FilmJunkie1114’s Requests to Film Fans for 2009

[FilmJunkie1114]

Listed below are my Requests to film fans here and throughout the country for 2009. As a fellow film fanatic, it can be very difficult not to harp on the same concepts and to state really cliché opinions on a routine basis; therefore, the following list is my personal requests, for both myself and my fellow film-loving community, to end some of these trends.

1) NO MORE UNSUBSTANTIATED BATMAN 3 CLAIMS. Please, for the love of God, end the insanity. At this point, I don’t believe any Batman 3 rumors unless it is supported with a statement from Christopher Nolan, David Goyer, Warner Bros, Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Heath Ledger, Jesus Christ, Xenu, and the spirit of Bob Kane.

2) No more bold opposing views without examples as to why you hold that opinion. If you hated Slumdog Millionaire despite how much people loved it, that is perfectly fine, but “the movie is stupid and overrated” is not a strong enough reason. Mention the performances, the editing, the pacing, the plot, but at least have backing to your assessment.

3) I would like one person to enlighten me as to why I should give two shits at this point for the long-gestating “Green Hornet” project. I am a loyal follower of Seth Rogen, Stephen Chow, Kevin Smith, and Michel Gondry, all of whom have been involved at some point or another at trying to get the project moving, and yet I still can’t grasp why a masked vigilante with an Asian sidekick is in such high demand in Hollywood. In all honesty, the character seems to share some similarities with The Spirit, especially in appearance, and if that movie is any indicator things don’t look optimistic. I am not trying to be cynical, I just need someone to fill me in on what the Herculean appeal of this project is.

If anyone has any additional ones, please feel free to share.

[Backstabba]

"Sorry everyone, but _____ sucked!"

Oh, really?

Ok, case closed.
No, it's okay, I forgive you for telling me that a movie I liked sucked. I just never realized until now.

(I fucking hate that)

[Monotreme]

Okay, here's one I have that may stir up some controversy, but I really fear that this is what's going to happen and I anticipate this cataclysmic event with great reluctance...:

Film fans, PLEASE don't CREAM over Watchmen and overexaggerate your love of it. Look, we all know that it's probably going to be a good movie - and I myself am anticipating it and hope that it will live up to my expectations. But I'm really afraid that, with all the hype leading up to it, response is going to be WAY over-enthusiastic, sort of like what happened and is still happening with The Dark Knight. Now, let me back up this statement: I LOVED The Dark Knight and anyone who has seen my top 10 films of 2008 list will see that The Dark Knight sits very snug at #5. I have it a 9/10 rating, saw it three times in theatres, and loved every second. But that said, I DO believe that fan response to the film was a little OVER-enthusiastic. The movie was #1 on the IMDb top 250 movies OF ALL TIME for the longest time, and now it's at #5, which is still waaay exaggerated. People were creaming all over it, claiming that it's the "best movie of all time!!!", giving it 10/10 ratings as if it were the new Citizen Kane... and as much as I liked the movie, I had to admit that while it was one of the best films of 2008, it wasn't THE best one, and it's certainly nowhere near my top 100 movies OF ALL TIME list - and I felt that reaction was just... exaggerated.

Anyway, back to my point: I really, REALLY hope that, with all the hype leading into it, Watchmen won't garner a similar over-enthusiastic response... PLEASE!

[Art Vandelay]

I agree with everything said thus far. Here's something else to throw in:

Movie fans, we as a whole have to start boycotting these shitty ass Meet The Spartans, Disaster Movie parody-type movies. The fact that when these are released and are the highest opening grossings of their respective weekends is an abomination and only encourages these morons to keep hiring 12 year olds to write screenplays and then turn said scripts into movies that gross more than many truly great and artistically visionary movies. Bad movies are one thing, can't avoid those, but true embarrassments to film and anybody who sees them that gross a ton of money need to be stopped.
STOP SEEING THESE MOVIES!!!!

[gayzilla]

Sorry, but I am going to CREAM all over Transformers: Revenge of the FAllen and I am sure it will have far more faults than Watchmen. and please don't hate on me for it. I'm sure I will be able to support my CREAMERY, despite it's faults. Just remember, a film does not have to be perfect for it to be loved.

and I'm with ya filmjunki on that Green Hornet thing. but you can add to that list for me Green Lantern, the Shadow, and the Phantom. Are there people who really care about these characters?

[FilmJunkie1114]

Originally Posted by gayzilla

Sorry, but I am going to CREAM all over Transformers: Revenge of the FAllen and I am sure it will have far more faults than Watchmen. and please don't hate on me for it. I'm sure I will be able to support my CREAMERY, despite it's faults. Just remember, a film does not have to be perfect for it to be loved.

and I'm with ya filmjunki on that Green Hornet thing. but you can add to that list for me Green Lantern, the Shadow, and the Phantom. Are there people who really care about these characters?

I'm with you on all except Green Lantern who I dig, but all of these classic newspaper comic strip/radio heroes have made for terrible films, and unless someone can really break the mold, I just don't get their appeal.

