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Old 05-20-2003, 06:53 PM
***MODERATOR NOTE: CLOSED THREADS, EVERYONE READ***

Lately (and for awhile now really) there have been a great many threads that are very popular in this forum but lack any substance or "game" whatsoever. The idea behind this forum was for schmoe folk to be able to play games generally based on movie trivia, NOT enormous threads without purpose where the object is naming a movie that starts with the next letter of the alphabet, two movies that the same actor was in, and so on... I discussed this with Big Man (JoBlo) and he agreed that what seems to be going on right now is that most of these "games" are not games at all, but exercises in upping post counts for the participating schmoes. Since posts without substance are frowned upon, these threads will be closed and further such threads discouraged.

I implore you schmoes, please post threads that really are games, something more challening and fun to play, there are plenty of ideas out there and I know you all can come up with something better to have fun with. Thanks for understanding and cooperating.

~Q

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Old 05-20-2003, 07:13 PM
Hate to disagree with you or with JoBlo, Quentin, but I really don't see what the big deal is, and I certainly don't see the need to close the games. Some of the games you've already closed have been around for years and years, and there's been no complaint about them until now. And I've never looked at the games section as an opprotunity to "up" my post count, and if I haven't (since my post count is pretty big) I imagine most of the others Schmoes haven't either. The game thread just gives Schmoes an opprotunity to relax and unwind. I know that personally I've always had a lot of fun playing these games, and I'm pretty bitterly disappointed to see them go.

I suppose I can see why you're saying that these are "posts without substance" and therefore you want to close them, but really, if we limited ourselves to simply trivia-related games, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of substance there. So what's the point of having a games section at all, by that logic?

I know in the past you've expressed distaste for the games section, Quentin (I never really understood why you were it's moderator, then), but think maybe you're taking it a little too seriously and I don't think it's fair to the rest of us to close it.
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Old 05-20-2003, 07:30 PM
I understand why you closed some of the threads, and I hate to be a troublemaker, but I don't quite understand why the likes of the True/False game or especially the "What If..." creative game were shut down. It seems like both were fairly interesting original games...and while the T/F game could be answered with one word (though often people elaborated), usally compelling questions were chose for the next round.

The what if... game always seemed like an original one to me.

Maybe I just don't understand what the games forum is, in essence, about...but these two games really don't seem to me, to be a waste of space or time, or a way to up point counts. Especially the ones that involve thought.

Annie Hall, out

PS. No harm meant, at all, and I'm in complete agreement that it'd be great to see more games of substance about here. But, I'm just a tad confused.

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Old 05-20-2003, 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by ColinM
Hate to disagree with you or with JoBlo, Quentin, but I really don't see what the big deal is, and I certainly don't see the need to close the games. Some of the games you've already closed have been around for years and years, and there's been no complaint about them until now. And I've never looked at the games section as an opprotunity to "up" my post count, and if I haven't (since my post count is pretty big) I imagine most of the others Schmoes haven't either. The game thread just gives Schmoes an opprotunity to relax and unwind. I know that personally I've always had a lot of fun playing these games, and I'm pretty bitterly disappointed to see them go.


Well, the point of this forum existing in the first place was for real MOVIE GUESSING GAMES to be played, which is not going on. One of the Rules of The Board states that one should "Always respond with more than just two words ". The occasional instance of this is fine and tolerable, but a thread with 8000 posts in it that is solely comprised of such? Not okay. Also among the rules you'll find "Basically, post with some weight behind it". Now obviously this is a forum for GAMES, so I don't expect all posts to be long well-thought out discussions, but participating should require more than a knowledge of the alphabet. Yes, the games have been around a long time, but you're wrong about the complaints. The recent messages I've received from schmoes who no longer visit this forum because it has "gone to hell in a handbasket" or complain that the threads that really are games get quickly pushed down to the bottom of the page by pointless non-game behemoths are the reason I really went through each of these threads and brought their non-game nature to JoBlo. I don't know how you've seen the forum, but a quick search shows that 7752 of your posts (or a bit over 1/2) were posted in this forum, many of which were in the forums now being closed, so I can understand your desire, and I'm sure many of the schmoes here would agree with you, but we (that being Jo and I) really just think these posts "suck" more or less, and I'd rather turn the forum around that see it turn into something like the Misc Non-Movie Talk. Also I think people can also "unwind" in threads that are fun GAMES that involve thought, trivia, even the simplest of true MGG's. Besides, I don't see the boards as a particularily stressful environment (and don't understand why one would stay around if they found them so) so I'm not sure how they are for unwinding purposes than the rest of the board.


