Paranormal Activity

[someguy]

Okay, so now I want the following according to you guys

a) A segment where Micah and Katie take a vacation to Sea World or some faraway land
b) A long extended 30+ minute sequence of exposition explaining that moving doesn't change anything
c) Better focus because I can't pay attention to a shitty use of exposition...by the guy who can't process reading subtitles

I see where this is going now.

[SteeleDude]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

The demon was chasing Katie, not the house. The movie consistently told us that, and yet people obviously still didn't get it. I really wish people would PAY ATTENTION instead of sitting there trying to come up with problems that aren't actually there, just in their own damn heads.

I loved Paranormal but I think it's a valid argument about them not leaving the house. I understand that the demon was following her and leaving the house probably wouldn't have worked (though why not take your footage to the police station and show them?), but you have to imagine the human will to survive would propel them to do something. Staying in the house after she was dragged out of bed seems hard to believe.

Not a big deal and I didn't think much about it during the movie. I accepted the logic because I loved the movie and didn't want it to end. But I think the argument here is valid.

If they went to the police station we don't even have to see it. There could be a quick cut and a few hours later they come back from their lack of help. I don't know. Just brainstorming here.

[Heisenberg]

Originally Posted by SteeleDude

I loved Paranormal but I think it's a valid argument about them not leaving the house. I understand that the demon was following her and leaving the house probably wouldn't have worked (though why not take your footage to the police station and show them?)

What could the Police do? Shoot the demon? Give me a break guy.







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[SteeleDude]

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

What could the Police do? Shoot the demon? Give me a break guy.

That's not the point. In a real situation like this where things are out of control, people look for help. The police, for many, represent a sign of protection. Not only from everyday crap that happens to us but from the abnormal. It is completely rational to think people might go to the police.

You're not looking at this from the point of view of two people stuck in this scenario (which we're supposed to do, this movie is supposed to mirror reality), you're looking at it from the point of view of the know-it-all in theater.

Why would it matter if anyone could help them? I don't know anyone who would just stay in a place like that and think "well that ghost guy said leaving won't help, and even though you were attacked physically last night we're going to stay here." Nobody would do that. They would go somewhere, anywhere, just to try. It's not realistic, and this movie prides itself on realism. This is a fairly substantial gap in logic in an otherwise good movie. Dismissing it because you like it seems like to me you just feel agitated that people might level any amount of criticism toward a movie you like. Guy.





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[sbunn10]

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

What could the Police do? Shoot the demon? Give me a break guy.

Wouldn't you show the footage to someone else? He's not saying the police would be able to do anything, but if you were being haunted, I doubt you would sit in the fucking bed all day.

I'm not disputing the reasons why they stayed in the house, but SteeleDude had a valid point.

It's getting a bit ridiculous with the attacking of anyone who doesn't like the film. It seems like everyone who disagrees with the idea that PA is the scariest film of the decade is being dismissed as a "hater" or and idiot. Give me a break. I thought the film sucked. Am I not entitled to that opinion? When I discussed what I disliked about it, nobody responded or explained why they were bad reasons to dislike it, but instead kept up the petty arguing.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I brought up that question also about the police. I even wondered why, with all the noise and commotion, the neighbors never decided to call the police. The houses were so close together i'm sure one of the neighbors would have been disturbed enough to call the men in blue

[Heisenberg]

Originally Posted by sbunn10

It's getting a bit ridiculous with the attacking of anyone who doesn't like the film. It seems like everyone who disagrees with the idea that PA is the scariest film of the decade is being dismissed as a "hater" or and idiot. Give me a break. I thought the film sucked. Am I not entitled to that opinion? When I discussed what I disliked about it, nobody responded or explained why they were bad reasons to dislike it, but instead kept up the petty arguing.

It is ridiculous, your right. But I have not attacked anybody for not liking the e film, I'm just trying to argue a point against the one that was raised last page.

[sbunn10]

I wasn't referring to you specifically, my bad. The general feel of the thread has been that way though, that's all.

[LordSimen]

I'm sorry but if I was being haunted by a ghost or a demon, the police would be the last people I'd ever contact. What the fuck could they do, anyway? They'd just think you're crazy and that your footage was faked. That doesn't sound real, that just sounds plain retarded. And I'm sorry, but I think everyone with a logical brain would stay if they knew leaving would not help.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

I'm sorry but if I was being haunted by a ghost or a demon, the police would be the last people I'd ever contact. What the fuck could they do, anyway? They'd just think you're crazy and that your footage was faked. That doesn't sound real, that just sounds plain retarded.

