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Old 11-07-2011, 06:33 PM
Fans of V for Vendetta are really starting to annoy me

Fans that take this film seriously are 10x worse than fans that take Fight Club seriously ( I love FC but mostly because its funny as hell, not because of the Project Mayhem message).
My Facebook news feed on the 5th was full of "Remember remember the 5th of November" and "Ideas are bullet proof!!". Now, I love my friends to death but come on, enough already!

First off, the film isnt even that great to begin with. It's run time is too long and the direction sucks (I think the Wachowski bros should of directed it instead of the director for freakin Ninja Assassin. Would of probably done the graphic novel justice} Portman's accent comes and goes through out the film. The message in the film comes across waaaay too preachy imo.

And I don't want to get political but the Occupy Wallstreet protesters and their love for Guy Fawkes is downright nauseating.







"Ideas are bullet proof brah! Fuck yeah! Power to da people!"
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:36 PM



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-bullets.html
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:57 PM
I liked the film when I first saw it. But I disliked it more and more over time. They kind of beat you over the head with the message. They leave nothing to metaphor, nothing to the imagination, and nothing to thought.
However a friend of mine tells me it's his favorite movie, and how he loves the metaphors in the film. And how brilliant it is, and how amazing the script and the direction is. Bleh....

As for the Occupy movement, I see nothing wrong with using Fawkes as a mascot. Using a radical political avenger as a mascot for a largely radical political movement makes sense.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:03 PM
The book was much better.


Either way, rallying around Guy Fawkes as a symbol of freedom is fairly amusing, as much as I tend to agree with the people that wear those masks.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:08 PM
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The book was much better.


Either way, rallying around Guy Fawkes as a symbol of freedom is fairly amusing, as much as I tend to agree with the people that wear those masks.
I just went off the other day on Facebook about this. All these protestors wearing the Guy Fawkes masks are fuckin' morons for several reasons. First, Guy Fawkes planned a violent revolution. Second, he did it with the intent of establishing a theocracy. Third, he failed.

And even with all that aside, if ppl are wearing the masks just because they saw V (which is infinitely worse), only in the film is the character about democracy. In the book, the theme is anarchy.

So yeah, as cool looking as they are, anyone in a Guy Fawkes mask who isn't going as V for Halloween can suck my dick.

Fin.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:58 PM
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I just went off the other day on Facebook about this. All these protestors wearing the Guy Fawkes masks are fuckin' morons for several reasons. First, Guy Fawkes planned a violent revolution. Second, he did it with the intent of establishing a theocracy. Third, he failed.

And even with all that aside, if ppl are wearing the masks just because they saw V (which is infinitely worse), only in the film is the character about democracy. In the book, the theme is anarchy.

So yeah, as cool looking as they are, anyone in a Guy Fawkes mask who isn't going as V for Halloween can suck my dick.

Fin.
Co-sign.

The movie is OK as a piece of entertaininment, but it isn't anything more than that. As you said, it completely missed the point of the book (or just didn't give a fuck about the point of the book and used the book's setting, characters and style to tell its own story) and the complete change in theme just doesn't work (especially given the setting). Alan Moore was justifiably pissed off.

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Old 11-07-2011, 10:14 PM
I like the movie. I really do not see many others outside of this site who even remember it at all. Way more Fight Club fans out there.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:18 PM
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:52 PM
I love the movie but that's just it, it's a movie and I hate it when people take it the wrong way and act like it's the ultimate movie and symbol to stand behind when they want to protest something. V is not revolutionary. He is a psychotic who is hell bent on revenge and anarchy and he hides behind the mask of revolution. Clearly the people who are in those pictures up top did not watch the movie closely enough.



I'm not going to lie, I've never read the graphic novel (weird considering I've read a lot of Moore's work, I've just never gotten around to reading this one) but the way I understand it is that they miss the point of the book.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:45 AM
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I just went off the other day on Facebook about this. All these protestors wearing the Guy Fawkes masks are fuckin' morons for several reasons. First, Guy Fawkes planned a violent revolution. Second, he did it with the intent of establishing a theocracy. Third, he failed.

And even with all that aside, if ppl are wearing the masks just because they saw V (which is infinitely worse), only in the film is the character about democracy. In the book, the theme is anarchy.

So yeah, as cool looking as they are, anyone in a Guy Fawkes mask who isn't going as V for Halloween can suck my dick.

Fin.
I think the mask just represents an idea now. For most, it is about this idea and not related to the true meaning behind the book or the movie.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:53 PM
I had no idea the film had such a backlash, I remember it being mostly praised when it came out. The comic is no less subtle then the film imo and I actually find the comic to be a disappointment. It's a very angry book and I personally feel Moore got lost in his message and forgot to create real people like he did so damn masterfully in Watchmen. It just doesn't read very well. Watchmen, an incredibly dense, layered work still has a pace and flow. V For Vendetta just seems to ramble and has moments of fits and starts. I know my cred (if I ever had any) is about to be shattered but the film is better imo. The films message and idea's are no doubt safer and more straightforward, but I feel it's still pretty ballsy for a big budget studio picture. The characters in the film seem like real characters while the the characters in the comic feel like Moore's opinions on paper.

Hang me now if you wish.

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Old 11-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Love the movie; love its message. Never read the book, but from what I understand about it, the movie was probably a big improvement.

I see nothing wrong with "Behind this mask is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof."

