Total Recall: Dream or Not a Dream

[john_rambo]

What do you guys think.

Spoiler Alert (To the 5 people on the planet that havent seen this movie)



At the end after he saves the planet. He says he hopes it isnt a dream. Then it goes to credits. What do you guys think do you think this was all real, and Rekall restored his memory? Or do you think it was all what he paid for at Rekall.

I think that it was all real. His "wife" kept talking him out of going to mars. His friend at work said not to go to rekall. Then stabbed him in the back. So he must have known something. He obviously remembered something about mars cause of the event at the end of the movie. Those are a few hints pointing to this, but what do you guys think?

[bigred760]

It was real. It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think the whole point of the first half was to make it seem like it was a dream. But as the movie continues, it's more and more apparent that it's real and really really screwed up.

[Shockwave]

Its been years since ive seen this, but i always thought it was real.

[crodger]

Dream. If you notice that when he goes to rekall, and he describes how he likes women. He gives a description and the chick he runs into later comes up on the screen. If it was real, the chances of rekall having the same spanish chick on their database would be more than a coincidence. Anyway, I think the Verhoeven said it was a dream.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by crodger
Dream. If you notice that when he goes to rekall, and he describes how he likes women. He gives a description and the chick he runs into later comes up on the screen. If it was real, the chances of rekall having the same spanish chick on their database would be more than a coincidence. Anyway, I think the Verhoeven said it was a dream.

The Rekal staff begin the memory-implanting procedure — and uncover a different and older set of suppressed memories revealing that the unbelievable memories they are about to insert are already there and are true.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by crodger
Dream. If you notice that when he goes to rekall, and he describes how he likes women. He gives a description and the chick he runs into later comes up on the screen. If it was real, the chances of rekall having the same spanish chick on their database would be more than a coincidence. Anyway, I think the Verhoeven said it was a dream.

He never said it was a dream, but . . . according to imdb.com trivia section:

SPOILER: The final scene fading into white is intentionally done by Paul Verhoeven to leave some question marks regarding whether everything was a dream and Quaid got lobotomized in the end.

[therealjohng]

It's a dream.


Badass fucking movie either way with a killer main theme.

[Tony_Montana]

If you notice at the start one of the technicians says to himself...


SPOILERS:





"Blue sky on Mars, that's a new one"






END SPOILERS

or something to that effect, predicting the ending of the movie and implying it was all his dream. However if it was, when he woke up wouldn't the illusion all be shattered by him finding out that Mars is the same as it was before he left?

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by Tony_Montana


or something to that effect, predicting the ending of the movie and implying it was all his dream. However if it was, when he woke up wouldn't the illusion all be shattered by him finding out that Mars is the same as it was before he left?

It probably wouldnt matter once he woke up. Memories arent always 100% accurate. Like when you get a little drunk and have sex with someone who you think is hot. You tell all your friends about it and tell them how hot she is but you run into her two weeks later and it was really your grandmother.

[Cronos]

first time i saw it i thought it was all real but after watching it two more times it was all what he paid for at Rekall

[teenkiller]

I haven't seen the movie in about a dozen years so I can't really say. However I just bought the Total Recall game for the NES and it SUCKS ASS! I mean seriously. A prime example of why movie to game translations have bad reputations. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Cronos]

Originally posted by teenkiller
However I just bought the Total Recall game for the NES and it SUCKS ASS!

hehe, that reminds me i have a hand held LCD game of Total Recall, used to play it for hours, really basic but fun game

[JJFlamingo]

I'd have to say real...

[Dom Shady]

I think it's real

[john_rambo]

the lady matched up with him though because he told them exactly what she was like thats why she matched up. He was describing the lady exactly. I think they actually intentionally left clues to both sides tho

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Mentiroso
It probably wouldnt matter once he woke up. Memories arent always 100% accurate. Like when you get a little drunk and have sex with someone who you think is hot. You tell all your friends about it and tell them how hot she is but you run into her two weeks later and it was really your grandmother.

I have a hot grandma though.

[john_rambo]

OK... wow... I guess that last comment makes sense on a total recall thread in some way... wow... lol

[smok3h]

Real.

[JoBlo]

I watched it again the other night and I gotta admit, when you watch the first scene in which Ahnuld goes to REKALL to get the implants, a LOT of what they say actually ends up happening to him, particularly the BRUNETTE CHICK they show on the screen as a "part of his dream package". Of course, the shot is of Rachel Ticotin, who ends up being his "real love"? Hard to say.

Anyway, watching that scene, it seems as though everything after it was a dream, but I think it could go either way. Kinda like AMERICAN PSYCHO...

[therealjohng]

SEE YOU AT THE PARTEEEE RICHTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Derek237]

I don't really have an opinion since it's kind of obvious that the entire deal is that it could be either way and it's up to the audience member to decided whether it's one or the other. It actually pisses me off that they had to be so wishy washy. But hey, how bout that three-titted girl? Never gets old.

[redorblue01]

I don't even know anything about Maa(r)s!!!!

[john_rambo]

"SCREWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!"
people dont get the sophisticated humor in these arnold puns... like in this one he in fact screws something in the dude as he says it. lol

[crodger]

Originally posted by bigred760
He never said it was a dream, but . . . according to imdb.com trivia section:

Oops. I thought he said it on the commentary on the dvd.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by crodger
Oops. I thought he said it on the commentary on the dvd.

