Based on Actual Events My Ass!!!

[veddhead83]

What is the deal with all of these movies claiming to be based on actual events: Open Water, Wolf Creek, Hostel, Texas Chainsaw, etc? When will Hollywood stop using this ploy? On all of these films during the credits it says: The following characters and incidents are fiction. Any similarities are pure coincidental. Why do these claim TRUTH?!?!? Sweet, I thought of the idea while I was crapping that - What would it be like to be held captive by a lunatic while hiking? Brilliant!!!

[blk_flower]

some films are just "inspired" by real events.

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by blk_flower
some films are just "inspired" by real events.
So, a magazine questionare can "Inspire" a movie - the producers don't need to tell me that.

[blk_flower]

hmm you make a point, I sometimes think it spices a film up more but your right it does become annoying.

[Madhatter]

FARGO SPOLIER





The Coen brothers did it in Fargo and a Japanese women died trying to find the money that the Buscemi character burried along the road.

[veddhead83]

That is hilarious!

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The one I hate the most is Open Water& The Perfect Storm - how do the writers/producers/directors know what happened if everyone died??? Plus, for Open Water, I heard the director came up with the idea from a mag article which only asked the quest - "What would it be like to be stranded in the middle of the ocean? Pisses me off!!!

[Backstabba]

Originally posted by veddhead83

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The one I hate the most is Open Water& The Perfect Storm - how do the writers/producers/directors know what happened if everyone died??? Plus, for Open Water, I heard the director came up with the idea from a mag article which only asked the quest - "What would it be like to be stranded in the middle of the ocean? Pisses me off!!!

From what I heard they are based on ACTUAL events....Like it REALLY happened AKA not that what happened in the water is fact, but the fact 2 people were stranded in the water and then they're equiptment was found is.. true....Atleast thats what IIII heard.

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by Backstabba
From what I heard they are based on ACTUAL events....Like it REALLY happened AKA not that what happened in the water is fact, but the fact 2 people were stranded in the water and then they're equiptment was found is.. true....Atleast thats what IIII heard.

That's right, it had ben a while since I read about it, but still, there were no sharks!!!

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This is what I read from RottenTomatoes.com

The idea for OPEN WATER came from a particular news event that circulated in dive magazines and newsletters a few years ago. The event centered around divers who had been stranded in the open ocean. Kentis, a scuba diver, began to research whether this was an isolated incident or a common occurrence. Through his research he learned that though it is very rare, other similar incidents had in fact occurred. He also did research on men left adrift at sea during wartime, through these accounts he learned more about the psychological and physiological changes the human mind and body undergoes under the stress of abandonment and exposure to the open sky and ocean.


NO SHARKS! Just because they got stranded, doesn't mean there were sharks. It is just a ploy to get butt's in the seats - grrrr!!!

[veddhead83]

HOSTEL

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IMDB.com - The trailers bill the movie as "inspired by true events." Aintitcoolnews.com webmaster Harry Knowles showed director Eli Roth a website he found that advertised itself as a "murder vacation", offering users the chance to torture and kill someone for the price of $10,000. Roth used the site as inspiration for his script, and told the idea to Quentin Tarantino, who said it was one of the "sickest ideas he'd ever heard". Roth said later on an Icelandic talk show that he had no idea if the website was real or not, but the fact that someone had conceived of such a place and bothered to create a site for it disturbed him so much he had to make the film.

What a crock of shit!!!

[AngelDust06]

I hate that also. Especially with wolf creek, Texas chainsaw and hell even Blair Witch Project, witch had nothing to do with real events. Fucking Hollywood. Thats how they get tickets sold for the movie. Its retarded but hey its Hollywood.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Originally posted by AngelDust06
I hate that also. Especially with wolf creek, Texas chainsaw and hell even Blair Witch Project, witch had nothing to do with real events. Fucking Hollywood. Thats how they get tickets sold for the movie. Its retarded but hey its Hollywood.

heres an article about the events tat inspired wolf creek, so it is in a way inspired by actual events

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/milat/discovery_1.html

Not trying to be a dick, im just sharing what i know

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by Mr.HyDe807
heres an article about the events tat inspired wolf creek, so it is in a way inspired by actual events

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/milat/discovery_1.html

Not trying to be a dick, im just sharing what i know

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Ok, if this happened, the movie doesn't make any sense. The two girls were /tortured/killed pretty much the entire climax of the movie. The film doesn't show the male at all during any of this. But he survives and didn't witness any of the brutal acts except what he endured. How does he know what happened to the girls(he was locked away somewhere) - in order to describe it to police?

