Star Trek Into Darkness

[echo_bravo]

If theres already a thread for this mods please feel free to delete this one but I didnt see a thread.

Anyways, this one looks pretty good. JJ Abrams is a decent director and I enjoyed the first Star Trek that he directed (absolutely hated Super 8 though)

[echo_bravo]

umm yes please

[sarah1980]

i'm so looking forward to this film been a Trekkie my whole life going to see this on Wed in Imax

[echo_bravo]

Originally Posted by sarah1980

i'm so looking forward to this film been a Trekkie my whole life going to see this on Wed in Imax

Yeah I might see it in IMAX as well. Not sure though.

[CuatroDiablos]

Don't look at IMDB cast list for this movie...fucking spoilers...even though I did have an idea on who he was.

[Roy Batty]

Already reading the identity of the mysterious Harrison has greatly diminished my interest.

[sarah1980]

i found out who he was playing last week i'm still going to see it

[athf1980]

looking forward to this movie. it looks like a fun movie nothing more or else

[jz68]

Originally Posted by sarah1980

i found out who he was playing last week i'm still going to see it

Is there anybody on the internet that doesn't know he's

Spoiler:

Kahn?

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by jz68

Is there anybody on the internet that doesn't know he's

Spoiler:

Kahn?

It's

Spoiler:

Khan

[ilovemovies]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

Already reading the identity of the mysterious Harrison has greatly diminished my interest.

I don't mind that. What I'm worried about is the spoilers I read about the movie's ending.

Spoiler:

Kirk dying and being resurrected by Khan's blood? WTF?!!

I really hope it just plays better on screen than hearing about it. Because it all just sounds extremely lame to me.

[diabloo]

This movie is awesome.

[PR0J3KT M]

just came back from seeing it. it was alright. i agree with what ilovemovies said.

[bill graham]

I saw it last night.
I enjoyed it more than the last one, (which I thought was overrated) but I feel the film does fall apart during the last 20 minutes and made me groan.
Also the flares/lighting are back and while they seem to be less frequent, they're more in your face, literally at one point it felt liked I just stared into a torch.

Having said that if you enjoyed the last one then you certainly enjoy this, just ignore anyone who tells yer this is the best in the franchise.

Spoiler:

As great as it was to see Alice Eve in her undies, there just didn't seem to be a reason for it

[Hucksta G]

Melodramatic with groan inducing cheese, I never cared for what was going on, but nice character dynamics and watchable enough fluff. (6/10)

[SpikeDurden]

Phenomenally entertaining and well crafted bit of relentless pop filmmaking. A joy from start to finish. Quinto and Cumberbatch are stellar.

[Moviefreek]

It was decent. Overall it felt very recycled and the story was flawed. Looked great from a technical perspective but I'd like a more original story. The last third was groan inducing. A decent ok continuation of the current crew but nothing more.

[lojob]

I'm planing to watch this movie on the weekend, but can anyone tell me if this is entertaining movie?

[AspectRatio1986]

IMAX 3D.....I'll be there....might have to wait until next week though.

[echo_bravo]

Originally Posted by AspectRatio1986

IMAX 3D.....I'll be there....might have to wait until next week though.

AspectRatio, definitely let me know what you think cause I'm not sure if I'm going to splurge on the 3D element. One reviewer said he got a headache (especially right away from the opening segment). I kinda get motion sickness easily so I'm probably skipping the IMAX 3D part BUT I do want to see it in IMAX (but without the 3D glasses) I'm really hoping that option is avaible in Phoenix cause I hear the sound effects are insanely awesome.

[xseanymacx]

Never been a Trekkie, enjoyed the first one Abrams directed and I still don't know who Cumberbatch is supposed to be. I feel as though this is exactly how I SHOULD be going into this movie.

Hopefully will catch it this weekend.

[Moviefreek]

Originally Posted by echo_bravo

AspectRatio, definitely let me know what you think cause I'm not sure if I'm going to splurge on the 3D element. One reviewer said he got a headache (especially right away from the opening segment). I kinda get motion sickness easily so I'm probably skipping the IMAX 3D part BUT I do want to see it in IMAX (but without the 3D glasses) I'm really hoping that option is avaible in Phoenix cause I hear the sound effects are insanely awesome.

The movie looked fantastic in IMAX 3D.

