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jaw2929 · #**1961** 01-29-2012, 10:57 PM

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I think Nick already got to GSP. I don't think it's a coincidence that GSP tore his ACL. He was probably overtraining because of his hatred for Nick Diaz. Hatred can some times be beneficial to certain fighters, but I don't think it's GSP's style and it hasn't worked well for Diaz's opponents.

Exactly - I want this to continue to be the case, just so IF that pussy ever decides to nut up and face Diaz - his hate/anger can consume him, and Diaz can take advantage and expose the prick for the joke he is. Always felt that St. Pierre was over-rated. I'm not saying he's not athletically gifted or that he "sucks" - Just not nearly as GREAT as everyone has seemingly made him out to be.

Glad we're on the same page there Cop.

Cop No. 633 · #**1962** 01-30-2012, 05:24 AM

Likewise, Jaw.

You know, the saddest thing for me is that GSP can be great... if he really wanted to be great. He had a solid first half of a career, but after losing to Serra, you could see that he regressed as a martial artist. His fans can argue that it's "smart" fighting because he isn't losing, but I believe a true martial artist tries to finish a fight, not wait for the bell. In real life, there isn't a timer. It's just you and your opponent. The only way a fight ends is if one of somebody gets beaten or quits. That's the problem with GSP. He's waiting for the bell. He's treating this like a sport based on points. He talks a big game, but he only performs the minimum amount of his abilities. It's sad. Could you imagine if Michael Jordan decided to half-ass a season just because he knew he could get away with it? Nobody would have called him the best player of all time. Meanwhile, you have fighters like Lyoto Machida who still has the courage to put everything on the line even after he's lost three of last four fights. That Crane Kick he landed on Couture was more amazing than anything GSP's done in the last three years. That's one thing that I wish fans would think about in MMA. Simply winning in this sport, or any combat sport, doesn't make you great. It's how you engage the opponent. And I'm not saying GSP should make every fight a brawl or intentionally get tagged to make things "exciting." It's just that we've already seen proof that you can fight a safe fight and still deliver greatness (look at Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, and Jose Aldo).

jaw2929 · #**1963** 01-31-2012, 04:00 PM

Couldn't agree with ya more Cop. I really enjoy guys like Machida, Jones, Silva, etc. far more than watching St. Pierre fight.

Jesus, I hope the next UFC on Fox special is a whole lot better than this past weekends'!

MovieMaster · #**1964** 01-31-2012, 05:07 PM

Not a good start to his UFC career, it could be false allegations but with his known history of roid rage it would not shock me if it were true. I did not like the guy for beating Brock into retirement but I was starting to warm up on him a little but he just ruined that.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/31/alista.../#.Tyh0FvlAIYI

Cop No. 633 · #**1965** 01-31-2012, 08:03 PM

I'll withhold any judgement until more facts are revealed. We don't know what happened. Maybe the lady charged at him and he instinctually pushed her. Or maybe he is an asshole prick who bullied a small woman. Who knows. For a moment, I thought the story was going to be about him severely beating somebody, but it's nowhere close to that nor is there any proper description of the incident.

On a side note, I'm glad Brock retired. He would have taken unnecessary punishment if he had stayed in the UFC. He was a decent fighter who started fighting too late in his life. We'll never know what he was really capable of, but it was clear that he couldn't keep up with the competition.

MovieMaster · #**1966** 01-31-2012, 08:10 PM

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it was clear that he couldn't keep up with the competition.

If not for his stomach issues he would still be murdering in the UFC. I have no doubt of this. Alistair would have been crushed if Brock had been 100%, hell even 90% but he looked to be 50% at best when they fought.

Cop No. 633 · #**1967** 01-31-2012, 11:04 PM

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If not for his stomach issues he would still be murdering in the UFC. I have no doubt of this. Alistair would have been crushed if Brock had been 100%, hell even 90% but he looked to be 50% at best when they fought.

His fights against Cain and Carwin say otherwise though. It wasn't his disease that made him clench up whenever somebody tagged his face. I liked Brock, but I could see he wasn't a great fighter. He got by on his size and athleticism, but that didn't matter once the competition grew stronger. There are too many fighters who are just as strong and are much more skilled than him.

