#7841  
Old 08-07-2011, 11:57 AM
Absolutely thrilled that Rise of the Apes made that much. Really hoping we get a sequel now.

On a sidenote, The Change Up is ANOTHER boxoffice letdown for Ryan Reynolds.
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  #7842  
Old 08-07-2011, 12:11 PM
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Absolutely thrilled that Rise of the Apes made that much. Really hoping we get a sequel now.

On a sidenote, The Change Up is ANOTHER boxoffice letdown for Ryan Reynolds.
Ryan Reynolds was never a box office draw, though. Any film of his that has opened well opened because of reasons despite him (Amityville Horror, The Proposal, Wolverine, Green Lantern). All of his movies wherein he's the big draw didn't open well at all. In fact, this is his biggest opening that didn't have a property or other big star attached to it. I like him, but I'm tired of him being shoved down our throats as a star. He's much better in films like Adventureland where he plays a well developed supporting character or in Definitely, Maybe where he has some depth than in something like Green Lantern where all he does is crack jokes. I hope he crafts his career accordingly and doesn't pick the projects that should be hits but rather ones that might actually be good.
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  #7843  
Old 08-07-2011, 01:28 PM
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Cap is a failure....must be the whole Heroe's are made in America BS propaganda shown everywhere.

Is that part of the movies campaign or slogan that Heroes are made in America? I didn't realize that. What BS propaganda are you talking about is regards to this movie?

And come on...a failure?
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  #7844  
Old 08-07-2011, 02:57 PM
Weekend estimates:

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1. Rise of the Planet of the Apes $54,000,000
2. The Smurfs $21,000,000 -41.0% ($76,202,000)
3. Cowboys & Aliens $15,748,000 -56.8% ($67,368,000)
4. The Change-Up $13,502,000
5. Captain America: The First Avenger $13,000,000 -49.1% ($143,182,000)
6. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 $12,160,000 -44.7% ($342,801,000)
7. Crazy, Stupid, Love. $12,100,000 -36.7% ($42,185,000)
8. Friends with Benefits $4,700,000 -49.3% ($48,538,000)
9. Horrible Bosses $4,620,000 -35.7% ($105,162,000)
10. Transformers: Dark of the Moon $3,015,000 -50.5% ($344,173,000)
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  #7845  
Old 08-07-2011, 03:18 PM
in terms of Reynolds... i watched Buried again last night, and I will say again, that the dude was severely over looked last year for awards.

He is a really good actor, and that movie proves it, only a hand full of actors could have pulled off that role, only him, in a coffin, 94 minutes, flawless.

I think the failure of Green Lantern has more to do with Superhero Fatigue as opposed to Ryan Reynolds star power... now some will say that Capt America proves there is no Super Hero Fatigue.. but with these Marvel movies, the audience feels like they are seeing another part of the same story, that will culminate next year with Avengers.

I actually thought Change Up was going to be a big hit, the trailers looked comical, and the audiences I saw it with seemed to laugh at it. But perhaps again, people have R rated comedy Fatigue.
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  #7846  
Old 08-07-2011, 04:16 PM
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in terms of Reynolds... i watched Buried again last night, and I will say again, that the dude was severely over looked last year for awards.

He is a really good actor, and that movie proves it, only a hand full of actors could have pulled off that role, only him, in a coffin, 94 minutes, flawless.

I think the failure of Green Lantern has more to do with Superhero Fatigue as opposed to Ryan Reynolds star power... now some will say that Capt America proves there is no Super Hero Fatigue.. but with these Marvel movies, the audience feels like they are seeing another part of the same story, that will culminate next year with Avengers.

I actually thought Change Up was going to be a big hit, the trailers looked comical, and the audiences I saw it with seemed to laugh at it. But perhaps again, people have R rated comedy Fatigue.
Fatigue definitely has some aspect of it, but it doesn't help that both Green Lantern and The Change Up received very bad reviews and are at the low totem pole of their respective genres for this summer. Green Lantern is a hard concept to buy into and the movie was very, very bad. It had a fine opening weekend but dropped like a rock due to bad WOM. As for the Change Up, the plot has been done hundreds of times before and the trailers made the film look very disgusting and over-the-top. I just don't think it was a priority for anyone to see.

I do agree that it is not Reynolds' fault, but rather the movies he is in. Which is really the case for all actors these days. Actors are not stars anymore the way they used to be. If they were, Larry Crowne would have been huge. Rather the content of the film (and more importantly the franchise/brand they are associated with) is the true star of the film. It's just the evolution of the business of Hollywood.
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  #7847  
Old 08-07-2011, 09:18 PM
^ agree fully.