[CuatroDiablos]

I have to wait two fucking months to see this movie...I hope I can resists all the torrents that will come out in that amount of time.

[sarah1980]

Originally Posted by Moviefreek

The movie looked fantastic in IMAX 3D.

that it was

[Mr.HyDe807]

J.J. Abrams’s Star Trek reboot in 2009 had thatequal measure of respecting the fans of the original star trek, but with enoughleeway to make a summer blockbuster that fans who aren’t well versed in the StarTrek lore. There was a kinetic energy in the practical and computergenerated effects that made the world come alive, as well as a group ofcharismatic and engaging young actors who took up the mantle that acting legends like William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy have made a milestone. This was a moviethat felt like a new chapter in the Star Trek journey, concluding the2009 movie with endless possibilities of where to take this franchise into newand exciting directions (I could say “boldly go where no one has gone before”,but that would be a little cheesy). Unfortunately for the 2012 sequel, alsodirected by Abrams, the film seems so slap dashed with twist and turns that thecharacters’ journies and somewhat competent action sequences become muddled,never following the shining example the first film promised.

Instead, Star Trek: Into Darkness regressesinto themes and character arcs that Captain Kirk, Spock, and the rest of theEnterprise crew experienced in the first film. Kirk and Spock are the Starfleet’s Odd Couple, and continue to banter on their decisions regardingwhat to do in the midst of danger with the USS Enterprise’s crew. If anything,this dynamic is probably the strongest element in Abrams film, as Chris Pine’sKirk and Zachary Quinto’s Spock slip back in their roles effortlessly. Kirk is still the rowdy captain taking chances, while the Vulcan Spock is thesecond-in-command always trying to keep him in line. Their struggle heats upwhen a mysterious commander known as John Harrison begins to wage a one-man waron Starfleet.

This brings the story to a series of interesting twists andturns, while also showing the cracks in the foundation. The group dynamic ofthe remaining Enterprise crew is still there and works, but motivations regarding certain plot elements are mostly utilized in order for the rest ofthe plot to work. That may seem like a nit-picking argument, but when thescript almost blatantly separates characters in order to have a struggle foranother scene, then that seems lazy. Still, the story has minor shining momentsin the clumsy plot, mostly with moments of dialogue between the cast, and thevillainy of Benedict Cumberbatch’s John Harrison.

Cumberbatch screams presence as Harrison, which is thebiggest improvement to the most glaring flaw in the 2009 film, which wasunfortunately Eric Bana’s unwritten Nero. There is weight to the challenge that Harrsion brings to the Enterprise,as well as actual complexity between the Enterprise crew and Harrison.Unfortunately, this healthy dynamic that seems to set the stage in the middle act of the film slowly goes off the rails in the final act, where everythinggoes for cheap ploys to bring the film to a unsatisfying conclusion.

Abrams seems to just not have his creative heart in thesecond film, whereas the first one seemed to be something that strived to be awhole new vision of what Star Trek can be. There are smallmoments of creative action sequences that have actual stakes, unlike other CGI moments where the action seems like an on-rails video game. But, the story just seems compounded with one plot point that suddenly gets stacked on another plotpoint, never feeling cohesive as an actual story. Possible moments of conflictare just an excuse to bring us to the next part of the story, and when there isactual focus the script can create great emotional moments; only the followthrough to those moments just comes across as insulting.

The best way to sum up Star Trek: Into Darkness issimply a film that is all over the place. The script wants to go into all these directions, culminating in moments that work and some that miss the mark.The cast is game, Abrams’s direction seems apt to bring flair to another StarTrek film, but the story’s weight becomes over encumbered for its own good. There’s the spark from the first one somewhere in this film, it’s just lost in the script.

6.5/10

[athf1980]

4/5

just a fun movie. nothing more or less.

[Roy Batty]

I've got to say, so far, these summer blockbusters have been disappointing me left and right. Star Trek Into Darkness seems to improve in some areas where its predecessor failed, but has even more gapping plot holes. Harrison was good, but of course when his identity is revealed one can't help but think that Abrams and crew didn't really care about the movie other than to make a modern day carbon copy of an infamous Star Trek original. I'm hopeful with how this ends, we can expect Klingons to have a bigger role and for those 73 to return. It's also becoming increasingly obvious Abrams is not a fan of the series. Glad he's moving on to Star Wars.

