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Old 05-23-2009, 07:10 AM
Official SKYFALL (James Bond) thread (November 9, 2012)

Work Begins On Bond 23



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James Bond producer Michael G. Wilson has given the first indication that work is underway on the 23rd adventure in the series. At the Ivor Novello Awards held at Grosvenor House hotel in London tonight, Wilson told The Sun, "“We have started work on the new film, which I can’t say anything about. Daniel Craig is very keen to get going."
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Also during the Ivor Novello Awards, Wilson was asked about he prospective talent being eyed for the next title theme song. "I would love to get Duffy to sing the next tune. I think she is wonderful. Amy Winehouse would be good too."
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'Bout goddamn time.
Never heard of "Duffy" though...

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Old 05-23-2009, 09:10 AM
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Never heard of "Duffy" though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE2orthS3TQ

Not sure she'd fit a Bond theme. Depends on the song, I guess.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:24 AM
Sweet. I'm curious to see where the next movie goes. I'm hoping Q and Ms. Moneypenny make appearances. I also want to see more of the Quantum organization storylines.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:49 AM
I just hope they get back to Bond and less Bourne-Bond. Bournd?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:23 AM
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I just hope they get back to Bond and less Bourne-Bond. Bournd?
I'll never understand this criticism.

Anyway, I can't wait.
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:31 PM
I personally didn't get the hate Quantum of Solace got. In fact, it gets better on repeated viewings. I've been dying for this news. Good to hear.
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:41 PM
I loved Quantum of Solace as well... Can't wait for this.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:04 PM
I wonder if the next Bond film will be based on original material by Ian Fleming or as an original screenplay.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:13 PM
Yesssssss.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:19 PM
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I personally didn't get the hate Quantum of Solace got. In fact, it gets better on repeated viewings. I've been dying for this news. Good to hear.
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I loved Quantum of Solace as well... Can't wait for this.
Thank you.

Quantum of Solace rules. To me, it seems like people hate Quantum ... for the same reasons they praised Casino Royale. "It's too serious," "too action-packed?" I think it works very well when watched back-to-back with CR.

So, is this really Bond 23...or Bond 24? I guess Never Say Never will never () be considered a part of the series? It seems forgotten anyhow.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:17 PM
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So, is this really Bond 23...or Bond 24? I guess Never Say Never will never () be considered a part of the series? It seems forgotten anyhow.
Or Bond 25. That Casino Royale comedy film starring Peter Sellers.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:38 PM
Yes, "Never Say Never Again" was really just a remake of "Thunderball" and was not produced under the Broccoli umbrella, so it is not an official entry; same goes for the beating-Austin-Powers-to-the-punch-by-30-years "Casino Royale" Bond spoof.

I feel the moniker Bond 2.3 would be more appropriate since, like Batman with "Batman Begins," they essentially started the series over from scratch on "Casino Royale."

Hopefully this one will use one of the remaining unused Fleming titles: "Risico," "The Hildebrand Rarity," or "The Property of a Lady."
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:55 PM
I love the less tongue-in-cheek direction the Bond franchise has taken and I hope to see more of the same here. I have no criticisms whatsoever of Casino Royale and my only gripe with Solace was that it depended too heavily (completely, really) on the previous film. I really like the continuous story between them, but Solace never found its own groove. Hell, the name "Vesper" was mentioned a dozen times in the dialogue without so much as a cursory flashback. If you hadn't watched Casino you'd be lost.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:33 PM
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I love the less tongue-in-cheek direction the Bond franchise has taken and I hope to see more of the same here. I have no criticisms whatsoever of Casino Royale and my only gripe with Solace was that it depended too heavily (completely, really) on the previous film. I really like the continuous story between them, but Solace never found its own groove. Hell, the name "Vesper" was mentioned a dozen times in the dialogue without so much as a cursory flashback. If you hadn't watched Casino you'd be lost.
Yeah but then you'd have a million complaints that the movie was treating the audiences as dumbasses because they knew who Vesper was and they don't need the complexities explained again. If you'd already seen Casino Royale I don't see why you'd care. I think if people hadn't seen Casino Royale they probably wouldn't have had that difficult a time working it out anyway. I think it would actually be really well done because the history between Bond and Vesper would unravel over the course of the movie and then you'd have that all important scene between him and Camille in the cave where he displays his affection for his lost love and what it's done to him. And then it would culminate into the final scene between him and Vesper's boyfriend. Damn I wish I hadn't seen Casino Royale first now.