[SkyNet]

how exactly is Heath ledger going to verify any rumors for Batman 3?!?!

(sorry, had to mention that)!

[a7xfan]

Originally Posted by SkyNet

how exactly is Heath ledger going to verify any rumors for Batman 3?!?!

(sorry, had to mention that)!

makes no sense at all, just a really crap joke.

[FilmJunkie1114]

Originally Posted by SkyNet

how exactly is Heath ledger going to verify any rumors for Batman 3?!?!

(sorry, had to mention that)!

That was kind of the point of including him. I also find it humorous that you were wondering how Heath Ledger can respond when he is dead, but you apparently think it is perfectly natural that Jesus, Xenu, and a man who has been dead for 10 years to come out and talk about a Batman movie.

[Tweek]

Originally Posted by FilmJunkie1114

2) No more bold opposing views without examples as to why you hold that opinion. If you hated Slumdog Millionaire despite how much people loved it, that is perfectly fine, but “the movie is stupid and overrated” is not a strong enough reason. Mention the performances, the editing, the pacing, the plot, but at least have backing to your assessment.

Why is "Movie kicked ass!!!!!" more justifiable than "Movie sucked!!!!"? It seems like that's what you're saying. If I'm wrong, feel free to give me the what-for!

3) I would like one person to enlighten me as to why I should give two shits at this point for the long-gestating “Green Hornet” project. I am a loyal follower of Seth Rogen, Stephen Chow, Kevin Smith, and Michel Gondry, all of whom have been involved at some point or another at trying to get the project moving, and yet I still can’t grasp why a masked vigilante with an Asian sidekick is in such high demand in Hollywood. In all honesty, the character seems to share some similarities with The Spirit, especially in appearance, and if that movie is any indicator things don’t look optimistic. I am not trying to be cynical, I just need someone to fill me in on what the Herculean appeal of this project is.

Have you read The Spirit? From what I read, the movie took many, many liberties. I haven't seen it yet, so I couldn't possibly tell you if the character himself was kept in tact.

[Tweek]

Originally Posted by FilmJunkie1114

That was kind of the point of including him. I also find it humorous that you were wondering how Heath Ledger can respond when he is dead, but you apparently think it is perfectly natural that Jesus, Xenu, and a man who has been dead for 10 years to come out and talk about a Batman movie.

You forgot about Gorlock!

[FilmJunkie1114]

Originally Posted by Tweek

Why is "Movie kicked ass!!!!!" more justifiable than "Movie sucked!!!!"? It seems like that's what you're saying. If I'm wrong, feel free to give me the what-for!

You raise a good point, but I think what my issue with this phenomenon is isn't being made clear. It's not the fact that someone dislikes a film that many people love, or vice versa. It's the fact that there are many people who will automatically stand in favor or opposition of a film simply because it is the "non-conformist" action to take. If you genuinely think a beloved film sucks, that's fine, but don't write posts how everyone is stupid for loving a movie and yet somehow the person posting it "more elightened", or that somehow that means they "get it" when others do not. Case in point; one of my favorite films is The Shining, and one of close friends hates it, but his arguments as to why he doesn't feel the film is good isn't a viewpoint I share, but I think it is a fair argument.

Originally Posted by Tweek

Have you read The Spirit? From what I read, the movie took many, many liberties. I haven't seen it yet, so I couldn't possibly tell you if the character himself was kept in tact.

I have read a trade paperback anthology of The Spirit; not awful, but not interesting enough to make me want to read anything else with the character.

[Rawlin67]

The Spirit should not be compared to Green Hornet because it wasnt the Spirit that made the Spirit suck. It was Frank Miller actually thinking he could direct that made it suck.

[fooknasty]

I for one hope that people here on joblo would take the time to write a little lengthier reviews. I love coming here and checking out what other schmoes have to say, and not just "sweet action flick 7/10" (I am just as guilty).

I know it is difficult to write a huge review (monotreme ) but I love to read them. Even if it's just 4-5 sentences, GIVE ME SOME DETAIL PEOPLE!!

[SkyNet]

Originally Posted by FilmJunkie1114

That was kind of the point of including him. I also find it humorous that you were wondering how Heath Ledger can respond when he is dead, but you apparently think it is perfectly natural that Jesus, Xenu, and a man who has been dead for 10 years to come out and talk about a Batman movie.

dont believe in jesus.. no idea who the fuck Xenu is.. is that the Scientology god.. in which case, obviously, i dont believe in that either.. and you said "The SPirit of Bob Cane".. thus you were talking about a SPIRIT not the actual man... so it doesnt matter that he has been dead for 10 years.

but you are right.. there is one huge thing this joblo community needs... less complaining about everything, but i dont know how to demonstrate that.

[CyclicNightmare]

This really isn't a rant.

General?

[Smiert Spionam]

Originally Posted by FilmJunkie1114

3) I would like one person to enlighten me as to why I should give two shits at this point for the long-gestating “Green Hornet” project. I am a loyal follower of Seth Rogen, Stephen Chow, Kevin Smith, and Michel Gondry, all of whom have been involved at some point or another at trying to get the project moving, and yet I still can’t grasp why a masked vigilante with an Asian sidekick is in such high demand in Hollywood. In all honesty, the character seems to share some similarities with The Spirit, especially in appearance, and if that movie is any indicator things don’t look optimistic. I am not trying to be cynical, I just need someone to fill me in on what the Herculean appeal of this project is.