6.0/10

[ilovemovies]

This movie is generally entertaining and a lot of the action is crisp and exciting but this is a VERY flawed effort and in many ways pretty disappointing.

A lot of the characters barely feel like the same characters that we have come to love. And those that sort of do still feels like a poor imitation of these beloved characters. This was a minor problem with the first film but it's a major problem with this especially because:

Spoiler:

the plot for this movie is essentially stolen from the original series episode titled "Space Seed" and the movie The Wrath of Khan.

Several scenes are directly copied from Wrath of Khan, especially Kirk's "death". And while that scene should have made me cry, instead it made me chuckle. And then Spock yells "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!" the same way Kirk did and this time it made me laugh out loud hysterically. Somehow, I don't think that's the reaction JJ Abrams was going for.

I say the action scenes are crisp and exciting, but not the opening scene. The entire scene set on the planet Niburu (I think that's what it was called, something like that) was just awful. Bad cinematography, choppy editing, terrible dialog. It felt like a bad parody of Star Trek. Ditto for the scene with the Kling-ons. It felt cheesier than anything on the television series or previous movies.

This movie wastes several good actors too. Bruce Greenwood and Peter Weller are great, veteran actors, but are given practically nothing to do. Heck, even Benedict Cumberbach doesn't really do much. He's fine here, but he's certainly no Ricardo Maltaban. Perhaps the actor who is given the most shaft here is Alice Eve. What is she doing in this movie? In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Carol Marcus actually served a real purpose beyond being a love interest to Kirk and the mother of his son. She was one of the people behind the Genesis device. But since there is no Genesis device in this movie, it renders her character useless. She's not even really a love interest for Kirk here. All they do is just a tiny bit of flirting. It doesn't go beyond that in this movie.

Despite everything I said though, I still enjoyed the movie. Opening scene aside, the action works very well, the movie moves at a decent pace, it held my interest mostly. But if I were to rank all of the Star Trek movies, this is probably my least favorite of them all.

Oh, and the Spock/Uhura romance? Still isn't working for me. And the scenes in the movie where they are having romance issues are just awful.

Oh and Anton Yelchin is still pretty bad as Chekov. He's not as painful as he was in the original, but compare him to Walter Koenig and you see what a poser this kid is.

[ilovemovies]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

I'm hopeful with how this ends, we can expect Klingons to have a bigger role and for those 73 to return.

Unless they drastically change their version of Klingons then good, god I hope not!

I'm sorry, but I thought this movie's version of Klingons sucked badly.

[butterhuggies]

I just download will watch later.

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by ilovemovies

Unless they drastically change their version of Klingons then good, god I hope not!

I'm sorry, but I thought this movie's version of Klingons sucked badly.

Yeah, the Klingon looked bad.

And what was the point of Alice Eve's character?

[echo_bravo]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

And what was the point of Alice Eve's character?

Ummmm eye candy?

Well the good news is I'm seeing this today but the bad news is it wont be in IMAX. My cheap ass friends were complaining about how expensive the tickets were.

I'm like "Dude, you drive a brand new car and make like 50 grand a year!"
CHEAP BASTARDS!!

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

Yeah, the Klingon looked bad.

And what was the point of Alice Eve's character?

The Klingon makeup looked pretty badass to me, a cool updated look on a classic star trek species.

Alice Eve's character contributed to the plot on two key occasions that I can remember at the moment.

Spoiler:

The first was disarming the torpedo and the second was her connection to/rejection of her father, the admiral. That last part confirms that she will be a trustworthy addition to the Enterprise in future missions. Anyways, I didn't mind her presence one way or the other. They'll probably give her more to do in the future.

I really didn't care about any of the plot holes that people have mentioned being in the film because, to me, none of them really effect the most important aspects of the story: Kirk and Spock's friendship, Kirk's struggle with his impulsiveness and disregard for regulations, the motivations behind the villain's actions, the themes of family and loyalty, etc...

Also, Cumberbatch nailed it as the villain, just a superb performance.

9/10, the first great movie of the summer.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally Posted by ilovemovies

Unless they drastically change their version of Klingons then good, god I hope not!

I'm sorry, but I thought this movie's version of Klingons sucked badly.

