AIDS: Genetically Engineered?

[Kevin Lockard]

I was reading over a few topics on another forum and came upon something that said thet AIDS might be genetically engineered. Apparently, this kind of stuff has been "conspiracy" rumors since the 80s for Americans. Okay, I'm American and I've NEVER heard anything like this. I'm not using that as a blanket to try and claim it's untrue or anything like that, just that I was rather shocked to see this. I read through it twice already - I've have to read through it a few more times before I start to digest everything properly and such. However, just thought I'd post this and see what others think:


In the early 70s, Henry Kissinger released this secret memo to the National Security Memorandum, this is just a part of the memo that talks about the future government created virus we know today as the AIDS virus. "depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the Third World."

The next document was from the US Senate Library. It is a record of the Appropriations Hearing that was held in July of 1969, where the Department of the Army specifically requested and received $10 million to develop "a synthetic biological agent that would impair or destroy the human immune system." This is from the US Senate Library.

The World Health Organization went into Central Africa in 1972 -- into an area that is known as the "AIDS Belt" -- and administered a smallpox vaccination to several thousands of Africans. This event was followed immediately by the first outbreak of AIDS on this planet -- a remarkable coincidence -- that was noted as a Front Page Headline in the London Times, but has never even been mentioned in the US Media -- never even mentioned.

Another startling fact that was never mentioned in the mainstream media -- the Hepatitis B Vaccine that was given to several thousand male homosexuals in New York and San Francisco in 1978. The fact is, every single person who received that vaccine contracted AIDS -- every single one of them -- without exception. That is what the first American victims of AIDS all had in common.

Also, an official government report from the Royal Society of Medicine in Great Britain, states unequivocally that "saliva and blood are vastly more infectious than genital secretions," and "that AIDS meets none of the criterion of a venereal disease. That despite the misrepresentations of the American Medical Establishment and the American Government, AIDS is not primarily a sexually transmitted disease."

This virus is a BOVINE virus, not a "monkey" virus. AIDS is simply a man-made virus that was created to deal with the "problem" of over population. AIDS was deliberately created and implemented by the United States Government -- more specifically by certain individuals, most notably Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and George Herbert Walker Bush, who was the Director of the CIA at that time, when the Kissinger Memorandum was adopted by the National Security Council.

Here is the bottom line of it all.

AIDS is a manmade disease;
AIDS is not a homosexual disease;
AIDS is not a venereal disease;
AIDS can be carried by mosquitos;
Condoms will not prevent AIDS;
There are a least six different AIDS viruses loose in the world;
There will never be a vaccine cure.




This is the House of Common Social Services Committee, and this is a document prepared by the Royal Society of Medicine. You can not get more official than this in Great Britain. And this is what they say:

"The scale of the deceptions and misinformation perpetrated by virologists, clinicians and editors of scientific and medical journals about the infectivity of genital secretions, compared with that of blood and saliva, has been astonishing. In the presence of a new, lethal virus, spreading amongst people, for which no vaccine or cure is in sight, every person would assume that scientists have been working day and night to verify how it is transmitted. On the contrary, having assumed for a variety of motives that AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease like syphilis or gonorrhea, a negligible research effort has gone into the critical matter of transmission. A few preliminary papers were published and their findings have been repeatedly quoted as showing the opposite of what they actually showed. When this was pointed out in letters to the editors of American medical and scientific journals, publication has been refused. No attempt has been made to check or double-check the findings in other laboratories, or to rectify published errors."

"As far as it goes, the tiny research effort into infectivity of bodily fluids indicates that saliva is far more infectious than genital secretions, but that blood is vastly more infectious than either. Consequently, the idea that condoms can have any significant effect on the spread of AIDS in a nation is utterly preposterous."

This is the Royal Society of Medicine in Great Britain. I'll continue...

"Governments all over the world are spending millions of pounds [dollars], advising their citizens to prevent AIDS by using condoms on the basis of MANIFESTLY FRAUDULENT misrepresentation of scientific evidence."

