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  #401  
Old 01-09-2008, 10:27 AM
Man, that'd suck being near a place where a UFC PPV was being held and not being able to go....I live in atlantic Canada, we get NOTHING around here...though there are rumors that the UFC PPV with the GSP, and Serra fight are coming to Montreal. I am so fucking there, if that's the case.
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  #402  
Old 01-09-2008, 11:23 AM
While it's not confirmed to be in Montreal, Matt Serra has publicly stated he'll be ready so I'm sure Dana White will be pushing his hardest to have GSP win his belt back in Canada. UFC is also trying to get a Cinco De Mayo PPV in Mexico City, likely to feature fighters like Tito Ortiz and Roger Huerta. I'd like to see more PPV's outside of Las Vegas. Those casino event center hold very few people. For craps sake there was only 10,000 people to see Liddell-Silva. If they put that fight in Brazil it would have sold 10x that much.
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  #403  
Old 01-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Okay kids, this weekend, UFC 80 Rapid Fire...predictions?

Gonzaga -vs- Werdum: I have Gonzaga on this one
Penn -vs- Stevenson: I'd like to say Steveson, but gotta go with Penn
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  #404  
Old 01-14-2008, 05:39 PM
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Okay kids, this weekend, UFC 80 Rapid Fire...predictions?

Gonzaga -vs- Werdum: I have Gonzaga on this one
Penn -vs- Stevenson: I'd like to say Steveson, but gotta go with Penn
gonzaga vs. werdum-i'm probably leaning a bit more towards gonzaga in this one. pretty much on the basis of recent performances. on the other hand werdum already has a win over gonzaga, but it was by tko from strikes which isn't his style at all. if gonzaga comes in in shape and doesn't gas he should win, but if it gets into the third round and gonzaga gets worn down werdum could pull off a sub.

penn vs. stevenson. bj by rear naked choke round 2. it's an ok match up, stevenson is kind of like penn style wise(bj's striking is alot better though) penn's jiu jitsu is pretty much incomparable to anyone else in the ufc lightweight division. joe will put up a good fight in the first round but i think bj will get to him in the second and win by sub.
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  #405  
Old 01-14-2008, 10:41 PM
Gonzaga and Penn come out on top. Look for a Gonzaga vs Nogeira match down the road.
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  #406  
Old 01-15-2008, 11:26 AM
I don't know if I've mentioned this before...but I really don't like Rashad Evans...I think he squeaks by with the bare minimum of talent, and should have lost the decisions against Tito, and Bisping...Anyway, I don't like him: And I came across this on Sherdog, which I laughed at for like 20 minutes.


Remember when Matt Hughes said he didn't like Rashad because of his showboating? Well I maintain that Rashad wasn't showboating, he was gassed, and was acting like a fucking retard, because he had no idea what to do given that situation...man I hate Rashad.
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  #407  
Old 01-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Rashad's luck will run out. He's rumored to be fighting Thiago Silva in May who will expose him for the overrated piece of shit he is.
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  #408  
Old 01-15-2008, 12:16 PM
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I don't know if I've mentioned this before...but I really don't like Rashad Evans...I think he squeaks by with the bare minimum of talent, and should have lost the decisions against Tito, and Bisping...Anyway, I don't like him: And I came across this on Sherdog, which I laughed at for like 20 minutes.


Remember when Matt Hughes said he didn't like Rashad because of his showboating? Well I maintain that Rashad wasn't showboating, he was gassed, and was acting like a fucking retard, because he had no idea what to do given that situation...man I hate Rashad.
i'm not a huge rashad fan either. in all reality he did lose the decision to tito it was tito's fence grab that cost him a point and which made the result a draw. i think he did beat bisping though, i'm not fan of bisping either(his gift decision against hamill and shitty attitude after didn't help). to me rashad is more complete than bisping, bisping has good strikes and decent bjj. rashad has excellent wrestling and ok strikes. so imo if you compare the two rashad comes out by a bare minimum. i do think bisping has done the right thing by moving to middleweight. i'd like to see rashad face somebody with a good sprawl just to see how he does when he can't rely on his wrestling so much.
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  #409  
Old 01-15-2008, 01:50 PM
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Rashad's luck will run out. He's rumored to be fighting Thiago Silva in May who will expose him for the overrated piece of shit he is.
I cannot wait to see Rashad -vs- Thiago...Thiago is going to beat him like a redheaded step-son.
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  #410  
Old 01-15-2008, 02:15 PM
Rashad > Tito/Bisping

Everyone else > Rashad...

