#1521  
Old 02-05-2010, 11:33 AM
what about when it had Vera/Noguiera and Paulo Thiago taking on that douchebag Josh Koscheck again?
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  #1522  
Old 02-12-2010, 02:28 PM
It wasn't being wrong about how the Coleman/Couture fight went, it's just that it was such a lame, extremely slow paced match that got to me. Shit pay-per-view man.
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  #1523  
Old 02-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Crappy PPV - The lone bright spot - Bader. Who are they going to throw at this monster now? I have no doubt he'll be champ, soon.
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  #1524  
Old 02-22-2010, 03:30 AM
Cain Velasquez is the man!

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Crappy PPV - The lone bright spot - Bader. Who are they going to throw at this monster now? I have no doubt he'll be champ, soon.
Jon Jones can take him.
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  #1525  
Old 02-22-2010, 10:44 PM
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Cain Velasquez is the man!



Jon Jones can take him.
Bader would destroy Jon Jones.
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  #1526  
Old 02-23-2010, 08:19 AM
anybody else here read about Frank Mir's comments on Brock?

Here it is: ""A lot of individuals are so worried about being politically correct," Mir said in an interview with Mark Madden on WXDX radio. "I'd rather go ahead and say what's on my mind than to sit there and come up with some PC 'Oh, the guy is a great fighter and I have a lot of respect for him.' If I don't mean it, why is it even coming out of my mouth? ... I want to fight Lesnar. I hate who he is as a person. I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies due to Octagon-related injuries. That's what's going through my mind."

"He doesn't like me and I can guarantee, you talk to anybody in my family, it's a legitimate hate," Mir said of Lesnar. "His very being bugs me just because I've seen a lot of children out there who look to athletes and martial artists as role models, and it just makes me cringe. I sit there and go, 'Man, I lost to this guy the second time around and now people think that's the way to be -- be big, obnoxious and angry.' That's not right. We have anger toward each other. Everything I stand for he despises and dislikes, and I can tell you I truly do not like him as a person whatsoever."

Frank's pretty respectable isn't he? So Frank, if we're not supposed to be 'big, obnoxious and angry', are we supposed to wanna kill people? Are we supposed to wish death upon someone like you're doing?

I don't know if he's doing this just to try to sell this fight, but this is not the way to do it. Even Mir's fans have to admit that this is a lack of class on Frank's part. I'm not saying that Brock was gentlmen at UFC 100 or anything, but he was doing exactly what you saw before the fight...talking trash.

This is not trash talking, this is just straight up unembashed stupidity. He hates Brock. I understand that. But come on, he doesn't need to be saying shit like this. It makes him look like the true bad guy in this rivalry.

I hope Brock fights him again, and I hope he bashes his face in again, so I can laugh at him, and to anyone that agrees with his comments.

I hate Frank, but I've always had respect for the guy. I no longer have any respect for him
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:37 PM
I hated seeing this. I really like Frank Mir and understand that he's taken his ego to a whole new level - but wow was I shocked.

I think what he said was horrible for the sport and probably knocked MMA back a few years as it is just starting to become more mainstream. The next time that Brock and Frank fight all we are going to hear about is this horseshit.
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  #1528  
Old 02-23-2010, 07:04 PM
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Bader would destroy Jon Jones.
No way, Jon Jones will handle Bader just like he did with Matt Hamill
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:26 PM
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No way, Jon Jones will handle Bader just like he did with Matt Hamill
Bader got through his first mainstream gatekeeper, so now I think he'll face a legit test. Maybe someone like Thiago Silva? He's coming off of a tough loss to Rashad Evans after destroying Keith Jardine in quick fashion.
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  #1530  
Old 02-24-2010, 01:59 PM
Frank Mir already got pounded into the ground by Lesnar twice...and he wants more of it?

This rivalry isn't quite as goofy as Shamrock-Ortiz, but its' getting there.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:47 PM
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Frank Mir already got pounded into the ground by Lesnar twice...and he wants more of it?

