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Old 09-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Curiosity beckoned, so I began looking up some of the historical figures and how their real life stories actually correlated with Boardwalk Empire. Needless to say, there are substantial differences, however, I believe Empire sums it up best themselves: "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
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  #122  
Old 09-21-2010, 07:03 PM
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Curiosity beckoned, so I began looking up some of the historical figures and how their real life stories actually correlated with Boardwalk Empire. Needless to say, there are substantial differences, however, I believe Empire sums it up best themselves: "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
That's an excellent point.

I was discussing the film... i mean pilot (genuine mistake) with a friend after our second viewing. We were talking about certain quotes in the first episode that we thought would resonate in the future of the series. I thought "You can't be half a gangster, not anymore" was the quote to define the show. With prohibition, what begins as seedy politics with the occasional pinch will lead to furiosity in illegal trade among the cities in the years to come that defines our image of American crime.

I brought up two concerns with the show in our discussion, and funnily enough now they do not worry me anymore.

1. Because a good number of the characters have real life counterparts and because we know the general history of Atlantic City corruption in the first quarter of the century, a lot of the dramatic tension is left out the door. My friend recited your exact quote and gave your reason. I guess thats why it's pretty much one of the first things said. You fellas know what you are talking about

2. My overall concern for the show was how damn expensive it looks. Then i saw the budget of the first episode- 30-40 million... fuck. I then realized that the budget included the actual construction of the boardwalk, the costumes and many contracts, all of which stay in place until the show is canceled. Still, if Rome, Carnival and Deadwood are any indication, HBO can't always afford to keep period pieces past 2 or 3 seasons.

Though i was happy to hear this morning that they have already renewed the series for a second season based on the first episodes ratings alone. They apparently kicked ass. I hope it continues.
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  #123  
Old 09-21-2010, 07:26 PM
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Though i was happy to hear this morning that they have already renewed the series for a second season based on the first episodes ratings alone. They apparently kicked ass. I hope it continues.
Yup. Apparently, it nabbed 4.8 Million Viewers in the premier airing and the total rose to 7.1 Million, combining to the amount of 2 repeats following.

It's the most-watched debut of a show HBO has had in 6 years. The previous one was the premier of Deadwood in 2004.

I'm excited. I loved the pilot and can't wait to see more of the show.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/09/21/...atings-record/
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  #124  
Old 09-21-2010, 08:20 PM
I DVR'ed this show and watched it yesterday and I'm pretty hooked. I like the character of Nucky Thompson and curious as to his background a little bit. My favorite character so far is Jimmy. I like how he's trying to balance his personal life with being a errand boy for Nucky.
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I'm wondering why and who shot Cassimio
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  #125  
Old 09-21-2010, 09:06 PM
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I DVR'ed this show and watched it yesterday and I'm pretty hooked. I like the character of Nucky Thompson and curious as to his background a little bit. My favorite character so far is Jimmy. I like how he's trying to balance his personal life with being a errand boy for Nucky.
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I'm wondering why and who shot Cassimio
I think I need to watch it again, but . . . .

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It probably has to do with his refusal to go into the liquor business. Maybe Capone was in on it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:13 PM
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I think I need to watch it again, but . . . .

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It probably has to do with his refusal to go into the liquor business. Maybe Capone was in on it.
Precisely. In real life, no one really knows who whacked him, though Capone is suspected, but it definitely had to do with his disinterest in the liquor biz, so he got murked so that Torio could step up and run Chicago...
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  #127  
Old 09-21-2010, 09:27 PM
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I think I need to watch it again, but . . . .

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It probably has to do with his refusal to go into the liquor business. Maybe Capone was in on it.
Ok because I saw it coming from a mile away the way the scene was playing out but I was scratching my head at it. Thanks for the clarification.
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  #128  
Old 09-21-2010, 09:30 PM
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Precisely. In real life, no one really knows who whacked him, though Capone is suspected, but it definitely had to do with his disinterest in the liquor biz, so he got murked so that Torio could step up and run Chicago...
So we have Torio in Chicago, Arnold Rothstein in New York, and Nucky in Atlantic City..is that correct?
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  #129  
Old 09-21-2010, 09:33 PM
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So we have Torio in Chicago, Arnold Rothstein in New York, and Nucky in Atlantic City..is that correct?
Yup. And Luciano is in NY with Rothstein.
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  #130  
Old 09-21-2010, 11:14 PM
Ok. I really dug the whole conversation with Lucky/Arnold with Nucky in the casino. When Nucky said to Lucky to pretty much shut the fuck up when grown-ups are talking had me on the edge of my seat. Then Nucky beat the shit outta the
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wife beater and had him killed
..was epic.
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  #131  
Old 09-23-2010, 05:53 AM
i like eddie, nucky's butler. he funny

like smiert said best pilot ep of all times
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  #132  
Old 09-23-2010, 12:31 PM
Will need to rewatch but yes it was a fantastic pilot and I am certainly hooked. The cast is fantastic and I'm most excited about Capone.
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  #133  
Old 09-23-2010, 10:16 PM
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i like eddie, nucky's butler. he funny

like smiert said best pilot ep of all times
I don't personally agree it was the best pilot of all-time. Im in love with Dexter's pilot. and Chuck's. But it was pretty amazing and any time you have Scorcese directing the pilot, its gonna be great
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  #134  
Old 09-24-2010, 12:22 AM
Just finished watching it and this is definitely one show I will be following. Awesome.