This means he is going to look like the guilty one. The "killer" is just all in his head according to experts because they cant prove any of this.

Makes no sense to me.

[veddhead83]

*SPOILER*

Blair Witch was all a hoax to get kids to go to the movie - from what I remember, they came out and told everyone this wasnt true. They made the movie like a documentary to make it seem real. But people just ran off with it claiming to be based on a true story.

IMDB.com:

When promoting the film, the producers claimed it was real footage. Some people still believe it.

The three leads believed the Blair Witch was a real legend during filming, though of course they knew the film was going to be fake. Only after the film's release did they discover that the entire mythology was made up by the film's creators.

The actors were requested to interview the townspeople, who often, unbeknownst to the actors, were planted by the directors. As a result, the expressions on the actors' faces were unrehearsed.

The actors were given no more than a 35-page outline of the mythology behind the plot before shooting began. All lines were improvised and nearly all the events in the film were unknown to the three actors beforehand, and were often on-camera surprises to them all.

[ElderPredator]

It is a known fact by many that at the MTV Movie Awards just after The Blair Witch Project was released, the three actors appeared to present an award. The movie is complete bullshit as the movie had a costume designer, producer, director, actors, lighting, grips, the whole shabang. The movie was retarded anyway right up until the last 10 seconds where you see the guy standing in the corner. Creepy!

I will admit though that there are many movies based or inspired by true events. Take for example, Goodfellas and Casino. Both these movies were based on or inspired by true events but all the names were changed and dramatic moments were added to make the movie proper to be seen. Situations are made up all the time to make a movie better. Every movie director has to change most things about a story.

[eytank]

"The following is based on actual events. Only the names, locations and events have been changed."

The only good laugh I got out of Anchorman.

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by Madhatter
FARGO SPOLIER





The Coen brothers did it in Fargo and a Japanese women died trying to find the money that the Buscemi character burried along the road.


Still one of the funniest things ever.

[cerealkiller182]

I didnt see it mentioned but Texas chainsaw massacre and psycho were both based On Ed Gein, a famous serial killer. Both movies took one aspect of the character and stretched it. He had an obsession with his mother and he made costumes out of his victims skin.

Also Perfect Storm didn't happen to a T but that boat was in the ocean during that storm and never came back.

[riotstarter]

The worst example of this would have to be Hidalgo. Like cmon!

[bigred760]

The Perfect Storm is actually based on a book of the same name (pretty good book too), and the book is based on real events. The movie took the liberty of adding what happened on the boat while they were out to sea - the book didn't do as much.

I'm guessing that's where the "based" on actual events comes into play.

As far as Open Water and the rest are concerned, don't know much about them.

[CheekyShepherd]

Originally posted by Madhatter
FARGO SPOLIER





The Coen brothers did it in Fargo and a Japanese women died trying to find the money that the Buscemi character burried along the road.


I'm sure that's a myth. How could anyone be that stupid?


If it is true, do you reckon Hollywood will make a film about it? :confused: :(

[Madhatter]

Originally posted by CheekyShepherd
I'm sure that's a myth. How could anyone be that stupid?


If it is true, do you reckon Hollywood will make a film about it? :confused: :(

She was mentally ill

[Lost in Space]

ok kim jum ill
chillaxe
the texas chainsaw masacre did happen on a scale
so did wolf creek
luckily it only happened to an extent thus emplying the "BASED on true events" tagline
and who ares it kinda creeps you out a lil bit more to know that hey maybe this cud happen

[dellamorte dellamore]

I think i agree with this rant , if you're creating a work of fiction , just market it as a work of fiction and stop this based on , inspired by garbage . It never added anything to a film when the filmmakers , marketeers added that claim . Leave that for the packets they hand out during the various premiers , not in the commercials . I really don't care , although , there are times when i would like to know if a particular film is " based " on actual events , when the person it happened to is the one that wrote it , although with all the hucksters , lying weasels , and con artists running around claiming to be writers embellish how they stubbed their toe when they were 10 , i think that whole tag can be taken with a wisp of who the hell cares , most of it prob dint happen anyway .

