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Old 11-15-2012, 06:27 PM
House of Cards



The trailer is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULwUzF1q5w4

Cannot wait for this. Fincher's cold, clinical touch is all over this trailer, a perfect marriage with the subject of politics.

This is obviously a perfect role for Spacey. Hoping for a nice comeback after his years focused on theatre instead of film (he was great in Recount and Margin Call and pretty good in Casino Jack but those movies haven't made a huge splash and none of them were particularly stunning on a visual or tonal level). The rest of the cast looks pretty good as well.

I'm assuming this is just a trailer for the Fincher episodes of the series as it seems to focus mainly on the setup and all has that very precise Fincher tone. My only worry is that I hope they manage to keep up his level of visual precision and tone for the rest of the series. But Fincher's got some big directors on slate for the project (James Foley, Joel Schumacher, Charles McDougall, Carl Franklin, and Allen Coulter) so I'm gonna trust that it's not going to go to shit beyond that.

Also, Jeff Beal is doing the music which is fucking awesome. Loved, loved, LOVED his work on Carnivale and Rome (though I never saw the latter series) and I was bummed that HBO didn't bring him on for Game of Thrones. He would've been way better than Ramin Djawadi's hit-and-miss blandness but oh well. Pretty certain the music in the trailer is from the series cause it certainly sounds gorgeously Beal-esque, a bit like his work on Carnivale, lots of atmosphere and tension but this is a bit more muscular, more drive and hunger behind the sound - perfectly aligned with the sharks in Washington vibe I'm getting from the series.

It's maybe not the best idea for NetFlix to release all thirteen episodes at once but I for one, am pumped to be able to waste away a weekend blazing through this once it comes out.

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Old 11-15-2012, 07:55 PM
I'm in.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:49 PM
been waiting for this since announcement. Looks incredible, and compelling. Watch out HBO
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:47 PM
I'm debating over whether I should watch the original while I wait for this to be released.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:14 PM
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I'm debating over whether I should watch the original while I wait for this to be released.
I've heard great things about the original but with the pedigree of this cast and crew, I think I'd rather wait and enjoy this updated version all fresh.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:32 PM
BUMPITY BUMP.

Only a few days left till this premieres. Some reviews are coming out now and they seem very positive so far.

Also, Steven Soderbergh is apparently a fan:

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What TV do you watch?
Pretty much what youíd expect: Breaking Bad. Canít wait for that next season. Mad Men. Boss. I feel very lucky because David Fincher sent me advance episodes of House of Cards. Iíve got three to go, and Iím totally hooked. What I like about all those shows is that thereís an aesthetic thatís adhered to no matter who is directing it. They have rules, thereís a tool kit. I donít like seeing stuff where thereís no coherence to the choices that are being made. And all those shows are shot like movies. That train-robbery episode in the last season of Breaking Bad? They had like eight days to shoot that episode. Thatís good shit! And House of Cards is the most beautiful thing youíve seen on a screen. Oh, and I watch Girls.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:53 PM
Can't wait. Having access to all 13 episodes at once is going to be awesome. Soderbergh may be a little biased because he and Fincher are best friends, but I've read great things from other people as well, so my anticipation level is very high.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:59 AM

I'll see anything Fincher does. It could be a film about doing laundry and I'd watch it. And Spacey looks like he is gonna OWN this role.Count me in!
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:52 PM
Goodbye weekend.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:07 AM
I'm on episode 4, and so far so good. Political dramas are not really my cup of tea, so I won't be watching these episodes back to back. I guess I was kind of hoping for this to be a different take on the genre, but it's not. Though it is certainly far better than a typical run of the mill political drama.

Netflix's original programing is off to a very solid start.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:20 AM
I was gonna cram this entire series this weekend but because I'm so close to the end of Battlestar Galactica, I'm probably gonna finish that first. And of course the Superbowl on Sunday (not a sports guy but friends will probably hijack my TV for that). So this will be on the slate for next weekend for me.

Hope you guys report back with some more reactions, the critics only got the first two episodes which I think isn't enough to get a full handle on something so serialized.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:50 PM
Just finished the first episode. It was excellent. The writing is sharp, the performances are great, the editing is tight, and the cinematography is probably the best I've ever seen on a television show. It feels like you're watching a film. I can tell already that it's not going to take me long to watch the next 12 episodes.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:08 PM
Just finished the second episode. Even better than the premiere. Another thing I noticed was how great the score/use of music is.

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When Claire fires that woman, that was some ice cold shit.


I also dig the address the camera/voice-over device that they use. It's different from what was used in A Clockwork Orange, but has the same strange effect where the main character kind of invites you along and you slowly start to sympathize with him, even as he's doing terrible shit at times.

