#5521  
Old 08-26-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
leafboy, your making us look bad (leaf fans)

as much as id like to beat the sens again this year, i am even starting to believe they will make a STRONG run this year, strong as in beating the leafs in the playoffs.

few things irritating me tho, everyone thinks Philly is going to be so damn good...but what really makes their team good, forsberg is w eirdo, injury prone he definately is, they dont have leclair, amonte and Esche is not a proven goalie yet, and yes they have Richards and Carter, but they havent proven anything in the NHL yet either.

The leafs still have a strong, if not stronger team than previously, we lost Nieuwendyk, Roberts and Mogilny, and gained Lindros, O'Neill and allison...i think thats an upgrade!!

GO LEAFS GO
Im not a huge Philly or Leaf fan BUT I have to disagree with some of that. You say Peter is a weirdo and injury prone yet Lindros and Allison have had there careers blind sided by injuries and both have something to prove in playing a full season. And also, Allison a very selfish player...but that should be just fine in that locker room Who knows what to expect from O'neil...he is a good player and his trade to Toronto was one class act in lieu of his very sad news.

Leclair has been mush since 88 left except when he is playing the Habs, Recchi should rebound back in Pitts, but wasnt his usual self, and Amonte did jack for them. Goaltending has always been Philly's problem, but the offence and defence wont be.

Just like Peter...IF Lindros and Allison stay healthy and can produce like they did 3 or 4 YEARS AGO, then yeah, Toronto made some very smart and cheap moves.

But regardless, its all about Boston anyways...

Zhamnov, Samsonov, Bergeron......Look out!
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  #5522  
Old 08-26-2005, 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by Haddonfield


But regardless, its all about Boston anyways...

Zhamnov, Samsonov, Bergeron......Look out!
Yeah, their center corps are insane if they've got Bergeron playing there...Thornton, Zhamnov, Bergeron. I think their D still needs some work; signing Brian Leetch isn't going to help as much as it might seem on paper. The entire East is stacked now, but Boston still has a good shot.
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  #5523  
Old 08-27-2005, 04:29 AM
im only rooting for boston part time cause my buddy is looking to crack their line up

GO BRAD BOYES
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  #5524  
Old 08-27-2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by bob
Yeah, their center corps are insane if they've got Bergeron playing there...Thornton, Zhamnov, Bergeron. I think their D still needs some work; signing Brian Leetch isn't going to help as much as it might seem on paper. The entire East is stacked now, but Boston still has a good shot.
Bringing back Travis Green helps them because they can move Bergeron to a wing. I will say tho, Id like this team a whole lot more if they kept Rolston. Im very excited to see what Zhamnov brings. After seeing how Nylander fit so well on that speedy 2nd line, I have to think a player of Zhamnov's nature can only take it up a few dozen more notches. Im also getting the feeling that Thornton is going to dominate the game this year. After seeing how well he has done during the lockout (granted he wasnt playing with stiffs) but I think the 2nd biggest move the team did was keep Murray. Were talking 117 goals the last 3 seasons in Beantown If the rule changes work, along with a lot of players, were talking 50+ this year for him. Im also wandering where McEchern plays. He has been an average to above average goal scorer. he has hit 20 or more in 7 of 11 full seasons and has never had single digits in full time work. He had two season cut in half and still hit double digits. We could see him with Zhamnov and Samsonov.

On D, you are right, its the big question mark but Im not too worried yet. I cant say Gonchar was a loss because he was really just a rent a player. Would have liked to keep him but hell frooze over and Pitts became a solid team again. They do have Boynton, Gill, Leetch, Moran, and Slegr. Solid guys but not much O outside Brian and Slegr. Hey, the brass says that they have some great looking kids ready to jump in, scouts say the same thing, guess we shall see.

I LOVE THE NHL!!!!!

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  #5525  
Old 09-03-2005, 06:26 AM
Robert Luongo=The Leafs next goaltender

I have a friend whose uncle is in the organization and word is JFJ tried to get a deal done for Luongo but that Florida wouldn't budge in hope that they'll keep him after the season. Luongo has expressed before that ever since he was a little boy he wanted to be a Leaf so hopefully he'll be right where he belongs next season.
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  #5526  
Old 09-03-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
Robert Luongo=The Leafs next goaltender

I have a friend whose uncle is in the organization and word is JFJ tried to get a deal done for Luongo but that Florida wouldn't budge in hope that they'll keep him after the season. Luongo has expressed before that ever since he was a little boy he wanted to be a Leaf so hopefully he'll be right where he belongs next season.

