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BrundleROB · #**1481** 11-16-2009, 06:23 AM

Yeah, that's very true. If Fedor really wanted to fight the best of the best, he
would've signed with the UFC.

SL Dubbs · #**1482** 11-16-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofKings2525

I'm so tired of all the Fedor love. The dude has been ducking real competition (UFC) for years now and just recently could have signed a deal with the UFC and passed again... Because he doesn't want to put his legacy on the line. It's a shame we will never be able to see guys like Brock Lesnar destroy him with his size and power.

Following me around the sports Forum bringing the same recycled bullshit to my attention again? To win Brock cannot make even one tiny mistake, he has to fight perfectly. Fedor can win whenever.

Take a good long look at this

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Fedor 31 - 1 - 0

Lesnar 4 - 1 - 0

Anything else?

HurricanesR1 · #**1483** 11-16-2009, 02:11 PM

It's not Fedor's fault that he signed with Strikeforce. He is under contract with M-1 Global and they are the ones calling the shots. M-1 demanded co-promotions with the UFC and Dana White said NO WAY...and I don't blame him. Strikeforce agreed to co-promoting so they signed there.

Fedor isn't scared of any of the UFC's heavyweights or any other heavyweight fighters.

SL Dubbs · #**1484** 11-16-2009, 02:49 PM

From Meltzer's site

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Brock Lesnar is in extremely bad shape and there are questions as to whether he will ever fight again.

Lesnar, 32, is in far worse shape than he has been letting on. He went to Canada last week to try to get some rest, collapsed, and was rushed to the hospital. He has mono and also something else that he doesn't want to get out, and all we now is that he does not have cancer and he does not have AIDS. It is, however, extremely serious and he will not be fighting again for a long, long time, if he is able to fight again.

Dana White is heading to Minnesota tonight and will be working to get Lesnar to the Mayo Clinic or equivalent medical facility for treatment.

Also, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira has a staph infection and his fight with Cain Velasquez at UFC 108 is off. Nogueira will need an IV to hopefully get the infection out. He is also in bad shape.

With Lesnar out indefinitely, Shane Carwin will be undergoing knee surgery, so he will not be available to face Velasquez at UFC 108.

We can also report that Shane McMahon had a meeting at the UFC offices recently. Dana White, when asked for more information, responded, "No comment."

We will try to have more late tonight in an audio update, along with a play-by-play of tonight's show.

SL Dubbs · #**1485** 11-16-2009, 04:38 PM

Don't think it gets any worse from here on out for the HW division.

DunlopolnuD · #**1486** 11-17-2009, 04:06 AM

No shit, it's Velasquez and... well, Velasquez. Okay, Junior Dos Santos too, but he wasn't in the title picture quite yet. That's the only decent fight I see happening anytime soon for the HW's. Isn't Mir fighting Kongo or something? That really isn't interesting either.

Yeah, it's really bad.

SL Dubbs · #**1487** 11-17-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DunlopolnuD

No shit, it's Velasquez and... well, Velasquez. Okay, Junior Dos Santos too, but he wasn't in the title picture quite yet. That's the only decent fight I see happening anytime soon for the HW's. Isn't Mir fighting Kongo or something? That really isn't interesting either.

Yeah, it's really bad.

Carwins situation is an unknown thing as of now.

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Heavy.com has learned that, contrary to recent reports, Shane Carwin did not recently undergo knee surgery. We spoke with sources close to Carwin's camp, who indicated that the number-one contender for the heavyweight title is simply rehabbing his knee and did not undergo any surgical procedures.

Recently published reports indicated that Carwin had undergone knee surgery to fix an ailing knee while waiting for Brock Lesnar to recuperate from his bout with mononucleosis. Carwin did undergo an MRI, which came back as a grade II MCL strain. Carwin was told not to do any grappling for three weeks, which made him unavailable for UFC 108. He is available to fight on any card after UFC 108, but with Brock Lesnar out for an unknown amount of time, Carwin remains in limbo.

Regardless I think Cain vs. Carwin is perfect. That fight was suppose to happen to determine the number one contender, but when Brock was "back" sooner than expected they chose Carwin to fight him over Cain. Now that Brock can't fight, Cain and Carwin can still happen to determine the number one contender.

KingofKings2525 · #**1488** 11-17-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Fanatic

Following me around the sports Forum bringing the same recycled bullshit to my attention again?

