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Old 05-13-2009, 05:34 PM
Jack White: Most Talented Musician Working Today?


I Know, of all the pics i could use this one? Hey! Screw YOU!

Been listening to a lot of his stuff (including all 57 bands he's in) again lately, and just wonder what you guys think? Is he the most talented musician in the biz today? You got the White Stripes, which are probably the most creative (and IMO best) project he is involved in where he explores many different styles, from the indie roots of the first few, notably Elephant and White Blood Cells, to the more piano based (and even a marimba!) sounds of Get Behind Me Satan, to the many sounds of Icky Thump (you got the classic white stripes sound, a couple bagpipe based songs with Jack on the mandolin, some acoustic work, and many other styles I don't know how to describe, but you know if you have heard it. Then you have the Raconteurs, which have more of a Southern influence, and while Jack White is more backseat in this band to Brendan Benson, his influence is still very noticeable, a couple favorites of mine are "Old Enough" and "The Switch and the Spur". Now you got Dead Weather, which sounds promising from the first couple singles. I also loved (I know a lot of people hated) his song for the Bond with Alicia Keys "Another Way To Die!" he played almost every instrument (outside of the horns) on this. He also has done some of the scores for Cold Mountain and I believe a couple other movies, which I haven't seen to comment, so I will let you tell me. So let me ask you, where do you think he ranks among todays musicians?
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:22 PM
Ball and Biscuit is one of the best songs I have ever heard. ever. a 7 minute jam fest. with some...really good guitar playing.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:44 PM
Jack White is a god and one of my favorite musicians.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:55 PM
He certainly is very talented. My love affair with The White Stripes came to an end, but we're still on speaking terms and I visit them in the holidays.

However, his side-projects still get a spin on the ol' ipod at least once a day. Today just happened to be Broken Boy Soldier.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:37 PM
My love for all of Jack's projects is well documented. I think he's pretty brilliant and I love the various sounds he goes for. Broken Boy Soldiers is a great great album and his best since White Blood Cells.

I think he will be remembered as something very special although he already has the respect and admiration from a big swath of musicians.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:43 PM
He's a fucking great guitarist, that's for sure. But, even though Elephant might be the best album I've heard of this decade, "the best musician working today" might be pushing it. I'd be more likely to side with Thom Yorke or Jonny Greenwood, even though Radiohead's been around for years. And once I've heard more of their stuff, the guys from Animal Collective may join those ranks.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I personally think he hit his peak as a songwriter with White Blood Cells. I haven't wanted to revisit the albums past that after I heard them a couple of times. I thought Icky Thump was boring and offering nothing new. It was White on autopilot. Get Behind Me Satan was listenable, but I'd be lying if I said I wanted to hear any of the songs again. I found a few a chore to sit through like Red Rain. I really think the Stripes have spent all of White's creative energy.

He's a good musician though. I think he's showed what he can do as a guitarist, which is mainly blues influenced. But I can dig it. He's a serviceable drummer, which is always cool.

I never cared for his side project. I just found them to be boring pop. And from what I heard of the Dead Weather, I'd say they're DOA for me. I'm not really interested.

So overall, I think White is a very good musician, good songwriter, and so-so singer. I wouldn't say he's the most talented. He is definitely a hard working guy, and I appreciate that. I just wish I could enjoy his output more than I do.

I'd say Nick Cave is my personal choice in terms of the most talented of the singer/songwriters. He has written a film, made his own music with the Bad Seeds (and Grinderman), scored two films, and he's written a novel. The guy's supremely talented at singing, at lyric writing, and even gets down great on the piano. Then again, he's 51, so he's had much more experience over Jack White. But I'll take Nick Cave's best songs over anything the Stripes have put out their entire career.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:14 PM
I'd cast my vote for Matthew Friedberger. He writes all the music and plays all the instruments (except drums) on The Fiery Furnaces' albums as well as his solo material, and is just overall an incredible songwriter. He's also incredibly prolific (seriously, I'm pretty sure the guy sweats music), without having the rapid pace of writing and recording diminish either his ideas or the quality of his output.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:16 AM
MIKE PATTON
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:58 AM
This guy...

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Old 05-14-2009, 03:27 PM
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MIKE PATTON
You win the grand prize!!!!

Wait, I did post "Who is the biggest douchebag in music", right?
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:48 PM
I love Jack White's guitar playing, but I fucking hate his singing. It's why I can't stand The White Stripes. Awesome music, awful vocals.
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:15 PM
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You win the grand prize!!!!

Wait, I did post "Who is the biggest douchebag in music", right?
Have you met him?
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:44 PM
I think it's important to note that 'talent' and 'quality' do not go hand-in-hand. Rush may be talented musicians, but their music is mostly unlistenable, wanky crap that lacks direction and immediacy. 'Wanky' and 'unlistenable' are not what I'd describe the music Jack White makes, but even though he's clearly a talented musician, he lacks originality - a lot of people have noted that the music of The White Stripes sounds like it was made in the 1970s, and that's the problem I have here; I don't want to listen to music that sounds like it was made in the 70s, I want to listen to music that reminds me that music itself is progressing.

And while we're on the subject of talent, I can think of many musicians working today that are arguably more talented (and even better) than Jack White. Among them: Arve Henriksen, Richard D. James, Keith Fullerton Whitman, Tim Hecker, Susumu Yokota, James Blackshaw, Merzbow, C. Spencer Yeh, etc.
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Old 05-17-2009, 10:16 AM
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Have you met him?
That matters why?

Oh wait, it doesn't.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:32 PM
Jack White is talented indeed!
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:57 PM
In advance of Mr. White's forthcoming solo debut I decided to dive back into his back catalogue whether it be with The White Stripes, The Raconteurs or The Dead Weather. I'm diving in and i'm diving deep. Full immersion is my mission and I must admit i'm throroughly enjoying re-introducing myself to the various sounds of Mr. White. Right now i'm mainlining Elephant. First listen in about five years and it's like bumping into an old friend and realising how much you miss him/her. Bring on the solo album. I personally can't wait.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:50 PM
I'm doing the same thing, because of the Bump! in this Thread, Psychocandy. I've always been a fan of his music, but have never fully immersed myself in his material. I'm going through the entire White Stripes discography for starters...
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:24 PM
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I'm doing the same thing, because of the Bump! in this Thread, Psychocandy. I've always been a fan of his music, but have never fully immersed myself in his material. I'm going through the entire White Stripes discography for starters...
After Elephant I listened to Icky Thump right through. It's way better than I remembered and I remember liking it quite a bit.
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