He's from MONTREAL! Unless he fell down the stairs as a child, children from Montreal do not grow up wanting to be Maple Leafs. Florida wouldn't be that stupid anyway.

So please, cut the bullshit.
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  #5527  
Old 09-03-2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by outsyder
He's from MONTREAL! Unless he fell down the stairs as a child, children from Montreal do not grow up wanting to be Maple Leafs. Florida wouldn't be that stupid anyway.

So please, cut the bullshit.
I read it in an interview a few years ago. I'll try to find it for proof.

Florida wouldn't do that anyway? Where in my post did I say Florida is dealing him? My post clearly states that they wouldn't budge. Read more carefully next time please.

Don't be angry because we're going to be getting a fantastic goaltender after this season.
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  #5528  
Old 09-03-2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
I read it in an interview a few years ago. I'll try to find it for proof.

Florida wouldn't do that anyway? Where in my post did I say Florida is dealing him? My post clearly states that they wouldn't budge. Read more carefully next time please.

Don't be angry because we're going to be getting a fantastic goaltender after this season.

No, apparently I'm angry because you guys are supposed to start a Cup dynasty this year, right?

And honestly, what could the Leafs POSSIBLY offer Florida in exchange for a goalie of Luongo's calibur?
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  #5529  
Old 09-03-2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
Don't be angry because we're going to be getting a fantastic goaltender after this season.
just like your team was going to get forsberg, niedermayer, and naslund eh? dream on.. and there's no way your team's winning the cup this year.. something tells me you guarantee a cup every year only to be extremely disappointed.. you shouldn't make a guarantee that toronto will win the cup when they get bounced from the playoffs year after year after year

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  #5530  
Old 09-03-2005, 03:20 PM
If Luongo ever had an actual team playing in front of him instead of the swiss cheese defense that is the Florida Panthers , he would prob be winning SCs every other year . He's easily one of the best goalies in the game right now , he just needs the right team , and wowzer , whoever that team may be , it will be tough to beat them in a playoff series .

Anyway , i'm liking the sound of Oleg Kvasha , Alexei Yashin , and Miroslav Satan as the Islanders front line right now . I think they quietly put together a competetive team , and Satan should easily replace Peca as the team's leader . One thing is for sure , looking at his playoff stats , he's the clutch playoff performer the Isles have been missing since their glory days in the early 80s , not that i'm comparing him to any of the former greats .

Go Islanders , and the Rangers still suck .
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  #5531  
Old 09-04-2005, 04:06 AM
The bitterness of Ottawa Senator fans is clearly present in this thread. Don't hate on me because I root for the better team. You know what? I'm just going to let my team's win and loss record speak for itself.
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  #5532  
Old 09-04-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by leafboy
The bitterness of Ottawa Senator fans is clearly present in this thread. Don't hate on me because I root for the better team. You know what? I'm just going to let my team's win and loss record speak for itself.
Now now, no need to bicker. The Devils will be better than the Maple Leafs as usual.
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  #5533  
Old 09-04-2005, 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
The bitterness of Ottawa Senator fans is clearly present in this thread. Don't hate on me because I root for the better team. You know what? I'm just going to let my team's win and loss record speak for itself.

Then you might want to omit the last 40 years.
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  #5534  
Old 09-04-2005, 08:22 PM

We should place bets on who gets injured first - Lindros, Allison, O'Neill or Belfour?

I'm guessing Beflour's back acts up by week 3.

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  #5535  
Old 09-04-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Indiana Sev
We should place bets on who gets injured first - Lindros, Allison, O'Neill or Belfour?

I'm guessing Beflour's back acts up by week 3.

In all fairness, I wouldn't put O'Neill on that list. He's not really more injury prone than anyone else.


But for the others? I'm betting first game. Big Z and the A-Train are in town. Should be fun.
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  #5536  
Old 09-05-2005, 10:22 PM
You know I already thought that Milbury was nuts or crazy but I think he now gone overboard.

According to foxsports.com. He has proposed a 15 year contract worth $67.5 million. The deal would break down to Dipietro earning just more than $4 million a season The deal never got off the ground due to insurance reasons.

Someone explain to me what he's still has a job for what he's done the past 10 years.

