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#1dvdfan

02-06-2006, 07:14 AM

OK 3 days ago i got my sirius satelitte radio and sportster boom box to put in my room ok. I only bought it for 2 reasons 1:howard stern and 2:bam maegera radio.

So i love metal ok so i put it on ch. 27 i belive HARD ATTACK!!! ok and soon as i tuned in i heard a song called "NEMO" by a band called NIGHTWISH was on and BOOM!!!! it just clicked that was a great fucking song!!!

So the next day i went to best buy to buy the album called "ONCE" and they had it so i bought it and went home and listend to the entire cd and loved every single song the same which never fiucking happens!!! so i swear i droped every thing after listening to that cd and went stright to tower reords and they had every cd they had made and i bought every one it came to $80$

So as you all know this is my favorite band now!!!

And today im going back and buying thir 2 dvds that they relreased!!!

Now I was wondering if you people like this band as much as i do?!?!?!

I never heard of a band like them before!!!!

also i only haerd the album called "ONCE" i will soon listen to the others!!!

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8808/nightwish042ho.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bonham

02-06-2006, 09:05 AM

I love Nightwish. Once is definetly their best album. Every song is just perfect. The only problem is that they are no more as a band. The singer, Tarja (i think thats her name), got kicked out.

Fear not though. If you enjoyed Nightwish, you'd probably like Lacuna Coil. They are a little softer, but they too have a hot singer with a nice voice.

http://warriorsoflife.altervista.org/desk/Lacuna%20Coil.jpg

Cronos

02-07-2006, 01:24 AM

i love Nighwish, i accidentaly downloaded one of their tracks a few years ago and instantly loved it and bought all their albums

J.Andrew Hosack

02-07-2006, 03:29 PM

I've been a fan for years. Definitely a badass dragonslayer/80's rock band with that operatic vocal. "End of All Hope" rules and their Phantom of the Opera cover is the best I've heard. It rocks!

countchocula

02-07-2006, 04:20 PM

My favorites are Once and Wishmaster. I don't know how the hell they're going to replace Tarja. Her performance on Once is breathtaking.

#1dvdfan

02-08-2006, 01:10 PM

So its true shes leaving!?!?!? fuck man and i just gor into this bands a week ago!!!!!!

FUCK!!!!

The Heart Collector

02-08-2006, 02:53 PM

Shittiest metal band in the history of metal.

countchocula

02-09-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by #1dvdfan
So its true shes leaving!?!?!? fuck man and i just gor into this bands a week ago!!!!!!

FUCK!!!!

She's already left. She would rather pursue her solo career.

X-Nightcrawler

02-12-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Bonham
I love Nightwish. Once is definetly their best album. Every song is just perfect. The only problem is that they are no more as a band. The singer, Tarja (i think thats her name), got kicked out. Agreed, on all those notes, it's one of my favorite badns and it's very bad news about Tarja.

But if it's Nightwish you dig . . .

http://blog.doctissimo.fr/php/blog/The_Rock_and_Roll/images/Within%20Temptation.JPG

It's Within Temptation what you must seek.

Nightwish was my favorite metal band until I found Within Temptation, which oddly enough became my favorite band.

TheJadedGamer

02-19-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Shittiest metal band in the history of metal.

I love you.

Son Gohan

02-19-2006, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Shittiest metal band in the history of metal.

I agree.

This band is awful, there vocals are so hard to digest. It's like so much
power in the vocals they come off sounding retarted.

Even when I find a song were they get the instrumentals right to my ears, there vocals kick in, and I stop playing the song there.

Badbird

03-05-2006, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by #1dvdfan
So its true shes leaving!?!?!? fuck man and i just gor into this bands a week ago!!!!!!

FUCK!!!!

I know, bummer. But I'm not worried. I think these guys will do the right thing, search long and hard, and find a worthy replacement. There are plenty of opera singers out there. And now with the exposure Nightwish has had (huge in Europe), they'll surely get plenty of try outs.

Ignore party poopers like Heat Collector here. Nightwish is increadible. Once is increadible. The only album I don't really care for is their first, "Angels Fall First."

Wish I Had an Angel has got to be one of my all time favorite songs. It just gives me goose bumps.