It reminds me of Rome in that it mixes historical characters with fictional ones and deals with a historical time. I expect that it will generally follow the actual history while taking liberty with the characters.

Here are some thoughts;
-I literally cheered when I saw fucking Omar! Michael K. Williams seems to have a reoccuring character on the show, wicked!
-"Nice talking to you, I'm Jimmy Darmody" *shakes hand "Al Capone" (!)
-hints of a complicated backstory with Nucky (with his wife, babies, etc.)
-Eddie the Butler could be awesome ("We were fucking Eddie, fucking!!")
-The fact that Nucky had two cops pick up that bastard in broad fucking daylight, taking him out into the ocean, beat him to death with brass knuckles and throw him in the Atlantic is just beyond bad-ass & ballsy.

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Old 09-24-2010, 11:24 PM
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Just finished watching it and this is definitely one show I will be following. Awesome.

It reminds me of Rome in that it mixes historical characters with fictional ones and deals with a historical time. I expect that it will generally follow the actual history while taking liberty with the characters.

Here are some thoughts;
-I literally cheered when I saw fucking Omar! Michael K. Williams seems to have a reoccuring character on the show, wicked!
-"Nice talking to you, I'm Jimmy Darmody" *shakes hand "Al Capone" (!)
-hints of a complicated backstory with Nucky (with his wife, babies, etc.)
-Eddie the Butler could be awesome ("We were fucking Eddie, fucking!!")
-The fact that Nucky had two cops pick up that bastard in broad fucking daylight, taking him out into the ocean, beat him to death with brass knuckles and throw him in the Atlantic is just beyond bad-ass & ballsy.
Agree with every word. I just got around to seeing the pilot earlier tonight and experienced all of these moments, and then some. Has Scorsese done TV before? I can't think of any times that he has besides the occasional commercial and music video. Anyway, HBO's stuff has always been very cinematic, but this is something ELSE. Scorsese truly brings something unique to the table, and I hope he directs more episodes down the line, seeing as he's involved in the show (exec producing) and all. Some other thoughts:

- Michael Shannon is such a BADASS. I can't wait to see more of his character. He's just too cool for school.
- I don't know the guy who edited this, but he must be some Thelma Schoonmaker protege because he has her editing style nailed down to a T. It was absolutely thrilling to watch - the editing was impeccable.
- Production and costume design was flawless as well. God knows how much this is costing HBO, but by god, don't stop!
- The telephone booth scene was awesome!
- Midget boxing match? What? :P
- Michael Pitt blasting that guy's head off with a shotgun? Intense!

The cast is spectacular, the show looks fascinating, the characters are interesting, it really has it all. HBO are BACK. This has the potential to be the best show on television. So far, so good!
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  #136  
Old 09-26-2010, 07:45 PM
15 minutes until the next episode is on. Have it on DVR and hope it keeps up with the great pilot episode.
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  #137  
Old 09-26-2010, 09:54 PM
Goddamnit, this shit needs to go online NOW!
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  #138  
Old 09-26-2010, 09:57 PM
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Goddamnit, this shit needs to go online NOW!
Haha I'm with ya brother.
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  #139  
Old 09-26-2010, 10:19 PM
Very solid episode. The characters are already growing at a ridiculous pace. Capone shines again
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  #140  
Old 09-27-2010, 01:35 AM
"You....yeah....you can go jump in a fuckin' lake."

Promo for next week's episode, "Broadway Limited": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzf6v7KG_i8

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  #141  
Old 09-27-2010, 04:40 AM
Love me some Gretchen Mol! I thought she was going to be an old girlfriend, not his mother!
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:45 PM
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Love me some Gretchen Mol! I thought she was going to be an old girlfriend, not his mother!
Yeah that was weird. Not sure about the casting.
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  #143  
Old 09-27-2010, 01:48 PM
Good second ep, but you could tell that Scorcese never directed it. Bit dissapointed that he isn't doing them all. But then again, that would be being greedy

8/10
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Old 09-27-2010, 03:31 PM
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Yeah that was weird. Not sure about the casting.
According to Terrence Winter, apparently, his mom had him at 14 years-old, so it kindof makes sense, but I do think that whole scene was intentionally misleading and cleverly done as well....