Really? The people paid to "protect and serve" would be the last people you would contact if you were being haunted by a ghost or a demon? You would rather contact the Sous chef at The Fat Duck or bring in the London Underground shoeshine man with the squint that says "I am looking for you and looking at you, muddafucka", or even my gran with the artificial hip and what is probably syphillis before you would contact the police force and all of its available resources?

Really, Lord Simen, you have a way with hyperbole that makes the sun shine.

Film was fucking shit and worse to watch than my arse. That, at least, only has one gaping hole.

[LordSimen]

Originally Posted by Reigh Kaufman

Really? The people paid to "protect and serve" would be the last people you would contact if you were being haunted by a ghost or a demon? You would rather contact the Sous chef at The Fat Duck or bring in the London Underground shoeshine man with the squint that says "I am looking for you and looking at you, muddafucka", or even my gran with the artificial hip and what is probably syphillis before you would contact the police force and all of its available resources?

Really, Lord Simen, you have a way with hyperbole that makes the sun shine.

Film was fucking shit and worse to watch than my arse. That, at least, only has one gaping hole.

Sorry, Reigh, but a Sous chef or a Shoeshine man could do more for you than the police could during a haunted or a possession. But hey, if you want to spend your days in a padded room because you're a danger to society, go ahead. Contact the police. Make a pointless, stupid move, see if I care. .

[Reigh Kaufman]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

Sorry, Reigh, but a Sous chef or a Shoeshine man could do more for you than the police could during a haunted or a possession. But hey, if you want to spend your days in a padded room because you're a danger to society, go ahead. Contact the police. Make a pointless, stupid move, see if I care. .

You realise this is a film, right?

[LordSimen]

Originally Posted by Reigh Kaufman

You realise this is a film, right?

Yeah, a perfect film.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

Yeah, a perfect film that people like you want to ruin with your really dumb additions.

You will get your revenge when I call the cops and they do jackshit against the demon haunting my wife...

That'll teach me not to phone motherfuckin' Ghostbusters.

[Tweek]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

Yeah, a perfect film that people like you want to ruin with your really dumb additions.

Do I really have to remind you?


1) You do not disrespect, insult or put down your fellow movie fan on our board. Civil debates only.


3) Think before posting!


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[SteeleDude]

Originally Posted by sbunn10

Wouldn't you show the footage to someone else? He's not saying the police would be able to do anything, but if you were being haunted, I doubt you would sit in the fucking bed all day.

I'm not disputing the reasons why they stayed in the house, but SteeleDude had a valid point.

It's getting a bit ridiculous with the attacking of anyone who doesn't like the film. It seems like everyone who disagrees with the idea that PA is the scariest film of the decade is being dismissed as a "hater" or and idiot. Give me a break. I thought the film sucked. Am I not entitled to that opinion? When I discussed what I disliked about it, nobody responded or explained why they were bad reasons to dislike it, but instead kept up the petty arguing.

Thanks, I'm glad someone gets what I'm saying. I actually loved the movie, but I can understand why people were pissed off by a number of things in the film. I was able to suspend disbelief to finish the movie, but if it jerked you out then the effect was probably ruined.

And of course it doesn't have to be the police. I mean you have to call someone though. People won't just stay in their house and take it after you get physically assaulted by something you can't see. Whether or not an exorcist was bad for someone else I'd imagine you might still call one. And was this movie in LA? Why do I feel like there might be more than one Demonologist in town?

In retrospect that was the most disappointing aspect of the film--that the couple failed to reach out. Because it is a human thing to do, when things get unnaturally weird, to reach out to others to ground them back in reality.

So I see it as a completely valid argument against a movie I loved. Horror movies have to quit taking lazy shortcuts like this. One of my other favorite films had lazy shortcuts like this throughout (28 Weeks Later) and though I still love it thematically, it also causes the film to draw a lot of criticism.

It wouldn't be hard to work out this problem without really changing anything in Paranormal Activity.

[LordSimen]

Originally Posted by Tweek

Do I really have to remind you?


1) You do not disrespect, insult or put down your fellow movie fan on our board. Civil debates only.


3) Think before posting!


http://www.joblo.com/forums/announcement.php?f=7

What? I'm not insulting the other members, just their additions. But whatever, I'll edit my post for you if you truly feel they're insulting.

