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Old 02-28-2012, 01:17 AM
Manny Pac has speed and stamina going for him but I think he's MASSIVELY overrated. While I will always love Ali, he himself said that Tyson in his prime would have beat him. He called Tyson the best during an appearance on the Arsenio Hall show years ago. One last thing, I never cared for Sugar Ray Leonard. I believe many of his opponents were over the hill chumps or that he was just favored by judges because he was a good guy. I think his longevity can be attributed to some skill but a lot of luck, too.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:13 PM
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Manny Pac has speed and stamina going for him but I think he's MASSIVELY overrated. While I will always love Ali, he himself said that Tyson in his prime would have beat him. He called Tyson the best during an appearance on the Arsenio Hall show years ago. One last thing, I never cared for Sugar Ray Leonard. I believe many of his opponents were over the hill chumps or that he was just favored by judges because he was a good guy. I think his longevity can be attributed to some skill but a lot of luck, too.
I'm sure Ali was being diplomatic when he said that. Ali had a long reach and a good jab. He also had an iron chin, so Tyson couldn't hope to knock him out with one shot the way he did with most guys. If Tyson couldn't deal with Douglas' reach, how could he even start with Ali? Ali in 64-65 could take any other heavyweight in history, IMO.

BTW, where was Aaron Pryor on that list? Arguably the greatest junior welter of all-time gets no love?
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:21 AM
Based on his skill. Based on the quality of his opponents like Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott.

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Old 03-13-2012, 08:51 AM
Idk my top 50, but for sure Greb, Marciano, and SRR would be on it, and that's likely to be my top 3.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:33 AM
I'll just say that I believe Larry Holmes is the 3rd best heavyweight ever, behind Joe Louis and Ali, so he should be higher than he is on the list, and you must've copied the list wrong cause Willie Pep is at least in the top 10, probably top 5, but I don't see him anywhere.Des Moines Jiu Jitsu

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Old 03-15-2013, 01:54 PM
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I'll just say that I believe Larry Holmes is the 3rd best heavyweight ever, behind Joe Louis and Ali, so he should be higher than he is on the list, and you must've copied the list wrong cause Willie Pep is at least in the top 10, probably top 5, but I don't see him anywhere.Des Moines Jiu Jitsu
5. Willie Pep

Featherweight
Ring career: 1940-66 Record: 230-11-1 (65 KOs)
Career notes: Two-time world featherweight champion renowned for legendary defensive skills. Achieved tremendous success despite suffering near-fatal injuries in a plane crash in 1947. Legend that says he once won a round without throwing a punch (he almost certainly did not) is testament to defensive wizardry of "Will o' the Wisp." Won first 63 bouts before losing to Sammy Angott, and then went 72-0-1 before losing again, to Sandy Saddler. Only Saddler was ever truly able to figure him out, winning three of four times in bouts that were frequently brutal and foul-filled.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:05 PM
Willie Pep is proof that fighters today aren't necessarily that much better than those of way back when. The science of nutrition and training don't compare to the science of actual boxing. Pep was a master of that and it only says great things about Saddler that he was able to figure him out.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:14 PM
Haven't seen you here in a while, you should post more.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:53 AM
Is Amir khan in that list too?
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:03 PM
Well this is true that all these are great boxers of all time. All of these have shown great result and played well. Anyway its a wonderful thread and i like it. Thank you all for sharing posts.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:13 PM
These boxers have really done a lot to achieve what they are today and I really appreciate your list
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