I thought Green Lantern was ok, but nothing special. The Change Up i plan on checking out this week.

I really do wonder how much Critical Response does play into these movies?

Does the average joe movie fan check Rotten Tomatoes to see how "Fresh" a movie is?

This weekend has me a bit upside down in terms of my predictions, as the movie i thought was going to tank, was number 1 and exceeded expectations by over 20 million, and the movie i thought would be a hit, tanked!

But this is just one of those weekends that align with the critics, because a lot of times the number 1 movie is not align with critical response, it isn't until the second weekend that you start to realize the critics MAY have been right.

The fatigue factor will come into play next week though, if 30 Minutes or Less tanks, because as of now the movie is getting good reviews, but it is an R rated Comedy. But who knows, maybe Final Destination 5 will open at number 1, those movies are always front loaded. Of course the surprise number 1 could be The Help, which has Surprise Hit written all over it. (A movie for Woman with a predominately black cast, that actually looks good, and i am a white dude!)
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  #7848  
Old 08-08-2011, 01:44 AM
Don't know why you thought Apes was going to tank. The previews really sold the movie well and it's an established franchise.

I think people were savvy enough to realize this had nothing to do with the misstep that was the 2001 installment.

I thought it could do a little better but considering it held strong throughout the weekend it's an excellent sign it will be around for awhile and possibly flirt with 200 mil.

About Reynold's and his string of bombs, i do agree he's excellent in supporting roles but not as the main attraction, he was funny in Van Wilder as the lead but i do prefer him more as a secondary character.

Just check out his work in Two guys and a Pizza Place, he's brilliant in measured doses
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  #7849  
Old 08-08-2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah I really got no beef with Reynolds' acting. Thought he was fantastic in Buried. Just noticed that his films have been bombing lately.

His next film(Safe House) should certainly be a hit (considering it stars Denzel Washington).
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  #7850  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:43 AM
i have yet to ever even hear of The Help and it opened up damn strong so far already. i really must be paying less and less attention to my surroundings, or am I the only one who hasn't even heard of this until literally ten minutes ago checking boxofficemojo.
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  #7851  
Old 08-13-2011, 04:28 PM
Friday estimates (moviecitynews.com)

1. Rise of the Planet of the Apes - 8 mil
2. The Help - 7.6 mil
3. Final Destination 5 - 7.2 mil
4. 30 Minutes or Less - 4.8 mil
5. The Smurfs - 3.7 mil
6. Glee: 3D - 2.7 mil
7. Cowboys and Aliens - 2.2 mil
8. Crazy, Stupid, Love - 2.1 mil
9. Captain America - 2 mil
10. The Change-Up - 1.9 mil

Excellent for The Help; with its A+ Cinemascore rating, I could definitely seeing it as one of the leggier films of the summer. Surprised FD has some life left in it, but I remember the last one did even better.
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  #7852  
Old 08-13-2011, 04:34 PM
Did Glee 3D tank?
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  #7853  
Old 08-13-2011, 04:49 PM
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Did Glee 3D tank?
Yes and no. It will make about 7-8 million for the weekend, but it only cost 7 million to make (including the 3D conversion) and I expect it to be on DVD within a month. Essentially the theatrical release is serving as an advertisement for the DVD. Money will be made.
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  #7854  
Old 08-14-2011, 01:38 AM
Wow. The Change-Up is already nearly out of the top 10. Not good. Very disappointing because I love the movie.
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  #7855  
Old 08-14-2011, 10:31 AM
Is it possible for The Help to go to 100 million?
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  #7856  
Old 08-14-2011, 10:50 AM
Holy fuck at both The Help and Rise of the Planet of the Apes.


And what about 30 Minutes or Less bombing. I think the R rated comedy is starting to slow down in the box office results.
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  #7857  
Old 08-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Weekend estimates:

