Box Office numbers

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
Click is doing fine.

And? Who said it wasn't doing fine? I certainly didn't. You act like I called it a bomb. I merely stated that its opening is a disappointment, which I believe it is, and that it can't be considered successful at this point because it's probably going to drop fast and hard, and it was fairly expensive to produce. OK?

[MisterChristian]

Channel surfers tuned into Sony's "Click" this weekend in large numbers as the Adam Sandler starrer from Revolution Studios posted a boxoffice rating and share worth an estimated $40 million on its debut in 3,749 theaters and captured the top spot.

The PG-13 comedy, helmed by Frank Coraci, brought in the eighth No. 1 opening for Sandler and the seventh No. 1 opening for Sony in the year-to-date. The tally for "Click" was the fourth-highest among Sandler's previous debuts, and it was his fifth film to open to $40 million or more. His most recent release was Paramount's "The Longest Yard," which opened during the four-day Memorial Day holiday in 2005, tackling $47.6 million in the first three days and $58.6 million for the four days.

I'd say Click opened fine, but every film this week will feel the effect of Superman, as it rules the box office.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
And? Who said it wasn't doing fine? I certainly didn't. You act like I called it a bomb. I merely stated that its opening is a disappointment, which I believe it is, and that it can't be considered successful at this point because it's probably going to drop fast and hard, and it was fairly expensive to produce. OK?

How can you consider it a disappointment when it

A) opened as well as Sandler's other films
B) had the normal production budget for Sandler's films (at least since The Waterboy)
C) Sandler's fanbase will go see it again, and guys like me who didn't get a chance to see the movie will still go see it.

Yes, Superman will rule the box office, no doubt. But Sandler has held up well against competition in the past, and I have no doubt this film will hold up well.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
How can you consider it a disappointment when it

A) opened as well as Sandler's other films
B) had the normal production budget for Sandler's films (at least since The Waterboy)
C) Sandler's fanbase will go see it again, and guys like me who didn't get a chance to see the movie will still go see it.

Yes, Superman will rule the box office, no doubt. But Sandler has held up well against competition in the past, and I have no doubt this film will hold up well.

I have clearly explained why I believe it is a disappointment. It opened below The Longest Yard and Anger Management, despite a prime summer release date with no new wide releases to compete against. It cost $82.5 million to make. That may make it his most expensive movie yet. That is pretty expensive for a Sandler movie and doesn't include the very expensive P&A costs. Don't expect it to hold very well. Like I said, it actually dropped from Friday to Saturday and we all know what the competition is this weekend. Again, I'm not saying it bombed. I am saying that its opening is disappointing. AM was released in April, and still Click fell more than $2 million below that movie's opening. I think that's disappointing. But clearly Sandler still has a significant fan base, though over 50% of the audience was female over the weekend, so it's changing.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I have clearly explained why I believe it is a disappointment. It opened below The Longest Yard and Anger Management, despite a prime summer release date with no new wide releases to compete against. It cost $82.5 million to make. That may make it his most expensive movie yet.

Incorrect. That is actually about as much as the Waterboy cost to make, and it had a smaller opening (by a million dollars) and went on to make over $160 million. Click only made about $2 million less than Anger Management and made more than 50 First Dates. Everyone else recognizes that a $40 million opening is about the average for Sandler's films, and they tend to hold well. It'll at least be the number two grossing movie this weekend. I mean, yeesh.

$40 million--half the production budget--is nothing to sneeze at. Far from a disappointment.

And I know you're not saying it's a bomb, but I still don't get how this is a disappointment. Look at a chart of Sandler's openings. They tend to be in the high 30-mid 40 million dollar range.

Edit: I was incorrect on the Waterboy's budget, so forgive me. However, an $80 million budget isn't that much of an increase compared to Sandler's recent $75 million budgeted flicks.

[MadsenOMC]

I was going to say, The Waterboy cost $23 million, so $82.5 million is just a tad bit more than that.

I realize that Click didn't cost much more to make than Anger Management, 50 First Dates or The Longest Yard. I also realize that $40 million is about average for Sandler and that an opening of half the production budget isn't bad.

