College vs Pros

[Ripper1888]

College vs Pros what do you enjoy more college sports or the pro game?

I like college more, I think the games are more exciting and fun to watch and the atmosphere at college sporting events are so much better than the pros in most cases.

[bfox1220]

Although Ive never really been a fan of any college team I do agree that it is more exciting because there playing with heart and for there team not just for there next paycheck..***Cough...Terrel Owens....Cough***

[riotstarter]

Great thread. But clarify, what sport are you referring to?

[jeo4]

It depends on what I'm watching. Pro football is my favorite sport, but I'd rather watch college basketball than the NBA.

[Ripper1888]

Originally posted by riotstarter
Great thread. But clarify, what sport are you referring to?

Any and all

Me I enjoy college sports in general more than the pros I still enjoy the pros just not as much as college.

[bigred760]

I also enjoy watching college football and basketball over anything in the pros. Professionals don't seem to have much loyalty to any particular team - constantly looking for more money with a different team, free agency, etc. etc. In college, players want to win above all else.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by bigred760
Professionals don't seem to have much loyalty to any particular team

That's because they only play three-to-four years before they hopskotch back to life or the pros. MOST pro athletes will give you at least three-to-four years with a team. Maybe more.

it is more exciting because there playing with heart and for there team not just for there next paycheck.

You're right. The players only get a 20-30,000 dollar scholarship. Meanwhile, the colleges rake in everyone else's money like the sport is going out of style.

We can't ever have a proper NCAA football tournament, because the colleges rake in too much money with their bowl games. The players don't get jack shit, and the fans watch each championship season get dicked over because of one upset game.

Plus, NCAA football is amateurish. The entire quarterback scheme has went from pocket passing to checking off your two wideouts and then scrambling for forty-five miracle yards.

ooooooooo Bobby Bowden and his Florida State Seminoles play Duke, Wake Forest, and The Citadel...... ooooo holy shit, what fucking games of excitement.

Don't get me wrong, there are upsets in college football, and there always will be. But the money instead of going to the players, goes to old rich white men who were already rich to begin with. I do think that NFL players are overpaid, but hey, people buy into it, so the money has to go somewhere. Anything can happen any given week in the NFL. The talent is on a much greater level, and like Michael Vick is finding out, scrambling might have made you a star as a Hokie, but sooner or later his flash in the pan ass is going to get realized for the half-rate passer that he is. The anti-brainwashing kool-aid is being distributed to a Wal-Mart near you.

/irony

[bigred760]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
That's because they only play three-to-four years before they hopskotch back to life or the pros. MOST pro athletes will give you at least three-to-four years with a team. Maybe more.

That's the beauty of the college system. MOST pro athletes will give you 3-4 years, but they don't retire after that or go to a different league.


You're right. The players only get a 20-30,000 dollar scholarship. Meanwhile, the colleges rake in everyone else's money like the sport is going out of style.

That's life. And receiving a scholarship is quite different than getting a paycheck every week. And you don't ever hear college players bitching about the size of their scholarships (mostly you just hear about the legal troubles they're in, like my boy Marcus Vick).


We can't ever have a proper NCAA football tournament, because the colleges rake in too much money with their bowl games. The players don't get jack shit, and the fans watch each championship season get dicked over because of one upset game.

Yeah, I'll give you that. I wouldn't say every season - last season was pretty much cut and dry. But the season before that - Auburn got screwed.


Plus, NCAA football is amateurish. The entire quarterback scheme has went from pocket passing to checking off your two wideouts and then scrambling for forty-five miracle yards.

Matt Leinart, Brady Quinn, Jay Cutler. Yeah, I don't think they got 45 rushing yards all season . . . combined. Yeah, QBs like Vince Young and the Vicks add the running threat to the game, but for me, just makes it more exciting. Don't see how that makes it amateurish.


ooooooooo Bobby Bowden and his Florida State Seminoles play Duke, Wake Forest, and The Citadel...... ooooo holy shit, what fucking games of excitement.

That's why you only see the "exciting" games on TV: FSU vs. Miami, Ohio State/Michigan, Notre Dame/USC, Georgia/Florida. When was the last time you saw Duke play football on national television.


Don't get me wrong, there are upsets in college football, and there always will be. But the money instead of going to the players, goes to old rich white men who were already rich to begin with. I do think that NFL players are overpaid, but hey, people buy into it, so the money has to go somewhere. Anything can happen any given week in the NFL. The talent is on a much greater level, and like Michael Vick is finding out, scrambling might have made you a star as a Hokie, but sooner or later his flash in the pan ass is going to get realized for the half-rate passer that he is. The anti-brainwashing kool-aid is being distributed to a Wal-Mart near you.


If you're bitching about where the college money goes - it doesn't go to old rich white men, not all of it anyway. It goes to the school. I went to Virginia Tech and the football team was just starting to get national attention (thanks to my boy Michael Vick). The school has grown big time, since I first was there and since I graduated. Who are these rich old white men?
Don't get me wrong, I love watching the NFL. Lots of exciting stuff there too. But I just prefer college - probably because Virginia Tech has a good football program. Plus, there's the little things - like hearing a player bitch about the size of a signing bonus, or how his QB sucks, or something like that. Just me.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by bigred760
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That's life. And receiving a scholarship is quite different than getting a paycheck every week. And you don't ever hear college players bitching about the size of their scholarships (mostly you just hear about the legal troubles they're in, like my boy Marcus Vick).



Yeah, I'll give you that. I wouldn't say every season - last season was pretty much cut and dry. But the season before that - Auburn got screwed.