This rivalry isn't quite as goofy as Shamrock-Ortiz, but its' getting there.
Huh? Both Mir and Lesnar have a victory over each other. It's the classic feud between a behemoth powerhouse vs. a technical submission guru.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:25 AM
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I hate who he is as a person. I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies due to Octagon-related injuries. That's what's going through my mind."
I have been pretty vocal about my hatred for Lesnar on here, but even I would have to agree this is a bit much.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:10 PM
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Huh? Both Mir and Lesnar have a victory over each other. It's the classic feud between a behemoth powerhouse vs. a technical submission guru.
Yes, technically. BUT people were calling for that fight to be stopped because Lesnar was pounding the shit out of Mir. Lesnar simply made a rookie mistake against a former champ and got caught with an ankle lock. Dana White should have never put him up against a former champ for his first fight.

I don't believe there will be a Lesnar/Mir 3 but if there is Lesnar is going to destroy Mir...again. I wouldn't be surprised if Lesnar didn't stop until well after the ref tries to step in and call it.
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  #1534  
Old 03-03-2010, 10:30 PM
What is with Dana White signing James Toney? Anyone got a clue? I mean I got see earlier in his career, but now with all his roid issues and not to mention he is 41 and out of shape. Doesnt make sense any way you look at it in my opinion.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:06 PM
LOL at the UFC. I guess sooner or later we'll see Stone Cold vs. Barry Bonds or something. This is all about $$$. Don't be surprised if Toney fights Kimbo. They may not be a real threat to the division, but they'll draw viewers.
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  #1536  
Old 03-04-2010, 04:50 PM
The signing of Toney just means that Dana White gets to prove that MMA is superior to boxing. Toney will get demolished.

Dan Hardy's way of calling GSP a one-dimensional fighter.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:25 PM
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The signing of Toney just means that Dana White gets to prove that MMA is superior to boxing. Toney will get demolished.
disagree big time

MMA and Boxing are two different sports. An MMA fighter would get beat down in boxing and a boxer would get beat down in an MMA fight. Of course Toney will likely get beat down....because he's 41 years old and just now making his MMA debut....plus he's known for not being in shape. He does have serious KO power so if he connects, it's lights out for somebody.

BJ Penn is maybe the best boxer in MMA, but if you put him in the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao, BJ would get humiliated. At the same time, if you put Floyd or Pacman in the cage with Penn, Floyd and Pacman would get subbed in a matter of minutes.

And if you look at the big MMA events vs. the big boxing events, boxing wins 8 or 9 out of 10 times.....and most consider boxing "finished." At this point, MMA still can't hold a candle to boxing.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:52 PM
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Yes, technically. BUT people were calling for that fight to be stopped because Lesnar was pounding the shit out of Mir. Lesnar simply made a rookie mistake against a former champ and got caught with an ankle lock. Dana White should have never put him up against a former champ for his first fight.

I don't believe there will be a Lesnar/Mir 3 but if there is Lesnar is going to destroy Mir...again. I wouldn't be surprised if Lesnar didn't stop until well after the ref tries to step in and call it.
It was a kneebar not an ankle lock. When was the last time an ankle lock was effective? about the last time Ken Shamrock was champion.

Mir has been working on his striking(which his last fight with kongo showed), and that's exactly what he needs to do to regain a solid win over lesnar.

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What is with Dana White signing James Toney? Anyone got a clue? I mean I got see earlier in his career, but now with all his roid issues and not to mention he is 41 and out of shape. Doesnt make sense any way you look at it in my opinion.
Over-the-hill athletes from other sports see money in MMA, and the UFC is willing to sign freakshow fighters that will garner them media attention. Nothing new here.
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Old 03-04-2010, 11:53 PM
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It was a kneebar not an ankle lock. When was the last time an ankle lock was effective? about the last time Ken Shamrock was champion.

