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PorcheRacer
07-14-2002, 12:30 PM
This list is from a website, Leisure Suite, or something like that. The're supposed to be a macho guy review site, like moviesforguys.com. But just look at there top ten of 2000 list. Are they gay?


Ten Best Movies of 2001

10. Dinner Rush (dir: Bob Giraldi)
A fun comedy/drama about the goings on at a trendy Manhattan restaurant on a very eventful night. There's Danny Aiello, mobsters, and lots of yummy yummy food on display.

9. Memento (dir: Christopher Nolan)

Ultimately not completely satisfying, but its clever told-in-reverse structure is pretty cool. Credit the movie with pulling off something pretty damn challenging, screenplay-wise. Read my original review.

8. Gosford Park (dir: Robert Altman)
It took me the whole damn picture to figure out which actor was Lady Such-and-Such and who was wife or daughter to who . . . I guess that's what makes it a mystery. Regardless, this class comedy from Robert Altman (who had a film on my "Worst" list last year) is a hoot.

7. With a Friend Like Harry (dir: Dominik Moll)

Attention young filmmakers: a movie with a propeller-headed monkey flying through a dentist's office gets an automatic nod on my top ten list. Hence the inclusion of this French comedy/thriller about choosing your friends carefully. Read my original review.

6. The Anniversary Party (dir: Jennifer Jason Leigh, Alan Cumming)
Lots of fine acting and big stars (Kevin Kline, Gwyneth Paltrow) on display, but more of an actor's showcase than a major motion picture. Still, any movie that's about so little and still manages to be this entertaining gets extra points.

5. Mulholland Drive (dir: David Lynch)

What's it about? It's about David Lynch being nutty. When Hollywood conventions have you down, it's bracingly therapeutic to watch David Lynch doing whatever crazy thing pops into his head. Plus this flick has lesbians, and it's no secret that I like lesbians. Read my original review.

4. Sexy Beast (dir: Jonathan Glazer)
Surely Ben Kingsley hatched fully formed from an egg sac in great Thespus' abdomen. His performance as Don Logan, a mobster who won't take no for an answer, is so nuanced, with shades of insecurity and psychosis, that if he doesn't get an Oscar I'm officially resigning as head of the Academy.

3. Moulin Rouge (dir: Baz Luhrmann)

The funny thing is that I didn't even love Moulin Rouge when I first saw it. Yet it stayed in my mind so that within a week I had the urge to see it again, and I bought the DVD as soon as it came out. Not everyone can handle this film's relentless visual assault (and maybe those who can't are better people than those of us who can), but there's never been a movie that looked like this one, and that makes it a worthy entry near the top of the list. Read my original review.

2. Ocean's 11 (dir: Steven Soderbergh)
This simple: if you like movies you'll like Ocean's 11. After his last misfire, the overrated Traffic, Soderbergh came back big time with this enormously entertaining caper flick.

1. Lantana (dir: Ray Lawrence)

Not too many people are seeing this Australian import, and it's a pity. A kind of Playing By Heart crossed with a murder mystery, it was my favorite film this year. Once you get over the fact that all the numerous characters (played by Anthony LaPaglia, Geoffrey Rush, and Barbara Hershey, among others) are related to each other in like 6 different ways, it's incredibly funny, entertaining, and surprisingly life-affirming.

Ten Worst Movies of 2001

Note that a bad movie might be upgraded to "worst of" if I saw it on any other critic's Top Ten list or if it made a lot of money at the box office. But whatever the reason, all the following are stinkers:

10. Planet of the Apes
I never objected to the idea of a remake, but somehow they made a movie about talking monkeys that isn't any fun at all.

9. The Pledge
Dark and tiresome drama with a lousy performance from Jack Nicholson. Read my original review.

8. Bridget Jones's Diary
I'll be in trouble with a certain special someone for disliking this annoying picture. But it just went on and on and on . . .

7. Hearts in Atlantis
Hannibal Lecter in an uplifting coming-of-age picture? Um, no. Read my original review.

6. Valentine
Good actresses in this lame slasher flick keep it from being too far down the list. Read my original review.