You know, if they're going to spend millions of your tax dollars on televised warnings, don't you think they ought to include cuts and wounds and saliva and breathing it into the lungs, which apparently happens -- 16,000 health care workers are infected by AIDS. Ask them. Ask the ones who believe their superiors at the AMA about the costs of ignorance. You want the truth about AIDS? Get outside the American Blackout. Get outside the boundaries of the so-called "freest nation on Earth."

Back in the 1960's you know, we used to feel sorry for the Russian people, because we knew they weren't getting the whole picture. We wondered what that must be like. My god, it was hard to imagine. Well, now we know. Now we know exactly what it's like, to live in a society where crucial information -- information critical to our survival is being controlled and suppressed by the government.

The following is a transcript of the DOD1970 appropriations report mentioned above...



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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970

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UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY
HEARINGS
BEFORE A
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION



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SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
George H. Mahon, Texas, Chairman

ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Florida GLENARD P LIPSCOMB, California
JAMIE D. WHITTEN, Mississippi WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio
GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona
DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin
JOHN M. SLACK, West Virginia
JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
FRANK E. EVANS, Colorado



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PART 5
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY



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PAGE 129
TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969

SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS

There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.

Mr. Sikes. Are we doing any work in that field?
Dr. MacArthur. We are not.
Mr. Sikes. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?
Dr. MacArthur. Certainly not lack of interest.
Mr. Sikes. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be, the time and the cost involved?
Dr. MacArthur. We will be very happy to.

(The information follows: )

The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following observations:

1. All biological agents up to the present time are representatives of naturally occuring disease, and are thus known by scientists throughtout the world. They are easily available to qualified scientists for research, either for offensive or defensive purposes.

2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.

3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.

4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientists in the field, almost all are in univerity laboratories, and they are generally adequately supported from sources other that DOD. However, it was considered possible to initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of Sciences - National Research Council (NAS-NRC).

The matter was discussed with the NAS-NRC, and tentative plans were made to initiate the program. However, decreasing funds in CB, growing criticism of the CB program, and our reluctance to involve the NAS-NRC in such a controversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years.

It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of massive killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientific knowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of the ways it could be done, there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures. Should an enemy develop it there is little doubt that this is an important area of potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequate research program.



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In 1970, they were given their ten million dollars.

Although decades have passed and untold billions have been spent in research, CANCER is still with us, the second major cause of death in America.

The most dreaded fear that all oncologists (cancer doctors), virologists and immunologists live with is that some day CANCER in one form or another will become a contagious disease, transferable from one person to another.

AIDS has now made that fear a reality and if you think you're safe because you're not gay or promiscuous, or because you're not sexually active, then you had better watch this videotape very carefully and then watch it again and again if necessary, until you fully understand what Dr. Strecker is telling you as he takes you step by step and shows you how this dreaded disease was actually:

PREDICTED...
REQUESTED...
CREATED...
DEPLOYED...

And now threatens the very existence of mankind because

IT WORKS!

THE SCARIEST PART

The most dreaded fear that all oncologists (cancer doctors), virologists, and immunologists live with is that some day CANCER, in one form or another, will become a contagious disease, transferable from one person to another. AIDS has now made fear a reality. If you think you are safe because you are not gay or promiscuous, or because you are not sexually active, then you must watch "The Strecker Memorandum" very carefully.

IF YOU PLAN TO HAVE SEX TONIGHT YOU HAD BETTER READ THIS

The most common misconception being foisted upon us right now concerns sexually active Americans. We are told that if a man uses a condom the transference of the deadly virus is virtually eliminated. Nothing could be further from the truth. Of the body fluids that the AIDS virus is found in, semen is the least. As a matter of fact, in every single study ever published on the subject, no one has found a significant amount in anyone's semen. It just isn't there in huge numbers. There is usually only about one virus per milliliter, a statistically irrelevant amount. One copious ejaculation might produce only one or two viruses. This is substantiated in the medical literature. But, just for argument's sake, let's say all the medical studies are wrong. Let's pretend that there are countless millions of AIDS viruses in the ejaculation. Are you aware that condoms are riddled with microscopic or larger holes? Studies show that even the smallest holes found in condoms are two to ten times larger than the AIDS virus. It's like shooting a golf ball through a basketball hoop. Condoms have not, will not, and cannot prevent AIDS.