Mir has been working on his striking(which his last fight with kongo showed), and that's exactly what he needs to do to regain a solid win over lesnar.
Knee bar, ankle lock, same difference. It was a rookie mistake and you know it.

Stop trolling my messages because I told you Fedor is over rated. He is, accept it and move on.

As far as Mir getting a solid win over lesnar... it must be nice living in fantasy land.
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:36 PM
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disagree big time

MMA and Boxing are two different sports. An MMA fighter would get beat down in boxing and a boxer would get beat down in an MMA fight. Of course Toney will likely get beat down....because he's 41 years old and just now making his MMA debut....plus he's known for not being in shape. He does have serious KO power so if he connects, it's lights out for somebody.

BJ Penn is maybe the best boxer in MMA, but if you put him in the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao, BJ would get humiliated. At the same time, if you put Floyd or Pacman in the cage with Penn, Floyd and Pacman would get subbed in a matter of minutes.

And if you look at the big MMA events vs. the big boxing events, boxing wins 8 or 9 out of 10 times.....and most consider boxing "finished." At this point, MMA still can't hold a candle to boxing.
You are right. However, I feel that MMA resembles a real fight more than a boxing match.

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As far as Mir getting a solid win over lesnar... it must be nice living in fantasy land.
I've gotta say... aside from a split decision, an mma win is a solid win. When a man must tap out of a fight because he can no longer continue... the victor is a solid winner.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:50 PM
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Knee bar, ankle lock, same difference. It was a rookie mistake and you know it.

Stop trolling my messages because I told you Fedor is over rated. He is, accept it and move on.

As far as Mir getting a solid win over lesnar... it must be nice living in fantasy land.
You got a whiney pussy opinion about everything....making up excuses for lesnar now? A submission is about the most solid win you can get in mma.

It's only natural when you come in here and post stupid shit I'm going to correct you. Which btw is every post you have made in this thread. If you got a problem with that there's always the ignore feature.

Your giant dick chested idol wouldn't survive the first round with Fedor.

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Old 03-05-2010, 06:59 PM
Looks like a solid win to me.

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  #1543  
Old 03-05-2010, 07:00 PM
Jui-jitsu takes years of training and skill, being a huge fucking beast like Brock Lesnar doesnt make him a good fighter.

I dont get how you are defending Brock Lesnar's loss by saying he made a rookie mistake, OF COURSE HE DID! and thats why he lost! if you make a mistake in MMA against a good fighter, you're done.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:04 AM
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You got a whiney pussy opinion about everything....making up excuses for lesnar now? A submission is about the most solid win you can get in mma.

It's only natural when you come in here and post stupid shit I'm going to correct you. Which btw is every post you have made in this thread. If you got a problem with that there's always the ignore feature.

Your giant dick chested idol wouldn't survive the first round with Fedor.
Read the rules. Asshole.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:20 AM
With the shape Mir is in now,even if Brock can get back to 100%,Mir is unstoppable. If he stays healthy, he won't lose a fight in the next few years. Unless White signs Fedor.
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:52 PM
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With the shape Mir is in now,even if Brock can get back to 100%,Mir is unstoppable. If he stays healthy, he won't lose a fight in the next few years. Unless White signs Fedor.

Agreed. Mir is an absolute TANK now.

I think Couture is trying to steam through his obligated UFC fights for a shot at Fedor.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:05 PM
I believe he was only obligated to have 2 more fights in the UFC (after he had his fallout with the UFC), he's already fought lesnar, noguiera, coleman, and vera.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:09 PM
Randy Couture signed a 6 fight deal before the Noguiera fight, so he still has 3 more, he's supposed to fight Rich Franklin next.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Haha, that's ridiculous. If he really wanted to fight Fedor, why would he sign a 6 fight deal? I never heard about the deal, but I'll take your word for it, and that leads me to believe that he's not interested in fighting Fedor as much as he leads on.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:07 PM
Yeah Dana White had said Couture had signed a new 6-fight deal before the Nogueira matchup.