Its like you say, he does get by on the bare minimum of talent, but what does that say about a guy like Tito who stooped as low as to go racist ( a classless act) in pre fight talk, and still couldn't do anything to phase him? Tito is supposed to be one of the greats, but he's really just a piece of shit who ducked all the good fighters he could as he held onto his little title.
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  #411  
Old 01-15-2008, 03:04 PM
Tito was once a great fighter, but back, neck, and knee surgery will destroy anyone. He is washed up and still hung with a very young wrestler. I will say that Rashad deserved that victory. If you say Tito lost because he held the fence and lost a point, what would have happened if Tito didnt hold the fence? He would have been taken down and who knows where it would have gone from there. I dont like Rashad and when he fights a complete fighter he'll be dealt his first loss. With the LHW division stacked the way it is you can only run from competition for so long. Bisping should do well at MW, he was an out of shape overweight LHW. Too bad Anderson Silva's in that division too.
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  #412  
Old 01-15-2008, 07:59 PM
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Tito was once a great fighter, but back, neck, and knee surgery will destroy anyone. He is washed up and still hung with a very young wrestler. I will say that Rashad deserved that victory. If you say Tito lost because he held the fence and lost a point, what would have happened if Tito didnt hold the fence? He would have been taken down and who knows where it would have gone from there. I dont like Rashad and when he fights a complete fighter he'll be dealt his first loss. With the LHW division stacked the way it is you can only run from competition for so long. Bisping should do well at MW, he was an out of shape overweight LHW. Too bad Anderson Silva's in that division too.
true enough about the tito fence grab, but you could also say that if time hadn't run out in the 2nd round rashad could have been choked out, tito had that guillotine locked in tight. bisping will do alright i think at middleweight, i see him losing to anderson silva, dan henderson, rich franklin and quite possibly yushin okami though.
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  #413  
Old 01-20-2008, 02:33 PM
Well Gonzaga made me look like an idiot, but I knew BJ would come through and annihilate Joe Stevenson. BJ is now going to face Sean Sherk in May and Werdum will probably get the first shot at the Nogeuira/Sylvia winner. I'd really like to see Liddell vs Machida but it looks like Tito Ortiz will be fighting Lyoto Machida. Not sure who that leaves for Chuck, maybe Shogun?
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  #414  
Old 01-20-2008, 05:08 PM
I figured Gonzaga was going to lose, though to his credit he gave Werdum a run for his money with those freakin' leg kicks. Fucking ouch!

And even though I was pulling for BJ (haha... pulling for BJ...), I thought Joe would've put up a better fight then he did. Wasn't expecting such a beating.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:45 AM
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Well Gonzaga made me look like an idiot, but I knew BJ would come through and annihilate Joe Stevenson. BJ is now going to face Sean Sherk in May and Werdum will probably get the first shot at the Nogeuira/Sylvia winner. I'd really like to see Liddell vs Machida but it looks like Tito Ortiz will be fighting Lyoto Machida. Not sure who that leaves for Chuck, maybe Shogun?
from what i'm hearing they might be setting up a chuck vs. jardine rematch. i think machida vs. chuck would probably not be an exciting fight and almost a guaranteed loss for chuck, they're both counter strikers and machida is very elusive, i could see machida winning a unanimous decision.
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  #416  
Old 01-21-2008, 01:25 PM
I hate rematches so quickly, I think Jardine is ahead of Chuck on listy of contenders and should fight Machida for number one contendership. If the UFC gives Chuck a rematch so quickly its just saying to Jardine "you got lucky and were gonna give our guy a chance to redeem himself." I think Machida deserves the shot before Forrest, but if you cant be funny you cant get a title shot.
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  #417  
Old 01-21-2008, 02:25 PM
I don't think that Machida is even on the list of contenders just yet. I think that there are sooo many in the LHW division now, that someone should have a more impressive W/L record in the UFC before getting that; Look at people like:
Alessio Sakara (16-6-1)
Wanderlei Silva (31-8-1) - yeah I know he lost to Liddell
Thiago Silva (11-0-0)
Chuck Liddell (21-5-0)
Dan Henderson (22-5-0)
and as much as I don't like him:
Forrest Griffin (15-4-0)