The Green Hornet was created as a 1930's radio character first, meaning he predates The Spirit and even "The Batman."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Hornet

The Green Hornet is just such a cool character. Continuity wise, he's also the grandson of The Lone Ranger. I highly recommend checking out the 60's TV show if you haven't before, which can easily be found on YouTube recently.

[sirdizzy]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I agree with everything said thus far. Here's something else to throw in:

Movie fans, we as a whole have to start boycotting these shitty ass Meet The Spartans, Disaster Movie parody-type movies. The fact that when these are released and are the highest opening grossings of their respective weekends is an abomination and only encourages these morons to keep hiring 12 year olds to write screenplays and then turn said scripts into movies that gross more than many truly great and artistically visionary movies. Bad movies are one thing, can't avoid those, but true embarrassments to film and anybody who sees them that gross a ton of money need to be stopped.
STOP SEEING THESE MOVIES!!!!

Ummm one problem movie fanatics and film lovers don't watch these movies, the general fucking idiot population does. The stupid ass teenager who textes through the entire movie making lame comments to his idiot friends because he things he's so witty does.

I don't watch them because I know they are garbage and I can find a lot better movies to spend my money on to see. I have seen a few on dvd none I purchased or paid to rent but just borrowed to see how bad they were.

The plea you should make is that true film fans should wait outside theatres until they find someone who buys a ticket to this tripe and then beat the holy living shit out them and tell them you will be watching them and if you catch them buying another ticket to another piece of shit movie the next time you will be using a pipe wrench and a crowbar to make sure they never procreate. Its the only solution, true film fans don't see the movies anyways and we are not the target audience.

[jdparker]

Originally Posted by FilmJunkie1114

2) No more bold opposing views without examples as to why you hold that opinion. If you hated Slumdog Millionaire despite how much people loved it, that is perfectly fine, but “the movie is stupid and overrated” is not a strong enough reason. Mention the performances, the editing, the pacing, the plot, but at least have backing to your assessment.

Originally Posted by Tweek

Why is "Movie kicked ass!!!!!" more justifiable than "Movie sucked!!!!"? It seems like that's what you're saying. If I'm wrong, feel free to give me the what-for!

Sometimes I think it's okay to simply say, "The Dark Knight is fucking sweet" or "Rocky 5 is the worst movie in the history of the world." I don't think anytime someone expresses an opinion they should have to give a point-by-point analysis for why. Though, even if you don't make your reasons explicit, you should have reasons.

I wonder if people just aren't good at expressing why they liked a movie or didn't? For a lot of people it has everything to do with how a movie made them feel. We can shake our heads at something like Marley and Me, but just thinking about Jennifer Aniston and a cute 'lil puppy makes me all kinds of happy. And people like to feel happy! I bet when stupid people go to see a smart movie, they feel stupid and get angry with the movie for making them feel that way. That's just a theory though...

I think I may be rambling, but what'm really trying to say is that in certain circumstances it's alright to say, "Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood is the most bitchin'est shit ever," and leave it at that.

[sbunn10]

Originally Posted by Monotreme

Okay, here's one I have that may stir up some controversy, but I really fear that this is what's going to happen and I anticipate this cataclysmic event with great reluctance...:

Film fans, PLEASE don't CREAM over Watchmen and overexaggerate your love of it. Look, we all know that it's probably going to be a good movie - and I myself am anticipating it and hope that it will live up to my expectations. But I'm really afraid that, with all the hype leading up to it, response is going to be WAY over-enthusiastic, sort of like what happened and is still happening with The Dark Knight. Now, let me back up this statement: I LOVED The Dark Knight and anyone who has seen my top 10 films of 2008 list will see that The Dark Knight sits very snug at #5. I have it a 9/10 rating, saw it three times in theatres, and loved every second. But that said, I DO believe that fan response to the film was a little OVER-enthusiastic. The movie was #1 on the IMDb top 250 movies OF ALL TIME for the longest time, and now it's at #5, which is still waaay exaggerated. People were creaming all over it, claiming that it's the "best movie of all time!!!", giving it 10/10 ratings as if it were the new Citizen Kane... and as much as I liked the movie, I had to admit that while it was one of the best films of 2008, it wasn't THE best one, and it's certainly nowhere near my top 100 movies OF ALL TIME list - and I felt that reaction was just... exaggerated.

Anyway, back to my point: I really, REALLY hope that, with all the hype leading into it, Watchmen won't garner a similar over-enthusiastic response... PLEASE!

Well I agree that some people were overenthusiastic about The Dark Knight, but understand that other people loved it a lot more than you, without being unrealistic. I loved it, and while it may not be one of the best films ever made, it's in my top ten favorite films, easily. (It's not even in your top 100? Geez, you must have seen thousands and thousands of movies)