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  #145  
Old 09-27-2010, 05:04 PM
The pilot was the bang, this episode was the simmer. It doesn't matter though because i didn't even realize how fast this damn show flies by. The second it ended I was simply clamoring for more. Michael Shannon is creepy as fuck as the agent and I'm loving it. The same goes for Michael Sthulberg as Rothstein.

Oh, and the whole Gretchen Mol scene confused the hell out of me. I thought she was his sister! I need to keep focus too because I was confused towards......

Spoiler:
who came out of the forest. I had to watch Smiert's promo for next week to finally knock on my skull to know who that was.



This show defintiely needs to warrant a second episode viewing for me.
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  #146  
Old 09-27-2010, 05:05 PM
I agree with Smiert on the mother issue...looks to be an interesting relationship, another great episode with some good character development but no Omar! They're teasing us with him! Can't wait for next week. This show is fast becoming a favorite already.

I agree with Mr.Hyde807 I will have to rewatch both episodes as I was a bit confused who that dude was too!

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  #147  
Old 09-27-2010, 06:31 PM
I loved how Nucky blew the 3,000 that Jimmy gave back to him. LOL I bet Jimmy learned his lesson and doesn't go behind Nucky again.
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:50 PM
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I loved how Nucky blew the 3,000 that Jimmy gave back to him. LOL I bet Jimmy learned his lesson and doesn't go behind Nucky again.
Haha yeah, that was cold!
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  #149  
Old 09-27-2010, 07:01 PM
Of course, Nucky will get a nice kickback from the casino anyway.
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  #150  
Old 09-28-2010, 03:56 PM
ending was hysterical. top ep
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  #151  
Old 09-28-2010, 08:45 PM
Great Episode. I loved the moment when Rothstein told the moral of the cue ball choking story. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of Sthulbarg. I've been wanting to see more of him acting since A Serious Man.

The scene with Jimmy's mother threw me off too. The way she reacted seemed a bit more like something a lover of his would do. Not his mom.

P.S. Looks like we're finally gonna see Micheal K. Williams in the show. Sweet. Funny to see him on the show after seeing Bubbles (Andre Royo) show up on Fringe.

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Old 09-28-2010, 08:53 PM
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The scene with Jimmy's mother threw me off too. The way she reacted seemed a bit more like something a lover of his would do. Not his mom.
I'm pretty sure that was the point, looking forward to seeing some more of this relationship develop.

Yeah after watching the preview for last week O'm excite to see Omar. Come on Ep 3!!
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  #153  
Old 09-29-2010, 12:24 PM
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Great Episode. I loved the moment when Rothstein told the moral of the cue ball choking story. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of Sthulbarg. I've been wanting to see more of him acting since A Serious Man.
ah yes! thought i recognised him. a class act
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  #154  
Old 10-03-2010, 09:27 PM
"Put them labels on straight, no glue drippin' from the sides."
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  #155  
Old 10-03-2010, 11:08 PM
Holy crap tonight's episode was phenomenal!!! Loved the opening scene!
"He's fat."
"What the fuck does that supposed to mean?"
"He thought...fucking Aristotle."

"What's motherfucker mean?"

So many great scenes...Michael Shannon was badass in this episode
The Sheriff getting caught trying to smother the witness
The Dentist scene...hilarious with the mom translating what the guy said
"Dumb Girls Know How to Make Love"
Nucky and Jimmy's mom in the Fortune Teller's place
The Poker scene
The scene in the dressing room with Nucky's girl and Mrs. Schroeder
Shooting the guy, who was already dead.

On top of all that...so many great subtle moments showing how deeply the war affects Jimmy.

Watching it again!
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  #156  
Old 10-03-2010, 11:20 PM
My favorite scene was the 15 second one with Nelson (Michael Shannon) and his wife.

"The roast is good."

Talk about efficient character development.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:17 AM
last nights episode was fantastic, you guys pointed out the great parts. just another appreciative comment

also, i've never been a fan of Paz de la Huerta, whose plastic surgery always seemed to only make her look worse (and shes only in her mid twenties), but i have to admit she won me over in this episode, especially when she tells Nukki she'd have his baby if he'd like. "it'd ruin my figure, but i'll do it if thats what you want.". I don't know how she did it but she managed to deliver those lines in the most empathetic way possible. I love her accent too.

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  #158  
Old 10-04-2010, 04:22 PM
Yep my favorite episode so far, loving all the character work and the time goes so fast, I wish it was longer! Can't wait for next week's episode.
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  #159  
Old 10-04-2010, 08:26 PM
The slow burn is still rolling, but I'm sure as hell not going anywhere. I loved the "interrogation" scene, as well as the moments involving Jimmy's realization of his place with his family.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:21 PM
I guess it's a slow burn in terms of there being little action, but every episode flies by. This latest ep was probably the second best after the premiere. The opening scene was fantastic and Michael K. Williams' monologue pretty much solidified that he is going to be another standout character. "Well... I ain't buildin' no bookcase."

This episode definitely set up some potentially great shit. Next week's ep should be nuts.
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