It's sad, but he really has no one to blame for his diverticulitis except himself. He could have avoided it if he had a better diet.

MovieMaster · #**1968** 02-01-2012, 08:33 AM

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His fights against Cain and Carwin say otherwise though.

It's sad, but he really has no one to blame for his diverticulitis except himself. He could have avoided it if he had a better diet.

Everyone has a loss or two and he would have been an entertaining fighter for a while longer with many more wins and having him around the UFC would have only helped the popularity of the sport even more. I know plenty of people who watched UFC just for him because of the fact that he was this huge hulk just smashing through people.

And to say he could have avoided it is not as easy as it sounds. It isn't like he was chowing down diverticulitis burgers or something. This is something that doctors still aren't 100% about besides an idea that a low fiber diet might cause it.

jaw2929 · #**1969** 02-01-2012, 09:35 AM

I loved Brock as a fighter, but even at 100% (say the same shape he was in, when he fuckin' battered and kicked that fucking prick Mir's face/head right in) - I still don't think he would've had much of a chance against Overeem. Alistair is an unbelievably gifted fighter in skill & size/strength, and has a wealth of experience over Lesnar as well.

Even if Brock was able to somehow defeat Alistair, I question how well he would've done vs. Dos Santos anyway. There's no question Lesnar was a big box office draw on the card, and his fights ALWAYS had that "big fight feel" to them.... So that will definitely be missed.

MovieMaster · #**1970** 02-01-2012, 10:28 AM

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I question how well he would've done vs. Dos Santos anyway.

Lesnar vs Dos Santos would have been probably one of the best fights the UFC has had in a while if Lesnar was 100%. That one would have been hard to call. I would hate to be on the end of DS's punches about as bad as I would hate to be on the receiving end of Lesnar's ground n pound.

Cop No. 633 · #**1971** 02-01-2012, 02:43 PM

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Everyone has a loss or two and he would have been an entertaining fighter for a while longer with many more wins and having him around the UFC would have only helped the popularity of the sport even more. I know plenty of people who watched UFC just for him because of the fact that he was this huge hulk just smashing through people.

And to say he could have avoided it is not as easy as it sounds. It isn't like he was chowing down diverticulitis burgers or something. This is something that doctors still aren't 100% about besides an idea that a low fiber diet might cause it.

It's not the losses I'm criticizing (since Brock did beat Carwin), but the actual fights. I know that everyone loses eventually. But as soon as Brock got tagged in the face a few times by a strong opponent, he completely lost his instincts and didn't know how to react. It was disappointing to say the least, but it makes sense given that Brock hadn't trained in martial arts for very long. That's why I don't think the disease is what caused him to lose to Alistair... he clenched up just like he did against Carwin and Velasquez. Let's face it, he was a strong guy, but I don't think he could take half the punishment he dished out.

All I know is that it's obvious Brock was eating a high protein, low fiber, probably low vegetable diet. Look at him. You don't have to eat something tainted to get diverticulitis. It's the amount of food you consume, and how little you properly balance your diet. Let's face it, Brock wasn't known for being meticulous with his diet or his training as much as other fighters.

Brock was good for the sport. I'll never deny that. But as a fighter, he had holes in his game that he overcame with this strength and size. I don't think his disease had anything to do with his lack of skills. It might have just helped expose what was already there. He's even said that he lost to Alistair simply because he was the better fighter.

jaw2929 · #**1972** 02-01-2012, 03:43 PM

Having said that Cop, who do you think will win the JDS vs. Overeem fight when it eventually happens? Dos Santos is a straight up boxer and Overeem is a kick-boxer/striker as well. That should be an interestingly fun fight to watch whenever it goes down.

Cop No. 633 · #**1973** 02-01-2012, 04:31 PM

That's one of the harder fights to call. They are both capable of ending the fight. It's just a matter of who gets to do it first. I think they're both great, but I honestly think that Junior could take it if he focuses on speed and distance. He's faster than Overeem, and if he wants to be beat him, he should take a look at Werdum's performance last year. Werdum outlanded Overeem in that fight. The only problem is he didn't have solid punching power. Junior does though. He has to use distance and speed. He needs to constantly move in and out and make Overeem swing and miss. This will expose Overeem and it will tire him out because he would constantly have to chase Junior.

