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Old 10-04-2012, 03:57 AM
Originally Posted by Erroneous View Post
So is the fact the Dickey plays in a pitcher's ballpark.

inside the numbers
RA Dickey
Home 10-3 Away 10-3
ERA 2.59 H 2.81 a
GS 17 h 15a
Opp B Ave .211 h .241 a
H 94 h 91a
ER 36 h 32a

Gio G
9-4 h 12-4 a
ERA 2.38h 3.31a
GS 14 h 18a
opp b ave .202h .208a
h 67h 82a
er 24 h 40a

What does it mean?
For Gio: He has more games started and won on the road and a lower ERA at home, he has a lower opp batting ave for both home and away and gives up less hits, earned runs at home.

For Dickey: He has a lower ERA on the road, started more at home, and has given up less Earned runs on the road.

Plus for Gio, his games mean more, because they are in first place. The Mets have been a joke since the all star break. I do not believe wins are a miss leading stat. There are times when it can be, but in the real world across every industry stats do not lie. This is not the case like Felix a couple years ago when he was losing games 1-0.

They both have about the same wins against playoff teams and last place teams.
It means more? So an individual award should depend upon a teams success? An individual award is not a team award. The final #s are the final #s. If Gio didn't pitch as well as Dickey then that shows he was folding under pressure in a bigger stage then when it counted. Its not Dickey's fault the Mets were terrible in the 2nd half. There's no way you can prove that Dickey would pitch any worse if he was pitching on the Nats. I could say he would have pitched better and there is no way you can prove otherwise. Ever heard of thriving under pressure? Yes that happens too. These awards should be separated from the teams success as much as possible. Again this is not the Cy Young award for playoff contenders only. No way Gio should be voted over Dickey or Kershaw or Cueto.
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