As far as I'm concerned, records speak for fighters, and I know some of these guys lost their last fights, and some I don't think deserve their shot (Griffin), but I think that if you're going to fight for the Light Heavyweight title, you should have a really impressive fight record, and even in the cases of some, you should have more than one fight in the UFC EVEN with your impressive record. I like Rampage Jackson, but do I think that he deserved the LHW title shot after ONE fight in the UFC, no. Do I think he's a really awesome LHW champion, yes... I dunno, bottom line for me, is that you should put in some time, and a few fights in the UFC before being a contender for the top prize in ANY weight division.
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  #418  
Old 01-21-2008, 03:48 PM
How can you say Machida is undeserving and then talk about impressive records??? Is 12-0, 4-0 in the UFC, and destroying highly ranked Sokoudjou not an impressive record??? You have Thiago Silva who has fought lesser opponents and has one less win in the UFC! Alessio Sakara is 3-3 in the UFC and is dropping down to middleweight! Wanderlei Silva just lost his THIRD fight in a row, and is an unimpressive 1-3 in the UFC. Chuck Liddell lost two fights in a row, so with one win he gets a title shot!!! Dan Henderson was the last person to lose to Rampage and is now in the Middleweight division.
Forrest Griffin out of all the people on your list deserves the shot, he beat the #1 ranked LHW in the world, injured or not. I still think Jardine is ahead of Forrest, he KO'd Forrest in the first round and then beat Chuck up for 3 rounds. But to completely ignore Machida is ridiculous. Not only is he 12-0, but the guy looks almost invincible, he comes out of all his fights unscathed. And for Rampage getting a title shot so quick, Chuck Liddell asked for that fight in his quest to avenge all his losses.
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  #419  
Old 01-21-2008, 03:56 PM
And by the way, the list of fighters to decline fights with Machida continues to grow.
-Jason Lambert
-Keith Jardine
-Forrest Griffin
And the last to duck fighting Machida...Tito Ortiz.

Chuck Liddell wont duck anybody, give the winner a title shot.
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  #420  
Old 01-21-2008, 04:48 PM
You do bring up some good points, I hadn't seen Machida fight in the UFC before his bout with Sokoudjou, which is why I had assumed he'd only fought once...his list of people not wanting to fight him is impressive as well. As far as Forrest goes, I just don't like the guy, I think he has a bigger ego than Matt Hughes, and an air of cockiness about him.

Ortiz *was* good, now he's a joke...And I doubt highly that Liddell will ever get the LHW belt back.

I knew that Hendo was dropping to middleweight, but used him as an example. I didn't know that Sakara was dropping too.

Regardless, I still don't think Machida deserves a title shot yet. Is he in contention? possibly, but I don't think it's warranted yet.
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  #421  
Old 01-21-2008, 08:58 PM
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You do bring up some good points, I hadn't seen Machida fight in the UFC before his bout with Sokoudjou, which is why I had assumed he'd only fought once...his list of people not wanting to fight him is impressive as well. As far as Forrest goes, I just don't like the guy, I think he has a bigger ego than Matt Hughes, and an air of cockiness about him.

Ortiz *was* good, now he's a joke...And I doubt highly that Liddell will ever get the LHW belt back.

I knew that Hendo was dropping to middleweight, but used him as an example. I didn't know that Sakara was dropping too.

Regardless, I still don't think Machida deserves a title shot yet. Is he in contention? possibly, but I don't think it's warranted yet.
machida is the shit for real. he's 4-0 in the ufc, and prior to being in the ufc had win's over rich franklin (ko win) bj penn(decision) and stephan bonnar(not a great fighter but solid) i think he's stylistically the most well rounded fighter in the lhw division, and if given the opportunity will be the lhw champ by the years end.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:04 PM
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You do bring up some good points, I hadn't seen Machida fight in the UFC before his bout with Sokoudjou, which is why I had assumed he'd only fought once...his list of people not wanting to fight him is impressive as well. As far as Forrest goes, I just don't like the guy, I think he has a bigger ego than Matt Hughes, and an air of cockiness about him.

Ortiz *was* good, now he's a joke...And I doubt highly that Liddell will ever get the LHW belt back.

I knew that Hendo was dropping to middleweight, but used him as an example. I didn't know that Sakara was dropping too.

Regardless, I still don't think Machida deserves a title shot yet. Is he in contention? possibly, but I don't think it's warranted yet.
also one more thing why do you think forrest has such a big ego? imo he's never been anything but a self-effacing humble guy, he's never trash talked an opponent before or after a fight, and he's never over-hyped himself or his skills. not trashing your opinion just wondering why you think that.
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  #423  
Old 01-21-2008, 10:39 PM
http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=6048
Looks like Ortiz reconsidered...I think its somewhat of a bad fight for Machida, for one Ortiz will try to lay and pray him and he does Machida is suddenly off his hot streak, but even if Machida wins people will just say Ortiz is washed up. Either way, Tito's ego is bigger than his head, talking about he'll never get a title shot again because Dana White hates him. He'll never get a title shot again because he fights to a boring draw with the likes of Rashad Evans. Good riddens.
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  #424  
Old 01-24-2008, 03:21 PM
Anyone see Burkman/Swick? I thought that first round was awesome. Burkman came out with some crazy video game moves, but the fight slowly declined towards the finish.
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:30 PM
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Anyone see Burkman/Swick? I thought that first round was awesome. Burkman came out with some crazy video game moves, but the fight slowly declined towards the finish.
i watched it, thought it was a pretty lackluster fight on what was overall a pretty lackluster card. burkman should have just came out swinging after having his takedown's repeatedly stuffed. swick did the absolute bare minimum to win that fight, not sure how much of a facor if any he's gonna be at 170. imo one of the worst ultimate fight night's yet, the line up for the april ultimate fight night looks amazing though.
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:50 PM
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i watched it, thought it was a pretty lackluster fight on what was overall a pretty lackluster card. burkman should have just came out swinging after having his takedown's repeatedly stuffed. swick did the absolute bare minimum to win that fight, not sure how much of a facor if any he's gonna be at 170. imo one of the worst ultimate fight night's yet, the line up for the april ultimate fight night looks amazing though.
Who's on that card?