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1. Rise of the Planet of the Apes $27,500,000 -49.8% ($104,876,000)
2. The Help $25,525,000 ($35,399,000)
3. Final Destination 5 $18,400,000
4. The Smurfs $13,500,000 -34.8% ($101,546,000)
5. 30 Minutes or Less $13,000,000
6. Cowboys & Aliens $7,613,000 -51.6% ($81,476,000)
7. Captain America: The First Avenger $7,125,000 -45.3% ($156,885,000)
8. Crazy, Stupid, Love $6,930,000 -42.3% ($55,402,000)
9. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 $6,875,000 -44.8% ($356,961,000)
10. The Change-Up $6,219,000 -54.0% ($25,751,000)
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  #7858  
Old 08-14-2011, 01:36 PM
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And what about 30 Minutes or Less bombing. I think the R rated comedy is starting to slow down in the box office results.
I wouldn't call it a bomb. Certainly not great, but its budget was pretty small. I do agree though that there is some R-rated comedy fatigue. There have been a ton of them this summer and while the early ones have were successful, the last few have done only mildly well.
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  #7859  
Old 08-14-2011, 01:47 PM
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Is it possible for The Help to go to 100 million?
I think so. If the world of mouth continues (it is very strong) I see it having very small drops over the coming weeks. It isn't the type of film people rush out to see either, so I'm sure lots of book readers are still just waiting for the right time.
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  #7860  
Old 08-14-2011, 01:53 PM
The Help should cruise past $100 million with ease. An A+ Cinemascore is something that happens only a few times a year, and when it does the movie tends to have terrific legs.
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  #7861  
Old 08-14-2011, 07:26 PM
Incredible that Cowboys & Aliens is still at the top 10 even if it's considered a dissapointment. I guess Cowboys & Aliens and Priest are the only comic book based movies that did not well at the box office this year.

Lazy Boy's avatar scares the shit out of me!
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  #7862  
Old 08-15-2011, 11:27 AM
Congrats to the mouth breathers who put a movie that didnt deserve to go past part 1 let alone 4 sequels above 30 Minutes or Less.
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  #7863  
Old 08-20-2011, 12:33 PM
Looks like FN and Conan bombed ( maybe an Maidinator cameo could have helped ), depending on what their respective budgets were.

The Help is still going strong, 100 mil easily now, 200 maybe ? 200 mil is about what they would have to pay me to sit through what looks like a glorified hallmark/lifetime channel film

With all the hoopla over the revamped POTA, it looks to be on a trajectory to make the same amount as the Burton version did in 2001 ( about 180 mil ) which means even less tickets were sold for this one, if you adjust for inflation. I liked this reboot but for some reason i don't see much replay value, i still enjoy watching the 2001 misstep . This new one is still a success though, i just don't really care to see it again
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  #7864  
Old 08-21-2011, 08:12 AM
Wonder what the budgets were on Conan and Spy Kids 4....these numbers can't be good for them.
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  #7865  
Old 08-21-2011, 12:23 PM
Weekend estimates

1. The Help - 20.4 mil
2. Rise of the Planet of the Apes - 16.2 mil
3. Spy Kids: All the Time in the World - 11.8 mil
4. Conan the Barbarian - 9.7 mil
5. Fright Night - 8.1 mil
6. The Smurfs - 8 mil
7. Final Destination 5 - 7.7 mil
8. 30 Minutes or Less - 6.3 mil
9. One Day - 5.1 mil
10. Crazy, Stupid, Love - 4.9 mil

Great hold for The Help. Terrible numbers for Conan and Fright Night.
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  #7866  
Old 08-21-2011, 02:23 PM
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Weekend estimates

1. The Help - 20.4 mil
2. Rise of the Planet of the Apes - 16.2 mil
3. Spy Kids: All the Time in the World - 11.8 mil
4. Conan the Barbarian - 9.7 mil
5. Fright Night - 8.1 mil
6. The Smurfs - 8 mil
7. Final Destination 5 - 7.7 mil
8. 30 Minutes or Less - 6.3 mil
9. One Day - 5.1 mil
10. Crazy, Stupid, Love - 4.9 mil

Great hold for The Help. Terrible numbers for Conan and Fright Night.
Take that Hollywood!Stop remaking, rebooting and re-imagining movies instead of original ideas to be brought to the silver screen. Damn you Robert Rodriguez stop making kids movies and bring us mature films instead!
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  #7867  
Old 08-21-2011, 02:53 PM
Fright Night should've been released in October; I have no idea why they released in August. Hell, end of September would've been better; at least it would've still been around for Halloween.

Conan the Barbarian had no audience. The original movie(s) barely did and they didn't exactly break the bank. But at least they had Arnold's (eventual) star-power which would make them cult classics.