It will be interesting to see if the non-Fincher directed episodes live up to this fantastic start.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:22 PM

Just finished the first two episodes. LOVED it.

Kevin Spacey owns this role and I love when he is talking to you in the camera haha.

Fincher did a great job here. Can't wait to watch the rest of the season!
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:19 PM
I just watched the first episode, and I certainly dug it. Nothing too groundbreaking, Fincher's direction was definitely felt, and I'm certainly happy to check out the next episode (I'll take my time with this one, rather than plow through the episodes on a day off).
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:06 AM
I've only watched the pilot so far but I love it nonetheless. I'm fascinated with politics, and when it's placed under a microscope examining the deception and corruption within our political system--though fictional in this context--is still effective and is felt with Fincher's precision and cold color palette.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:56 PM
Just watched the first two which lived up to all my high expectations.

On the third one, a notch down in shot composition and editing (James Foley directed this one). Only fifteen minutes in so far though.

And yeah, the score is great. Love Jeff Beal, so underrated as a composer.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:18 PM
Third ep was pretty good but more of a standalone. Really dug the fourth.

Foley's not as precise a director as Fincher but few directors are. Still great stuff and I'm definitely hooked for the rest.

Loving Corey Stoll in the show (pretty much the only somewhat human character along with his girlfriend despite the hookers and blow). Also really digging Robin Wright Penn.

On to the Schumacher eps...
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:21 PM
I don't think Spacey is as good as Ian Richardson, though I'm biased; I loved the UK version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylu3x72WHTs I enjoy the fact he's still called FU. The 1st episode of the netflix version was highly enjoyable though.

I've only watched the 1st episode of this version but if you don't know how the story ends, I'd recommend avoiding spoilers like the plague, be much better not knowing methinks.

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Old 02-02-2013, 11:40 PM
Finished the whole thing .

Very much enjoyed it all the way through. Be forewarned though - the season definitely doesn't really conclude in any normal season finale kind of way (you could argue there was a place for a season finale end a few eps before the final ep though). It definitely leaves the door wide, wide open for the second season, probably since they knew they would have at least two.

I don't think this is quite as good as Breaking Bad but it's still a great show and I'm definitely hooked for a second season.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:37 AM
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I don't think this is quite as good as Breaking Bad but it's still a great show and I'm definitely hooked for a second season.
Where is that comparison coming from? lol
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:00 AM
5 episodes in. Very much enjoying it. Rich performances, sharp writing, delightfully cynical. I love the cinematic look. Fincher's visual template stands strong throughout each episode, but it's fun to see other directors (Schumacher?!) take their approach to the material. Good times.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:22 AM
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Where is that comparison coming from? lol
Haha sorry I've been writing these posts on my tablet and been too lazy typingwise to explain myself much. I was just comparing to Breaking Bad because it's my current gold standard for TV. So this lands a notch below the best of TV for me. There are some minor problems I have with the show but after watching 13 episodes pretty much straight through, I need some more time to process the whole thing before discussing further.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:56 AM
About half way through now and loving it. The Schumacher episodes were really good.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:20 PM
Wow, those last few episodes were incredible. What a finale. Not since the Breaking Bad Season 3 finale have I been so excited for the next season of a show to commence.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:59 PM
This is an outstanding show. Was a bit under the weather this week, looking for something/anything to fill the void left by Breaking Bad, and I tried them all. Game of Thrones, Homeland, Walking Dead, The Wire, and nothing came close. The Wire is very good I must say and I will get back to finish that one. But not until this is over.

Holy shit, everything written above is true, sharp dialogue, tight story lines, and of course cynical as it can be, it is a pure joy to watch. Plus, you get Spacey chewing up scenery in a character you can tell he loves playing. Who wouldn't love it though, the ultimate sleezeball politician.

Definitely cannot wait for more. Hopefully Netflix doesn't drag this one out the way AMC is doing Breaking Bad. I'm not suggesting they sacrifice quality to deliver it faster. Because the high quality is definitely what sets this apart. Just don't delay releasing the new episodes when fans are chomping at the bit is all.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:25 PM
Good...

...but not quite on the level of other top-quality dramas currently on the air (or in production, if you will), such as Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, or Justified. Spacey played the part terrifically, and I didn't have an issue with his accent as some others did (although not here, apparently), but I found the story telling and the writing to be problematic at times. It's definitely fun to watch Underwood manipulate all of these pieces into place, but that started to become a problem for me - they were just pieces: no substance, no reason for existing other than to highlight how ahead of the curve Frank is at all times (seemingly). It's like everyone else in Washington not on Frank's side is a complete moron. Sure, he botched his on-air interview regarding education, but that was so minor it ultimately didn't matter.