Fedor 31 - 1 - 0

Lesnar 4 - 1 - 0

Anything else?

Following you? You're going to have to be more specific.. I don't really look at the names of other posters when I reply. If I have called you on something before it's probably because I disagree with you... and my knowledge of sports overall is most likely superior to yours. If you really feel the need to call my posts "recycled bullshit" feel free to PM with your insults. No need to do it on the board, child.

Fedor 31-1... 31 wins against who? Bums! Awesome clip you posted though; I've been forwarding that all day.

SL Dubbs · #**1489** 11-17-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofKings2525

Following you? You're going to have to be more specific.. I don't really look at the names of other posters when I reply. If I have called you on something before it's probably because I disagree with you...

If you disagree with a statement I make feel free at anytime to back it up with some supporting arguement rather than backing it up with the same bullshit I always dismantle your arguement with everytime.

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Originally Posted by KingofKings2525

and my knowledge of sports overall is most likely superior to yours. If you really feel the need to call my posts "recycled bullshit" feel free to PM with your insults. No need to do it on the board, child

Your knowledge of sports from what I have read is next to nothing so when I am telling you something that is any different look at it as me educating you on the subject. You seem to be the one taking it as a child.

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Originally Posted by KingofKings2525

Fedor 31-1... 31 wins against who? Bums! Awesome clip you posted though; I've been forwarding that all day.

Let's flip the question, though: Which of Lesnar's exploits and accomplishments leads you to believe that he can offer a challenge to someone like Fedor? Because as of right now he has defeated Frank Mir and that old guy in the cage.

Criminal Rock · #**1490** 11-17-2009, 06:45 PM

King of what again? The ignoramus?

KingofKings2525 · #**1491** 11-17-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Fanatic

If you disagree with a statement I make feel free at anytime to back it up with some supporting arguement rather than backing it up with the same bullshit I always dismantle your arguement with everytime.

Your knowledge of sports from what I have read is next to nothing so when I am telling you something that is any different look at it as me educating you on the subject. You seem to be the one taking it as a child.

Let's flip the question, though: Which of Lesnar's exploits and accomplishments leads you to believe that he can offer a challenge to someone like Fedor? Because as of right now he has defeated Frank Mir and that old guy in the cage.

Are you sure you don't have me confused with somebody else? Not sure where all of the agression is coming from?

Fedor is over rated and that will be his legacy... he will always be a question mark in the history books because he dodged real fighters. Too bad so sad, sorry... your hero runs from real fights.

The Lesnar argument seems to be mute now that you posted a story that he may never fight again so I can't really back it up. Though, if and when he fights again, I expect complete domination... and I expect it against real fighters in the UFC. Say it with me... r-e-a-l f-i-g-h-t-e-r-s i-n t-h t-h t-h-e U-F-C.

KingofKings2525 · #**1492** 11-17-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tai Mai Jew

King of what again? The ignoramus?

As usual, you add nothing to the conversation. Troll.

SL Dubbs · #**1493** 11-18-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofKings2525

Are you sure you don't have me confused with somebody else? Not sure where all of the agression is coming from?

Fedor is over rated and that will be his legacy... he will always be a question mark in the history books because he dodged real fighters. Too bad so sad, sorry... your hero runs from real fights.

The Lesnar argument seems to be mute now that you posted a story that he may never fight again so I can't really back it up. Though, if and when he fights again, I expect complete domination... and I expect it against real fighters in the UFC. Say it with me... r-e-a-l f-i-g-h-t-e-r-s i-n t-h t-h t-h-e U-F-C.

You seem to be getting quite defensive on the subject, unless it's some other ignorant poster that trolls the sports forum with a Kobe Bryant Av then no I think I have you nailed.

Fedor Has fought all bums?

Cro Cop-At the time he fought Fedor a top 10 HW
Nogueira-Another Top 10 HW at the time
Sylvia-UFC'S former HW champ in 36 seconds none the less
Matt Lindland-Far from A bum
Semmy Schilt-At the time was considerably a top HW but has fallen off as of late.
A roided out Randleman-How many other fighters can you see surviving that monstrous slam? and then turning around and slapping a kimura on randleman for the win.
Mark hunt-Walked right through him.

Ya all bums, those fuckers there.