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Originally posted by ColinM I suppose I can see why you're saying that these are "posts without substance" and therefore you want to close them, but really, if we limited ourselves to simply trivia-related games, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of substance there. So what's the point of having a games section at all, by that logic?


Well, we feel there is a point to this forum if the threads are about Movie Guessing Games. I'm all for the real games, in fact I love them, the reason this thread was started was because of all the trivia games originally posted in the old Movie Questions forum, most of them started by me, were becoming popular enough to warrant their own forum.

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Originally posted by ColinM I know in the past you've expressed distaste for the games section, Quentin (I never really understood why you were it's moderator, then), but think maybe you're taking it a little too seriously and I don't think it's fair to the rest of us to close it.
Well I certainly don't have a distaste for this forum, otherwise I would simply resign as it's moderator. Jo would really be the person to answer the question of why, but I believe I was chosen to head this forum because of my love, knowledge, and principal participation in Movie Trivia threads. I'm eager to see others participate in the games of this forum, and to participate myself, I love movie trivia and enjoy playing the games very much. I don't really see this action as too serious, we are pretty simply adhering to the Rules of The Board and the idea that threads should have substance. I think anyone who joined these boards having and read and agreed to such rules should find that fair enough.

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Old 05-20-2003, 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Annie Hall
I understand why you closed some of the threads, and I hate to be a troublemaker, but I don't quite understand why the likes of the True/False game or especially the "What If..." creative game were shut down. It seems like both were fairly interesting original games...and while the T/F game could be answered with one word (though often people elaborated), usally compelling questions were chose for the next round.

The what if... game always seemed like an original one to me.

Maybe I just don't understand what the games forum is, in essence, about...but these two games really don't seem to me, to be a waste of space or time, or a way to up point counts. Especially the ones that involve thought.

Annie Hall, out

The basic problem with the true/false thread is that it is asking schmoes opinions, not really a game idea. The fact is, I think it may be better suited to the General Movie Talk forum, but there of course the title of "game" in the header may throw some off. Perhaps what I'll do in that case is contact The Shadow, ask if he would mind if I removed the word "game" from the title and simply moved, rather than closed, the thread. The "What if..." game is creative enough, but it does again ask for schmoes opinions and isn't so much a GAME per se, though there is enough of that element to it and it requires enough on the part of posters to be passable, I happen to like the idea and find many of the resposes funny also.

Right now I'm having to go through each thread and try to look them over, but reading through them is sometimes a task (with upwards of 3000 short posts in many), and may at first glance close one that has more depth or game to it than I recognized. If any other schmoes have a problem with a specific thread I closed, feel free to e-mail me or say so here. I'm leaving this thread open to hear your thoughts.
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:17 PM
I tend to agree with Quentin on this...

The rules are a very important thing at JoBlo. We should all know this. If one little thing is passed over and let go, then it will grow bigger and bigger until we have a problem that is too much to handle, much like the ill-fated Misc. Forum or any thread that has gotten way out of hand. Schmoes are banned, posts are deleted, JoBlo gets pissed, mods lose their jobs... it's happened many times before.


The forum is still here, nothing is going anywhere, so the schmoes who enjoy playing the fames really shouldn't be that worried. Look around, look at all the different threads that follow the general rules... there are LOTS and LOTS of them and could potentially be more. Use your brains, think of different games, start another trend, it's not that hard.

Anyway, these are the rules... not Quentin's, not the Canada govt's, not the internet's... they're the rules that were set up by our very own JoBlo. As I said, he set up this forum, and specially those rules for a reason, a very simple one in fact. This forum could easily become very personal in a quick amount of time, I'm surprised it hasnt... and if there is one thing we don't need on JoBlo, is another excuse to give schmoes the oppurtunity to get into fights, start grudges, feel they can go against the rules and so on...

Again, I agree with Quentin in his decision... actually, I agree with the rules that were set forth by the founder of this very site...
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:20 PM
Yeah it does seem like some of these threads do tend to get a little outta hand! I agree with Quentin also!We should have movie games that make us think and that are fun at the same time, we shouldn't become sloppy on the threads but neat and more efficient!