By the way , check out a little known film called " my little eye " , yeah , eli roth was really inspired by some website in creating hostel , and saw 1 and 2 were so original , there are strong elements of eye to be found in both . A little digression , but someone mentioned how Roth was inspired by some " real " life website , i think he " saw " that film instead .

[cerealkiller182]

Originally posted by riotstarter
The worst example of this would have to be Hidalgo. Like cmon!

Didnt Frank Hopkins end up being a construction worker from Chicago who wrote a western and passed it off as a true story which was then adpated to a screenplay?

[CheekyShepherd]

I was actually convinced that the events depicted in Dog Day Afternoon were faithful to the actual events but I just found this ARTICLE (http://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/onlinessays/JC15folder/RealDogDay.html) written by John Wojtowicz (Al Pacino's character from the movie) and how he airs his disagreement with the depiction of his and other characters in the movie, as well as misrepresentation of key events throughout the narrative.

It's quite interesting, but certainly only read it if you've seen Dog Day Afternoon because it contains some hefty spoilers.

[bigred760]

Is there a difference between "based on real events" and "inspired by a true story?" It sounds like the first should have the movie depict what really happened while the latter seems like somebody saw what happened, thought of something cool to write down - but changed a few things about the movie.

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by Lost in Space
ok kim jum ill
chillaxe
the texas chainsaw masacre did happen on a scale
so did wolf creek
luckily it only happened to an extent thus emplying the "BASED on true events" tagline
and who ares it kinda creeps you out a lil bit more to know that hey maybe this cud happen
Tobe Hooper claims he thought of the film while in a hardware store standing in line. He thought it would be cool to take a chainsaw and rip through the crowd of people. Loosely based on Ed Gein!!!

[jackson13]

I watched 'Two for the Money; the other night, and it was really good. When it was finished I watched the 'Making of' doc only to find out the movie was based on what really happened to a guy named Brandon in real life.

No where, in the marketing for the movie, did I ever hear the words "Based on a true story/actual events'. It actually made me happy that they didnt do that. When it was mentioned in the doc, I thought "huh, cool" instead of "aww god here we go again". They even interviewed the real Brandon guy a little bit about it.

I prefer this way. Dont outright say "based on a true story", keep it a secret, let me find out that way. It helps the whole fantasy thing like many people do at the movies: "could this really happen?". Then, they find out, it did. I like that.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by jackson13
I watched 'Two for the Money; the other night, and it was really good. When it was finished I watched the 'Making of' doc only to find out the movie was based on what really happened to a guy named Brandon in real life.

No where, in the marketing for the movie, did I ever hear the words "Based on a true story/actual events'. It actually made me happy that they didnt do that. When it was mentioned in the doc, I thought "huh, cool" instead of "aww god here we go again". They even interviewed the real Brandon guy a little bit about it.

I prefer this way. Dont outright say "based on a true story", keep it a secret, let me find out that way. It helps the whole fantasy thing like many people do at the movies: "could this really happen?". Then, they find out, it did. I like that.

See, that was the point of my question - that sounds more like it was inspired by true events. Same can be said of Lord of War - Nic Cage's character was based on several gunrunners - though I don't remember if it was stated in the movie or not (read it on IMDB.com)

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by bigred760
See, that was the point of my question - that sounds more like it was inspired by true events. Same can be said of Lord of War - Nic Cage's character was based on several gunrunners - though I don't remember if it was stated in the movie or not (read it on IMDB.com)
It states it in the end credits.

[The Young Son]

veddhead83, you don't seem to understand what they are saying.

When a film is "BASED on actual events" the main events form the BASE of the film. Everything after that can and may be speculation, but it is all still BASED on the actual event. Why is this so hard to understand?

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by The Young Son
veddhead83, you don't seem to understand what they are saying.