Oh well 1 more month until the season starts and I can't wait.
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  #5537  
Old 09-05-2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by horrorfreak13
You know I already thought that Milbury was nuts or crazy but I think he now gone overboard.

According to foxsports.com. He has proposed a 15 year contract worth $67.5 million. The deal would break down to Dipietro earning just more than $4 million a season The deal never got off the ground due to insurance reasons.

Someone explain to me what he's still has a job for what he's done the past 10 years.

Oh well 1 more month until the season starts and I can't wait.

And that's why Mad Mike is my favorite GM in the entire league.

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  #5538  
Old 09-06-2005, 10:12 AM
A 15 year contract?

Thats some funny stuff.

Im glad the guy is long gone from Beantown.

I still see the Isle as small time players...much like Montreal.

This is going to be fun! Days away from camps!!
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  #5539  
Old 09-06-2005, 07:53 PM
Some tidbits:

Devils D Scott Stevens retires, good riddance I sayl; never liked him too much.

Rangers sign former Penguins D Michal Roszival, a solid pickup...Roszival is extremely underrated.

And Pavel Datsyuk has signed with a Russian club, giving an FU to Detroit, who somehow found it more pressing to to resign Steve Yzerman than Pavel FUCKING Datsyuk.
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  #5540  
Old 09-06-2005, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by bob
Some tidbits:

Devils D Scott Stevens retires, good riddance I sayl; never liked him too much.

And Pavel Datsyuk has signed with a Russian club, giving an FU to Detroit, who somehow found it more pressing to to resign Steve Yzerman than Pavel FUCKING Datsyuk.
First bit of news: Although he's old, he's still pretty effective. Stevens and Niedermayer in one offseason is damn tough to take.

Second that I have here: For some reason I don't support the Red Wings, but I'm starting to realize why.
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  #5541  
Old 09-06-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by brodeurnumber1
First bit of news: Although he's old, he's still pretty effective. Stevens and Niedermayer in one offseason is damn tough to take.

Second that I have here: For some reason I don't support the Red Wings, but I'm starting to realize why.

Wow. Your two top D-Men gone is one season. AND YOU'RE STILL OVER THE CAP. Hard times ahead, my friend.






Oh, and I also head Vinnie Damphousse is retiring. I thought he had at least one more season in him.
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  #5542  
Old 09-07-2005, 10:33 AM
It's a shame Scott Stevens retired because there were legit rumors going around that he wanted to finish his career as a Leaf. That's ok though, I'm very confident in our roster in its' current state.
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  #5543  
Old 09-07-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
It's a shame Scott Stevens retired because there were legit rumors going around that he wanted to finish his career as a Leaf. That's ok though, I'm very confident in our roster in its' current state.

He wanted to finish it as a DEVIL or retire. You know? The team he's been with since 1991? Just because some idiot on a fan forum or fansite starts a completely false rumor, doesn't make it legit.
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  #5544  
Old 09-07-2005, 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
It's a shame Scott Stevens retired because there were legit rumors going around that he wanted to finish his career as a Leaf. That's ok though, I'm very confident in our roster in its' current state.
I doubt that Scott Stevens would go anywhere but the Leafs in his last year.

Oh, and syder, I'd say Rafalski is better than Stevens or at least I'd rather have him than Stevens.
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  #5545  
Old 09-07-2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
It's a shame Scott Stevens retired because there were legit rumors going around that he wanted to finish his career as a Leaf. That's ok though, I'm very confident in our roster in its' current state.
Why the HELL would Stevens want to finish his career in Toronto when he played for New Jersey for 13 years and won 3 stanley cups there. Just because he's from a city close to Toronto doesn't mean he wants to play for the Leafs.
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  #5546  
Old 09-07-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
It's a shame Scott Stevens retired because there were legit rumors going around that he wanted to finish his career as a Leaf. That's ok though, I'm very confident in our roster in its' current state.
What legit rumors because I never heard a single one unless the brainless idiots on the sportsnet forums are continuing posting stupid rumors like they usually do.

Anyway it's too bad Stevens retired but I was expecting it anyways I knew he was going to retire when he didn't come back for the Devils playoff run.

And I don't know what Datsyuk took the long term contract that he was offerred by Detroit instead of the 1 year deal Datsyuk wanted because he wanted to test unrestricted free agency.

EDIT: The Isles have resigned Rick Dipietro to a 1 year $2.5 million and Detroit has resigned Hendrik Zetterberg to a 4 year deal worth $2.65 million a year.