5. 15 Minutes
A drama about media and celebrity from a guy who didn't bother to learn about either. Insipid.

4. Double Take
I got sucked into this P.O.S. by a fantastic trailer. Boy did I feel like an asshole. Read my original review.

3. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
One laugh. Remind me why Kevin Smith is highly regarded? Read my original review.

2. Thir13en Ghosts
Shannon Elizabeth is in it and she doesn't get naked? Ninety minutes of Tony Shalhoub running from monsters does not an entertainment make.

1. Baise-Moi
You probably didn't see this ultra-violent French arthouse porn flick. You were lucky. Read my original review.

Assorted Awards

Best Actress
Sissy Spacek. Damn she was good in In the Bedroom. Who knew she could be so compelling when not drenched in pig's blood?

Best Actor
Gene Hackman. Isn't he always?

Best Line
From Vanilla Sky: "I think she's the saddest girl to ever hold a martini." Unfortunately, the movie repeats it 3 times.

Movie That Imploded in the Last 20 Minutes Award
A tie between A.I. and Vanilla Sky. Not that either was any great shakes prior to the last 20 minutes.

Worst Movie I Didn't See Award
Another tie: The Majestic and Pearl Harbor. An important historical film and the first guy they thought of was soulless hack Michael Bay? What's next, a screwball comedy from David Fincher?

movielover-9
07-14-2002, 02:26 PM
What do you mean are they gay? Their opinions are their opinions. Besides 13 Ghosts DID suck. I'd like to see your Top 10 List because it probably looks like their Top 10 Worst list.

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PorcheRacer
07-14-2002, 02:52 PM
You want my Top Ten? Well, you got my Top 50. They are pretending to be all macho and stuff and the put Moulin Rouge as there number 3rd favorite movie of 2000? And, what's up with there Worst Movie I Havn't Seen? God, you can't judge a movie before you see it. And, it there list doesn't make sense. "Well, this movie isn't that good, This movie shouldn't really be on here, etc! Like, make up your mind. Put the good ones on the top ten list and the bad ones on the other list.


1.Joy Ride
2.Cool Runnings
3.Good Will Hunting
4.Nothing To Lose
5. Armageddon
6. The Matrix
7. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
8. Sling Blade
9. Planes, Trains & Automobiles
10.Rain Man
11.A Few Good Men
12.Terminator 2: Judgment Day
13.Harley Davidson & The Marlboro Man
14.Heist
15.Cocktail
16.Total Recall
17.Eraser
18.Rocky
19.Rocky II
20.Rush Hour
21.The Rock
22.Vanilla Sky
23.Dumb & Dumber
24.Lethal Weapon 4
25.Snatch
26.Bean: The Movie
27.Spider-Man
28.The Patriot
29.Tremors
30.True Lies
31.Die Hard With A Vengeance
32.Deep Blue Sea
33.BASEketball
34.Twister
35.Lake Placid
36.Jerry Maguire
37.Hot Shots!
38.Pearl Harbor
39.Chasing Amy
40.Clerks
41.Vacation
42.Christmas Vacation
43.Patch Adams
44.Halloween: H20
45.Deep Rising
46.The Negotiator
47.Face/Off
48.Black Hawk Down
49.Commando
50. Memento/Midnight Run (tie)

Honorable Mention-Con Air, Kiss Of The Dragon and Romeo Must Die & Rock Star.

MiddleEarthArwen
07-14-2002, 04:36 PM
I honestly must admit, I've never seen Cocktail on anyones top *anything* list...

Michael Corleone
07-14-2002, 05:03 PM
The 10 best list is actually pretty accurate. 5 of the films are on my list as well.

PorcheRacer
07-14-2002, 05:11 PM
Yeah, the list has good movies on it but none of them are macho. The site is supposed to be a macho guy site.

BadCoverVersion
07-14-2002, 05:53 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PorcheRacer:
Yeah, the list has good movies on it but none of them are macho. The site is supposed to be a macho guy site.</font>

Bloody hell...You get about a bit don't you little rapskallion...arousing my anger once again!

