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Old 07-25-2012, 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Mr.HyDe807 View Post
Cop No. 366:

I enjoyed the movie on my second viewing, but I think Nolan severely took advantages of the minor plot holes that were prevalent, but not as bad in TDK. Sure, things seemed way too convenient in regards to Joker's archaic scheme, but it seemed like that "go with the flow" plot mechanics were pushed a bit further in TDKR. Since Harvey's story line in TDK worked so well in one movie, he decides to throw in other minor characters in hopes that there's enough time to create full fledge story lines in the conclusion.

Unfortunately, it just didn't work that way for this film. It makes those plot holes that were minor in TDK feel much more major in this installment. I think some viewers are cool with that (like me on some level), but other film goers (like Cop No. 366) just aren't gonna be up for that type of "go with it" storytelling.
I'm not sure if plot hole is the right word because I never really called the movie out for plot holes, but that I think Nolan didn't take advantage of the situation he created for the film. I don't mind plot holes if the story is really good. There was a lot of dramatic potential in this film, but the stakes just weren't there for me. I never felt as if anybody was in harm's way in TDKR. Not Batman, not Gordon, not John Blake, Catwoman... at least in TDK, it felt as if people could die at any moment. Killing off Rachel and having the Joker threaten Gotham's citizens directly elevated the stakes in that film giving it more suspense. You need to have high stakes in a film like this and for me, the nuke was a terrible way to convey that feeling simply because you know that it was never going to destroy Gotham. It's a MacGuffin in the worst sense of the word. At least with Batman Begins, Nolan was more clever for making that MacGuffin tie in with the Scarecrow's fear toxin. And we saw how it was affecting Gotham. Everyone was losing their minds on the drug. That rose the stakes in the climax. In TDKR, it was simply a nuke. He didn't go that extra step, which I was used to from the other Batman films he made.

It also reminds me of a great line from the Joker in the Dark Knight which explains my disappointment with this film: You didn’t think I’d risk the battle for Gotham’s soul in a fistfight with you? And that is essentially what the ending of TDKR film was. It was a giant fist fight over Gotham. Between Bane and Batman. Between the cops and the terrorists/inmates.
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