Darn I wanted to see the 15 year contract just so we could all call Mike Milbury an idiot again but we have the past 7 years for that.

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  #5547  
Old 09-07-2005, 04:35 PM
I read it in a mag a few years ago that Stevens has always wanted to be a Leaf.

And outsyder I've got some news for you pal. Last night the Sens and the Leafs prospects when head to head and we kicked your butts!!!! Same old story.
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  #5548  
Old 09-07-2005, 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
I read it in a mag a few years ago that Stevens has always wanted to be a Leaf.

And outsyder I've got some news for you pal. Last night the Sens and the Leafs prospects when head to head and we kicked your butts!!!! Same old story.

I wouldn't call 2-1 in OT a butt kicking.


But I DID see Dominic D'Amour get his ass handed to him by Danny Bois.

I also saw Charles Fontaine laying out some nice hits, and Kelly Guard putting up a damn good performance.
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  #5549  
Old 09-08-2005, 07:19 AM
Great news for Leaf fans!!!

Alexei Ponikarovsky has re-signed a 2 year deal! This guy had a spectacular last year overseas and I think he's due to break out this year so for the amount we paid for him he's going to be steal!

Also it seems as though Czercaski will sign with us depending on his physical. Another guy who has been saying all along that he wanted to be a Leaf since he was a toddler and now that dream is coming true. He scored 25 goals last season and with his improvement and new rules in mind I'm predicting a 40 goal season from him, at the very least.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
Great news for Leaf fans!!!

Alexei Ponikarovsky has re-signed a 2 year deal! This guy had a spectacular last year overseas and I think he's due to break out this year so for the amount we paid for him he's going to be steal!

Also it seems as though Czercaski will sign with us depending on his physical. Another guy who has been saying all along that he wanted to be a Leaf since he was a toddler and now that dream is coming true. He scored 25 goals last season and with his improvement and new rules in mind I'm predicting a 40 goal season from him, at the very least.
Ponikarovsky had 1 goal and 6 points overseas last year. Explain to me how that is a spectacular year. Don't expect a breakout year from him anytime soon.

Czerkawski provides a bit of help for the Leafs on the wing but at the same time he's one of the most inconsistent players I've ever seen and also one of the worst defensive forwards in the NHL. There's a reason why it took so long for him to sign somewhere.

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Old 09-09-2005, 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by chiefxcel
Ponikarovsky had 1 goal and 6 points overseas last year. Explain to me how that is a spectacular year. Don't expect a breakout year from him anytime soon.

Czerkawski provides a bit of help for the Leafs on the wing but at the same time he's one of the most inconsistent players I've ever seen and also one of the worst defensive forwards in the NHL. There's a reason why it took so long for him to sign somewhere.
You can't judge players based solely on numbers. Ponikarovasky is the kind of player whose impact doesn't show up in the numbers. He simply make his team better.

25 goals in a season in the old NHL is inconsistent? I think you're letting your Ottawa Senators fan-itis blind your judgment.


Word is that Mike Keane has been invited to camp! That is tremendous news if you ask me. This guy is a proven winner and if you ask me he was the true reason the Avs won their first cup! Ferguson does it again!
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy
You can't judge players based solely on numbers. Ponikarovasky is the kind of player whose impact doesn't show up in the numbers. He simply make his team better.

25 goals in a season in the old NHL is inconsistent? I think you're letting your Ottawa Senators fan-itis blind your judgment.

Word is that Mike Keane has been invited to camp! That is tremendous news if you ask me. This guy is a proven winner and if you ask me he was the true reason the Avs won their first cup! Ferguson does it again!
You talk as if Ponikarovsky is an agitator, enforcer, or defensive specialist. He's neither of those. Therefore, numbers are the best way to judge the impact of his play.

As for the 25 Czerkawski goals, look at his game log and see how condensed those goals are. He's as inconsistent as they come. He shows flashes of brilliance every year but always goes into huge slumps.

Czerkawski's scoring by month:

October: 8 goals
November: 3 goals
December: 2 goals
January: 2 goals
February: 8 goals
March: 0 goals
April: 2 goals

Only played at a high level for two months, the rest he didn't really show up for. The year before, he scored a whopping 5 goals in 43 games. Don't expect a 40 goal season from a guy who's extremely inconsistent and on the downside of his career. Expect him to give up more goals than he scores with his horrendous defense.

And Ottawa isn't my team, Colorado is.

