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View Poll Results: Do you hate George Lucas?
Yes. 4 20.00%
No. 8 40.00%
I'm indifferent towards him. 8 40.00%
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:59 PM
Why do people hate George Lucas?

I'm confused as to why people hate George Lucas so much. Yeah, he made the prequel trilogy (only one film of which was truly terrible), but it seems like all of his detractors are oblivious to the huge impact he's had on the industry.

First off, he made THX 1138 and American Graffiti, the latter of which was nominated for five Academy Awards. Then of course he directed the incredibly influential Star Wars and also was the creator of the Indiana Jones.

Even with Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace he left his mark on film history. That film was the first mainstream motion picture to be projected in the digital format. He was a leading advocate for digital filmmaking, so without him, the independent filmmaking movement such as the one originating out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, would be considerably smaller. This is of course due to the fact that digital filmmaking is a lot cheaper and easier to manage than celluloid filmmaking; therefore more filmmakers could have their ideas come to fruition.

I think whether or not people like the prequels, it's foolish to deny how much of a visionary George Lucas is and it's ignorant to even deny the fact that he's one of cinema's most important pioneers.

So why do people hate him so much? Is it really the fact that he's made some poor decisions regarding Star Wars, or am I missing something?
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:38 PM
I'll always love Lucas for giving us American Graffiti. I recognize his influence, but Star Wars means little to me. I may end up rewatching the original trilogy some day, but it's not something I'm passionate about doing.

While I don't hate him, I'm certainly more indifferent to him.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:44 PM
I don't hate him. I don't hate the prequel trilogy as much as the rest of the world, they just don't come close to the original trilogy. But the fact that he is responsible for the awesomeness that is Star Wars, I can't help but admire what he did. American Graffiti is another underrated classic that he wrote and directed that he should be hailed for.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:02 PM
Hate is such a strong word for someone you've never met before in your life, and for someone who's done nothing bad to you or yours personally.

But I chose hate, and here's why.

The guy rapes the values of cinema. And cinema is something that I love (obviously). He's made THX-113, awesome and underrated sci fi film, he's made American Graffiti, a heart felt high school movie which influenced countless others like it, and he's created Star Wars which is like, one of the biggest influences in cinema EVER and has created a legion of fans, people who would probably sell their kids to the black market before getting rid of their precious autographed comic con statues or whatever.

And what else has he done?

NOTHING.

The guy's been milking the Star Wars cow for the past 30 years, making a stop to taint the Indiana Jones franchise forever with the atrocity that was Indy IV, and he's just been devising ways of getting people's money by using the Star Wars and Indiana Jones brands. That's not cinema, that's manipulation and complete abuse and he sucks for that.

If any Hollywood "celebrity" needs to be roasted on Comedy Central, it's this guy.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:09 PM
The short answer: he's an asshole.
A slighter less-short answer: He's a greedy asshole.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:14 PM
I have no idea. If you don't like his last three films, it's understandable not to be a fan of him as a director, but the man is important to cinema regardless of the quality of the Star Wars prequels.

Without him, there would be no CGI in films. He was the guy who is responsible for CGI becoming a mainstay in film.

Without him, digital cameras would be nowhere near as sharp and advanced as they are now. He pushed the development of high definition cameras more than anybody else in the film industry.

And without him, there would be no Pixar. LucasFilm is where Pixar was conceived.

I don't know about you, but that makes him A-Okay in my book.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cop No. 633 View Post
I have no idea. If you don't like his last three films, it's understandable not to be a fan of him as a director, but the man is important to cinema regardless of the quality of the Star Wars prequels.

Without him, there would be no CGI in films. He was the guy who is responsible for CGI becoming a mainstay in film.

Without him, digital cameras would be nowhere near as sharp and advanced as they are now. He pushed the development of high definition cameras more than anybody else in the film industry.

And without him, there would be no Pixar. LucasFilm is where Pixar was conceived.

I don't know about you, but that makes him A-Okay in my book.
100% this.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cop No. 633 View Post
I have no idea. If you don't like his last three films, it's understandable not to be a fan of him as a director, but the man is important to cinema regardless of the quality of the Star Wars prequels.

Without him, there would be no CGI in films. He was the guy who is responsible for CGI becoming a mainstay in film.

Without him, digital cameras would be nowhere near as sharp and advanced as they are now. He pushed the development of high definition cameras more than anybody else in the film industry.