These are a few of Fedor's accomplishments off the top of my head. Now I will repepeat my question, what has Lesnar done or accompolished to you that you would think he would pressent any kind of Challenge for Fedor the best fighter in the world? I will continue to sit here and educate you if that's what you want.

You obviously don't understand the business aspect of mma, The only issue is Dana's conflict with co-promotion by not co-promoting he is keeping Fedor out of the UFC.

HurricanesR1 · #**1494** 11-19-2009, 12:02 PM

MMA is starting to get really boring. I don't see very many good fighters out there that aren't champions.

TUF is a good example. Early on the show, there was a lot of talent out there that was unknown. Now, it's a bunch of regular guys trying to be MMA superstars, which they aren't.

If you take away Penn, GSP, A. Silva, and Fedor, the talent level is pretty balanced, but they're very average if you ask me.

Just look at the UFC's PPV headliners this year. Many of them have been total garbage.

Jackson vs. Jardine
Sanchez vs. Stevenson
Silva vs. Leites
Franklin vs. Silva
Couture vs. Vera
Ortiz vs. Griffin II....Anthony Johnson-Josh Koscheck co-headlining? Are you kidding me? This shouldn't be on PPV.

^I find those headliners to either be 1) garbage, 2) one-sided matchups, 3) unmeaninfgul

Even headliners like Evans-Machida with Hughes-Serra co-headling sucked. That whole Machida-Shogun card was boring as well.

There have only been a handful of good headliners:

St. Pierre vs. Penn II
Lesnar vs. Mir II/St. Pierre vs. Alves
Penn vs. Florian/Silva vs. Griffin

DunlopolnuD · #**1495** 11-20-2009, 03:12 AM

Where's DarkKnight? I told you Aldo would win the title!

I'll admit that when I said it, it was kind of a blind assumption (and didn't really think about how he matched up against Brown), but I just was completely impressed with what I had seen from Aldo, and man he didn't disappoint. I would really like to see Faber Vs. Aldo next.

Hurricane - For me, a fight is a fight. Whether it's a title fight or not, or it's supposed to be lopsided I still have fun watching them.

SL Dubbs · #**1496** 11-20-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricanesR1

MMA is starting to get really boring. I don't see very many good fighters out there that aren't champions.

That implies that the talent pool used to be better, which is quite untrue.

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Originally Posted by HurricanesR1

If you take away Penn, GSP, A. Silva, and Fedor, the talent level is pretty balanced, but they're very average if you ask me.

By what standard?

BrundleROB · #**1497** 11-22-2009, 12:13 AM

UFC 106: ORTIZ VS. GRIFFIN 2

should've been called

UFC 106: STUPID EXCUSES

I mean what with Tito's "Try fighting with a crack skull!"

And Koscheck's fake ass left eye 'injury'

Fuck Koscheck and Fuck Tito

BrundleROB · #**1498** 12-06-2009, 07:05 PM

Penn/Sanchez

will either go the distance, or BJ will submit Sanchez.
He will overwhelm him with the striking, take him down,
outwrestle him, and then submit him.

Kongo will outstrike Mir to the point where the ref has to
stop it. But of course, Mir will probably get lucky and pull
off a submission. He's not a striker. I don't care what anyone
thinks about how he was the first man to ever finish off Nogueira
or knocking out that hack Wes Sims, Mir cannot stand up.

SL Dubbs · #**1499** 12-11-2009, 11:08 PM

Penn, submission R3
Mir, submission R1
Florian, decision (hoping for Captain Caveman)
Fitch, decision
Buentello, KO R2

Gouveia, TKO R2
Wiman, submission R1
Hendricks, decision
Paul Harris, decision
Garcia, KO R1
Burns, decision

SL Dubbs · #**1500** 12-12-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BrundleROB

Kongo will outstrike Mir to the point where the ref has to
stop it. But of course, Mir will probably get lucky and pull
off a submission.

Why would Mir need to get lucky to pull of a submission against one the worst(if not the worst) grapplers in the ufc? All that happened tonight was Kongo getting exposed for how shitty his ground game really is.

HurricanesR1 · #**1501** 12-13-2009, 02:09 AM

Penn dominated as expected. That dude is so good at 155.

DunlopolnuD · #**1502** 12-13-2009, 04:22 AM

I forgot to do my picks but they were something like this...