Badbird

03-05-2006, 04:09 AM

Double post. Next time, try and find a picture under 5000 pixels.

Anyway, I'll fill this space with something fun. There's this woman I work with - doesn't like metal at all - and I was even able to turn her into a Nightwish fan.

adamjohnson

06-26-2006, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Son Gohan
I agree.

This band is awful, there vocals are so hard to digest. It's like so much
power in the vocals they come off sounding retarted.

It is POWER metal after all.

Criminal Rock

06-28-2006, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Shittiest metal band in the history of metal.

If the music is as good as those pictures, then you're probably right...

Cronos

06-28-2006, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Shittiest metal band in the history of metal.

hardly

Tyler_Durden_208

06-28-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by countchocula
She's already left. She would rather pursue her solo career.
Not quite. The rest of the band fired her. They just left her a letter in her dressing room stating their wishes after one of the shows. I'm not sure if they've found a new vocalist yet, I know they were holding tryouts a while back... Hm, a quick trip to ThePRP might let me know...
EDIT: Nope, while they are recording demos, they still have yet to find a new vocalist, and supposedly aren't looking for the exact same type of vocalist, but one that they can "tread new ground" with.

Criminal Rock

06-28-2006, 05:07 PM

Good lord... I just visited their website, these guys are AWFUL. I don’t understand why, or how, they even have any fans.. or why they even enjoy there own music for that matter.

Techno + wannabe metal + opera + weird ass sounds = GAY VIDEOGAME MUSIC.

This music does nothing but make me laugh. And I feel sorry for all who enjoy.

adamjohnson

06-28-2006, 07:19 PM

Well then feel sorry for me then jerky jerk. Nightwish kicks ass. Not everyone likes Power Metal.

X-Nightcrawler

06-29-2006, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by adamjohnson
Well then feel sorry for me then jerky jerk. Nightwish kicks ass. Not everyone likes Power Metal. No band in the universe is liked by all. Many (MANY) "music knowledgables" think every band in the universe sucks except the ones that inspired their own garage bands.

And no, that's not directed towards Tai Mei Jew. I just haven't seen many threads about a band without someone going "Worst. Band. Ever."

I agree, Nightwish kicks ass (Once is a masterpiece), too bad Tarja is gone. I mean, I think Within Temptation is ten times the band (really give a try to songs from "The Silent Force" if you like Nightwish), but Nightwish definitely is my second favorite metal band.

And yeah, I'm a fan of power metal. Hell, I'm a fan of all types of metal (I'm falling in love with death and black metal right now), except Numetal which I'm not very much a fan of. Have also in mind I'm not very knowledgable in music, I just download everything everyone suggests.

Dirtyfrog

07-03-2007, 11:29 PM

They say that when a ship is sinking , the rats leave first and the captain stays until the end.

Well , talking about Nightwish , its bad Tarja was kicked out and ppl threw the towel because the new announced singer is as hot a piece of ass and the voice sounds good so far. Althought I will admit that it is not as good as Tarja. ( She had a unique warmth in her tone and it's hard to beat THE group voice from scratch ) , we have to remember that Nightwish is a great symphonic metal band that no one can match. Vocal is 1 thing , music is another.

Tarja's NEMO --> http://nightwish.com/files/audio/nemo-sample.mp3

Annette's EVA --> http://nightwish.com/files/audio/eva-sample.mp3

almost equal ..... BUT

Annette's 7 Days To The Wolf --> http://nightwish.com/files/audio/SevenMP3.mp3

Superb musical track but Anette's vocal lacks a bit in high pitch IMO.

Taking the part of a well-liked good singer isn't the easiest thing to do but I'm willing to give her a chance.

http://strefa.rockmetal.art.pl/ankieta/vibeke-stene.jpg

Greeting from Anette are found here : http://nightwish.1g.fi/NIGHTWISH1.mpg

Cronos

07-03-2007, 11:43 PM

hmmmm, not bad but i'll have to wait for some full tracks to get a better feel for her singing

X-Nightcrawler

07-03-2007, 11:48 PM

I literally got chills with that sample ("Eva") you just posted. Holy shit, now I can't wait for a new album.