But really, this could all end with one proper overhand right from Junior or a uberknee from Overeem. They're both incredibly strong.

jaw2929 · #**1974** 02-02-2012, 06:34 AM

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That's one of the harder fights to call. They are both capable of ending the fight. It's just a matter of who gets to do it first. I think they're both great, but I honestly think that Junior could take it if he focuses on speed and distance. He's faster than Overeem, and if he wants to be beat him, he should take a look at Werdum's performance last year. Werdum outlanded Overeem in that fight. The only problem is he didn't have solid punching power. Junior does though. He has to use distance and speed. He needs to constantly move in and out and make Overeem swing and miss. This will expose Overeem and it will tire him out because he would constantly have to chase Junior.

But really, this could all end with one proper overhand right from Junior or a uberknee from Overeem. They're both incredibly strong.

Very good points.... I really like both fighters, but I'm gonna go with Overeem for the experience edge, and more than just primarily boxing included in his striking repertoire.

I'm not taking anything away from Dos Santos, but yeah. Boxing clearly is his greatest strength, whereas everything else is just good and that's about it.

Cop No. 633 · #**1975** 02-04-2012, 03:48 PM

I can't wait for tonight! I haven't been this pumped over a fight in a while and last year had some pretty damn great fights. Diaz and Condit match up so well. We're going to see one of the best fights of all time in my opinion. No matter where the fight goes or how long it will take, it will be incredibly exciting. It will be one of the greatest welterweight battles.

That said, I'm pulling for Diaz. I'm a lifelong fan and I think he can weather Carlos down in a couple of rounds. I never count Carlos out though, but his strategy sounds like he'll be looking to knock Nick out the whole time while Nick will simply try to chip away at Carlos punch by punch. After two rounds of head hunting, I see Carlos not realizing the amount of damage he's taken from Nick's shots and by the 3 and 4, he'll run out of his KO power. I see Nick taking this by a submission. Something unexpected. Maybe Carlos will try to take Nick down in round 3 or 4, and Nick will submit him. The only way I see Carlos taking it is if he knocks Nick out within the first two rounds.

I also am looking forward to the other fights... I'd like to see Werdum win, but he's in for a tough fight against Roy Nelson who hasn't been knocked out yet and has great BJJ. Still, I could see Werdum sneaking in a submission should it go to the ground. And it really should go to the ground.

Koscheck/Pierce should be good. It could either way, but I'd like to see Pierce take it just because Koscheck's already been in the title mix before. I'd like to see things shaken up a bit. As for the Jorgensen/Barao fight, I see Barao getting a submission. possibly an arm bar or guillotine choke. Jorgensen is tough, but eventually his fights go to the ground and that's where Barao is stronger. I like Jorgensen though, but he's on and off with his fights.

jaw2929 · #**1976** 02-04-2012, 04:35 PM

I didn't realize Werdum and Nelson were fighting tonight... I expect he should take care of Nelson though via a submission like you said, Cop.

Diaz is also my pick to beat Condit in their fight. I'm a big fan of the Diaz brothers, love their "fuck you" attitudes and they're very damned good fighters too - enough to back their shit up.

I only started following UFC/MMA in general about 2 1/2 years ago - Diaz started growing on me from his fights in Strikeforce (which prior to the Zuffa buyout, I preferred a bit more to the UFC at the time). Anyway, should be an exciting one to be sure.

Cop No. 633 · #**1977** 02-05-2012, 04:10 PM

Wow, last night was a terrible night for MMA. The judges are pretty blind. Caceres easily won that fight, Pierce tagged Koscheck with the better shots and was backing him up most of the way, and Carlos Condit thought he was facing Nick Diaz in a triathlon.

It makes me sick to see so many people praising Condit's performance. He had no power in his shots. His punches were glancing shots at best and his leg kicks didn't do any damage. If they were so strong, how was Nick able to throw four or five high kicks in a row at the beginning of the 5th? The best moments were when they actually exchanged for more than three seconds and we all saw who was the better striker.

