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#1
06-02-2001, 02:08 PM
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Which 2002 Movie, if any, will Knock TITANIC to #2?
Since there seems to be pretty big contenders in 2002, I'm guessing that some movies will cancel each other out and other movies will simply be forgotten due to the bigger draw of obvious blockbusters [Episode 2, Lord of the Rings--Dec 2001 (close enough), etc.].
Question: Will any of these movies be good enough to knock TITANIC off the top of the Totem Pole? Or is knocking TITANIC to #2 almost impossible? (Many think that one reason why TITANIC did so well is because teenaged girls flocked to see the flick numerous times.) [This message has been edited by Raena (edited 06-02-2001).] 
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#2
06-02-2001, 02:17 PM
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I think that it's almost impossible to knock it. The movie didn't make $60-75 million every weekend, it made about $25 million every weekend. That was including the teenage girls flocking to see it, and other people just going to see what the big fuss is about. (including me) I don't know if any movie anytime soon can knock it out of it's place, although almost every movie coming out within the next 2 years can knock the others out of the top 10 spot. I just think that Titanic will be nearly impossible to beat, and it will take something of epic proportions like Titanic to beat it. Especially when you consider that Titanic came out in the winter, not the summer, when 'blockbusters' are rampant. (we do not need a Titanic replica *coughPearlHarborcough*)
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#4
06-02-2001, 02:34 PM
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Depending on the success of The Fellowship of the Ring - The Two Towers looks capable of it.
To highlight ban all music's point - This film is coming out in December, so, go figure.... [This message has been edited by ak (edited 06-02-2001).]
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#5
06-02-2001, 02:59 PM
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Yep, ak, and that's a good move on the studio's part. The Grinch came out last year in or around December, and became the highest grossing movie of last year.
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#6
06-02-2001, 08:21 PM
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I find it very embarresing having TITANIC at number one. I don't think any of them will do it but if you had to go for one it would be any of THE LORD OF THE RING films.
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#8
06-02-2001, 09:24 PM
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It will be nearly impossible next year for a film to top Titanic's $600 million U.S. gross (let alone its $1.8 billion worldwide gross). If I had to give one film a shot, I'd say it'd be Star Wars: Episode II, but I think that'll top out at $470 million (gaining $40 million on Phantom Menace for having a better script and teenage girls flocking to see Hayden Christensen).
I don't know about any of the Lord of the Rings films -- the hype simply isn't there yet. When people start knowing it's coming, then ask me. But I don't think The Two Towers has a chance in hell -- it and The Matrix: Reloaded are going head-to-head, so I don't think either film will top $150 million.
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#9
06-02-2001, 09:46 PM
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BTW, I think this B.O numbers are idiotic, since they are based on the amount of money, not the number of admissions. Since inflation makes the value of dollar go smaller, the prizes of tickets get more "expensive" and films make more money, even if they get less admissions.
The popularity of movies should be based on the number of admissions, not the amount of money. The all time top lists would look very different, if they would be done properly, and we would see a lot more old movies in them.
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#10
06-02-2001, 10:23 PM
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Antbond, 1.7 million people downloaded the first Lord of the Rings teaser within 24 hours. That beat out the Phantom Menace trailer's debut by 700,000 people. I would say the hype is there...
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#11
06-03-2001, 12:36 PM
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True, Ban All Music, but again, less than 10% of The Phantom Menace's audience was online. I'm not saying that's the reason it got less downloads, I'm saying Lord of the Rings is known only (with a few exceptions) to the online community. Again, my reason for the download numbers is simple: While Lord of the Rings was internet-only, TPM's trailer debuted on Entertainment Tonight (where I first saw it) and was seen on prints of The Waterboy and Meet Joe Black, shown a day before it was online. If you'd seen it there, why download it?
I mean, I've seen the new Fellowship of the Ring trailer -- and I liked it. However, I'm sure as hell not going to sit through a 33MB download to see it again. [This message has been edited by ANTBond007 (edited 06-03-2001).]
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#12
06-03-2001, 07:00 PM
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The initial Lord of the Rings trailer was put out in front of 13 Days in January.
And if LOTR is known only to the internet community, how did it survive all those years when the internet was an unkown commodity? I think it's fair to say the internet only started being big in homes around 1995-ish. LOTR was written in the early 1950's. There was no internet community for 45 years of its existence.