Yeah the overall show sucked, but that one round really had me going. I think Burkman got screwed in the end, but its true that going back to the takedown that wasn't working is what killed him ultimately.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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Who's on that card?

Yeah the overall show sucked, but that one round really had me going. I think Burkman got screwed in the end, but its true that going back to the takedown that wasn't working is what killed him ultimately.
confirmed fights so far are kenny florian vs. joe lauzon and stephan bonnar vs. matt hamill. soon to be confirmed karo parysian vs. thiago alves, clay guida vs. samy schiavo, spencer fisher vs. marcus aurelio, din thomas vs. josh neer, tommy speer vs. anthony johnson. pretty stacked card for an ultimate fight night.
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  #428  
Old 01-30-2008, 07:17 AM
UFC 83 is coming to Montreal on April 19!!

the main fight is Matt Serra -vs- Georges St.Pierre

I am so fucking going!!
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:11 PM
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confirmed fights so far are kenny florian vs. joe lauzon and stephan bonnar vs. matt hamill. soon to be confirmed karo parysian vs. thiago alves, clay guida vs. samy schiavo, spencer fisher vs. marcus aurelio, din thomas vs. josh neer, tommy speer vs. anthony johnson. pretty stacked card for an ultimate fight night.
You can add Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin to that list. It will be televised along with Bonnar/Hamill, Lauzon/Florian and Alves/Parysian
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:53 PM
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UFC 83 is coming to Montreal on April 19!!

the main fight is Matt Serra -vs- Georges St.Pierre

I am so fucking going!!
Rich Franklin is fighting Travis Lutter as well.
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:06 AM
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Rich Franklin is fighting Travis Lutter as well.
that fight was canceled. unfortunately franklin is injured and won't be back until summer, possibly june.
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  #432  
Old 02-01-2008, 04:02 PM
If you thought Chuck vs. Wanderlei was good this could be even better!!!
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=5604&zoneid=2

Shogun: "I will avenge Wanderlei's loss. I can strike with Chuck and I will beat him there, no problem.
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  #433  
Old 02-01-2008, 10:57 PM
I could hardly recognize Frank Mir at the weigh ins, he looks like he did 3-4 years ago. I'm definitely watching this, Mir and Minotauro by submission.
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  #434  
Old 02-02-2008, 06:47 PM
i know it was on for the US last night (saturday), and probs is still ongoing, but it aint on in the UK till tonight (sunday), so dont spoil it for me ok. my predicitons for the main event, well the one i am looking forward to the most.

frank mir vs. brock lesnar

- mir wins 2nd round (submission)

i really have a difficult time seeing lesnar taking mir down, it just dont look like it could happen
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Brock may have lost, but he still looked really good especially for this being only his second MMA match. The sheer dominance he showed pounding Mir down and the crowd being into him after the loss shows that he has potential as his inexperience showed and he got caught with the kneebar. I think he will be a big star for UFC once he works on dealing with submissions.

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  #436  
Old 02-03-2008, 12:07 AM
Great event overall, I saw everything I wanted. Wonder how the UFC feels now on passing Fedor Emilianeko for Brock Lesnar? Happy for Nogeuira and Frank Mir.
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:52 AM
omg, could u guys not have put a spoiler alert at least.

its ruined for me now, christ
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Spoiler alert? In the sports section???
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:23 AM
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Spoiler alert? In the sports section???
You can't be saying that sports can't be spoiled are you?
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Kinda sorta. I implied it for sure, but i guess it can be depending on the person...

But nonetheless, entering a thread dedicated to MMA and nothing but, it's pretty much a given that there are going to be people talking about the outcome of recent events, and knowing this, if you haven't seen the most recent event in MMA this thread is the LAST place you want to be in terms of said "spoiler content".

Just like how you shouldn't visit sherdog, or UFCjunkie, or MMAweekly... It's relatively the same thing in my opinion.

*shrugs shoulders*

Perhaps thats just me.
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