Could be . . . on the trivia page, it says he did it delibarately. Maybe even he doesn't know.

[God of War]

No idea.

[yorrick brown]

On the special edition DVD commentary by director Paul Verhoeven, he states that using Arnold as opposed to others who had been considered (Richard Dreyfuss, Patrick Swayze) leans more towards the film being real, as audiences would not want Arnold in an action film that turned out to only be a dream.

In an interview with Starlog magazine, Schwarzenegger stressed the challenge of acting in the film, "Because you're not coming in with the same character that you're going out with. Hauser's an interesting character, but Quaid's just this big program..." Schwarzenegger's reference to Quaid as a 'program,' an unreal personality designed to hide Hauser, suggests that the events and revelations on Mars were real.

One last idea (also from the DVD commentary) that would indicate that the story was not simply a figment of the protagonist's imagination is broached when director Verhoeven and star Schwarzenegger discuss how they wanted to do a sequel (which later became Minority Report), using Quaid as the hero of a firm that uses psychics (Martian mutants brought back to Earth for the proposed Verhoeven/Schwarzenegger sequel, Precogs in the Steven Spielberg/Tom Cruise film) to solve crimes before they happen. If the events on Mars in the film hadn't been real it would be impossible to have Quaid star in a sequel.

Early on in the film it is suggested that if one's mind cannot adjust to the
In the end Verhoeven states quite clearly in the special edition DVD commentary (on which Schwarzenegger also comments) that Quaid may indeed be on the table at Rekall living out a fantasy. He points out that the imagery on the screen at Rekall show the alien machine, the girl of his dreams that he asked for and a blue sky over Mars. Verhoven points this out as Quaid is going to sleep. When Quaid/Hauser is confronted by his wife & the Rekall spokesman, Verhoven is quick to point out that the spokesman goes on to detail the entire second half of the movie. Verhoven also says that the movie fades to white instead of the normal fade-to-black due to the fact that Quaid may be about to be lobotomized by the Rekall doctors at that point. Of course, Quaid himself notes that he dreamt about Melina before ever going to Rekall, which is true: in the first scene of the movie he has a dream in which he is climbing on the surface of the planet in a protective space suit, the glass helmet of which later breaks, turning his dream into a nightmare. He is climbing with a companion, but it is not Lori, whom he wakes up next to, but Melina. On the commentary Schwarzenegger disagrees with Verhoeven on the meaning of the ending

[john_rambo]

Who really believes that those 2 didnt agree to argue about the meaning at the end... only ADDING to the question

[JJFlamingo]

Originally posted by yorrick brown
On the special edition DVD commentary by director Paul Verhoeven, he states that using Arnold as opposed to others who had been considered (Richard Dreyfuss, Patrick Swayze) leans more towards the film being real, as audiences would not want Arnold in an action film that turned out to only be a dream.

In an interview with Starlog magazine, Schwarzenegger stressed the challenge of acting in the film, "Because you're not coming in with the same character that you're going out with. Hauser's an interesting character, but Quaid's just this big program..." Schwarzenegger's reference to Quaid as a 'program,' an unreal personality designed to hide Hauser, suggests that the events and revelations on Mars were real.

One last idea (also from the DVD commentary) that would indicate that the story was not simply a figment of the protagonist's imagination is broached when director Verhoeven and star Schwarzenegger discuss how they wanted to do a sequel (which later became Minority Report), using Quaid as the hero of a firm that uses psychics (Martian mutants brought back to Earth for the proposed Verhoeven/Schwarzenegger sequel, Precogs in the Steven Spielberg/Tom Cruise film) to solve crimes before they happen. If the events on Mars in the film hadn't been real it would be impossible to have Quaid star in a sequel.

Early on in the film it is suggested that if one's mind cannot adjust to the
In the end Verhoeven states quite clearly in the special edition DVD commentary (on which Schwarzenegger also comments) that Quaid may indeed be on the table at Rekall living out a fantasy. He points out that the imagery on the screen at Rekall show the alien machine, the girl of his dreams that he asked for and a blue sky over Mars. Verhoven points this out as Quaid is going to sleep. When Quaid/Hauser is confronted by his wife & the Rekall spokesman, Verhoven is quick to point out that the spokesman goes on to detail the entire second half of the movie. Verhoven also says that the movie fades to white instead of the normal fade-to-black due to the fact that Quaid may be about to be lobotomized by the Rekall doctors at that point. Of course, Quaid himself notes that he dreamt about Melina before ever going to Rekall, which is true: in the first scene of the movie he has a dream in which he is climbing on the surface of the planet in a protective space suit, the glass helmet of which later breaks, turning his dream into a nightmare. He is climbing with a companion, but it is not Lori, whom he wakes up next to, but Melina. On the commentary Schwarzenegger disagrees with Verhoeven on the meaning of the ending

Thanks sweetie. As usual you explained everything perfectly...

[yorrick brown]

its from wikipedia

[God of War]

Still no idea

[crodger]

Originally posted by yorrick brown
its from wikipedia

Even so, it saved me the time of looking at it myself.