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Old 03-04-2005, 01:40 PM
The Jacket

The Jacket
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A man gets put into a mental ward after he apparently shoots an officer of the law, a moment in time he simply does not remember. While in the loony-bin, he is pumped full of drugs and inserted into a hole in the wall for hours on end by a wacky doctor who believes that he is coaxing the patient back into sanity.








I will be seeing this over the weekend and its getting decent reviews. I have also been hearing there is a tit shot of kara knightly, cant wait!!!!
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Actually the reviews I've been reading are extremely mixed. 50% of critics seem to like and 50% don't.

Nevertheless, I still want to see this. It looks like a cool, trippy thriller.
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:57 PM
SPOILERS!!!!

I didn't expect a masterpiece (based on the tepid response it received at Sundance this year), but I was hoping for a decent, somewhat twisted and disturbing little mind fuck. Unfortunately, that's not what I got. The Jacket is a nothing but a pale imitation of vastly superior movies. It starts out OK, quickly becomes boring and is ultimately hokey and ridiculous. A disappointment, even with modest expectations. The list of what I liked is much shorter, so I'll start with that. I liked the music, the always welcome presence of the great Daniel Craig, and finally, Keira Knightly's breasts, even though you can see the them for all of two seconds. I guess it was shot fairly well, too. Other than that, it is a rehash of movies like Jacob's Ladder and 12 Monkeys, with very, very few ideas of its own. I was somewhat intrigued at the start, but my interest dissolved quickly. As other reviews have mentioned, Knightly changes her mind about Brody far too quickly. In about one scene actually. One second, she thinks he's insane, the next, she's his girlfriend and ally. A bit of a stretch, to say the least. I also was not impressed with her performance. You could tell she was struggling with her American accent and it's distracting. I didn't buy her in this particular role either. Thankfully, she is easy on the eyes. The contrivances and plot holes really start to present themselves in the last 45 minutes or so. Apparently it is really easy to get out of mental hospitals, and just as easy to get in and snoop around. I didn't care for how sappy it got either. Way more sentimental than I expected, and it was unwelcome. Just seemed like it belonged in a different movie. I didn't find it confusing at all. I'm not saying I'm super smart. Rather, I think it's a reflection of the movie. It isn't as complex as it believes it is, nor nearly as clever. It's pretty damn easy to follow. All in all, nothing special at all. Too similar to other, better movies, and not nearly as fucked up as it should have been.

4/10 (I didn't hate it, despite my rating, but I just don't think it deserves any more than that.)
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:16 PM
One thing I forgot to mention. I guess the director went on a tirade at a junket, bashing Hollywood and Million Dollar Baby and Clint Eastwood, among other movies and people (including people he's worked with and considers friends). Fucking classless idiot. Has he seen his own movie? It's not good. Neither is the directing. Make a good movie or shut the fuck up.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by MadsenOMC
One thing I forgot to mention. I guess the director went on a tirade at a junket, bashing Hollywood and Million Dollar Baby and Clint Eastwood, among other movies and people (including people he's worked with and considers friends). Fucking classless idiot. Has he seen his own movie? It's not good. Neither is the directing. Make a good movie or shut the fuck up.
Really? What an asshole. Deserves a sound thrashing.

Any links to what he said?
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:57 PM
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Really? What an asshole. Deserves a sound thrashing.

Any links to what he said?
Yeah, this guy is a fucking dick, read this link...

FilmForce Interview
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by FunkyMonkCP
Yeah, this guy is a fucking dick, read this link...

FilmForce Interview
What a jackass, total fuckin' jackass. Play Misty For Me does rule, but still tell the guy to shut the fuck up. I have a feeling this is his last time in hollywood.
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Old 03-05-2005, 08:34 AM
Review: The Jacket

http://www.browntownjohnny.com/index.php





Oh No! Not a prequel to "The Tuxedo"..........just kidding. I liked the trailer for "The Jacket", in 1991 a Gulf War vet is put in a psych-ward with a looney doctor performing crazy experiments on him.... inhumane torture. Adrien Brody (Academy Award Winner) is Jack Starks, a Vermont man and gulf war vet who is accused of a murder of a state trooper (he didn't do it). He is put in the state facility for the criminally insane. Dr. Becker (Kris Kristofferson is pretty good here) has a radical treatment where he puts the straight-jacket on Jack in a morgue drawer and pumps him with psycho-inducing drugs for hours on end. Jack has visions of the future, meeting a young waitress (Keira Knightley is miscast but very pretty) and finding out the mystery of time travel.



