damn good. The villain didn't go over the top... he didn't take it into camp territory... he played it off so realistically sadistic, it scared the hell out of you thinking that people like that do actually exist in this world of ours. The three friends were completely consistent from beginning to end. To tap into such raw emotion for such long periods of time is completely exhausting, and at least the two female leads kept it going for as long as was needed.

I don't feel this film is nearly the best horror film I've seen, but I do think it was a decent one with some pretty outstanding performances and some great cinematography and editing.

I'd give it a solid 7/10, which could have been improved upon had a couple of the lead characters not been so frustratingly absent minded in a few scenes.

[Lemmywinks]

SPOILERS**********************************


I saw this last night, and I was really disappointed. I agree with most of you about too much buildup. It was what, 40-45 minutes before the girl wakes up in the shed. Only 3 people die in the movie, and the only cool one was the old guy with the thermos. The chick who got her spine cut was ok, but It just wasnt that scary. The girl getting shot outside the car was pretty lame. It kind of ended really abruptly as well. All of a sudden, the guy breaks free, gets picked up, put on a plane, goes to court, is cleared of all suspicion against him, and this all happens within 2 minutes. Also, there was an article in the newspaper about the actual killer being caught a while back, so the end isnt true. He isnt still out there. He was caught. Overall, not much of a payoff in the movie. Too much buildup to a series of events thats been done in other, better horror movies.

Also, what was the deal with the watches stopping and the cars being broken down. If it was caused by a certain emp coming from the crater, why was the car working when they pulled up, and not working when they came back? Or did the Killer pull up and do something to the peoples cars when they were in the crater?

[42ndStreetFreak]

Dear me.

Anyway...It was NOT a factual re-telling of ANY case. It was BASED on *2* true cases and that is all...based.

Hey guess what? Ed Gein was not a man mountain with a chainsaw either. It's pure real life INFLUENCE on a fictional film. :rolleyes:

[chinton]

Spoilers!!!





You didnt find head ona stick scary? I thought it was really quite disturbing and disgusting. What a horrible way to not die.


Also I completely disagree with you about he girl being shot. What made it powerful was becuase it was abrupt. She could run all she wanted but he wasnt going to let her get away. Her being shot in a very matter of fact manner was just so bleak and powerful.

[42ndStreetFreak]

You didnt find head ona stick scary? I thought it was really quite disturbing and disgusting. What a horrible way to not die.


*SPOILERS*



Exactly. And if you ask me it's bullshit bravado saying otherwise.
And the big thing was is that after the description he gave of what he was going to do, and given who (so far in the film) it was going to be done to...You never really thought it would happen I think.

Normally in this situation, with a character like this with a promised fate as bad as this, something (or themselves) gets them out of it (even if they die later, it's not as 'bad' as the promised death)...But "Wolf Creek" did not cop-out or tease. It had it's totally wild card character do what he said. To a character who looked like being the 'hero'.

Full on, no nonsense, serious, straight ahead horror movie making. Simple as that.

[chinton]

Frankly Im surprised at the amazingly bad reception (for the most part) this film is getting. After being several dissapointed times by supposedly great horror films this year it was refreshing to see a horror film that actually with me long after the film was over. This certinaly didnt happen with Devils Rejects which I will never like now Saw 2 one of the most overated films of last year.

And as far as the character making stupid decisions. Yes they did do some dome dumb thing which is why I lowered me grades but I tend to be more forgiving in a horror film. Character will always make dumb decisions in a horror film or else there wouldnt be a horror film it depends on how dumb it is.

[Duke Nukem]

Originally posted by chinton
And as far as the character making stupid decisions. Yes they did do some dome dumb thing which is why I lowered me grades but I tend to be more forgiving in a horror film. Character will always make dumb decisions in a horror film or else there wouldnt be a horror film it depends on how dumb it is.

Feelings > logic

In real life, when in tense situations, you might not always think straight. It can happen.

[chinton]

very true

[Tommy Doyle]

Originally posted by Lemmywinks
SPOILERS**********************************


Also, what was the deal with the watches stopping and the cars being broken down. If it was caused by a certain emp coming from the crater, why was the car working when they pulled up, and not working when they came back? Or did the Killer pull up and do something to the peoples cars when they were in the crater?



*SPOILERS*



The watches I don't know... artistic liberty... something to make you think back to later on... who knows. It wasn't explained as far as I saw.

The cars on the other hand was simple. The bad guy messed them up so they wouldn't start. It's how he got his victims. He screwed with their cars, then came and offered them a ride and BOOM! Scary shit from there on out.