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#13
06-04-2001, 02:12 AM
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possibly...
spiderman queen of the damned blade2 could come close episode 2 scooby doo!!!!!! men in black 2 sum of all fears austin powers 3 terminator 3 scorpian king meet the fockers(meet the parents sequel) harry potter chamber of secrets james bond 20 star trek x matrix reloaded x-men 2 american psycho 2 bad boys 2 basic instinct 2 batman beyond!!!! batman year one blair witch prequel blue streak 2 cube 2 hypercube fantastic four farenheit 451 friday after next(friday 3) green hornet w/ jet li insomnia jason x john carpenters vampires: los muertos pitch black 2 pokemon 4 Shanghai Knights The Santa Clause 2 Spawn 2 3001: The Final Odyssey Timeline True Lies 2
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#14
06-04-2001, 02:13 AM
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possibly...
spiderman queen of the damned blade2 could come close episode 2 scooby doo!!!!!! men in black 2 sum of all fears austin powers 3 terminator 3 scorpian king meet the fockers(meet the parents sequel) harry potter chamber of secrets james bond 20 star trek x matrix reloaded x-men 2 american psycho 2 bad boys 2 basic instinct 2 batman beyond!!!! batman year one blair witch prequel blue streak 2 cube 2 hypercube fantastic four farenheit 451 friday after next(friday 3) green hornet w/ jet li insomnia jason x john carpenters vampires: los muertos pitch black 2 pokemon 4 Shanghai Knights The Santa Clause 2 Spawn 2 3001: The Final Odyssey Timeline True Lies 2
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#15
06-04-2001, 10:51 AM
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Actually, ANTbond, Lord of the Rings has been known for a long time. The books have been translated into over 30 languages, and they've sold millions upon millions. (a LOT more than 1.7 million people; about 10-15 million more) Also with the screening of the footage at Cannes and New York, NY...all of the critics have been raving about it, the buzz is very positive. (A synopsis of the footage was featured in Entertainment Weekly)
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#17
06-04-2001, 07:12 PM
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I think the films that will put up the best fight for the top spot are
Artificial Intelligiance Star Wars Episode 2 Lord Of The Rings 1 Lord Of The Rings 2 But hopefully A.I. will have the pleasure to knock Titanic out of it's undeserving spot.
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#18
06-05-2001, 09:33 AM
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ArkAngel, I'm not sure if you mentioned X-Men 2but I think it has potential. I'm quite sure this movie won't be shelfed since htye already planned out about 5 X-Men movies but True Lies was a good movie and I would DIE to see part 2 where Jamie Lee Curtis couldn't play in the next Halloween installment but couldn't due to playing in that movie.
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#19
06-05-2001, 06:05 PM
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Alexander the Great certainly sounds epic enough to knock Titanic in that sense, but I don't with the very little publicity of it thus far and its' almost definite R rating it probably will make a decent amount of money although nothing compared to the Titanic.
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#20
06-06-2001, 07:25 PM
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Okay I dont think any movie in 2001 or 2002 will knock TITANIC to #2. It wont happen for a very long time or ever. I dont know why TIT
was so big it was only okay (4/10)!!
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#21
06-06-2001, 07:27 PM
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#22
06-08-2001, 08:02 PM
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WEll, it's not gonna be Episode II. With episode I, it had been a while since SW fans had seen a new star wars film, so they saw it and saw it and saw it repeated times. I saw it twice. But with this one... Instead of seeing it twice, I'll probably watch it, and rent Ep. I afterwards. And I'm pretty sure many will do that too.
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#24
06-09-2001, 09:08 AM
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Pearl Harbor is tanking it here in the U.S. and may not even break the 250 million dollar mark. I seriously doubt it can even come close to challenging, unless foreign countries enjoy seeing the U.S. get smacked around. [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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#25
06-09-2001, 09:58 AM
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It'd be really great to see "Spider-Man" take out "Titanic", but I doubt that will happen...
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#26
06-09-2001, 11:34 AM
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#27
06-09-2001, 08:48 PM
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Perhaps I should rephrase: Lord of the Rings, the series of films, is known mostly to the internet community exclusively at this point.
As for the trailer -- there was an online trailer released long before the one attached to Thirteen Days.
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#28
06-09-2001, 10:55 PM
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That wasn't so much a trailer as a preview of what they'd done so far. About half of the stuff in the trailer has been totally retooled (i.e. no more people on stilts for the Ents, and the marching Orc army has been added to and the landscape redefined).
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