Matt Leinart, Brady Quinn, Jay Cutler. Yeah, I don't think they got 45 rushing yards all season . . . combined. Yeah, QBs like Vince Young and the Vicks add the running threat to the game, but for me, just makes it more exciting. Don't see how that makes it amateurish.



That's why you only see the "exciting" games on TV: FSU vs. Miami, Ohio State/Michigan, Notre Dame/USC, Georgia/Florida. When was the last time you saw Duke play football on national television.



If you're bitching about where the college money goes - it doesn't go to old rich white men, not all of it anyway. It goes to the school. I went to Virginia Tech and the football team was just starting to get national attention (thanks to my boy Michael Vick). The school has grown big time, since I first was there and since I graduated. Who are these rich old white men?

Don't get me wrong, I love watching the NFL. Lots of exciting stuff there too. But I just prefer college - probably because Virginia Tech has a good football program. Plus, there's the little things - like hearing a player bitch about the size of a signing bonus, or how his QB sucks, or something like that. Just me.

That's life? I could use that for every excuse of my argument. The kids don't make the money, the schools do. Who runs the schools? Who spends this money that is being made? The schools, and the rich men who run them.

Yes, you hear about their legal troubles, which is more irritating than someone bitching about a contract to be honest. The NCAA supresses the voice of the athletes, or else we'd hear about the kids bitching about the schools for not playing them, or how they've transferred schools because the coach wouldn't let them showcase their talent enough. In the NCAA, these kids are forced to be nothing more than muted, generic robots half of the time.

What else do you hear about with the NCAA? Oooo someone gave this quarterback two-hundred dollars. Or maybe someone's hounding him because he's driving a new car. "Oh my god! He's suspended for the first three games for violating policy by accepting a free meal at Denny's!" It's lame facism at its finest. Not life.

Then the great Matt Leinart last year, I had to hear people bitching because he was using the college system to his advantage by taking ballroom dancing and other horseshit classes when he already had enough credits to graduate. Whatever. This shit is just as irritating as Drew Rosenhaus.

Oh, by the way... it's funny you mention Jay Cutler. Because I could have sworn to God I never heard his name until the pro scouts came sniffing. BY ANYONE.

Then you give examples of Quinn and Leinart. Yes, not every quarterback is a fast scrambler. But aside from those three, everyone else pretty much is. There's about 50 Division 1A schools and you give me three quarterbacks, one who nobody thought of until February. And any other quarterback that's not a scrambler, probably just doesn't have an arm that works past 15 yards.

The super-duper offensive schemes used in college football isn't exciting to me, it's lame. It's lame because these schools that put up five wideouts and play shotgun the whole game only do so because they know that no college team has that many good defensive backs. Seriously, most colleges don't have diddly shit in talent, and the game simply just gets exposed by their amount of amateurs. Five wideouts mean you're probably going to have to run the dime formation, which leaves three or four lineman, maybe a linebacker, and the rest defensive backs. With the extra DB's on the field you've got 5'7 145 lb. scrubs who barely made the team trying to come in on the run when they hike the ball to play a HB direct up the middle. Not my idea of the greatest realm of the game.

It doesn't matter what games you are seeing on TV. The fact of the matter is that top ranked teams play dipshit schools like Duke or some off-the-wall Florida team just to spank them 75-10 and orgasm over themselves. It's not impressive. Teams literally try to keep a marginal quota on the number of "good teams" they play each year, because they don't want their schedule to be too tough. :(

And as for the old rich white men... College Football makes WAY more money than the NFL ever will. The tickets, the merchandise, and the million dollar bowl games keep an untapped amount of cash flowing into the schools, and you're telling me that they basically only get used to improve the school. Bullshit. See who runs these schools, find out how many homes they have, how many summer homes they own, what kind of cars they drive, and exactly how many prostitutes they get to bank on a quarterly basis. THEY soak up this money, and you cannot tell me that it ONLY goes into the schools to help improve them. No way. People are getting blowjobs off of this money that never played a down in the fucking Outback bowl.

[bigred760]

It sounds like you're taking this personally.

I prefer college football. I don't really care where the money for ticket sales, merchandising, etc. etc. goes - school improvement, scholarships, alumni funds, whatever. The president or dean of a university runs it and they get a salary.

Yeah, in college you hear about some superstar getting $200 or a car or something. What do you hear about in the pros, some guy failed a drug test again, somebody tested positive for steroids, and the legal troubles aren't limited to the college level.

At least in college, the players aren't worrying about how much money they can get during the next free agency period, or which Super Bowl bound team they could get traded to or sign with. In college, if you transfer, you sit out a year. Let the universities and boosters worry about the money. The players don't worry about that.

Oh God forbid a quarterback is talented enough to be able to run fast and throw accurately. For me it makes it more exciting. And I also think that there are plenty of talented defense backs out there: Ohio State had a few, and so did my boys, Virginia Tech.

And what, the NFL doesn't have any shitty teams or blowouts? What? The Texans and 49ers played well against Pittsburgh and Seattle?

Thanks for mentioning Drew Rosenhaus. He's an asshole I hate to see pop up everywhere.

I prefer college. I went to a school that had a kickass football team - sue me. I'll let you worry about where the money goes. I like watching the pros too - Go Falcons!!, I just hate hearing all the bitching (most recently from Terrell Owens) about how they're not getting the money they "deserve" or their own personal way.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by bigred760
It sounds like you're taking this personally.


No, I just like to rant. I don't usually have a good reason anymore, though.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
No, I just like to rant. I don't usually have a good reason anymore, though.

:D

Do you need a good reason?

[shoe1985]

They are both different games. College is more about winning, but that isn't always true. Most college players give it their all so they can impress scouts, so they can get the big bucks. NFL is the real deal. I like both brands, which I guess is how to phrase them. They are both different and both fun.