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak


Oh dear. If you don't like it, hate it even, then so be it (no matter how deluded that may be) that is your opinion, but please...that statement is just rubbish.
You seriously need to see more (a hell of a lot more) movies if you truly believe that statement. :rolleyes: [/B]

i could see if all i posted was WORST MOVIE EVER... but i also posted a paragraph about why i thought the movie was horrible. I am sorry i dont agree with your idea's about this movie... if i thought it was the worst movie ever made, then that is what i will tell people, and it isnt fucking RUBBISH of me to say that. I see enough movies, and to me... this movie was the worst movie i had ever seen... and to everyone in the theater with me also thought that, as i believe this was the movie where i have seen the most walk outs ever... and how everyone when the movie was over agree'd the movie was fucking, in your words RUBBISH! So from now on... ill give an OPINION, and you learn to RESPECT that opinion of mine! and by the way... Wolf Creek was the WORST FUCKING MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN!

[42ndStreetFreak]

and you learn to RESPECT that opinion of mine!
Nah.

Like I said...you REALLY need to see more movies.
Get back to me then.

[someguy]

42nd, the more you post things like the that the title 'Former Schmoe' below your name looks better.

Come on now, stop belitting others for not liking the movie and learn that maybe people just don't think the movie is that good.

[MadsenOMC]

SPOILERS!!

The heated discussion and the passionate defense from its fans have me reflecting on this movie more than I ever expected to. I'll be repeating myself a little, but please bear with me.

I really like the first 45 minutes of the movie. I have no problem with the slow pacing. I always bitch about one-dimensional characters in horror flicks, so it's refreshing to watch a movie that actually attempts to sketch some sympathetic, realistic characters. I feel like Wolf Creek pulls that off fairly well. I like the leading trio and the performances are very good.

In addition to that, McLean does an outstanding job behind the camera. I love the wide shots and the movie looks beautiful. As someone else pointed out, they did an amazing job with a $1 million budget. McLean also does an effective job of building dread and displaying the vast, wide open landscape. Great use of location.

Where the movie doesn't work for me is the last 45 minutes. I was expecting more. Maybe that's due to all the hype, or maybe it's due to having seen so many horror movies. Whatever the reason, I was disappointed.

I truly didn't find it scary. Intense, yes, at times. But not scary. Jarret gives a good performance as the killer, but it's not exactly a unique character. Wise-cracking lunatics are a dime a dozen in horror movies. He really isn't all that different or special compared to the rest.

I was also bothered by the idiotic decisions repeatedly made by the female characters. The first half of the movie is of such high quality, I was disappointed that the second half resorted to genre cliches.

The second half covers some familiar territory and feels pretty stale, like yet another typical slasher. It has its moments, but not enough of them.

That being said, whether or not someone hates the beginning, the end or the entire movie, their opinion is valid and needs to be respected.

[chinton]

You know you are sort of right. The last 45 minutes but that isnt what makes it revolutionary. Unlike all the recent horror films that are supposed to be great like Saw 2 and Devils Rejects I actually cared about the characters therefore the last 45 minutes were incredibly powerful. It was scary in the idea that it was disturbing that some truly horrible things were happening to people who seemed like your freinds next door. Combined with the relentlessly bleak atmosphere, you could feel the girls were not getting away, that what made the movie scary. Simply beacuse it was disturbing

[CreeperBEATNGU]

Great movie. I thought the slowness of the first 45 mins. or so was a great set up to the upcoming terror. The comical demeanor of the villain also worked to the films advantage, lowering the audience's guard at first, and then making it all the sicker seeing how much he enjoys what he's doing when things heat up.
The atmosphere and cinematography set up the feeling of isolation perfectly and gave the film a foreboding feel throughout.
I love films with a natural feel that all of a sudden grab on and don't let go, this is a prime example. The aesthetic of uncompromising, gritty as hell horror films (which is the best kind) is going strong.

As for the "it's boring as hell and nothing happens for 45 minutes" complaint, And that was the point, if you just did a documentary on the lives of a group of college students, you're not going to get cinematic characterization, you're getting to get what you saw in the first half of the film. Partying, relationships, bull**** small talk...
The first half isn't supposed to build like the typical movie, it's seeing into the lives of regular people before the horror hits. That's precisely what it would be like if you were attacked by a psychopath. A typical day, not much excitement going on...then all of a sudden your thrust into the horror without warning, it isn't built up for you beforehand as it usually is in movies.

Robert Rodriguez put it best, "this is as real as horror gets."