Sanchez by TKO
Kongo by TKO
Guida by Decision
Fitch by Decision
Buentello by TKO

Those were who I wanted to win, if I had money on the fights, they would have been different. I wanted Sanchez to win, but I really felt that Penn was going to beat him standing up (though I didn't think it was going to be so one-sided). I wanted Kongo to win, but I felt Mir was going to win by submission (I was blown away by his performance, the power, the submission, the "killer instinct"). I hate Mir because of his attitude, but man, he impressed me... I really want to see him fight Brock now, I think he could school him standing up.

BrundleROB · #**1503** 12-13-2009, 03:55 PM

Mir has impressed me too. Congradulations Frank,
you've finally impressed somebody other than yourself.

SL Dubbs · #**1504** 12-27-2009, 09:15 PM

As of now I have turned most of my attention to the HW division. GSP and Silva will continue to dominate anyone whose name isn't GSP or Silva. Until the two face off my interest will regain in the lower weight classes.

BrundleROB · #**1505** 01-01-2010, 03:45 PM

Did Dana White ever say that those two would square off in '10? That's a dream match in the making. I honestly think that Silva would win though. GSP would obviously try to take Silva down, but his pin point accuarcy with his fists would be too much for Rush. He's a great wrestler. No doubt about that. But his standup has got nothing on Silva's.

Who's looking forward to UFC 108 tomorrow?

The card looks like it's absolutely shit. But you never know, there could be a show stealer and an early candidate for fight of the year. I'm just watching it to see who will win beween Evans and Silva. It seems logical that they would put the guys who's only losses are against the light heavyweight champion (No not Shogun, Machida).

I don't necessarily like either one of them, nor am I cheering at all. My prediction: It ends in the first round.

SL Dubbs · #**1506** 01-03-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrundleROB

Did Dana White ever say that those two would square off in '10? That's a dream match in the making. I honestly think that Silva would win though. GSP would obviously try to take Silva down, but his pin point accuarcy with his fists would be too much for Rush. He's a great wrestler. No doubt about that. But his standup has got nothing on Silva's.

There's been alot of specualtion but nothing set in stone. I could definatley see the fight going the distance, but as you said Silva's accuracy would just be too much for GSP. Being able to land 82% of his stikes is un-matched accuracy in all off mma or boxing.

SL Dubbs · #**1507** 01-03-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BrundleROB

Who's looking forward to UFC 108 tomorrow?

The card looks like it's absolutely shit. But you never know, there could be a show stealer and an early candidate for fight of the year. I'm just watching it to see who will win beween Evans and Silva. It seems logical that they would put the guys who's only losses are against the light heavyweight champion (No not Shogun, Machida).

I don't necessarily like either one of them, nor am I cheering at all. My prediction: It ends in the first round.

I really didn't feel that any of this warranted a response, seeing how every fight on this card sucked shit. Regardless though, all that happened last night was Thiago blowing an opportunity to KO Rashad resulting in takedowns leading him to another decision.

SL Dubbs · #**1508** 01-04-2010, 09:03 PM

Fedor Emelianenko’s manager Vadim Finkelstein has posted a message on Twitter this morning (Twitter.com/vfinkelstein) is sure to get people talking:

Negotiations with UFC going on again. I hope you fans will be happy this time)

UFC president Dana White spoke to Sherdog.com last week and stated that he and M-1 had talked “more recently than anyone would think.”

www.mmanews.com

Canto · #**1509** 01-04-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Fanatic

Fedor Emelianenko’s manager Vadim Finkelstein has posted a message on Twitter this morning (Twitter.com/vfinkelstein) is sure to get people talking:

Negotiations with UFC going on again. I hope you fans will be happy this time)

UFC president Dana White spoke to Sherdog.com last week and stated that he and M-1 had talked “more recently than anyone would think.”

www.mmanews.com

Cool, although I'd actually like to see Fedor fight Alistair Overeem in Strikeforce first and let the UFC figure out what theyre doing with the Heavyweight division.

I'm hoping Frank Mir wins the Interim Championship over Carwin and Cain Velasquez beats Noguiera for a title shot, and let the winner of Mir/Velasquez face Fedor.