THOUSANDS ALREADY DEAD

Fifty thousand Americans have already died because they didn't know the truth about AIDS. Between twelve and fifteen million Americans have already been infected. One in 60 babies born in New York City is infected; one in 300 college students in America is infected; one in 20 aliens applying for amnesty is infected, including men, women and children. These are just some of the facts you are not likely to hear about from the media.

THINK OF YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS...NOW THINK OF THEM DEAD

The number of AIDS infected people is doubling approximately every 12 months, and in some areas even sooner. With twelve to fifteen million Americans carrying the virus, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see how long we have here in the U.S. Africa has, conservatively, 75 million infected; some estimates double that. Brazil as a country is in serious jeopardy because all through the 1970's they were buying their blood supply from Africa. On top of that, the World Health Organization conducted a large scale small pox vaccination program there in the 1970's (for the full implications of that see "The Strecker Memorandum"). Southern Japan has about 30 percent infected with HTLV I, the leukemia causing virus (although you will never hear about that on TV). Russia is now reporting AIDS as a problem and no one can enter Russia permanently without a current negative blood test for AIDS. Cuba has already set up concentration camps for AIDS infected and they are full (you won't see that on TV either). Haiti of course is ravaged by AIDS; more than 15 percent of the people infected and getting worse every day. And so it goes. Virtually every nation on earth with few exceptions (Iran is one) is reporting a growing problem. It's on every continent, every subcontinent, and every island chain, Atlantic and Pacific. So why won't the media or government tell you these things? Is it too controversial for you to handle? Are you going to panic?

IS THERE ANY HOPE?

Yes and no. NO, if you are waiting for the government to create a magic bullet. Part of the problem is that all the various AIDS viruses are "recombinant retroviruses." Very simply, that means they have the ability to recombine with the genes of any cell they enter and the offspring or new viruses they form are different from the parent viruses. HTLV III alone (that's the most common American AIDS virus) has the mathematical ability to change itself 9,000x9,000x9,000x9000 times (which is 9,000 to the fourth power). The common cold recombines much less frequently and we haven't found a cure for it after a hundred years. Besides, does it make much sense to entrust the cure for AIDS to the same people that may have created it? YES, there is hope if Dr. Strecker and a growing number of realistic scientists are correct in looking at alternative, nonallopathic, non drug modalities based on Raman spectroscopy. In fact many experiments are going on now that offer great promise. Unfortunately, our government takes a dim view of any type of treatment for any type of disease let alone AIDS that does not conform to its rigid rules for acceptance, registration, and legalization. Of course the FDA would definitely like to see an allopathic drug treatment or cure presented by an ethical drug company or university. Well, we don't think that's going to happen. Because of this attitude, much experimentation in America must go underground, underfunded, or out of the country entirely.

IGNORANCE IS BLISS, OR IS IT SUICIDE?

We all know it is easier for a king to have a lie believed than a beggar to spread the truth. Well, we are spreading the truth about AIDS. Unfortunately, it isn't pretty. But the fact is you are not being told the truth by the government or the so-called AIDS experts. The media, for reasons of their own, will not present information contradicting the official propaganda. So you can choose to go along with the same people who gave us brain cancer (SV40 virus) as a result of their contaminated polio vaccines in the early 1960's; a polio like disease from their contaminated Swine Flu vaccine in the 1970's; and AIDS from their smallpox and hepatitis B vaccines; or, you can at least make yourself aware of the clear and present dangers that we all face.

[jolanar]

Source?