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Old 05-24-2009, 10:05 AM
I enjoyed QOS , but it left me wanting more or less . It's a generic action movie with a man who thinks he's too sexy for his tux . This guy adds new meaning to the word " stiff " . He's like the classic square jawed stud who can be replaced with any other squared jawed stud and there would be no dropoff .

I hated the villain in Qos , was he supposed to be menacing or intimidating , he was just about a non entity , some reject baddie left over from the 80s .


This new version of Bond is decent enough for what it is , but it's sub par as Bond films go . The action blows , the guy is all wrong for Bond , the villains suck , the storylines are sleep inducing .
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:18 AM
I certainly didn't hate Quantum, but it wasn't in the least bit up to the standards Casino Royale set. I can't wait for the next one.
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:14 AM
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This new version of Bond is decent enough for what it is , but it's sub par as Bond films go . The action blows , the guy is all wrong for Bond , the villains suck , the storylines are sleep inducing .
I couldn't disagree more. The action was great, imo, Craig is my favorite Bond, and these two are my favorite Bond movies of all.
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:56 PM
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Yeah but then you'd have a million complaints that the movie was treating the audiences as dumbasses because they knew who Vesper was and they don't need the complexities explained again. If you'd already seen Casino Royale I don't see why you'd care. I think if people hadn't seen Casino Royale they probably wouldn't have had that difficult a time working it out anyway. I think it would actually be really well done because the history between Bond and Vesper would unravel over the course of the movie and then you'd have that all important scene between him and Camille in the cave where he displays his affection for his lost love and what it's done to him. And then it would culminate into the final scene between him and Vesper's boyfriend. Damn I wish I hadn't seen Casino Royale first now.
I knew that I'd get misinterpreted. I'm saying that there's a middle ground, man. Y'know? I'm not saying the "complexities" of the first film needed to be reexplained. I'm saying that if Quantum of Solace was going to rely so completely on the story that was told in Casino Royale, there should have been a few visual references to it (I think we can probably agree that movies are overwhelmingly a visual medium for storytelling) and not just references to "Vesper, Vesper, Vesper..." There's a lot of space in between hitting the lowest common denominator over the head with plot points, and ignoring said points to the degree that they no longer emotionally reinforce Bond's motivation to do what he's doing. The history between Bond and Vesper didn't "unravel" in Quantum of Solace (that happened in Casino Royale). It was merely referred to.
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Old 05-24-2009, 05:01 PM
When you look at Quantum of Solace as a single film it feels so incomplete, but when you consider Casino Royale and QoS as one than it becomes a whole lot better. I'm looking forward to where they'll take this film, hopefully we get a face behind the whole Quantum organization. Also I don't know why people complain about this film looking too much like the Bourne films the only way it resembles the Bourne series in anyway is the similarities in fight scenes which I rather enjoy because I hate when Bond could just kick everyone's ass without getting some marks on himself.
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Old 05-24-2009, 05:27 PM
I was referring to QoS being similar to Bourne in that they both were cut in the same frenetic way that made it hard to comprehend what was even going on. I didn't have that same problem with CR.
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Old 05-24-2009, 05:30 PM

The Living Daylights was the last really great Bond film. Dalton best exemplified the darker and brooding secret agent from the novels.

Fire away.
(I DO like Craig WAAAAY more than Brosnan though)
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Old 05-24-2009, 05:35 PM
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When you look at Quantum of Solace as a single film it feels so incomplete, but when you consider Casino Royale and QoS as one than it becomes a whole lot better. I'm looking forward to where they'll take this film, hopefully we get a face behind the whole Quantum organization. Also I don't know why people complain about this film looking too much like the Bourne films the only way it resembles the Bourne series in anyway is the similarities in fight scenes which I rather enjoy because I hate when Bond could just kick everyone's ass without getting some marks on himself.
Agreed. And that was another problem I had with QoS: the nebulous enemy. I get how the writers thought that an unseen, omnipresent evil organization could work in theory, but its only real face in the movie was Dominic Greene, who just never came across as threatening.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:36 AM
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The Living Daylights was the last really great Bond film. Dalton best exemplified the darker and brooding secret agent from the novels.