The breaking of the fourth wall was excellent at certain times, and pretty awful during others, with the early "I love that woman like a shark loves blood." being particularly over-written and, frankly, stupid. The entire third episode almost caused me to stop watching the show, due to how inane the writing was. So a girl dies because she was texting her boyfriend about a water tower that looks like a peach while driving, and this has the opportunity to "spin out of control"? Obviously this simultaneously allows Frank to skip out on the union meetings, in service of his plan to stall the education bill, but everything about Frank in his hometown was pretty bad.

Peter - as I'm sure many would agree - was the heart of the show, and my personal favorite character (being he's one of the only characters with any actual humanistic qualities), so obviously I wasn't too thrilled with how the latter episodes played out. It made sense in the context of things, and it played very emotionally, but what little respect I had for Frank was thrown out the window, and I don't know that there is anything he could do that would bring me back to his side.

This is getting a little long, so I'll wrap it up with a few other gripes: Zoe and Frank have no chemistry, which could be a function of their parasitic relationship, but that doesn't mean it makes for interesting television. Speaking of Zoe, she might as well have been named 'New Media Girl', because her role as the progressive face of news and media was that perfunctory. Claire's non-profit story line took too long to get going, although it had a pretty good pay-off. Claire was also given some of the oddest scenes in the show; the lady in the cemetery, for instance. And what was her buying Frank a rowing machine supposed to tell us about her character? Anyway, Doug is now my favorite character going forward, and had some of my favorite scenes of this first season (his speech at the AA meeting was really good stuff). Visually the show was fantastic, although the absence of Fincher after the first two episodes was definitely felt. Schumacher also did a very good directorial job with his episodes. And finally, I felt the season ended very oddly. I don't necessarily want any show to subscribe to convention, just to do what's best for its self as a story, and I felt that the show peaked a few episodes before the finale.

Seems like a lot of criticism, but I did actually enjoy the show quite a bit. It worked very well while I was watching it, but suffers when I think back on it. The theatricality of it worked for it and against it, in almost equal measure for me. I didn't exactly blaze through it like a lot of folks did, but I did watch it in fairly quick succession. If I had to give an opinion on the release format, I'd have to fall on the side of preferring the weekly release: allows for better, more focused discussion, and it also helps to allow viewers to pick up on some of the smaller details that they'd likely miss when plowing through the series. I guess I could say I'm excited about the second season, but since I don't find Frank all that compelling (he's a joy to watch as he goes about his business, but at the end of the day his goals are pretty standard for this type of story, and so are his character traits), they'll need to start fleshing out the supporting characters more than they have to this point. And while I'm sure this will be the case, I'd also like to see Frank face more adversity, because the ease with which he pulled everything off started out with me feeling like he's ingenious and ended with me feeling like things simply happened too conveniently.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:27 PM
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...but not quite on the level of other top-quality dramas currently on the air (or in production, if you will), such as Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, or Justified.
Hmmmm, I guess different strokes because Game of Thrones put me to sleep. Haven't tried Boardwalk Empire I am going to have to put that one as next on my list. I love Buscemi too.

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It's definitely fun to watch Underwood manipulate all of these pieces into place, but that started to become a problem for me - they were just pieces: no substance, no reason for existing other than to highlight how ahead of the curve Frank is at all times (seemingly). It's like everyone else in Washington not on Frank's side is a complete moron.
I don't think the show is meant to be taken so literally. But I would like to see Frank have to face his first curve ball. I believe that comes before the end of the season as I read somewhere that Frank
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has to resort to murder to keep one of his schemes afloat


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The breaking of the fourth wall was excellent at certain times, and pretty awful during others, with the early "I love that woman like a shark loves blood." being particularly over-written and, frankly, stupid.
That is one of my favorite lines of the show so far. In fact whenever Spacey talks to the camera are the highlights to me.

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what little respect I had for Frank was thrown out the window, and I don't know that there is anything he could do that would bring me back to his side.
Dude, I don't think you are supposed to be on Franks side, root for Frank, admire Frank, or like Frank even a little bit. It seems to me, the clear intent of the writing is to make Frank as despicable a human being as has ever walked the earth. If you like or admire Frank you should seek help I think, lol. I think we are supposed to be entertained by him, be entertained by the over the top satire portrayal of sleezeball politicians. But I haven't got the impression yet, currently 9 shows in, that we are to root for Frank.

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a function of their parasitic relationship
All of Frank's relationships are parasitic. He is an obvious sociopath.