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Old 05-20-2003, 08:26 PM
i agree with both sides to a certain extent...I think that these games were just for fun and to relax, and this is what i used them for (though i didn't take part that much in the letter games etc), and i'm sad to see them stop...

on the other hand, i can see quentin's point here...i was admittedly getting bored of the abcde etc games, and they're not really "games" per say...(i think it wasn't too long ago i remember there were like, 5 abcde threads before they organized everything)...

but at least this will force us to think up better and more challenging games to play here, which is definitely a good thing...
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:29 PM
Well, you'll get no further argument from me. As has been said, I certainly don't want to start any arguments. Let me rephrase myself in one place so I don't look like a total idiot.

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Besides, I don't see the boards as a particularily stressful environment (and don't understand why one would stay around if they found them so) so I'm not sure how they are for unwinding purposes than the rest of the board.
Certainly didn't mean the boards, just life. Also, I'm totally aware of the rules (I do a bit of moderating myself...) but never thought it was really an issue when it came to games such as Antonio's LET'S PLAY A NEW GAME since it had been around for so many years without being shut down or even complained about...

OK, that's it, I'm done.

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Old 05-20-2003, 11:20 PM
Man, I disagree. I like playing all types of games on this site, and these are included. This is a bit disappointing.
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Old 05-21-2003, 01:50 AM
i have to agree that there were a few games that were nothing mores than lists,ie the one word story game, and they became very boring very quickly to me,and caused a lot of the more inteligent games to drop off the page quite a lot,so i think a bit of a clean up was needed.
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Old 05-21-2003, 02:59 AM
well, i dont really mind. i did have a phase of playing those sort of games, but i got bored of them pretty quickly. so umm, i wont really miss them to be honest...

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Old 05-21-2003, 03:12 AM
I think you may have tossed out the baby with the bathwater, but that's your call.
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Old 05-21-2003, 03:49 AM
I hardly ever visit this forum. Most threads are just stuff you could find by doing a quick search on Google.com or IMDB.com .. what's the fun in that? I despise more the various tournaments .. ugh .. they really head nowhere. Games like "20 questions" and "Hangman" or any movie trivia are much better because they require knowledge about films and searching online isn't enough most of the time.
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Old 05-21-2003, 04:29 AM
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i have to agree that there were a few games that were nothing mores than lists,ie the one word story game, and they became very boring very quickly to me,and caused a lot of the more inteligent games to drop off the page quite a lot,so i think a bit of a clean up was needed.
Spot-on Calf...

No offence folks, but it's a shitty state of affairs when a fab' new game like The movie piccy association game is completely ignored in favour of yet another tedious alphabet-orientated "puzzler".

I can't claim to have NEVER participated in these game threads...because I have. I won't deny it...but I'll ask you to put it down to boredom if you will.

I'm all for this CLEAN-UP malarkey...and I just hope that the more challenging games will make a bit of a comeback now!!!
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Old 05-21-2003, 12:13 PM
I don't know. I don't come to this forum often (I find it a bit boring) but if schmoes want to play those "easy" games, what does it hurt?
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Old 05-21-2003, 01:42 PM
Thanks alot...

For me it's NEVER been a case about "upping my postcount" or participating in mindless drivel centered around the alphabet, or connecting this to that or what the hell ever. I quite enjoyed the monotony and unchallenging nature of those threads. What are we here to do? Talk about movies. Hate that they took up the space while they did, for all their boring and sucky, disagreeable, can't-be-a-serious-schmoe for playing law.
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Old 05-21-2003, 05:01 PM
So that's why I lost over 200 posts! I hate to say this, but I disagree with QUENTIN. Those games were actually very fun, and I'm going to miss them. Even if they were not trivia based, they were still fun to play. Oh well, you're the moderator, and you make the decisions of this forum, so I'm not going to get in your way.

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Old 05-22-2003, 03:26 PM
i actually just think we should take off the post-counter that appears under our names, seriously....people get way too caught up in their post count
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:40 PM
Can someone please explain to me why 'The title game' was closed but 'The PORN title game' is allowed to remain open?

I mean if we're going by which threads have substance, that one is seriously lacking as well.

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Old 05-24-2003, 09:23 AM
Although I enjoyed participating in the games that were closed, I completely understand why they had to be closed. However, what I don't understand is how those can be closed, but the porn title game and threads like "Which Celeb do you jerk off to" can stay open. Why?
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Old 05-25-2003, 01:25 PM
Although I did enjoy the "Actor Tag" game, I'm behind Quentin's decision. Shame to lose those posts, though.
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Old 06-30-2003, 12:38 PM
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i actually just think we should take off the post-counter that appears under our names, seriously....people get way too caught up in their post count
I agree with RicochetShaw on this one. A couple of other Message Boards I have frequented in the past have post-counters, and in the end you wind up with folks posting only one or two word answers in every single forum and thread, just to get the coveted title of "God" or "Super High Lama Lama" (eg's).