[Tweek]

It was more along the lines of the 'disrespect' part. Just do as Conan O'Brien says, "Keep cool, my babies."

[zombievictim]

Originally Posted by LordSimen

What? I'm not insulting the other members, just their additions. But whatever, I'll edit my post for you if you truly feel they're insulting.

You're insulting their opinions! Exactly! You're insulting them for being different than your own. You fail to realize that just because you think one thing, doesn't make it true.

[Jig Saw 123]

After seeing the film last weekend I have to conclude that it is an overrated film that offers more laughs than scares; no scares at all for me, but I can agree with the people who thought Micah was just a character to further the plot. None of his actions really made sense from the very beginning, but with the inclusion of the Ouija board, you see that his character is dumber as the movie progresses. This is definitely not the Blair Witch Project of 2009.

5/10

[adamjohnson]

I have to agree that this scared the fuck out of me.

I might have to consider a 10/10. A first for me.

If I can handle a rewatch, I',l do it before i make my rating.
Honestly, Im shaking. Of course, I watched it alone in the dark, but what can I say, I didnt expect it to be ACTUALLY scary.

[adamjohnson]

Originally Posted by NuclearMisfit

The best parts of this movie is the nighttime bedroom footage with the demon. They were really well done and I loved how the attacks got more severe as time went on, my favorite scenes were when Micah put powder down and there were three toed footprints and the part where Micah wakes up as the footsteps sound like they come into the room followed by the sound of it hauling ass out out slamming the door.


[/SPOILER]

If anyone has seen the alternate ending answer this for me.

Spoiler:

Before the cops arrive in the room we see the light down the hall turn on, was that the demon returning to the attic?

Wait thats the ending I saw. The demon definitely went into the hall.

Was there another ending?

Spoiler:

Ok, so is the only other ending where she slits her own throat?? I cant find a video of it.

Im told its scary because its like the Demon is watching you.

[NuclearMisfit]

I tell you what I watched this movie in the middle of the night (probably my favorite time to watch horror films) and it gave me the kind of scare where your hairs stand up and you get goosebumps.

There are 3 endings

Spoiler:

The ending with the cops and the demon going down the hallway back into the attic and she kills Micah downstairs

Spoiler:

The 2nd ending Micah runs downstairs to save Katie and is thrown into the camera, a bloody Katie comes in and smiles at the camera with a quick flash of a demons face

Spoiler:

The 3rd is not really much of an ending with an added picture of Katie and Micah saying In Loving Memory or something like that nature.

[SatansPuppet]

I thought, all together there were about 12 endings in total which is why they're making the DVD/Blu an interactive experience... select the ending you want, yatta yatta yatta

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally Posted by SatansPuppet

I thought, all together there were about 12 endings in total which is why they're making the DVD/Blu an interactive experience... select the ending you want, yatta yatta yatta

really? that would be a great dvd.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I want the ending where the police get trapped in the room after discovering Katie sitting by the bed

[ScaryFreak1827]

Well I finally got a chance to see this, after weeks of hype and seeing dozens of previews, and I have to say that I absolutely loved it! This movie, much like the Blair Witch, scared the living hell out of me. I liked the lead characters (Micah had me laughing at many parts; loved the Monty Python reference btw) and their performances felt genuine. The scares were slowly built up and the tension never let up, even during the daytime scenes. With the last fifteen minutes I have to admit that I was probably most scared I have ever been during a movie. Things start to get more rough towards the end and the last shot was chilling. I'm glad they kept this original end (although as we walked out one of my friends said *minor spoiler* she wished there had seen cops somehow involved in the ending. She had no idea of the alt. ending. *end of minor spoiler*) Anyway great movie and VERY creepy.

10/10

[Zorro9]

Originally Posted by Katel2

I loved this film. It was simple- it creeped me out- it creeped the other theater goers out. It shows the imagination that only a low budget can give you. Not relying on special effects- big sets- big name actors. This is also the kind of film that people like to tear apart after the fact. If you want the two hour bludgeoning of Inside (and I often do) then this is not the film for you.

Even if the film wasn't a cinematical masterpiece it delivered a lot for what it cost to make. You can spend 50 million or more on a piece of complete shlock and not do half as well as what PA delivered. Whether or not these super low-budget releases will be a new trend is another story altogether, of course. There is an interesting article on that aspect of the PA phenomenon on www.indiemoviemania.com.