What the fuck...I'm confused?

What exactly were you looking for...?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005N5QW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005QAP6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005U172.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"Macho" enough for ya?

PorcheRacer
07-14-2002, 05:57 PM
Ummmm...WTF?

joelc
07-14-2002, 06:08 PM
the top 10 is really decent choices.

But the top 10 worst is totally unfair. Jay and Silent Bob, Bridget Jones and Baise-Moi sure doesn't deserve to get on a top 10 worst. Maybe those guys are moralistic macho?

adidas12185
07-14-2002, 10:25 PM
15 Minutes was a good, creative, and intelligent thriller. Its not predictable either like 90% of other films out there.

5th worse movie of 2001?... lol!

urbanlegend23
07-15-2002, 12:27 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">But just look at their top 10 of 2000 list</font>

If I'm right, I believe that what you posted is a top 10 of 2001 list!

Their opinions are not that bad. It's just their opinion, everyone has one, so get over it.

Mikey2Dope
07-15-2002, 02:52 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by movielover-9:
What do you mean are they gay? Their opinions are their opinions.</font>

My thoughts exactly. And PorcheRacer you shouldn't make fun of other peoples lists when your Top 50 ain't that great either.



[This message has been edited by Mikey2Dope (edited 07-15-2002).]

CheekyShepherd
07-15-2002, 03:13 AM
I thought 15 minutes was a very good film.

An uncliched, well-acted thriller. With an excellent central performance by Mr DeNiro. Although, I can understand why people wouldn't like it.

EBastard
07-15-2002, 03:45 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BadCoverVersion:
Bloody hell...You get about a bit don't you little rapskallion...arousing my anger once again!

What the fuck...I'm confused?

What exactly were you looking for...?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005N5QW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
</font>Hey,for a B-movie,"Replicant" is right up there with "A Better Way To Die" as one of the best B-movies ever made.

ColinM
07-15-2002, 03:14 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PorcheRacer:
You want my Top Ten? Well, you got my Top 50. They are pretending to be all macho and stuff and the put Moulin Rouge as there number 3rd favorite movie of 2000? And, what's up with there Worst Movie I Havn't Seen? God, you can't judge a movie before you see it. And, it there list doesn't make sense. "Well, this movie isn't that good, This movie shouldn't really be on here, etc! Like, make up your mind. Put the good ones on the top ten list and the bad ones on the other list.


1.Joy Ride
2.Cool Runnings
3.Good Will Hunting
4.Nothing To Lose
5. Armageddon
6. The Matrix
7. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
8. Sling Blade
9. Planes, Trains & Automobiles
10.Rain Man
11.A Few Good Men
12.Terminator 2: Judgment Day
13.Harley Davidson & The Marlboro Man
14.Heist
15.Cocktail
16.Total Recall
17.Eraser
18.Rocky
19.Rocky II
20.Rush Hour
21.The Rock
22.Vanilla Sky
23.Dumb & Dumber
24.Lethal Weapon 4
25.Snatch
26.Bean: The Movie
27.Spider-Man
28.The Patriot
29.Tremors
30.True Lies
31.Die Hard With A Vengeance
32.Deep Blue Sea
33.BASEketball
34.Twister
35.Lake Placid
36.Jerry Maguire
37.Hot Shots!
38.Pearl Harbor
39.Chasing Amy
40.Clerks
41.Vacation
42.Christmas Vacation
43.Patch Adams
44.Halloween: H20
45.Deep Rising
46.The Negotiator
47.Face/Off
48.Black Hawk Down
49.Commando
50. Memento/Midnight Run (tie)

Honorable Mention-Con Air, Kiss Of The Dragon and Romeo Must Die & Rock Star.

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Your list is your Top 50 of all time, not of the year.

I've seen worst lists (I'm referring to the one you originally posted, not yours), and if you're going to critize theirs, I think we should be able to critize a list that has Joy Ride, Cool Runnings and Armageddon in the top ten. (Although you do have some great movies up there, too.)

PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 03:49 PM
Armageddon's in the top ten but the list isn't in order. I love them all for diferent reasons. Critique as much as you want.

ColinM
07-15-2002, 04:19 PM
I'm just saying that while Joy Ride is good, it isn't #1 material, and I haven't seen Cool Runnings, but I doubt it's #2 material. And Armageddon is a pretty good popcorn movie, but wouldn't be anywhere near my Top Ten.

But as you say it's out of order, so I dunno. Regardless, the list you originally posted isn't too terrible. I disagree with lots of the Bottom Ten of 2001, but agree with a lot too. And some of my favorites of that year (Moulin Rouge and Memento) are in their top ten, so...yeah.

PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 04:33 PM
Here's my Top Ten in order

1) One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
2) Spider-Man
3) Vanilla Sky
4) Sling Blade
5) Good Will Hunting
6) Rain Man
7) The Patriot
8) Rocky
9) Snatch
10) Joy Ride

ColinM
07-15-2002, 04:41 PM
Not bad. Anywho, I won't sway the thread off-topic any longer...

The Heart Collector
07-15-2002, 06:24 PM
Why did you number them if they're out of order?!?

PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 07:32 PM
So I could keep track of what number I was on.

Bobdroopy
07-15-2002, 08:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ColinM:
Your list is your Top 50 of all time, not of the year.
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OOOOO DISSS

ColinM
07-15-2002, 08:08 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bobdroopy:
OOOOO DISSS</font>

It wasn't a "dis". His list was his Top 50 of all time, but the list he originally posted (and declared the worst top ten list ever) was of the year 2001, that's all I meant. I think you misunderstood.

imagemaker
07-15-2002, 08:19 PM
I think PorcheRacer's top 50 is the worst I have ever seen!! thats my opinion though! And he is certainly entitled to his own. but to have bean:the movie, patch adams, deep blue sea, and deep rising on there...huh? Best of all time??? they arent all bad movies but of all time?




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PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 08:21 PM
LOL! Some of them are favorites. They are great in my eyes.

joelc
07-15-2002, 08:44 PM
don't want to be rude, but seeing your top 50, I assume you don't have the cinematographic culture to judge of anyone top 10 as being good or bad. 95% of your list are 90's 00's blockbusters... and the other 5% are memorable classics such as One Flew over the The Cuckoo's Nest, Rocky and the likes. I also tried to find this Leisure Suite website but couldn't. Why didn't you gave the adress, I would like to judge by myself why they chose those movies for worst and just how much they are machist.

PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 09:17 PM
http://www.leisuresuit.net/guymovievault/

PorcheRacer
07-15-2002, 09:29 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by joelc:
I assume you don't have the cinematographic culture </font>

OK, I have seen some of the movies you guys call classics. They're not my cup-o-tea. Here are the only movies I hate-

Zoolander - 3/10
Josie & The Pussy Cats - 3/10
Bones - 4/10
Rushmore - 4/10
Rollerball - 4/10
Friday The 13th 4/10
Porky’s 2: The Next Day - 4.5/10
Harry Potter & The Sorcerer’s Stone - 5/10
Friday The 13th: Part Two 5/10
Ocean’s Eleven – 5.5/10

Also, Alot of the movies on my list are not blockbusters and just because they make money means they're no good?

Memento
Black Hawk Down
Sling Blade
Rocky
Rocky II
Good Will Hunting
Vanilla Sky
Rain Man
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Snatch
Spider-Man
Jerry Maguire
Chasing Amy
Clerks
Patch Adams
Midnight Run
Total Recall
Heist
A Few Good Men
Joy Ride

So there is 20 quality movies out of 50. That's 40%. Not 5. 40%.

beastieben21
07-15-2002, 10:49 PM
You hate...Rushmore...? Ohhhhhhhh man! (Ben begins muttering in front of the computer as his skin turns green and clothes rip to shreds)

Horror whore
07-15-2002, 11:13 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mikey2Dope:
My thoughts exactly. And PorcheRacer you shouldn't make fun of other peoples lists when your Top 50 ain't that great either.
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That is one of the most hipocritical things I have ever laughed at.