This is what happens when only one fighter shows up to engage in an actual fight. Pathetic. Anybody trying to compare Condit's "strategy" to Floyd Mayweather's are nuts... Mayweather doesn't run from an opponent, he dodges punches while standing and trading with them. That's counter punching. Not running away and getting a glancing shot. Apparently, fighters and trainers also thought the same as well. Jake fucking Ellenberger gave it to Diaz... and that guy hates Diaz.

jaw2929 · #**1978** 02-05-2012, 04:30 PM

Cop, I couldn't agree with you more. I was literally bored to tears watching all of the main cards' fights last night (luckily I didn't pay for what was a terrible PPV).

Anyway, it's since soured me on MMA & the UFC in general at this point in time (I was never more than an extremely casual fan anyway) and has me looking at Boxing to possibly get into as a new/different combat sport of choice.

Cop No. 633 · #**1979** 02-05-2012, 04:58 PM

I can't be a fairweather fan. I remember watching the first UFC as a child at my uncle's house when it first aired and I've been a fan of the sport ever since. This night was a reminder of what is wrong with the sport, but it doesn't completely ruin the greatness of it. There are still great fighters around like Jose Aldo, Jon Jones, Frankie Edgar, Junior Dos Santos and Anderson Silva. It's just sad when one fighter can get rewarded a belt with glancing shots and constant back pedaling. But he out struck Diaz with those powerful leg kicks bro! He fought a smart game plan by not trying to fight!

jaw2929 · #**1980** 02-05-2012, 05:19 PM

Yeah, when it comes to MMA/UFC & Boxing - I'm definitely a fairweather fan. I only started getting into MMA/UFC in 2009.... So I'll freely admit my dedication as a fan is definitely questionable.

I'm a life-long pro wrestling fan. Always have been, always will be in some form or another. But have since been so disenchanted with the current wrestling product, it makes me wanna check out what the UFC is doing/what's happening in the world of MMA. When I see cards/shows like the one I watched last night, it sours me and makes me question why I even bothered in the first place.

I know band-wagoners like me get a bad rep and probably deservedly so. But I've got no loyalty to MMA/UFC. I've found it extremely entertaining at times and mind-numbingly fucking boring at other times.... So yeah.

Cop No. 633 · #**1981** 02-05-2012, 08:03 PM

I understand. I'm not trying to make a snide remark against you. I just can't follow any organized sport anymore the way I follow mixed martial arts. It used to be boxing and MMA, but now it's mostly MMA with an occassional boxing bout. I'll still watch any fight Bernard Hopkins takes. The guy's a living legend.

jaw2929 · #**1982** 02-06-2012, 12:00 AM

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I understand. I'm not trying to make a snide remark against you. I just can't follow any organized sport anymore the way I follow mixed martial arts. It used to be boxing and MMA, but now it's mostly MMA with an occassional boxing bout. I'll still watch any fight Bernard Hopkins takes. The guy's a living legend.

Cop, since I've not gotten any responses yet over in the Boxing thread.... Let me ask you:

What about Boxing is alluring to you (or was once engaging to you)? I don't know Bernard Hopkins, what makes his fights enjoyable? Just thought I'd ask ya!

Cop No. 633 · #**1983** 02-06-2012, 12:56 AM

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Cop, since I've not gotten any responses yet over in the Boxing thread.... Let me ask you:

What about Boxing is alluring to you (or was once engaging to you)? I don't know Bernard Hopkins, what makes his fights enjoyable? Just thought I'd ask ya!

It's always been the same thing that fascinates me aobut MMA. It's about the combination of aggression, strategy and will to break your opponent. Combat sports for me is the top of the food chain because how useful it is in real life. If you can fight, you can defend yourself in a real life altercation. A fighter is putting much more on the line than any other athelete. In basketball, you can lose a game in the season and it's not that bad. In MMA or boxing, a bad loss can set you back an entire year or two in the sport. The stakes are just higher.

As for the fighters, I think the best fighters are the ones who combine athelticism, aggression and intellect in order to defeat the opponent. By defeating them, I mean by stopping them. Not by stifling them to get a decision. I don't respect that as much. In real combat, the goal is to stop the guy coming at you. The more fighters treat it like a game of points, and pay attention to the bell too much, you destroy the aggression factor which has turned so many fights into snooze fests.

Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters because he found the perfect balance between being aggressive and having a great defense. All of his losses are decisions. He hasn't been stopped in his career. He's been outmatched, but never stopped. He'll take a couple of shots, but he'll make you pay twofold. He also attacks the body more than most other boxers. He's also not afraid to get a little dirty to win, so there is that street smart style that has helped him against more respectable fighters. He doesn't try to win on points. He tries to break the opponent. Watch his fights against Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad. He completely broke those fighters down. Neither fighter was ever the same after they lost to Hopkins and it was their worst loss imo.

jaw2929 · #**1984** 02-06-2012, 02:40 PM

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It's always been the same thing that fascinates me aobut MMA. It's about the combination of aggression, strategy and will to break your opponent. Combat sports for me is the top of the food chain because how useful it is in real life. If you can fight, you can defend yourself in a real life altercation. A fighter is putting much more on the line than any other athelete. In basketball, you can lose a game in the season and it's not that bad. In MMA or boxing, a bad loss can set you back an entire year or two in the sport. The stakes are just higher.

As for the fighters, I think the best fighters are the ones who combine athelticism, aggression and intellect in order to defeat the opponent. By defeating them, I mean by stopping them. Not by stifling them to get a decision. I don't respect that as much. In real combat, the goal is to stop the guy coming at you. The more fighters treat it like a game of points, and pay attention to the bell too much, you destroy the aggression factor which has turned so many fights into snooze fests.

Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters because he found the perfect balance between being aggressive and having a great defense. All of his losses are decisions. He hasn't been stopped in his career. He's been outmatched, but never stopped. He'll take a couple of shots, but he'll make you pay twofold. He also attacks the body more than most other boxers. He's also not afraid to get a little dirty to win, so there is that street smart style that has helped him against more respectable fighters. He doesn't try to win on points. He tries to break the opponent. Watch his fights against Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad. He completely broke those fighters down. Neither fighter was ever the same after they lost to Hopkins and it was their worst loss imo.

Right on man, that's cool. May go to youtube and see some of them when I have a minute. I totally hear what you're saying about fighting/combat sports having more on the line and being a much more prideful/individual thing. That's what I like about them too - and there is a certain unpredictability to it as well. Thanks boss.

Cop No. 633 · #**1985** 02-08-2012, 05:38 AM

Rematch.

Now Nick Diaz hates Carlos Condit. This one is going to end with a proper finish.

SL Dubbs · #**1986** 02-16-2012, 01:31 PM

I haven't posted a lot in the last few months. I will though give a quick rundown of my main opinions.

Carlos Condit-fucking pussy

Brock Lesnar-Thank God his career is over, surprised it didn't happen sooner.

Nick Diaz-A future fight with GSP will mean GSP taking him down and pounding him into a decision or either ref stoppage which I seriously doubt. GSP is smart he will utlilize the only strategy he knows how to beat Diaz with.

Frank the Tank · #**1987** 02-17-2012, 12:27 AM

Ellenberger/Sanchez was the first great fight of the year. Jake easily won the first two rounds, but Diego came close to finishing it in the third. Shame it wasn't a five rounder. Ivan Menjivar vs John Albert deserves mention as that was a great short fight.

SL Dubbs · #**1988** 05-01-2012, 07:03 PM

Cigano will beat Overeem. I'd bet my two hot rods on it.

jaw2929 · #**1989** 05-01-2012, 07:44 PM

Overeem has been replaced by that asshole Frank Mir vs. JDS on the 26th of this month. I think Overeem failed his drug testing or whatever. Disappointing, but not surprising.

Honestly don't think Mir will be able to defeat Junior.... Dos Santos' boxing will be too much.

SL Dubbs · #**1990** 05-01-2012, 08:14 PM

way too much, to hang in there with a high caliber striker as Santos in Mir's condition he'll be lucky if he survives the first.

Overeem should lay off the roids, this isn't pride.

Lost in Space · #**1991** 05-02-2012, 11:39 AM

Mir has absolutely no chance whatsoever... His BJJ is amazing but JDS has good enough takedown defense to keep it off the ground and if Mir strikes with JDS he's going to die.

jaw2929 · #**1992** 05-02-2012, 03:35 PM

Pretty much. Am I the only one who thinks Frank Mir is a complete rotten, motherfucking sonuvabitch? I can't stand the prick.