And she's cute as hell.

countchocula

07-04-2007, 05:31 PM

Um, that's not Annette. That's a picture of Vibeke, the ex-singer from Tristania.

Dirtyfrog

07-04-2007, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by countchocula
Um, that's not Annette. That's a picture of Vibeke, the ex-singer from Tristania.

Could be. Too many picture available about the new singer , i just picked one in the bunch . Sorry if i mislead ppl with the picture but they do look alike.

Check the video for the real Annette.

X-Nightcrawler

07-05-2007, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by countchocula
Um, that's not Annette. That's a picture of Vibeke, the ex-singer from Tristania. Oh.

Well Vibeke is cute as hell.

But I just watched the video of Anette and she's cute too. At least looks cuter than Tarja. Never found the whole Morticia look very attractive.

Badbird

07-07-2007, 11:30 PM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The new song is nice, but hardly a good indicator. But I don't think she has quite the "oomph" that Tarja had.

I wonder how good a singer they could have found had they not expected her to be beautiful as well.

X-Nightcrawler

02-24-2008, 06:16 PM

I'm bumping this thread to ask some stuff to the fans who didn't jump off the wagon when Tarja left.

What did you guys think of "Dark Passion Play", now that the whole "Argh Anette!" thing has boiled over? I personally loved it, and find it to be my favorite Nightwish after "Once" and "Century Child". I adore Anette. She has a great voice (which, okay, isn't Nightwishy at all, but who cares?) and lots of presence. "Amaranth" and "For The Heart I Once Had" are fucking great.

Second in the list, has anyone listened to any of Tarja's solo stuff? I got her album "My Winter Storm" and have given it a thorough listen. Found it to be very purdy. Some of the tracks are a little boring, but overall it's pretty solid. Think Nightwish when they're being their mellowest and most melancholic ("Forever Yours", "Sleeping Sun", if you like those), without the heavy guitarwork and chorals. "I Walk Alone" and "The Reign" are my favorites right now.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who is still a Nightwish fan. Might get to see them live in a couple of months, should be interesting.

Crimson_Regret

02-24-2008, 06:42 PM

The 1st track on the new album is fucking mindblowing... Like seriously...

But the rest is kind of... meh, its ok for a few listens. But its the same shit that every band is doing now.

I'm meant to be seeing them live next month, don't think i'm going to bother though.

X-Nightcrawler

02-24-2008, 07:09 PM

The 1st track on the new album is fucking mindblowing... Like seriously...I agree, "The Poet and the Pendulum" is insane. That stuff is epic.

Tuukka

02-24-2008, 10:51 PM

Hopefully I'm not the only one who is still a Nightwish fan. Might get to see them live in a couple of months, should be interesting.

Here in Europe the album had great sales, so the change of singer turned out to be a great success for them. I was sceptic how the fans would take it, but they stayed loyal. It's Holopainen's band, anyway. Turunen and her husband really screwed things up and left the band no choice but to fire Turunen.

Personally I like Anette's sound more, even if removes the opera gimmick from the band. Never been a fan of the band, thought. But I respect what they do, and of course I support a local band who has made it big internationally.

Cronos

02-25-2008, 03:11 PM

I really wasn't sure about their new album but after I set it playing instantly fell in love with it, awesome album and one of their best, the instrumental disc is also awesome. Love Bye Bye Beautiful.

countchocula

02-26-2008, 01:03 AM

Argh Annette!!!

Badbird

02-26-2008, 02:10 AM

Annette has absolutely no range or strength in her voice. The whole time I was listening to the new album, I couldn't help but think how much better it would be with Tarja. Annette is spectacularly bland.

It's a testament to the music ability of the band that the album is still pretty good.

I really like Tarja's solo album. It's solid, but clearly put together by committee.

The way I see it is this: Tarja and Nightwish need each other. As separate works, they will never be complete. They will always be good, but not great. There will always be that "what if" factor.

Hopefully a few years down the road they can reconcile their differences.

LordSimen

02-26-2008, 01:01 PM

Nightwish are a wonderful band and I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't enjoy their music.

X-Nightcrawler

02-26-2008, 09:16 PM

Argh Annette!!!How dare you make jest of my post! Now go write some death metal articles.
. . . and put the link back on your profile.