[Kevin Lockard]

Well, the guy on the other forum says he took it from various websites and articles, mainly stuff from the actual documents. If you read it carefully, you'll see that most of it is from actual U.S documents or congress/hearings.

[Thrizzle]

So basically what im reading is that HIV/AIDS is transmitted through saliva AND condoms dont prevent it? If that were true, we'd all have AIDS by now.

[EVILxxx]

If AIDS is a bovine virus, then why do monkeys contract it in the wild?

[Annie Hall]

Then how come when someone with AIDs has sex with a condom with someone without it, they don't contract it?

[Jamesadin]

I've also heard this conspiracy before, and Im noticing Mars-sized holes in this theory.

[Vong]

I thought AIDS was contracted by someone butt-fucking a monkey?

[jolanar]

Originally posted by God of Cinema
If you read it carefully, you'll see that most of it is from actual U.S documents or congress/hearings.

Or so they say. Anyone can right something official looking, say it's official and call it proof.

Anyone else notice the most glaring reason this is wrong? The millions of doctors worldwide who continue to knowingly outright lie to their patients at the cost of their patients health. Something that goes against oaths that all doctor's must take and that most doctors truly do believe in.

[Lynn7]

It sounds like conspiracy theory stuff. Anyway, AIDS is mostly preventable. The spread of it is mostly related to people having unsafe sex with multiple partners and of course it is spread through needle use. There is a big push now for sex eduacation in Africa (monogamy), and in the Gay communties there have been reports that there has been a return to unsafe sexual practice because people don't die from AiDs as much so young men aren't taking the disease as seriously as they used to.

On the Today show today they said that they have found that men who are adult circumcised are much less likely to get AIDS then men who are not circumcised. Unfortunately, this adult circumcision does not seem to help with the gay men.

[darchangel]

Originally posted by Lynn7
It sounds like conspiracy theory stuff. Anyway, AIDS is mostly preventable. The spread of it is mostly related to people having unsafe sex with multiple partners and of course it is spread through needle use. There is a big push now for sex eduacation in Africa (monogamy), and in the Gay communties there have been reports that there has been a return to unsafe sexual practice because people don't die from AiDs as much so young men aren't taking the disease as seriously as they used to.

On the Today show today they said that they have found that men who are adult circumcised are much less likely to get AIDS then men who are not circumcised. Unfortunately, this adult circumcision does not seem to help with the gay men.

If by 'monogamy' you mean 'trying to teach men not to rape infants and children' then sure.

Apparently there's some old wives' tale in some African countries that says if you have sex with a virgin, you're cured of HIV. I think it was last year that an African man arrested for raping his girlfriend's one month old daughter. Disgusting.

And trust me, people still take this disease seriously, gay or otherwise. It's getting a lot easier to treat, but it's still a major threat, especially if you don't rigidly stick to your meds.



~darchangel~

[Brando @$$ Fat]

I'm a conspiracy nut, but none of this really seems valid. I mean, if they wanted to control population, then they've done a really shitty job. Since 1950, the world population has gone up by 4 billion people. If they were aiming to lower the population, and AIDS would have probably been originally targeted at homosexuals, then they wouldn't really have taken out that many people. I think like one out of every ten people are gay, so they'd only control a small part of the population.

Plus, if this was a man-made virus, wouldn't it be easier for scientists to find a cure for it?

[BubbaStrangelove]

There is really no reason to believe either way if AIDS was created by man or not as we have no proof either way. If it was created by man, I think it would have been more of an "Oops" type thing than a giant plot.

Governments have a history of making people sick for whatever reason. We know that much.

Plus, if this was a man-made virus, wouldn't it be easier for scientists to find a cure for it?

It seems like it, but I think it could go either way. What do we have to compare it to?

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Vong
I thought AIDS was contracted by someone butt-fucking a monkey?

I've been led to belive this as well. How terribly vexing...

[ilovemovies]

Hahahaha! I've never heard of this conspiracy though I have heard of a conspiracy theory in which the government is trying to reduce population through the food people eat.