BrundleROB · #**1510** 01-13-2010, 08:35 PM

Frank Mir versus Cain Velasquez would be an outstanding match. I gotta say though, I have no idea what will happen in those two fights. I'm usually pretty good at predicting stuff (excpet for the Rashad/Silva fight), but I have no clue what will occur in the Mir/Carwin fight and the Velasquez/Noguiera fight. Velasquez is an outstanding wrestler, but Big Nog's probably the second best grappler on the ground today. So Velasquez would have to fight perfectly (which he's always done), to pull off a win. But as we all know, Nogueira's a sneaky bastard and can bait anyone in with a submission. I don't see that fight going to a decision.

And the same thing goes with the Carwin/Mir fight. No decision for that one. Knockout or Tap Out. either way, I'm excited for both of these fights. I do hope that Carwin beats Frank though. Just because I hate the guy so much. When Carwin was supposed to be going up against Brock, I was against him. But I guess I can cheer for him for one night.

SL Dubbs · #**1511** 01-16-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrundleROB

Just because I hate the guy so much. .

What in particular makes you hate Frank Mir? I don't think you have ever given a reason. I think he's one of the smartest fighters very respectful and has some of the best Ju Jitsu in the sport.

BrundleROB · #**1512** 01-17-2010, 01:45 PM

I'm not doubting how good the guy is now. I always used to think that he really did get lucky in every fight. But after that fight with Kongo, I've seen the light, he is damn good.

He's respectful AFTER the fight. He always has to make every fight personal. That's what I don't like about the guy. There's a difference between trying to get into your opponent's head and just coming off like a complete asshole.

The rematch between him and Brock wouldn't have gotten so personal had Frank not run his mouth like he always does.

I'm giving him credit where credit is do, he's very smart at analyzing fights and what have ya, and he's a great commentator. And most importantly, yes, he's damn good.

But the douchebagery in his attitude is something I could do without, even though that's very common with most MMA fighters.

By the way, I know Brock can be a real prick too, but there's a difference between him and Frank: Brock has fun with it, Frank doesn't

BrundleROB · #**1513** 01-21-2010, 09:30 AM

BROCK IS BACK BABY!!!! Maybe if Frank beats Carwin for the Interim Championship (the made up title), Brock can batter his face apart the THIRD time, thank you very much.

SL Dubbs · #**1514** 01-21-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BrundleROB

BROCK IS BACK BABY!!!! Maybe if Frank beats Carwin for the Interim Championship (the made up title), Brock can batter his face apart the THIRD time, thank you very much.

Not til this summer

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/01/2...ssue-recovery/

January 20, 2010:

Lesnar speaks publicly for the first time on a live appearance accompanied by White on ESPN's SportsCenter. The UFC champ calls his recovery a "miracle" and won't need life-changing surgery. He will be back in the summer to face the winner of Mir vs. Carwin.

On this date, Lesnar weighing 273 pounds, says he's "feeling 100 percent."

HurricanesR1 · #**1515** 01-21-2010, 06:57 PM

Lesnar-Mir III? Yawn

I saw Lesnar beat Mir down twice already. I don't need to see it a third time.

SL Dubbs · #**1516** 01-21-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricanesR1

Lesnar-Mir III? Yawn

I saw Lesnar beat Mir down twice already. I don't need to see it a third time.

I'm leaning towards Carwin winning the interim just for the sheer entertainment value of the wheels coming off Mir's wagon and him completely falling apart mentally with the loss. Cain-Nog's winner (hoping for Nog) facing Lesnar would be a hoot as well.

Mr. Creasy · #**1517** 02-01-2010, 09:16 PM

Fedor is going to UFC sooner or later... as simple as that!

HurricanesR1 · #**1518** 02-04-2010, 04:46 PM

I think MMA has already reached its peak. Chael Sonnen could be the next #1 contender with a 4-3 UFC record (if he beats Marquardt). This is really a joke. The matchups are getting beyond boring. These "new" fighters are wanna-be's and aren't in the league with the current elite fighters. I guess sooner or later there will be a heavyweight tournament of former NFL players to see who gets the next shot at the heavyweight title.

LMAO at WEC on PPV. How many title shots is Donald Cerrone going to get?

JAN 09 vs. Jamie Varner....LOST
OCT 09 vs. Ben Henderson....LOST

He is 0-2 in title shots so why is he getting a rematch with Henderson after he already got schooled once by him?

BrundleROB · #**1519** 02-04-2010, 05:19 PM

I'm thinking Couture-Coleman this weekend will go the distance. Neither guy I don't think can finish off their opponents like they used to anymore. Two seasoned veterans man, great match up.