Where have I seen this before...... oh yes.....Terry Gilliam's "12 Monkeys". There is a little bit of "Donnie Darko" and "The Sixth Sense" in it to grab the cult audience. Director John Maybury's "The Jacket" is a pretty good flick because the story is interesting and the actors are superb. Brody is a perfect choice for the lead and some fine support from Daniel Craig (Road to Perdition) as fellow inmate Mackenzie ( a great Brit actor doing an intense performance). The problem with the movie is the script, a few stumbles in logic as a fellow doctor (Jennifer Jason Leigh) in the ward can do nothing to stop the torture. Otherwise it was a good 2 hrs of movie time, so wait for the rental and decide if it is good. Watch for former kid actor from "One Day at a Time", Mackenzie Phillips as a 'Nurse' with a mean temper, and Brad Renfro as a killer. "12 Monkeys" was far better on the head-trip scale.
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:01 AM
SPOILERS!!!!

Actually, The Jacket rips off Jacob's Ladder more than any other movie. War veteran, behavior modification drugs, difficulty deciphering what's fantasy and what's reality. I watched Jacob's Ladder again two weeks ago. It's infinitely superior to this. 1,000 times better.
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by FunkyMonkCP
Yeah, this guy is a fucking dick, read this link...

FilmForce Interview
After reading that, I hope The Jacket fails miserably just to spite him.
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:23 PM
This guy sounds like another Tony Kaye (the director of AMERICAN HISTORY X, who made a public stink that star Edward Norton took over his picture and re-edited it). What a pompous ass. That won't make him any friends in Hollywood.
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:05 PM
You want a great Keira Knightley tit shot...?

Check "THE HOLE", she's 16 in it. Whew!

Anyway, yeah I shall be checking this out even though I hate Adrien Brody.
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:50 PM
Theres a tit shot?
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:39 PM
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Theres a tit shot?
Two very, very brief ones. Blink and you miss. Not that I'm complaining.
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:05 PM
I actually really liked this movie. Im going ot go ahead and give it a 9/10. Though if you factor in Keira's hotness factor that comes to 97/10, but thats not really fair to the other films. Seriously, Im not one to base a movies quality on a chick, but the only man I would ever call lucky is the man that gets to be with her.

My rating might drop a point after Keiras face burns out from behind my eyes but I still thought it was a pretty damn good, trippy film.

God I need a girlfriend.
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Old 03-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Just got back from this movie, and it was fucking AWESOME! Brilliantly done, and acted by both Adrian Brody and Keira Knightley.... Kris Kristofferson and Jennifer Jason Leigh also play really good bit roles as well

It's basically about a Gulf War veteran Jack (Brody) who gets shot in the head, and suffers from some "Gulf War Syndrome" thus being proclaimed crazy after he is found guilty of killing a cop... They throw him into an insane asylum, where the head doctor (Kristofferson) conducts experimental treatmant, shooting Jack full of drugs and then throwing him into a hold in the wall while being strapped into a full-body strait jacket ala a morgue, where Jack is able to see many years into the future.... There he meets his love interest Jackie (Knightley) who he ran into on the side of the road, back in his present time of 1992, before being committed to the asylum....

This movie is very similar to movies like 12 Monkeys, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and The Buttefly Effect, in that it's a brilliantly done time-travel type thriller that'll keep you interested throughout.... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, see this as soon as you can!
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Trail_Blazer
This movie is very similar to movies like 12 Monkeys, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and The Buttefly Effect, in that it's a brilliantly done time-travel type thriller that'll keep you interested throughout.... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, see this as soon as you can!
It would be far more accurate to state that this movie is a cheap rip-off of Jacob's Ladder. And it isn't half as good as 12 Monkeys or Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It is, however, nearly as bad as the laughably stupid Butterfly Effect.
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:42 PM
I really enjoyed it. It might help that I thin Keira Knightley is the hottest women on the face of the planet and basically like everything I've seen that she's in. But I thought the scenes in the morgue cabinet were effective and I thought the perfomances were good enough.