Nightwish are a wonderful band and I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't enjoy their music.
What did you think of DPP, Simen?

LordSimen

02-27-2008, 01:46 AM

What did you think of DPP, Simen?

Great album. :cool:

Crimson_Regret

02-27-2008, 04:43 AM

A little off topic here...

Do you guys listen to the other 'similar' bands? After Forever, Epica, Stream of Passion etc..?

In my opinion, Epica's latest release far outshines Nightwish's.

You should also check out stuff like The Gathering's older stuff (not that there anything wrong with the new stuff, its just not 'metal' anymore), Draconian, Tristania... Assuming that you havn't already, of course.

LordSimen

02-27-2008, 12:31 PM

X-Nightcrawler

02-27-2008, 12:54 PM

Through Nightwish I began getting interested in other kinds of metal (as seen in the metal thread that's dying like some sort of dying patient), so I began searching for other similar bands.

Within Temptation, as I've pimped many times around here, is my favorite. But I also love Epica (haven't heard their latest, but "The Phantom Agony" and "Consign to Oblivion" are fantastic), Lacuna Coil ("In A Reverie" is so underappreciated; better than "Comalies" for me), Theatre of Tragedy, Leaves' Eyes (I'm a sucker for Liv Kristine), Tristania, Xandria, Cadmenia, even Beautiful Sin (though that's, what?).

Cool genre.

Crimson_Regret

02-27-2008, 01:59 PM

Lacuna Coil is one of my favourite bands, and you are right, In A Reverie is underappreciated, as are the 2 EP's... Unleashed Memories is perhaps my favourite though... I'm anticipating the new release!

You really need to get Epica's new one 'The Divine Conspiracy' - It's bloody brilliant!

As for Liv Kristine... I HATE Leaves' Eyes, really hate them. It wishy washy, wet and boring (In my opinion :P) But the old ToT stuff is pretty good... very atmospheric, Dark Velvet They Fear is wonderful!

Hmmm... there should be a female fronted metal thread or something.

countchocula

02-27-2008, 02:17 PM

Crimson_Regret

02-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Hmmm...

I have listened to all of the above, and alot of them are really quite good. But none really stand out to me as doing anything different.

Octavia, Visions of Atlantis and Imperia are my favourites from the list, but its nothing to go crazy over....

Angtoria are pretty awful IMO, REALLY middle of the road.

X-Nightcrawler

02-27-2008, 05:00 PM

Here are female-fronted metal bands that you ("you" being no one in particular...so that's you, X) should listen to...

Estuary
Octavia Sperati
Amaran
Visions of Atlantis
Imperia
Angtoria
The DreamsideOut of those I've only heard Octavia Sperati and Angtoria. The former is great, the latter a little too much on chorals. Like WT on steroids.

I think I've heard something from Estuary but not sure.

And yeah, Unleashed Memories = tits. Too bad you don't like Leaves' Eyes. It has some interesting songs. "Into Your Light" and "Solemn Sea" are great. But then I just love Liv Kristine. My favorite Theatre of Tragedy is "A Hamlet for a Slothful Vessel".

Crimson_Regret

02-27-2008, 05:28 PM

Ha... i've just realised I called the album 'Dark velvet they fear' rather than 'Velvet Darkness they fear'...

Anyway... I'll make a thread about all of this stuff at some point, rather than hijacking this one further! :) Its cool that some people here love the genre as much as me.

HannibalGuy

02-29-2008, 06:35 PM

Not a huge fan but I do enjoy a few of their songs. I never really gave a crap about the whole debate over the new singer if she's better than Tarja or whatever but I really fucking like that "Amaranth" song. The chorus makes my ears happy.

EZM22

03-12-2008, 02:17 PM

It's Within Temptation what you must seek.

Nightwish was my favorite metal band until I found Within Temptation, which oddly enough became my favorite band.

I'm listening to THE HEART OF EVERYTHING right now... damn, this band rocks!!! Sharon den Adel has an awesome voice and the songs are pretty damn emotional.

This band is Evanescence done right (and heavier).

X-Nightcrawler

03-12-2008, 02:23 PM

I'm listening to THE HEART OF EVERYTHING right now... damn, this band rocks!!! Sharon den Adel has an awesome voice and the songs are pretty damn emotional.