Fire away.
(I DO like Craig WAAAAY more than Brosnan though)
IMO, Dalton and the series producers never seemed to be on the same page; it was as if they weren't 100% behind Dalton's conception. TLD is the most humorless Bond movie and suffers a bit from the miscasting of Joe Don Baker as the central villain and one of the most nondescript heriones in the series. I thought "Licence to Kill" was far better. Brosnan briefly injected new life into the series by being the first actor to successfully balance humor and seriousness since the Connery/Lazenby years...but they got fairly by-the-numbers again fairly quickly.

As for the Bourne comparisons, it's obvious that those movies set the new standard for 21st century action movies...but let's also not forget that there'd be no Bourne in the first place if it wasn't for Bond.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:42 AM
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I just hope they get back to Bond and less Bourne-Bond. Bournd?
Same here.

Get a better editor and director of photography too. Preferbly the ones from the excellent Casino Royale.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:57 AM
The action in QOS didn't bother me much at all. I could actually follow what was happening unlike Bourne...

I dont automatically hate this type of filming and editing. It can be done effectively, but many films go overboard on it. I didn't feel QOS did at all.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:57 PM
Peter Morgan co-writing Bond 23 with Purvis/Wade:

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LOS ANGELES, June 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli of EON Productions Ltd and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures have today announced that Peter Morgan (Frost/Nixon, The Queen), Neal Purvis and Robert Wade (Quantum of Solace, Casino Royale) will be the screenwriters of the 23rd James Bond adventure.

Daniel Craig will reprise his role as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in the film, which will be a MGM release of an EON production. Bond 23 is the latest installment in the longest-running franchise in motion picture history and will be produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. A date for the start of production is yet to be confirmed.

"Peter, Neal and Robert are extraordinarily talented and we're looking forward to working with the three of them," commented Wilson and Broccoli.

Peter Morgan is the award-winning writer of such films as The Last King of Scotland, The Queen and Frost/Nixon, which was based on his play. He has also scripted the upcoming The Special Relationship for HBO and Hereafter for DreamWorks. He will turn his attention to Bond 23 on completion of these duties. Morgan is represented by UTA (US) and Independent Talent Group (UK).
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I don't know why they continue to bring Neil Purvis & Wade along since they suck ass, but whatever. As long as Morgan bring the same level of competency as Paul Haggis (and considering Morgan's credits, I'd say its safe to assume that he will), everything'll be all good....


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Old 06-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE2orthS3TQ

Not sure she'd fit a Bond theme. Depends on the song, I guess.
She's perfect for a Bond theme.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:19 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE2orthS3TQ

Not sure she'd fit a Bond theme. Depends on the song, I guess.
Wow!

Move over, Amy Winehouse, this Duffy girl would be amazing for a Bond theme...
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:27 PM
I hope they change up the story a bit and to a certain degree, "get back to basics." They've established how Bond came to be, but I wanna be able to like Bond again. As in, wish I was him and get the feeling he basically enjoys what he does. I haven't been a big fan of the newer ones since they were beginning to treat him like he was an action movie hero, the world's most stressed out man, when he really isn't. Roger Ebert explained it well in his QOS review and echoed my thoughts. Now that they've got the Vesper story and the Organization basically out of the way, I want them to do something different
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:41 PM
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They've established how Bond came to be, but I wanna be able to like Bond again. As in, wish I was him and get the feeling he basically enjoys what he does.
But Bond doesn't like what he does. And why should he? Who wants to be expendable?

I'm glad that they're finally playing him as the flawed, tragic, conflicted, dark character that Ian Fleming intended him to be.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:44 PM
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Wow!

Move over, Amy Winehouse, this Duffy girl would be amazing for a Bond theme...
Can we please ditch the fucking Bond theme already? I have never once enjoyed one of these songs or intros on any level.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:34 PM
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Can we please ditch the fucking Bond theme already? I have never once enjoyed one of these songs or intros on any level.
NO.