Unfortunately, I doubt these two will be the end of remakes/reboots/re-imaginings. These will just be the end of R-rated remakes/reboots/re-imaginings. Any more that come out will be PG-13.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:58 PM
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Wonder what the budgets were on Conan and Spy Kids 4....these numbers can't be good for them.
Conan $70M
Fright Night $30M
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  #7869  
Old 08-21-2011, 03:05 PM
boxofficemojo.com has Conan's budget at $90 million. They have Spy Kids 4 at $27 million.
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  #7870  
Old 08-22-2011, 01:06 AM
The folks behind Fright Night goofed by not having it open around Halloween. I think it would of made a lot more money.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:56 AM
Yay for The Help. It deserves to be making money. A great adult drama for people tired of special effects driven films. Which is not necessarily me but it's nice to have a break and have something as emotionally satisfying as The Help every once and a while.
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  #7872  
Old 08-22-2011, 03:15 AM
I figured Conan would tank.. it looked like shit and just meh

I am pretty shocked Fright Night tanked... Genre movies generally pull in good numbers opening weekend, close to $30 Mil generally... plus to actually have a lot of positive reviews... very weird!
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:36 PM
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The folks behind Fright Night goofed by not having it open around Halloween. I think it would of made a lot more money.
The same goes for Final Destination 5.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:09 PM
Fucking studios in their arrogance once again release a HORROR flick WAYY before Halloween season and wonder why it underperforms. The same is now happening for Dont Be Afraid of the Dark this coming Friday. By the time Halloween rolls around there wont be any horror flicks in the theater. No...the idiots release them now and around Christmas - a holy season..go figure.

The mouth breathers, unlike me who will still go to a well made horror flick need the Halloween season to tell them when to see a scary movie. FRIGHT NIGHT should have been at the least number 2 at the B.O

And I also fault any dude who let his chick talk him into seeing The Help..check your crotch...you either have a mangina between your legs or you are gay and dont know it yet.
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  #7875  
Old 08-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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Fucking studios in their arrogance once again release a HORROR flick WAYY before Halloween season and wonder why it underperforms. The same is now happening for Dont Be Afraid of the Dark this coming Friday. By the time Halloween rolls around there wont be any horror flicks in the theater. No...the idiots release them now and around Christmas - a holy season..go figure.

The mouth breathers, unlike me who will still go to a well made horror flick need the Halloween season to tell them when to see a scary movie. FRIGHT NIGHT should have been at the least number 2 at the B.O

And I also fault any dude who let his chick talk him into seeing The Help..check your crotch...you either have a mangina between your legs or you are gay and dont know it yet.
That last line is pretty offensive dude. I saw The Help because I wanted to. I enjoyed it. So get off your high horse. Maybe you're the one with a mangina?
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  #7876  
Old 08-22-2011, 02:58 PM
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That last line is pretty offensive dude. I saw The Help because I wanted to. I enjoyed it. So get off your high horse. Maybe you're the one with a mangina?
Or just doesn't have a woman.
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  #7877  
Old 08-23-2011, 07:20 AM
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That last line is pretty offensive dude. I saw The Help because I wanted to. I enjoyed it. So get off your high horse. Maybe you're the one with a mangina?
Really? Offensive? You must not like 98% of the comnedians out there and also support political correctness..either way, your MANCARD needs to be suspended.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:23 AM
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Or just doesn't have a woman.
..yeah...riiiiight.

When I jerk off its cuz shes asking me to while I watch her do the same....unlike some who probably dont have a chick and their hands ARE their dates
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:19 PM
YEEEEEEEAAAAH BRO!

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  #7880  
Old 08-23-2011, 03:45 PM
http://www.movieline.com/2011/08/som...st-weekend.php

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Last weekend was an especially brutal one for new releases, with Fright Night, Conan the Barbarian and Spy Kids: All the Time in the World all performing well below expectations. But numerous indies and other limited releases had it even worse: Renny Harlin’s 5 Days of War grossed less than $7,000 on two screens. The Patrick Dempsey/Ashley Judd heist romcom Flypaper barely broke $1,000 in a pair of theaters. But something called The Worst Movie Ever! had arguably the worst movie opening ever: $11.

According to Box Office Mojo, the film debuted on one screen and appears to have had one single viewer. A scan of the film’s Facebook page reveals that screen to have been at the Laemmle Sunset 5 in Los Angeles, where WME! had two midnight screenings on Friday and Saturday — only one of which was actually attended by anybody, evidently. “I just received the box office numbers from LA - ugh,” wrote writer-producer-director-star Glenn Berggoetz in a post on Monday. His viewer’s identity isn’t clear, but signs point to young co-star Christine Mascolo, who had her photograph snapped in front of the theater over the weekend. (Berggoetz, who is based in Denver, has not yet responded to Movieline’s request for comment.) The resulting $11 gross rivals the infamous $20 earned by the Katherine Heigl bomb Zzyax Road, which screened to exactly six people over a week in 2007.
That star really needed to buy more than one ticket to her own movie. Honestly.
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