How exactly did they suck? They were barely in the movie! You see one w/o his helmet, that's it, ONE. And I don't understand the hate on the makeup job either. Did you want them to look exactly like the ones in the show?

All in all though, I don't understand the hate here. Their presence was merely a setup for a greater role in a future film.

People need to realize that this ain't your daddy's star trek, it's a reinvention which enables the filmmakers to take us to familiar places while still experiencing something new and fresh. The alternate timeline was a great idea.

[ilovemovies]

I agree that the alternate timeline was a great idea. The problem is that this ISN'T a reinvention. It's a pale imitator. That's how it felt like to me. Sure, they switch some things around, but in the end, it's almost exactly the same.

And Carol Marcus didn't serve ANY purpose whatsoever. She did in Wrath of Khan, but not here.

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by ilovemovies

I agree that the alternate timeline was a great idea. The problem is that this ISN'T a reinvention. It's a pale imitator. That's how it felt like to me. Sure, they switch some things around, but in the end, it's almost exactly the same.

And Carol Marcus didn't serve ANY purpose whatsoever. She did in Wrath of Khan, but not here.

I agree. I thought Abrams and Co. would have used the alternate timeline as a clean slate and tried to explore new villains and worlds. Unfortunately, it seemed--as you suggested--a pale imitation.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally Posted by ilovemovies

I agree that the alternate timeline was a great idea. The problem is that this ISN'T a reinvention. It's a pale imitator. That's how it felt like to me. Sure, they switch some things around, but in the end, it's almost exactly the same.

And Carol Marcus didn't serve ANY purpose whatsoever. She did in Wrath of Khan, but not here.

It is, quite literally a reboot. They didn't go as far in reinventing some of the characters as say, Nolan's Batman, but they've strayed enough from the original to feel fresh to me. Pine and Quinto are about as good as it gets for the casting of a young Kirk and Spock. They're a big part of the new energy that has reinvigorated this franchise. That said, I am probably not as big a star trek fan as you, and i'm deducing that because you've called this film "a pale imitation." Therefore, I think that probably makes it a little easier for me to be open to this new trek.

And as for Carl Marcus, I just didn't have any high expectations for her involvement in this film. She was mildly useful to the plot, but I think the reason for her presence her was similar to the Klingons in this film: it's more about introducing them to the fold.

[JoeChar4321]

Originally Posted by ilovemovies

I agree that the alternate timeline was a great idea. The problem is that this ISN'T a reinvention. It's a pale imitator. That's how it felt like to me. Sure, they switch some things around, but in the end, it's almost exactly the same.

And Carol Marcus didn't serve ANY purpose whatsoever. She did in Wrath of Khan, but not here.

It does walk the line of pale imitator to be sure.

Two points before my opinion on the film...

Spoiler:

Even though they are playing this as an alternate timeline, aren't they missing badly? In the original timeline, didn't Carol Marcus and Kirk know each other years earlier? Their kid was a full adult in Wrath of Khan.

Why did they need Khan's blood at the end when Bones had 72 other enhanced humans to draw blood from? Weren't they all the same?

Anyway...

7/10

Make no mistake, there is NO story of which to speak. This movie is ALL action practically from start to finish. What passes for a plot is entirely predictable if you’re a Star Trek fan but that’s not all bad. They certainly do borrow heavily from what we’ve seen before but they offer it in an alternate reality fashion. Some may call that a rehash but I’m sticking with the alternate realty take and I enjoyed the ride for the most part. The last fifteen minutes or so was very over-the-top and unnecessary but the film makers kept with their intension of delivering crazed action above all else. I admired that consistency. Some popcorn films try to shift tones and add “depth” and most just fail miserably at the attempt. This movie goes balls to the walls leaning on Star Trek mythology all the way through and makes no apologies about it. I had enough fun to overlook all the logic flaws, kind of like Kirk would tell Spock. Put logic aside and enjoy the ride.

[sarah1980]

i don't know where else to put this but do any of you guys know where i could get the music from this Into Darkness trailer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_r...1gmG_uvm-Uw-vA

tried soundtracks.net but they don't have it listed

[jaw2929]

Saw this one tonight. Really good and entertaining! I liked it as much as I liked the first one for sure. I can't ask for anything more out of a summer movie!