The V masks everyone is wearing stems from the whole anonymous movement - the OWS protesters didn't start that. I see it as a completely valid form of solidarity that is symbolic of what happens with the crowd at the end of the movie, not necessarily having any ties to the action V takes.

Some people may be crazy and do crazy things, but they are ultimately the problem, not the movie that influenced them.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:12 PM
Although I think the Occupy Wall Street movement is one of the best political developments to come along in quite some time, I really do wish some of the folks involved would get rid of their fucking V masks, and for the same reasons that Smiert listed above. Why not just wear an Ayatollah Khomeini mask while you're at it?

Oh, and the book is astronomically superior to the movie (as is the case with every Alan Moore adaptation).
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Old 11-08-2011, 10:42 PM
The book is indeed better. Alan Grant's four part DC Anarky series is far better in that vein.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:04 PM
Was I the only one who got the idea while reading the book that anarchy was only the first step and not the whole point?

I was? I'm such a douchebag.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:13 AM
The movie is a near masterpiece IMO. Up there with Road to Perdition and The Dark Knight as being among the very best movies to be based off of a comic book/graphic novel. Never did read the book, but it's not going to change my mind of the movie which blew me the fuck away.

Was going to have a "remember, remember the 5th of November" as my status on facebook that day, but forgot to and plus, I was out for most of the day.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:17 AM
I've never seen V For Vendetta and do not plan to until I read Alan Moore's comic. Here's hoping that I think more highly of it that Poop. I do find it quite irritating that people use V as a symbol when it's more likely than not a product of 4Chan so much as it is from Guy Fawkes himself.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Hah! It's funny cuz I follow (supposedly) Natalie Portman on Twitter. She had tweeted "Remember remember, the 5th of November" and I had totally forgotten that was said in this movie, of course one she starred in.

So I replied an "@" message to her and said: "What happened on the 5th of November again?"

Ah christ, good stuff.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:42 PM
"END the WARS"

I wish I thought of that one.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:41 PM
I'd rather be suffocated by V than Edward Cullen's sparkles, personally.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:56 AM
I hate V For Vendetta fans.
They all think they're better than us.
They all can go to hell, as far as I'm concerned.
And I mean that literally.
When they die, their souls should just go right straight to hell.
Why should the angels in Heaven or, for that matter, any of the rest of us stuck in Purgatory (& let's be honest here....if you're a member of this site, the best you can hope for after you die is to end up in Purgatory) have to put with 'em in the afterlife?
Let Satan deal with 'em.
Remember the 5th of November, my ass.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:24 PM
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I hate V For Vendetta fans.
Let Satan deal with 'em.
Satan deals with us everyday, he learned long ago to just give us his money and watch television like Al Bundy.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:54 PM
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The movie is a near masterpiece IMO. Up there with Road to Perdition and The Dark Knight as being among the very best movies to be based off of a comic book/graphic novel. Never did read the book, but it's not going to change my mind of the movie which blew me the fuck away.

Was going to have a "remember, remember the 5th of November" as my status on facebook that day, but forgot to and plus, I was out for most of the day.
Thank you!

Also, getting mad at people for mentioning V for Vendetta quotes on Facebook on November 5th is like getting mad at people for saying Merry Christmas on Facebook on December 25th. Get over yourselves.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:56 PM
Couldn't agree more with this rant.


De Niro puts on muscle for Raging Bull and he's fucking epic. Stallone gets fat for Cop Land. Bale starves himself for the Machinist. Portman shaves her head... wooooow. Fanboys love them some Portman and I think they give her a pass when she turns in average performances. People were ready to give her a statue for that shit.

Idiots wearing the Guy Fawkes masks, please don't fool yourself into thinking you're someone special. Here, let me scribble today's message on a piece of cardboard for you to hold, and you can ride your fix gear down to the Capital and feel important all day. Posers, all of 'em.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:11 PM
I just want to clarify that I don't hate V for Vendetta or their fans. Its just recently , with the Occupy protests its just been too much.

Also want to say that I do really admire the internet group Anonymous. They sometimes do funny/crazy stuff. It appears I was wrong in regards to them hacking Facebook though.

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Old 11-17-2011, 08:14 PM
Echo, what did this Anonymous group do on Facebook? Isn't this the same group of hackers that stole the Johannson nude pics and leaked 'em, etc. ?
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:52 PM
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Echo, what did this Anonymous group do on Facebook? Isn't this the same group of hackers that stole the Johannson nude pics and leaked 'em, etc. ?
Well, I thought they were the ones that spammed a bunch of porn on facebook but it appears they might not be the ones responsible.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...acks/231903258
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:10 AM
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Well, I thought they were the ones that spammed a bunch of porn on facebook but it appears they might not be the ones responsible.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...acks/231903258
Yeah, I heard about that shit going around on FB. Interesting.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:51 PM
Personally, while I like V for Vendetta as a film, I also think the Guy Fawkes mask thing is overdone. If they did it just for November 5th, I may have been fine with it, but continuing with it was not the right call. Although I very much sympathize with Occupy's grievances (though I do think they castrated themselves politically speaking by deciding to stay out of electoral politics), the ones who get all the media attention are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Poop, Frosty, and DorkisFig: Glad to hear I'm not the only one that likes it. I've actually come to appreciate it more in recent years given certain political developments, although for that reason, I don't watch it much because I don't need those kind of nightmares.
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