Ahem...

Just in time for the Peter Morgan announcement, I recently put together a teaser poster for Bond 23, for laughs. Tried to keep it in line with the more subdued poster campaigns for Casino and QoS. (P.S. I know the release date is wrong; that's what makes it fake. )
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:15 PM
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NO.

Ahem...

Just in time for the Peter Morgan announcement, I recently put together a teaser poster for Bond 23, for laughs. Tried to keep it in line with the more subdued poster campaigns for Casino and QoS. (P.S. I know the release date is wrong; that's what makes it fake. )
Cosign.

Anyway, nice poster, but I think it'd look a lot better if you just removed the gun completely, though that's just MO.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:54 PM
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NO.

why not?

The song has become more important than the film. Bond 22 was CRAP with a nonsensical plot and flat out boring action sequences. Yet, everyone was SO concerned with the song.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:38 AM
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why not?

The song has become more important than the film. Bond 22 was CRAP with a nonsensical plot and flat out boring action sequences. Yet, everyone was SO concerned with the song.
THE LARGE BOLD TEXT IS NOT REQUIRED TO EXPLAIN ITSELF.

...Oh fine.

QoS' plot made plenty of sense to me, I'd call the action scenes anything but boring, and the theme song was a definite step up from Casino Royale's "You Know My Name". For all the departures the Craig series has so far made from "traditional" Bond films of the Connery/Moore eras, leaving out the opening song intros would be viewed as some as an ultimate offense. It's kind of like a final trailer before the movie starts; the last bit of teasing before we get down to business. A big splash of color and sound before the mission begins.

Oh, and except on the rare occasion, there are silhouettes of nekkid ladies.

It's a matter of tradition. And I'll agree, some traditions are meant to be abandoned. The abundance of convenient gadgets and horrendous double entrendres are among those better left behind. The intro song is not.

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Anyway, nice poster, but I think it'd look a lot better if you just removed the gun completely, though that's just MO.
You mean the gun Craig is holding, or the gun in the 007 logo?
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:39 AM
I've never really been awed by the song intro, but it's such an iconic Bond thing it would feel like something was missing without it. The only problem is it feels like they are more worried about finding someone famous to do it than finding someone who actually fits.

I think I'm the only one on these boards who didn't like Casino Royale. It probably deserves a rewatch though. Quantom of Solace was waaaaaaay better paced, but the plot was so non epic it was just fail.

I'm still looking forward to Bond 23 however, as Daniel Craig has so much potential in the role and well it's James Bond.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:47 AM
I just spotted this very well-made fan teaser poster. This was made by JobeGDG on the MI6.co.uk forum.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:10 AM
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why not?

The song has become more important than the film. Bond 22 was CRAP with a nonsensical plot and flat out boring action sequences. Yet, everyone was SO concerned with the song.
Well, for me the theme-song/opening credits are one of the things that make Bond movies different and unique. If you take away that, as well as keep stripping it down of everything else that was unique to the movie series for the last 40 years, then it isn't even a Bond movie anymore, so why bother?


Bring back Q, Moneypenny, and a freaking sense of humor.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:44 AM
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Well, for me the theme-song/opening credits are one of the things that make Bond movies different and unique. If you take away that, as well as keep stripping it down of everything else that was unique to the movie series for the last 40 years, then it isn't even a Bond movie anymore, so why bother?


Bring back Q, Moneypenny, and a freaking sense of humor.
Because this isnt 40 years ago. Films are very, very different.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:25 AM
For those that aren't aware, MGM's financial troubles are the reason Bond 23's production has remained in limbo...

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?...4&t=mi6&s=news
http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?...4&t=mi6&s=news

Oi vey...

In other news, Muse really wants to do the next Bond theme.
Much like Duffy, I have no idea who they are either...

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I just spotted this very well-made fan teaser poster. This was made by JobeGDG on the MI6.co.uk forum.
Wow, that's insanely creative. I actually used to post on the Mi6 forums under the same name and know Jobe quite well. He also does great score music as well...

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