X3!!!

[mouldy311]

Review by Michael Jaffe

I am not homophobic but I hated Wolverine in X3. Not that everyman who cries is a woman, but in the course of a two hour movie, what is supposed to be a purely animal character filled with rage took out his rage not by using his unbreakable claws, but by crying. Twice. One of the manliest characters ever developed a feminine side. What the fuck? The sequel is gonna be X4: Gotta Dance where Wolverine goes to Broadway. As a fan and reader of the comics I know for a fact that Wolverine has testicles, so the movie is way off what it should be.
But the movie, other than the numerous differences from the comic that the previous two films didn’t make, this films was shoddily made with a terrible script. The writer, Zak Penn famed for X2 but also Elektra, Suspect Zero and Inspector Gadget, shows that X2 might have been either a fluke or a testament to Bryan Singer’s genius. The characters have no real depth in this movie, even Jean Grey who has a lot of time devoted to her, appears just to be a confused teenager. The movie tells us Phoenix, her alter-ego is the most powerful mutant out there, but she has two tirades and a lot of walking around looking angry and confused. The plot of the movie takes the Dark Phoenix tale from the comics and combines it with the threat of a mutant cure, a great idea from Joss Whedon of Serenity. When a wealthy owner of a drug company develops a mutant cure drug, Magneto feels threatened and assembles a brotherhood to fight it. He is joined by the now evil Jean Grey who’s split personality broke out at the end of X2.
The direction on this film is big and bold but fails as continuity of the simplest kind is ignored (one second its mid day, the next its night) and the effects, while done by WETA (Peter Jackson’s effects team), vary from incredible to shoddy looking. While these mistakes could be overlooked, I wish Brett Ratner had been able to at least read the script before he started shooting or to work of figuring out some of the mutants. There are character mistakes from the comics and there is some terrible dialogue. Possible the greatest mistake is how Professor X’s character pulls a complete 180 turn from what he has been in the movies and books, and he becomes a condescending asshole. Really, I love Prof X but he acts like such a pompous dick in this movie, I started rooting for the Brotherhood.
The addition of Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut is brilliant as he was the funniest and most bad ass mutant in the entire film as he even gets the best line in the movie. And of course the addition of puffer boy lightens things up. The new mutants really made this film watchable. Patrick Stewart is good in his role as Prof X even thought the character is shoddy and Ian McKellen continues his run as a standout in crap films, continuing from Da Vinci Code. Mr. McKellen made me root for Magneto because he gave the character life, depth and some emotional base even though his lines where on occasion unintentionally funny.
That’s another thing about this movie that I hated. There were numerous times where lines that were supposed to be serious received a big laugh from the audience. The Juggernaut line was hysterical and some moments just got the audience laughing. I heard more laughs at this screening than I did when I saw Rush Hour 2, which was a funny movie that I liked! I really want Brett Ratner to making Rush Hour movies and leave the superhero stuff to either the professionals or people who have enough time to work on the script a little. My real highlight for this movie though was the Snakes on a Plane trailer which got a real big WHOOP from the audience. And also, don’t leave until after the credits because there is a little bit of X-trocity left.
4/10

[RealTimeScrub]

Originally posted by mouldy311
Review by Michael Jaffe

I am not homophobic but I hated Wolverine in X3. Not that everyman who cries is a woman, but in the course of a two hour movie, what is supposed to be a purely animal character filled with rage took out his rage not by using his unbreakable claws, but by crying. Twice. One of the manliest characters ever developed a feminine side. What the fuck? The sequel is gonna be X4: Gotta Dance where Wolverine goes to Broadway. As a fan and reader of the comics I know for a fact that Wolverine has testicles, so the movie is way off what it should be. 4/10

It sounds like you're saying that if you cry...you're feminine, which is untrue of course. Wolvie is human, just like the rest of us. He does has a purely animal side filled with rage but he also has feelings.

If you kill the woman you love and you don't cry, I don't consider you human and I don't consider you likeable. If a great man you know who has done nothing but helped mutant kind his entire life dies in front of your eyes, you would cry.

What you're asking for is a two dimensional character who just wants to cut things and that is NOT Wolverine. By no means does crying over a loved one make you lose your "testicles" as you put it. Not to mention, you're saying that Broadway is for feminine men, which is also unture. (case in point, Hugh Jackman.)

Plus, the Wolvie kill count in X3 was in the double digits so I don't understand how Wolvie has gone feminine.

Sorry. You may have "said" that crying doesn't make you feminine but that's exactly what you said...along with Broadway making you feminine. I am a Wolvie fan and it's not right when my favorite X-Man gets riddiculed due to ignorance.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by mouldy311
Review by Michael Jaffe
I am not homophobic but I hated Wolverine in X3. Not that everyman who cries is a woman, but in the course of a two hour movie, what is supposed to be a purely animal character filled with rage took out his rage not by using his unbreakable claws, but by crying. Twice. One of the manliest characters ever developed a feminine side. What the fuck? The sequel is gonna be X4: Gotta Dance where Wolverine goes to Broadway. As a fan and reader of the comics I know for a fact that Wolverine has testicles, so the movie is way off what it should be.