7.5/10
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:49 AM
That guy is commiting career suiced with that rant , but i like what he said about Million Dollar , he def has some balls pointing out the mperor with no clothes , especially since he's in the film biz ( not much longer ) , Eastwood and Swank are like sacred cows , noone is allowed to bad mouth anything they do , so this guy gets some major points for tearing into the Five dollar Infant .

Don't agree with him about Aviator and Phantom though , i really liked those .

Here's one for the compsiracy theorists , after reading that little tirade , i wonder if the weekend numbers may have been manipulated a bit , i still don't see Jacket making so little money , and some shmoes seem to have actually liked it , but i haven't seen it , so i really can't say , it jus doesn't seem right , Brody is popular and Knightley also , one mil opening day ( Million Dollar Baby , coincidence ? ) , something is wrong here . Ah , i'm jus bored , but something is up .
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:39 AM
Sorry Madsen OMC got to disagree

wow where did the MDB rant come from.

iI was expecting to hate this but I didnt heres my review.





Take The Trip In “Jacket” By Blake Hinton

February is usually considered a movie dumping ground and this February was no different. There was nothing really memorable that came out and tons of mediocre to poor films. Therefore, as March begins it is always nice to see a film that tries to be different, ambitious, and daring. The Jacket is this film. While it is not a perfect film at all it is a really fascinating movie.
The plot is a mind-bender seemingly straight out of Donnie Darko. The story follows traumatized Gulf War Vet Jack Starks(Adrian Brody). From the beginning of the film we learn that Jack almost died once from a shot to the head. Thankfully, he survived but now seems to be suffering post-traumatic stress disorder.
The film then follows him to the side of the road where he is trying to pick up a ride. First, he meets a car stuck on the side of the road. The mother is wasted, but the daughter Jackie Pride(Kiera Knightley ) convinces Jack to start the car.
Next, he hitches a ride with a strange man and things only gets weirder when a cop pulls them over. Suddenly, the movie automatically switches to a courtroom where Jack is being charged with the murder of the cop. The only problem is he has no memory of what happened and the other guy seems to have disappeared. Jack is sentenced to an institution for the criminally insane.
It is there where things really start getting screwed up. The person who runs the institution is Dr. Becker (Kris Kristofferson). Becker uses Jack as guinea pig to test his new treatment by injecting him full of lots of banned drugs, wrapping him up in a body straight jacket, and then stuffing him a morgue drawer. According to Dr. Becker this is supposed to free his mind. Yet, the only thing it allows him to do is time travel where he learns from the grown up Jackie that he will die in four days in front of the institution. The race is on to find out how he is going to die.
While this movie certainly has flaws it’s basic premise makes for a fascinating head trip. One may ask though how exactly Jack can travel through time by simply being stuffed in a drawer. Well, if enjoyment of the film is simply going to be derived from whether the audience finds out or not then one should stay far away from this movie. They never explain it, but once one accepts that he can time travel and that’s that it actually becomes easier to take. If one wants to talk plot holes then look the amazing lack of security at the hospital or why would Kiera Knightley believe Jack’s time traveling stories in such an amazingly short amount of time. This movie has holes, but the science fiction elements, despite never being remotely explained actually works best in the film.
One should also note the ending and the last 20 minutes which really ties the film together. It’s hard to do weird time travel films as they always have a quality of tripping over themselves. The nice thing about this film is that while the ending is a tad ambiguous everything is connected quite nicely leading up to an a sad but emotionally satisfying ending. In other words, think the brilliant culmination in Donnie Darko. Some critics have called the ending anti-climatic, but they are simply missing the really fascinating questions that the ending and the time travel elements bring up.
Yet, the biggest contribution to the film was the trippy directing. One thing that one can’t deny about this film is that it certainly puts you in the head of the main character. That’s why it may be hard to get into at first. This POV is from a disturbed man, therefore, the audience gets trippy editing and wild shots. Yet, in the end it all works.
If there’s only one problem it is the acting. Adrian Brody is quite good as usual. Also, Kristofferson makes for a really creepy bad guy. Finally, Jennifer Jason Leigh pops up in a supporting role as a fellow doctor. One can always count on her. The only problem is the acting of Keira Knightley. She is usually quite good, but here he seems strangely miscast never getting a great hold on the character. A big part of the film is romance between Jack and Jackie and while it is not terrible this suffers because of Knightley.
Still, in the end, this remains a fascinating film that asks a lot of great questions by using the time travel gimmick. Admittedly, it could have been smoothed out more and replaced at least one actor, but this is a surprisingly good film. Give it a try and see a film that’s different.