And without him, there would be no Pixar. LucasFilm is where Pixar was conceived.

I don't know about you, but that makes him A-Okay in my book.
You are mostly correct, but he is not Steve Jobs. Lucas has received much of the credit for the last dozen or so years of those things you mentioned, but he hardly the only person thinking these ideas up and excuting them. I thank him for all he has done for cinema. And then there is the money.....

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Hate is such a strong word for someone you've never met before in your life, and for someone who's done nothing bad to you or yours personally.

But I chose hate, and here's why.

The guy rapes the values of cinema. And cinema is something that I love (obviously). He's made THX-113, awesome and underrated sci fi film, he's made American Graffiti, a heart felt high school movie which influenced countless others like it, and he's created Star Wars which is like, one of the biggest influences in cinema EVER and has created a legion of fans, people who would probably sell their kids to the black market before getting rid of their precious autographed comic con statues or whatever.

And what else has he done?

NOTHING.

The guy's been milking the Star Wars cow for the past 30 years, making a stop to taint the Indiana Jones franchise forever with the atrocity that was Indy IV, and he's just been devising ways of getting people's money by using the Star Wars and Indiana Jones brands. That's not cinema, that's manipulation and complete abuse and he sucks for that.

If any Hollywood "celebrity" needs to be roasted on Comedy Central, it's this guy.
100% this..... well 95% I am not going to kill him of Indy 4, but it was made just for money.

What really pisses me off the most is he lies. Some new technology comes out and he says, "this is what I really wanted to do back then, but it was not out yet." Bull fucking shit. He never thought of a 3D Star Wars or he would have come out with 3D Star Wars years ago. He sees it as another reason to come out in the theaters and make more money. That is it. Normally, I am all for it, but fuck him. He is staging his DVD, Blu Ray, VHS, special edition, new version, old versions on purpose, because he knows there are fans who will buy both. He is an asshole and abusing fans. If he really cared about the fans, he would come out with NEW FUCKING STAR WARS MOVIES!!!!!!! That is what we all want.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:45 PM
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You are mostly correct, but he is not Steve Jobs. Lucas has received much of the credit for the last dozen or so years of those things you mentioned, but he hardly the only person thinking these ideas up and excuting them. I thank him for all he has done for cinema. And then there is the money.....
Again, you're completely ignoring what he did for film technology and the independent film movement. He should be commended and hailed as an icon but instead he's hated for making a couple of bad movies and making some poor choices with his characters. And I love how when he does something good, he's just taking credit for others, but when he does something bad, the blame must fall entirely on him.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:59 PM
Indifferent.

Don't love him. Don't hate him. Dont' watch his movies. I've never been a Star Wars fan.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:22 PM
As the other posts have said, the man has made a sizable contribution to film history. Digital cameras, CGI, Pixar, Star Wars, etc. So you have to give him credit for that.

I will say that Lucas can't write dialogue to save his life, so I don't think I'll be missing much if he makes another movie or not. I like Star Wars, but I'm not an obsessive fan or anything, so whether or not he makes more of those doesn't matter to me.

And I actually liked the last Indy movie. "Shia swinging from vines with monkeys" was not a good enough reason for me to flat-out hate it.

Plus, there's the LucasArts games, which are all pretty awesome. As a kid I spent hours playing Fate of Atlantis.

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Old 09-04-2012, 05:28 PM
Obi-Wan: "Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!"

Anakin: "FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE JEDI ARE EVIL!"



That's why.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:55 PM
Bourne, majournal: I really don't know much about Lucas' contributions to technology, what he actually invented/created, what his resources were used for and whether without him we'd have Pixar or not so I respectfully withdraw from this thread. Thank you for shining some new light on this man whom I've only ever seen as the guy who likes taking people's money by milking his brands.

I'll check that doc out Bourne, from a film critic/aesthetic point of view I prefer film over digital by a country mile, but I know that digital has helped young filmmakers a TON (and will hopefully help me one day in that same fashion) so I definitely wasn't talking about it from that angle.

I leave you guys with this, the awesome Carrie Fisher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ97s396kb0
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:04 PM
Funny Bourne101 should mention Side By Side, because watching that movie is what sparked this thread up in the first place. I used to dislike George Lucas as well, but the documentary makes it clear what kind of impact he had on the film industry.

I also recommend it. It's one of two films this year I've given 4 stars to (the other being Beasts of the Southern Wild) and it's one of my favorite films of the year.
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