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but that doesn't mean it makes for interesting television.
To each his own. I personally love loathsome characters. Although I do like them a bit better when they are both contemptible and admirable at the same time. When they have more than one side, Like Walter White. Which is why Breaking Bad is by far the best thing on TV. This is a real close second for me though.
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:07 PM
^ What do you mean when you say the show isn't supposed to be taken "so literally"? Is it allegory, then? You say it's satirical in nature, but the show doesn't really justify that claim. And if you haven't seen who Frank has to murder, then it sucks that you had that particular plot point spoiled for you, although it's kind of obvious.

As for my reaction to Frank: Whether I'm supposed to find any positive qualities in him is besides the point - he's the character we're following in this story, and as you mentioned, there isn't that level of empathy between him and the audience that many feel with Walter White, Don Draper, Nucky Thompson, or even Dexter (which I don't think is a good show anymore, at this point in its run). And as I said, the breaking of the fourth wall was 50/50 for me; sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't.

Also, you quoted the "interesting television" part of my original post out of context, so maybe quote the whole thing next time so your response makes sense with what I was originally trying to say (which was tha Zoe and Frank have no on-screen chemistry, so the scenes they share tend to fall flat).

As you said, though - to each their own. I enjoyed the show, but I wouldn't say it did anything for me that other shows aren't doing much better (for instance, the political maneuvering in Game of Thrones plays better for me than it does in House of Cards, simply because of the ease with which Frank works everything and everyone to his will, plausibility be damned). Spacey is killing the performance, it's just too bad he's not being given more to work with.

As a side-note, I'm about halfway through the UK version of the series, and am enjoying it a lot. Anyone who liked this show should definitely check it out.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:40 AM
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^ What do you mean when you say the show isn't supposed to be taken "so literally"? Is it allegory, then? You say it's satirical in nature, but the show doesn't really justify that claim.
Yeah satire isn't the word I was looking for there. It was late and I was too buzzed to think. What I meant to say is that the show is obviously embellished and exaggerated for entertainment purposes. I think you are taking it to literally.

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Also, you quoted the "interesting television" part of my original post out of context, so maybe quote the whole thing next time so your response makes sense with what I was originally trying to say (which was tha Zoe and Frank have no on-screen chemistry, so the scenes they share tend to fall flat).
You said, " Zoe and Frank have no chemistry, which could be a function of their parasitic relationship, but that doesn't mean it makes for interesting television." Which is an opinion. They are using each other, which is obvious, and you don't find that entertaining. I merely replied that I am entertained by their loathsome behavior. In fact, now that I have finished the show and Zoe
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has all of a sudden had a "come to Jesus" moment and turned, I do not like her character near as much


It is an opinion, not a fact. You stated as though your opinion were fact.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:16 PM

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Yeah satire isn't the word I was looking for there. It was late and I was too buzzed to think. What I meant to say is that the show is obviously embellished and exaggerated for entertainment purposes. I think you are taking it to literally.



You said, " Zoe and Frank have no chemistry, which could be a function of their parasitic relationship, but that doesn't mean it makes for interesting television." Which is an opinion. They are using each other, which is obvious, and you don't find that entertaining. I merely replied that I am entertained by their loathsome behavior. In fact, now that I have finished the show and Zoe
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has all of a sudden had a "come to Jesus" moment and turned, I do not like her character near as much


It is an opinion, not a fact. You stated as though your opinion were fact.
Which is any different from how you relay your opinion? Should I add, "I think..." or "In my opinion..." before or after everything I write? I'd assumed that it was obvious that what I was saying was my opinion.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:40 AM

Bump

What did you all think of the season 2 premiere? WOW

I'll probably try and watch most of the season 2 episodes this weekend.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:50 AM
Will be watching most of the episodes today.

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Old 02-14-2014, 11:49 AM
Not sure when, but I'll have this entire season done this weekend.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:02 PM
Hopefully gonna get to a few of them tonight and this weekend. Has it been a year already? Wow.

I'm excited for another season but worried that with the lack of
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Peter Russo aka the heart and conscience of Season 1
, the show will lose some of its range and become cold, hard politics with nothing grounding us. I loved the first season but I thought that was a mistake in the grand scheme of things.

Glad that people seem to have loved the first ep of Season 2 though.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:31 PM
That first episode was pretty goddamn amazing, top-to-bottom. And this is comin' from a guy who enjoyed, but didn't particularly love the first season.

Seems like they've finally hit their stride...
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:17 PM
4 episodes in. LOVE the tech storyline. This fucker is moving a breakneck speed
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:41 PM
Just finished the last episode and I'm very curious/excited to see where they take Season Three.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:47 AM
Finished the season last night; better in every conceivable way. Loved it.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:48 AM
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Just finished the last episode and I'm very curious/excited to see where they take Season Three.
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I absolutely lost my shit at the table pounding. The original deal for the show was just the 26 episodes. I don't see how they don't go to season 3, but this isn't a terrible ending, either, IMO.
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