When a film is "BASED on actual events" the main events form the BASE of the film. Everything after that can and may be speculation, but it is all still BASED on the actual event. Why is this so hard to understand?

When a film like "Hostel" claims that it is based on actual events - it is actually a lie. The idea came from Eli Roth saying he found a website posting a question, "Wouldn't it be cool if you could pay to have someone tortured or even killed?" You cannot possible tell me they have the right to call that Based on Actual Events??? You don't understand - you must not have read the entire forum. Talk to me when you have.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore


By the way , check out a little known film called " my little eye " , yeah , eli roth was really inspired by some website in creating hostel , and saw 1 and 2 were so original , there are strong elements of eye to be found in both . A little digression , but someone mentioned how Roth was inspired by some " real " life website , i think he " saw " that film instead .

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280969/

Are you talking about this film or another movie? Because I was curious when I read this and searched for it to see if you were right and I found this and it looks nothing like SAW or HOSTEL, if anything it reminds me more of the Blair Witch Project, and it also looks like Halloween Ressurection ripped it off.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Just see it when you get a chance , i dont want to say too much , it will def spoil it for the potential viewers . I think it's a creepy hidden gem that will pay off if someone has patience , and is not addicted to over the top torture fests like Hostel , that are backed by grandmaster tarantino hype .

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Just see it when you get a chance , i dont want to say too much , it will def spoil it for the potential viewers . I think it's a creepy hidden gem that will pay off if someone has patience , and is not addicted to over the top torture fests like Hostel , that are backed by grandmaster tarantino hype .

Will do. I'm extra curious now so I have to see it. :D

[veddhead83]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
I think i agree with this rant , if you're creating a work of fiction , just market it as a work of fiction and stop this based on , inspired by garbage . It never added anything to a film when the filmmakers , marketeers added that claim . Leave that for the packets they hand out during the various premiers , not in the commercials . I really don't care , although , there are times when i would like to know if a particular film is " based " on actual events , when the person it happened to is the one that wrote it , although with all the hucksters , lying weasels , and con artists running around claiming to be writers embellish how they stubbed their toe when they were 10 , i think that whole tag can be taken with a wisp of who the hell cares , most of it prob dint happen anyway .

By the way , check out a little known film called " my little eye " , yeah , eli roth was really inspired by some website in creating hostel , and saw 1 and 2 were so original , there are strong elements of eye to be found in both . A little digression , but someone mentioned how Roth was inspired by some " real " life website , i think he " saw " that film instead .

I will have to check out that movie too.

[veddhead83]

A Brand New Movie stating, "Based on True Events" PRIMEVAL


Of course croc attacks are based on real events, duh.
But a serial killer?? Since when did crocs have malice?? I thought it was just instinct....

[The Postmaster General]

Man, I moved to Minnesota 2 years ago, and I can totally see how someone would die like that. Fuck, it's cold.



On the flip side, Michael Mann in his Miami Vice commentary says that everything that happens in the movie was based on real accounts from law enforcement officers, yet no where does the movie make that claim. It's like the flip side of what vedd is ranting about. Kind of funny because IMO Hostel got a lot of positivity and was a movie I didn't like, and Vice got a lot of negativity and I liked it immensely.

Haha. Worked Vice into the topic. Booyah!

[ZenDude]

Originally posted by Madhatter
FARGO SPOLIER





The Coen brothers did it in Fargo and a Japanese women died trying to find the money that the Buscemi character burried along the road.

REALLY???? BWAAAA HAAAAA HAAAA!!!! Thinning the herd at its finest! :D

[unspoken]

From what I understand about Hostel, the "true events" also took place in Thailand(Slovakia in the movie), and the people subject to torture were actually local volunteers who were being given money for their terribly impoverished families, not kidnapped tourists.

[TeawithBlood]

Originally posted by unspoken
From what I understand about Hostel, the "true events" also took place in Thailand(Slovakia in the movie), and the people subject to torture were actually local volunteers who were being given money for their terribly impoverished families, not kidnapped tourists. I remember from I think on of the commentaries that Eli originally wanted to make a documentary about what was going on in Thailand but it started to get dangerous when he was doing research so since it was such a good story he decided to make up his own story based on what he knew.