Is that the first album you hear by them? If it is, do listen to "The Silent Force" and "Mother Earth". The first is incredible, better than "Heart", the second is great. "The Heart of Everything" is fantastic, but "The Silent Force" is a little better in my opinion, more heartfelt. Just have in mind that "What Have You Done" really, really isn't their sound. It was a song made to catch people's attention.

I'm gonna see them live in three weeks for the first time. Can't fucking wait.

This band is Evanescence done right.Woo.

Sidebot

03-12-2008, 10:38 PM

Nightwish was the band that got me into metal. Just before Century Child came out I heard Wishmaster (the song) and Over The Hill and Far Away and I was just blown away. Before that I was listening to the likes of Creed, Chili Peppers and Tool so this was something insanely different for me.

Their best albums IMO are Oceanborn and the new one Dark Passion Play. I still prefer Tarja's vocals but I think Anette is great as well and the way things are now, we get a Nightwish album and a Tarja solo album, so like 2 Nightwishs' :P

As for the Leaves' Eyes talkins in this thread, I think they are great, I just recently bought both albums and Vinland Saga is definately the stronger of the 2.

Crimson_Regret

03-13-2008, 05:26 AM

Is that the first album you hear by them? If it is, do listen to "The Silent Force" and "Mother Earth". The first is incredible, better than "Heart", the second is great. "The Heart of Everything" is fantastic, but "The Silent Force" is a little better in my opinion, more heartfelt. Just have in mind that "What Have You Done" really, really isn't their sound. It was a song made to catch people's attention.

I'm gonna see them live in three weeks for the first time. Can't fucking wait.

Woo.

I dunno, I like 'The Silent Force' but I always thought it was a little weak, I'm not sure why... I haven't actually listened to it once since THOE came out.

You should also check out their older 'darker' stuff.. Enter and The Dance are brilliant albums.

As for seeing them live, I've seen them 9 times now... or maybe its 10, they have blown me away everytime! Really incredible live band. I've been lucky enough to meet them a few times too, very nice people!

X-Nightcrawler

03-13-2008, 11:52 AM

I dunno, I like 'The Silent Force' but I always thought it was a little weak, I'm not sure why... I haven't actually listened to it once since THOE came out.

You should also check out their older 'darker' stuff.. Enter and The Dance are brilliant albums.

As for seeing them live, I've seen them 9 times now... or maybe its 10, they have blown me away everytime! Really incredible live band. I've been lucky enough to meet them a few times too, very nice people!
Yeah, I have all their tracks. It's the only band in existence whose stuff I really seek out obsessively. "The Dance" is great. "Enter" is all right, I think they found themselves somewhere around "Mother Earth".

And that's fucking awesome you've seen them so many times. I have both live DVDs and they seem like incredible performers, so I had been lusting for a day they'd come to Mexico (they had only come once 3 years ago, before I even knew them); I jumped at this chance. There's also a "meet and greet" at the end, so I'll get a chance to meet them. Again, no other band I've ever been interested in meeting.

Did you see them in "The Heart of Everything" tour? How are those songs live? Just as awesome?

Crimson_Regret

03-13-2008, 12:59 PM

X-Nightcrawler

03-13-2008, 01:13 PM

Most of the time i've seen them has been during THOE tours...

Those songs really rule! The Howling and The Heart of Everything are just completely brilliant! The highlights of the shows for me are always 'Deciever of Fools'. 'Ice Queen' and 'Mother Earth' though... Its just insane!

Ahhh... Mexico, I'm guessing the venues will be pretty small there? Over here in the UK they are playing massive venues, which i really don't like. I got to see them 4 times in America last year though, in tiny venues - that was AWESOME! :cool:

Extremely small. And in the dodgiest part of the city (which is pretty scary, but hey).

I can't wait to hear "Our Solemn Hour" live, that shit must be chill-inducing, same for "Jillian". And yes, they seem to ace "Ice Queen" every time. Do they play a lot of songs? Because I went to an Evanescence concert a few months ago and they didn't really play that much. The "Java Island" concert looked great because they played so much; I hope it's like that every time.