Lost in Space · #**1993** 05-02-2012, 05:44 PM

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Pretty much. Am I the only one who thinks Frank Mir is a complete rotten, motherfucking sonuvabitch? I can't stand the prick.

I've never really seen any of the behind the scenes stuff with him so I really have no idea. He's probably one of the best american BJJ fighters though and I really enjoy watching his fights. Just don't really see a point in him being so outmatched in a fight like he is.

jaw2929 · #**1994** 05-02-2012, 08:38 PM

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I've never really seen any of the behind the scenes stuff with him so I really have no idea. He's probably one of the best american BJJ fighters though and I really enjoy watching his fights. Just don't really see a point in him being so outmatched in a fight like he is.

Just from the interviews I've seen him do, and the shit talking he did leading up to his fight with Lesnar at UFC 100. Just a complete fucking dickhead! I know trash talk is all in the build up to the fight & makes it more interesting, etc. but still... He just looks like a fucking bastard to me.

Anyway, I hope Junior hands him his ass!

SL Dubbs · #**1995** 05-05-2012, 03:15 PM

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I've never really seen any of the behind the scenes stuff with him so I really have no idea. He's probably one of the best american BJJ fighters though and I really enjoy watching his fights. Just don't really see a point in him being so outmatched in a fight like he is.

He's nowhere near one of the best american BJJ fighters. There's hundreds of guys who eat, sleep and breathe BJJ that would shut him down in a matter of seconds. If you were referring to most well adapted american BJJ fighter to the sport of MMA? he's nowhere near that status either.

JDS outclasses him in about every aspect of this sport. Frank Mir is an out of shape heavyweight who had his chance and blew it in the big time against an in-experienced one dimensional fighter like Lesnar.

I've been saying this for a while now JDS is a killing machine. I have seen fighters like him, I have seen training footage/clips. He trains eight hours a day. He will Kill Mir.

jaw2929 · #**1996** 05-05-2012, 03:29 PM

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He's nowhere near one of the best american BJJ fighters. There's hundreds of guys who eat, sleep and breathe BJJ that would shut him down in a matter of seconds. If you were referring to most well adapted american BJJ fighter to the sport of MMA? he's nowhere near that status either.

I'm not advocating for Mir at all.... But outta curiosity, what american fighter is better at BJJ than he? Just wondering, as I'm a bit of a novice/fan to the sport (only been following since UFC 100).

Cop No. 633 · #**1997** 05-05-2012, 04:02 PM

You guys are crazy for discrediting Mir's BJJ. He's a top guy in the heavyweight class. Sure, he's not as limber as say Demian Maia or BJ Penn, but he has submitted some good guys and with a variety of submissions. It's not like he can only do a guillotine choke. And to be the first guy to ever submit Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is a pretty big deal.

Sure, he's not the best. I think Werdum has the best BJJ in the division and then I'd say Barnett is behind him (who technically isn't BJJ, but has great grappling), but Mir does deserve some credit.

Will he lose to Junior? Yes. Junior's too fast and has the power to stifle Mir into a corner. But if this fight gets to the ground somehow, it won't be as easy as we'd like to believe.

I'm pissed that I have to work tonight, so I'll miss the free Fox card. It looks better than the last PPV event.

I want Nate to win it. His last two fights have just been so damn impressive that I hope he keeps that streak going. Jim Miller's a tough SOB, but his standup looked so sloppy against Melvin in the last fight. Even if Jim takes it to the ground, he won't be able to submit Nate.

I'm taking Nate, Hendricks, Palhares, and Barry for the main card. I really hope Palhares wins... he's like the Wolverine of the middle weight division.

jaw2929 · #**1998** 05-05-2012, 04:11 PM

I love the Diaz brothers and would enjoy a Nate victory tonight also. I guess if he wins, Dana White is going to give him a title shot.... Which he'd deserve at that point.

Cop No. 633 · #**1999** 05-05-2012, 04:20 PM

He really does. I also want him to win because I might get a chance to meet him and Nick next weekend at the Brazilian Expo. Gonna check out that super fight. Nick Diaz vs. Braulio Estima! It was only $15, so I said, why not?