Mike Keane was the true reason we won the cup in 96? He had 3 goals and 2 assists in the whole playoffs. Nevermind Sakic's 34 points, Kamensky's 22 points, Forsberg's 21 points, Ozolinsh's 19 points, Deadmarsh's 17 points, Ricci's 17 points, and Patrick Roy's dominance.

Have you ever watched hockey before?

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Old 09-10-2005, 12:05 PM
Ok on Cherkawski's signing I like it even for the amount we are paying him only 500k. If he scores 20 or 25 it's a good signing althought for some reason he always played well with the Islanders and his goal totals were different when he was with Montreal and Boston.

If Keane earns a spot so be it but I think I'd rather give that spot to either Stajan or Steen who looks like he could be on the team this year and could be a good player.

I think depending on where they put Ponikorovsky I think he could get 15 goals this year I think that's realistic. He had 9 in his last NHL season.

Of course the crackdown on obstruction for me remains wait and see I guarantee by January we will back to 5 penalties a game with teams like New Jersey and Minnesota playing trap death hockey.
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by leafboy


Word is that Mike Keane has been invited to camp! That is tremendous news if you ask me. This guy is a proven winner and if you ask me he was the true reason the Avs won their first cup! Ferguson does it again!
What? I think you need to cool down on the Maple Leaf Kool-Aid.
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  #5555  
Old 09-10-2005, 12:33 PM
i'll take Czerkawski for 500k over Mogilny for 4 million a year

ANY DAY OF THE WEEK

GO LEAFS GO TRAINING CAMP STARTS MONDAY
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  #5556  
Old 09-10-2005, 03:56 PM
Could it be? Someone else...following the Avs?

(heart swells)

So me and chiefxcel will officially start the Colorado Avalanche/Ottawa Senators appreciation club. I call President.


leafboy, even if Mike Keane was the "true reason" the Avs won the cup in 96, I'll remind you that that was 10 years ago. And Keane was old THEN.

Jason Krog got invited to Avs camp! LaCroix does it again! Who needs Forsberg when you've got Jason Krog?

I can understand getting excited about Czerkawski, though. He's got soft hands and he's a fast skater, for 500K it's a deal. But like chiefxcel said, don't expect any defense or consistency.
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by horrorfreak13
Ok on Cherkawski's signing I like it even for the amount we are paying him only 500k. If he scores 20 or 25 it's a good signing althought for some reason he always played well with the Islanders and his goal totals were different when he was with Montreal and Boston.

If Keane earns a spot so be it but I think I'd rather give that spot to either Stajan or Steen who looks like he could be on the team this year and could be a good player.

I think depending on where they put Ponikorovsky I think he could get 15 goals this year I think that's realistic. He had 9 in his last NHL season.

Of course the crackdown on obstruction for me remains wait and see I guarantee by January we will back to 5 penalties a game with teams like New Jersey and Minnesota playing trap death hockey.

Are you sure it was $500,000? I thought the terms were undisclosed.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by outsyder
Are you sure it was $500,000? I thought the terms were undisclosed.
Yep it's not huge money the Leafs only have 1 million left in cap room and they invited Steve Thomas and Bryan Marchment to training camp but I don't expect any of them to make the team.

And the Leafs never extended an invitation to Mike Keane.

BTW NHL 2006 kicks ass
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  #5559  
Old 09-12-2005, 04:11 PM
Peter Bondra headed to Atlanta, and Michael Ryder has signed a one year deal with Montreal. Ryder was ridiculous last year and they would have been wise to lock him up long-term. Bondra can still play and he'll fit well in Atlanta, but if Kovalchuk decides to go over to Russia, Atlanta's screwed. If Kovalchuk stays, I think they'll make the playoffs this year.

Also Mark Messier has announced his retirement today. Congrats to Mark for having an amazing career and being one of the nicest guys to play the game.

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Old 09-13-2005, 02:31 AM
Iya Kovachuk of the Thrasers isn't happy with Atlanta's offers and the word is that he could become a Leaf. You're probably saying to yourself that the Leafs don't have the cap room. Word is that JFJ would sign him to a 1 year deal for small money and then next year when we have more cap room he'll give him what he deserves. This would be another winning move by Ferguson (as if our team wasn't good enough already!) and I hope he pulls it off.

In other news the Leafs have invited former Leaf Steve Thomas to camp! Brilliant move. Another great player with extensive playoff experience.

I have a good feeling about this year.
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