7.5/10
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Old 03-06-2005, 03:18 PM
But it's not different. Everything about it is borrowed from other movies. It may be a lot of things, but original is definitely not one of them. dd, there is no conspiracy here. I saw it in an empty theater on Friday night. Brody and Knightly are not box office draws and it's not an easy movie to market. Who's the audience? Plus, it went up against two movies that opened very well. I am not surprised at all by its lackluster box office. And regarding the director, don't forget that there is a huge difference between having balls and being a fucking moron. I would say this guy is the latter.
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:51 PM
Yes it is different in how these familiar elements are presented. Im sorry but a lot of movies have elements that have borrorwed from other movies. Sorry but its true. What Im interested in is how the movie presents them. The movie presented them in a different or interesting way so I liked it.
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:12 PM
Oh sure almost all movies have elements that have been borrowed from previous movies. True originality is a very rare thing these days. We agree on that. But we disagree on the way these borrowed elements are presented in The Jacket. For me, it was far too similar to Jacob's Ladder, and nowhere near as good. Borrowing is one thing, but shamelessly ripping something off is another matter altogether.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:05 PM
I thought it was okay, too much of a retread of 12 Monkeys and The Butterfly Effect. It felt rather incomplete, it seemed like they were hinting at connecting different elements but the threads never seemed to tie either because of deleted scenes or the intent to leave it open-ended. However, I don't feel like repeat viewings would produce any new sort of understanding to make the extra effort worth it.

My real question was if anyone knew who did the cover of the Louis Armstrong song, We've Got All the Time in the World from the James Bond movie, On Her Majesty's Secret Service? Excellent song and great usage over the end credits.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:08 PM
I can see the Jacobs Ladder connection and while I find that film better I didnt anything so deliberate to call it a rip off
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:15 PM
I liked it, too (and if that means that you're going to interrogate me too, Madsen, go ahead ). This is another mindfuck movie, the next in a long string of them to hit us in the last few years. Admittedly, it's not the most original mindfuck movie, but what makes it special is that it treats the similiar ideas from other mindfuck movies (along with some new ideas of its own) in a fresh light. That's what makes this a good movie.

In fact, that's what basically every movie of every genre does. Most movies out there from the last few decades ago recycles ideas from older movies. What makes them good or bad is whether the new films treat them in a fresh light. And in the case of "The Jacket," I was mostly surprised (Yes I was, Madson, so sue me ).

Actually, what I liked about this movie was that not so much that there was huge twist at the end that explained everything, I didn't really find it as mysterious as I thought. In fact, there really isn't a huge twist at the end.

The way I saw it, it's halfway through the movie when you figure it out where its going (Adrian Brody is confused, is locked up in hole in the wall, goes back through time where where he gradually learns clues to the present, wakes up back in present and is less confused, and let's back in the hole in the wall to learn more...). This is not a bad thing, what it represented was a unique time travel device that I appreciated and dug. You don't see this device in a lot of movies today and it was used IMO in a very original way (I'm already prepared with a lawyer, Madsen, so don't bother ).

So basically liked this movie. It was a nice suspense/twist movie. My rating: *** out of 4.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:26 PM
Regardless of everythnig, Keira's hotness factor makes it worthwhile.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:33 PM
You can expect my lawsuit shortly. My lawyers are preparing the paperwork as we speak. I'm going after everyone on the board who liked this movie. Thank you and good day.

I hope no one feels like they are being interrogated, though. I just enjoy a good debate. And speaking of debate, what fresh ideas did anyone find in The Jacket?
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:21 PM
putting him ina jacket and stuffing him a morgue drawer is a fresh idea.


Dukem Nukem


I also find it interesting that I ekpt hearing that there was a big twist at the end but I dont see what the big twost is. I thought it was great ending but explained perfectly well. This si what I thought


Spoilers!!!




