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Erroneous 10-30-2012 10:08 PM

2016: Obama's America
 
2016: Obama's America

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I saw this movie last night. Here is my take:

The movie "2016: Obama's America" is a documentary based on Dinesh D'Souza's book, "The Roots of Obama's Rage."

Dinesh D'Souza was born in India in 1961, the same year Obama was born in Hawaii. D'Souza and Obama came to the United States at about the same time. There the similarities end. D'Souza went to work in the Reagan administration, while Obama fell in with revolutionaries.

Obama's father was born in Africa. In Kenya. He was black. He was a fierce anti-colonialist, hating the British. He was obsessed with the idea that white European empires had stolen resources from poor, black countries. Obama met his father only once but became heir to his father's world view. At one point he even sojourned to Kenya. D'Souza points out that Obama's book is titled, "Dreams FROM My Father," not "Dreams OF My Father." It is as if the senior Obama is orchestrating his son's behavior from the grave.

Although born in Hawaii (where there is still resentment about statehood) and later living there with his grandparents, Obama grew up in Indonesia, raised by his white mother and Indonesian stepfather. In Jakarta, Obama was exposed to more lingering hatred for white colonialism, the Dutch having ruled the "East Indies" for 3 centuries.

It was a natural thing for Obama, in college at Columbia and Harvard, to befriend Socialists and Communists. Obama had long since learned to hate America and everything America stands for. D'Souza shows that Obama's "founding fathers" are not Washington, Jefferson and Franklin, but radicals such as Martin Luther King and Jeremiah Wright. D'Souza notes that after becoming president, Obama returned a White House bust of Winston Churchill to England because he saw Churchill as a remnant of colonialism. D'Souza contends that once in power, Obama set out to make real his father's dreams. He set out to "remake America," to strip America of superpower status and reduce it to a third world nation. Furthermore, Obama purposely set out to destroy America's economy, cripple its military, and deplete its nuclear arsenal. D'Souza asks why white Americans would elect Obama to their highest office. Largely it was because they knew nothing about him, nothing about his hidden agendas. Also, there was the guilt factor, young whites wanting to compensate for perceived wrongs from centuries past. D'Souza ends his documentary by telling us that a second Obama term would spell disaster for the United States. He says the future is in our hands.

Mr Jim C's original thread that was closed in the movie section.

Erroneous 10-30-2012 10:13 PM

I have been home bound due to Sandy and I saw it at my local Red Box, so I rented it.

Honestly, as a movie it was not half bad. Played much better than most political docs. The content is leading to say the least, but I can understand based on his point of view how and where he draws conclusions. I can agree with several points, but not all. Especially the last 10 mins or so.


My question is this: Since I do not have time to do the research myself at this moment in time, can any of you folks provide links or facts that dispute any of the conclusions or points Dinesh D'Souza is making?

electriclite 10-30-2012 10:43 PM

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/correct...231728910.html

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...html?nopager=1

Moviefan2k4 02-27-2013 09:11 AM

I'd love to see this, because I've heard many unsettling (and even maddening) things about Obama.

magjournal 04-06-2013 08:33 AM

Sounds like propaganda but I might check it out for a good laugh.


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Erroneous 04-07-2013 08:14 PM

Based on what is happening in Obama's second term, it very well looks like this movie might be more correct than wrong. It really does appear like Obama wants to crash the system of America.

Scotch 04-09-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Erroneous (Post 3669762)
Based on what is happening in Obama's second term, it very well looks like this movie might be more correct than wrong. It really does appear like Obama wants to crash the system of America.

I have not seen the movie. And I'm not pen pals with President Obama. However, I would find it hard to believe that he is willingly trying the "crash" the system of America. The direction he has pointed our country in, some might disagree with and think it will have serious repercussions in the long run. Others believe that we are improving things for our future by enduring rough times in our current economy. That's not what I'm here to argue because that is an entirely different discussion.

But thinking that the leader of the free world is intentionally trying to destroy our country is.....well.....I'll leave that for the conspiracists to spend their time worrying about while I enjoy my freedoms.

Scarface98.9 04-09-2013 05:55 PM

Did they leave in the part where Obama is blamed for 9/11 and covered up the moon landing?

magjournal 04-15-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarface98.9 (Post 3670275)
Did they leave in the part where Obama is blamed for 9/11 and covered up the moon landing?

It's right after the bit where they accused him of murdering John F. Kennedy and firing at Ronald Reagan.

Gordon 04-15-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by magjournal (Post 3671595)
It's right after the bit where they accused him of murdering John F. Kennedy and firing at Ronald Reagan.

Well to be fair he dropped so much acid in that Muslim abortion clinic right before doing those things that I hardly think we can blame him.

creekin111 04-15-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by magjournal (Post 3669307)
Sounds like propaganda but I might check it out for a good laugh.


Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.

Mag I love ya :) but come on man...

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Originally Posted by magjournal (Post 3664053)
It's going a little too far but I'm sure Moore has the best intentions.

How can you say Michael Moore has the best intentions and say here its propaganda? You don't think the filmmaker has the best intentions here as well? You don't think Michael Moore is full of propaganda as well?

PSU80 11-04-2013 04:41 AM

Michael Moore's entire existence is propaganda.

And to say Barack Obama is anything more than incompetent on a great day and down right dangerous for this country on a bad day is irresponsible and unrealistic.

Scotch 11-14-2013 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PSU80 (Post 3715919)
Michael Moore's entire existence is propaganda.

And to say Barack Obama is anything more than incompetent on a great day and down right dangerous for this country on a bad day is irresponsible and unrealistic.

We call that an "opinion"

creekin111 11-14-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotch (Post 3717623)
We call that an "opinion"

That's deep.

http://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c


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