You got to be kidding me? You're basically throwing everything else that Wolverine did in the movie; like slashing, stabbing, and ultimately killing a few mutants, throwing out some great one-liners ("Grow those back."), and making out with one fiery redhead and criticizing the guy because he cried TWICE??

For me, Wolverine was one of the best things about X3, and there weren't that many.

[mouldy311]

bigred and realtimescrub, i overdid it in my review, but what i am saying is that wolverine is supposed to be a purly animal, raw creature filled with rage and violence, and while he does do alot of slashing in this film which looked great he also had those touchy feely, fake leadership momnets with the pep talk before the final battle and his crying. the wolverine i have come to know and love from teh comics would go "lets go" and go to fight as opposed to trying to pep everyone up. SPOILER ALERT!!!

when he killed jean in that ludicrous scene, where prof X exploded, wolverine simply kept rehealing himself. how did he not just go pop and disentegrate like everyone else? and then when he killed her, he cried for doing what everyone knew he should've done. a primal scream and a run off into the night while slashing people up because hes angry would've been much more appropriate than sitting there crying about it.

my major complaint was that jean made the choice of the responsible scott, or the beast that is logan. when she chose logan it showed that the primal creature within him reigned supreme, but by crying he shows that he's being intellectual about it instead of being all uncontrolled emotion, which he should be. thats all im saying.

[RealTimeScrub]

Originally posted by mouldy311
bigred and realtimescrub, i overdid it in my review, but what i am saying is that wolverine is supposed to be a purly animal, raw creature filled with rage and violence, and while he does do alot of slashing in this film which looked great he also had those touchy feely, fake leadership momnets with the pep talk before the final battle and his crying. the wolverine i have come to know and love from teh comics would go "lets go" and go to fight as opposed to trying to pep everyone up. SPOILER ALERT!!!

when he killed jean in that ludicrous scene, where prof X exploded, wolverine simply kept rehealing himself. how did he not just go pop and disentegrate like everyone else? and then when he killed her, he cried for doing what everyone knew he should've done. a primal scream and a run off into the night while slashing people up because hes angry would've been much more appropriate than sitting there crying about it.

my major complaint was that jean made the choice of the responsible scott, or the beast that is logan. when she chose logan it showed that the primal creature within him reigned supreme, but by crying he shows that he's being intellectual about it instead of being all uncontrolled emotion, which he should be. thats all im saying.

Understandable. Most of what you dislike was because Cyclops was missing in action. It wasn't a creative choice so much as a political one since James Marsden decided to go with Singer to do Supes.

[Dr Venkman]

I will just go ahead and say the obvious here - the loss of Singer was very evident. However, Rattner doesn't deserve as much shit as he is getting. Apart from the lack of cyclops, too many characters, and under-use of Beast, I feel the film was still pretty slick and a whole hell of a lot of fun to watch. I would definitely see it again.

P.S. It dominated at the box office. So bitching about it won't do any of you any good! hehe

[RealTimeScrub]

Originally posted by Dr Venkman
IHowever, Rattner doesn't deserve as much shit as he is getting. Apart from the lack of cyclops, too many characters, and under-use of Beast, I feel the film was still pretty slick and a whole hell of a lot of fun to watch. I would definitely see it again.

Not to mention, horrible dialogue and not enough time. But other than those, I'd say I liked the action.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Dr Venkman
I will just go ahead and say the obvious here - the loss of Singer was very evident. However, Rattner doesn't deserve as much shit as he is getting. Apart from the lack of cyclops, too many characters, and under-use of Beast, I feel the film was still pretty slick and a whole hell of a lot of fun to watch. I would definitely see it again.

I thought the film was well directed myself - it was the writing the bothered me the most. While it wasn't as well-directed as the previous two; Singer's touch was noticeably lacking, I don't think Ratner is to blame for my disappointment in the movie - not entirely anyway.

[Cronos]

i was very surprised with The Last Stand, the loss of Singer left me very skeptical and although his absence was evident onscreen Ratner still managed to make a film that kept me fully entertained from beginning to end. the action scenes were well directed and the effects looked excellent. the characters developed well and the plot has some really nice twists and turns that left me thinking after leaving the cinema

also has a pretty damn good soundtrack

9/10

[Nived]

Wolverine was just as "sentimental" in X3 as he was in X1 and X2. If he's supposed to be just purely animal than blame Bryan Singer for that, because Ratner was just staying true to the first two films. I liked X3 and am interested in seeing X4.