Fedor would demolish Couture.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:32 PM
I like Randy, but the last time he fought a top caliber fighter (Nog) he got his ass handed to him for 15 minutes straight. I really thought during that fight that Nog was releasing the submissions he had on Randy out of some sort of respect or sympathy. Yes, Fedor would demolish him.
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:47 PM
UFC on Versus 1: Vera vs. Jones
Sunday, Mar. 21
9pm

Televised Card
Jon Jones vs. Brandon Vera
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Junior dos Santos
Paul Buentello vs. Cheick Kongo
Alessio Sakara vs. James Irvin

Prelims
Shannon Gugerty vs. Clay Guida
Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Chase Gormley vs. Brendan Schaub
Daniel Roberts vs. John Howard
Darren Elkins vs. Duane Ludwig
Jason Brilz vs. Eric Schafer
Julio Paulino vs. Mike Pierce
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:59 PM
I'd rather watch the prelims.
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:55 AM
I'm probably more excited for this card than I should be, but all of those main card fights seem like they're going to end with someone getting knocked out.

Here's who I'd like to win...

Vera
Gonzaga (especially if he comes out to the song "Mother" again. )
Kongo
Sakara

And who I think will win...

Jones
Dos Santos
Buentello
Sakara
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:01 PM
It's a damn good card for free TV.
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Old 03-20-2010, 05:00 PM
Some more upcoming events:

STRIKEFORCE

STRIKEFORCE CHALLANGERS 7 - March 26, 2010
Lavar Big Johnson v Lolohea Mahe
Ron Abongo Humphry v George Bush III

STRIKEFORCE - April 17, 2010
Bobby Lashley v TBA

STRIKEFORCE - May 15, 2010
Alistair Overeem v Brett Rogers
Andrei Arlovski v Antonio Bigfoot Silva


DREAM

DREAM 13 - March 22, 2010
Josh Barnett v Mighty Mo Siliga


Last I heard, Fedor v Werdum was still off for the April Strikeforce event, but someone correct me if there's any updates on that.


For reference, here are the current MMAweekly and Sherdog HW top 10 lists:

MMA Weekly http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...d=16&zoneid=15
HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Frank Mir
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Brett Rogers
7. Shane Carwin
8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
9. Alistair Overeem
10. Fabricio Werdum

MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on March 10, 2010


Sherdog - March 10, 2010
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...Rankings-23122
Heavyweight

1. Fedor Emelianenko (31-1, 1 NC)
2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
3. Frank Mir (13-4)
4. Cain Velasquez (8-0)
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1, 1 NC)
6. Brett Rogers (10-1)
7. Junior dos Santos (10-1)
8. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
9. Shane Carwin (11-0)
10. Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1)

Other contenders: Aleksander Emelianenko, Gabriel Gonzaga, Alistair Overeem, Ben Rothwell, Antonio Silva.
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Old 03-20-2010, 05:59 PM
After watching Dos Santos pick Cro Cop apart, I have to say he is one ferocious dude. I know that Mirko is past his prime, but his standup game was just dominant. Plus, he's a ju jitsu specialist? Hmmm... I could definitely see him as a contender after he takes out Gonzaga. If Gabriel wins, color me shocked.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:18 PM
That May 15 Strikeforce card looks great.
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:23 PM
That April 17th card is the one that really has my interest since Mo Lawal is supposed to be fighting Gegard Mousasi, and Jake Shields is going to get worked by Hendo. That Lashley match should be a fun addition, even though it most likely won't even be competitive.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:47 PM
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After watching Dos Santos pick Cro Cop apart, I have to say he is one ferocious dude. I know that Mirko is past his prime, but his standup game was just dominant. Plus, he's a ju jitsu specialist? Hmmm... I could definitely see him as a contender after he takes out Gonzaga. If Gabriel wins, color me shocked.
He is a damn intriguing fighter. His standup looked terrifying. Really interested in that fight and I agree he is a contender if he destroys Gonzaga.
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