Atlhough, having said that, I realy dont see those kinds of posts here very often. JoBlo seems to have a more intellegent group of posters than the average message board

Maybe I'll just shut up now

or not!
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Old 06-30-2003, 12:39 PM
i want to be a super high llama or whatever it was

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Old 06-30-2003, 01:12 PM
quoth_the_raven, I hearby dub thee Super High Lama Lama of Joblo.com.

Use your new postion and powers in a responsible manner, and always keep in mind the little people who got you where you are today.

Congratulations!
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Old 06-30-2003, 01:18 PM
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Use your new postion and powers in a responsible manner

you dont know me too well, do you?
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:23 PM
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JoBlo seems to have a more intellegent group of posters than the average message board
Yeah, we're smart as fuck.
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Old 07-03-2003, 11:26 PM
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Yeah, we're smart as fuck.
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Old 07-07-2003, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by QUENTIN
I don't really see this action as too serious, we are pretty simply adhering to the Rules of The Board and the idea that threads should have substance. I think anyone who joined these boards having and read and agreed to such rules should find that fair enough.
I agree, it ARE the rules, you KNOW it are the rules, so stop bitching about it.
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:23 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why 'The title game' was closed but 'The PORN title game' is allowed to remain open?

I mean if we're going by which threads have substance, that one is seriously lacking as well.
Well, they're different. The "title" game was just mentioning movies with the alphabet. The "porn title" game was translating the name of a film into a porn title, and then posting the next movie so the next person could convert it into a "porn" title. So it includes some creativity, and it's not only a boring list of movies. I know it cause i created it

As well as the "What if.. " game and the "hangman". I think all those had enough substance to become entertaining and are movie-related.

I also started a "trivia-goof" game, which consisted in naming a movie so the next person says a trivia fact of it or a goof, then posting the next movie. But it was savagely ignored... I think there were just 5 posts or so, and half of them were mine...
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Old 10-03-2003, 03:08 AM
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So it includes some creativity, and it's not only a boring list of movies. I know it cause i created it
I agree. The "porn title..." wasn't just a list. It grew old pretty fast and wasn't always that funny but it was somewhat creative.
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Old 07-11-2004, 11:03 AM

You didnt get rid of the funny movie quote game did you, where you found funny pics from films and gave them funny captions? That game ruled and i just found it. is it somewhere else?

-never mind, found it in another forum....

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Old 01-25-2005, 12:10 PM
Ok, what really bugs me is the most pointless thread, which can be found under the general section: What movie did everyone watch today? With 30,378 posts, what's really the point? Being the movie lovers we are, of course we are going to watch a movie or two everyday, why do we need to announce it to everyone without being anymore productive than giving it a rating? Just seems a waste of space to me.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Xanadublue
Ok, what really bugs me is the most pointless thread, which can be found under the general section: What movie did everyone watch today? With 30,378 posts, what's really the point? Being the movie lovers we are, of course we are going to watch a movie or two everyday, why do we need to announce it to everyone without being anymore productive than giving it a rating? Just seems a waste of space to me.
It's a great post because you can refer to it if you would like to rent or blind buy something. You can usually get some good recommendations just scrolling through a page in that topic.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:29 PM
The "What's Quentin Tarantino doing?" thread was not a movie guessing game, therefore it is closed.
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Old 06-13-2006, 12:02 PM
I think some of these games are fun, espacially the what movie do you think of game. big F-ing deal if it lacks "substance", it's entertaining and that's the only reason I even post anything in any thread... it's entertaining to me.
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:52 PM
I stopped visiting this forum a while ago - most of the threads are poor excuses for games that go nowhere. "Ooooh, I can think of a movie that begins with a letter that ended another movie!! WOO HOO!!!"

The caption games are pretty cool, since you're actually trying to "win" the right to post the next picture.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:55 AM
schmoes shouldn`t fear the joblo ,the joblo should fear the schmoes.

dam the man
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:34 AM
I agree. The post/forum should have a purpose.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:31 PM
I don't quite follow how to play this game
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