To me the ending is both tragic and happy. Happy in the sense that he changes Kiera's life for the better. Sad in the sense that when we get the bright light at the end that means he died on t he morgue drawer. I thought it was sweet he wanted to go in for the last time to see if Jackie was al right.

A lot of people keep saying that he actually stays in the future to live with Jackie, but it seems to me how can he do that when his body is tied to the present
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:28 PM
SPOILERS!!


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A lot of people keep saying that he actually stays in the future to live with Jackie, but it seems to me how can he do that when his body is tied to the present [/B]

But his body died....

Again I say, if I got to go to THAT (Keira) I'd defy space and time too!
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:32 PM
Oh, I appreciated the ending too, Chinton. But, I think you misunderstood my statement about the twist ending (or maybe I didn't phrase it well). What I meant was that I was actually glad that the movie didn't feature a twist ending at the end and that the movie played out the time-travel plot more straight-forwardly. Watching the previews, the movie looked like the type of trippy movie to feature a twist at the end out of nowhere to "surprise" us and explain everything, something we've seen too often in movies lately. So, I was glad that the movie didn't go that route.
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:33 PM
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putting him ina jacket and stuffing him a morgue drawer is a fresh idea.
I suppose it gets the job done, but it certainly isn't anything mind-blowing. I don't think I'd go so far as to call it fresh. If that's all it's got, that sure ain't much.
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Old 03-07-2005, 09:28 AM
why does it have to be mindblowing. Interesting is enough for me. notice I only gave this a 7.5/10


I see what your saying Dukem Nukem.


Spoilers!!!!!



Exactly he died so wouldt the moment that he died he would be pulled from the future. I always assumed that he could only be there if his living body was ying him to the present.
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Old 03-07-2005, 09:33 AM
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[B


Spoilers!!!!!



Exactly he died so wouldt the moment that he died he would be pulled from the future. I always assumed that he could only be there if his living body was ying him to the present. [/B]
It doesnt really make a lot of sense.

But I figure that he always returns to his body in the past because his body is actually there. If his body dies tehres no place for his mind to return to. Like a closed door.
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Old 03-07-2005, 04:39 PM
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why does it have to be mindblowing. Interesting is enough for me. notice I only gave this a 7.5/10
I guess it's just a matter of semantics. You found the idea to be interesting and I found it too similar to other movies and nothing special. Also, I know the director is irate over the way it was marketed (among other things), but I don't see how it could have made more money with different marketing. Maybe a different weekend would have helped. And you did not make a "pretentious European drama." Seriously. Get over yourself man.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:13 AM
Sorry to hammer home this point but I find the ending itneresting but I also find it not to be that confusing. Look at it like this.


Spoilers!!!!




Whats different about this film unlike any other time travel film is that the main character effectively exists in two time periods at the same time. He is both in the drawer and in the furture. his body acts as an anchor in the past. Thats why he always goes back to the past.

So as far as the ending goes there are two different equally logical ways you can interpret this:


1. Brody is trapped in the "good" future to restart his relationship with Kiera. Since his present dies in t he morgue that is a closed drawer.

or

2. Or Brody must have a living body in t he present asn an anchor. Once that body does Brody does in both time periods.
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Old 03-08-2005, 05:22 PM
But the REAL reason to go see this movie is:

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Old 03-08-2005, 05:27 PM
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But the REAL reason to go see this movie is:

Unfortunately, despite how hot she is, her performance blows ass. I was distracted by her failed attempt at an American accent. You can tell how hard she is trying, which is a bad thing. It just doesn't sound right. The weak writing certainly doesn't do her any favors, but it's not a good performance.
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Old 03-08-2005, 05:32 PM
I thought she did alright as a character, or as best as she could with what she had to work with... The writing from her basically thinking he's an insane psychopath, to being his friend and lover over-nite was a bit extreme.... I also thought she struggled a bit with ther attempt at the american accent... She REALLY needs to stay with her British one, cuz she sounded pretty bad in this... I hate when actors try to talk with accents that aren't their own, I can almost ALWAYS tell right off hand.... It's distracting to the movie at times, so I wasn't really listening to WHAT she was saying it, I was actually trying to hear HOW she said what she was saying...
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Old 03-08-2005, 07:20 PM
ya she was poor and thats from a guy unlike Madsen who liked the film
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