I still say that it is a disappointment, especially after it sinks like a rock and only makes three times its opening weekend. With such a prime release date, I think it could have and should have done better for reasons I have already explained.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I was going to say, The Waterboy cost $23 million, so $82.5 million is just a tad bit more than that.

I realize that Click didn't cost much more to make than Anger Management, 50 First Dates or The Longest Yard. I also realize that $40 million is about average for Sandler and that an opening of half the production budget isn't bad.

I still say that it is a disappointment, especially after it sinks like a rock and only makes three times its opening weekend. With such a prime release date, I think it could have and should have done better for reasons I have already explained.

I wouldn't call it a prime release date at all. Mere days before the biggest movie of the summer? And after this weekend we'll have Pirates of the Carribean.

And saying that it will sink like a rock, I can't agree. Now, like I've said, Superman will rule the box office. But Sandler's comedies have had a way of holding up (aside from Little Nicky, which sucked). Look at 50 First Dates. Number one for two weeks, but then it had Passion of the Christ to deal with. It still ended up making another $40 million before it left theaters.

Don't count Click out yet.

[MadsenOMC]

Prime release date in that it had no real competition. The only other new release was only semi-wide and it went for a completely different audience.

As far as its holding power, I wouldn't bet on it being good. Look at Sandler's most recent traditional movies: Longest Yard, 50 First Dates and Anger Management. Longest Yard and Anger Management made slightly more than three times their opening weekend, while 50 First Dates held up the worst of all three, almost exactly three times its opening weekend. With Superman Returns right around the corner and POTC2 soon after that, I can't imagine Click holding better than those three.

[cletus66]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC

As far as its holding power, I wouldn't bet on it being good. Look at Sandler's most recent traditional movies: Longest Yard, 50 First Dates and Anger Management. Longest Yard and Anger Management made slightly more than three times their opening weekend, while 50 First Dates held up the worst of all three, almost exactly three times its opening weekend. With Superman Returns right around the corner and POTC2 soon after that, I can't imagine Click holding better than those three.

I agree 100%. With the insane level of competition Click will be facing over the next two weeks a huge drop is a certainty. A 50-60% drop is a lock and I think Click will struggle to break the 100 million dollar mark.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by cletus66
I agree 100%. With the insane level of competition Click will be facing over the next two weeks a huge drop is a certainty. A 50-60% drop is a lock and I think Click will struggle to break the 100 million dollar mark.

It just made 5.7 mil today by thursday it will be at 58-60 followed by a week of 17-20 mil it should be at pretty much 75-80 mil theres no way this movie isnt hitting 100 mil.

[francis stripes]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
It just made 5.7 mil today by thursday it will be at 58-60 followed by a week of 17-20 mil it should be at pretty much 75-80 mil theres no way this movie isnt hitting 100 mil.

lol

you people haven't a clue as to CLICK's box-office potential. word of mouth is off the charts with this one. people having cried one after the other after the other. anyway, it made the $5.7 today and WILL BE at $60 after Thurday closes. so, add in FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY (JULY 4th falls on a Tuesday this year, first time since 2000, this is key), toss in WEDNESDAY for good measure, and you'll find an additional $35 million to add to the booty.

$60 million

+

$35 million

=

$95 million by JULY 6th

imo

personally, I think this will become his biggest hit to date

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by francis stripes
lol

you people haven't a clue as to CLICK's box-office potential. word of mouth is off the charts with this one. people having cried one after the other after the other. anyway, it made the $5.7 today and WILL BE at $60 after Thurday closes. so, add in FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY (JULY 4th falls on a Tuesday this year, first time since 2000, this is key), toss in WEDNESDAY for good measure, and you'll find an additional $35 million to add to the booty.

$60 million

+

$35 million

=

$95 million by JULY 6th

imo

personally, I think this will become his biggest hit to date

I understand that you are a fan of the movie, and that is fine, but you have to be objective about its box office potential. I would be careful about calling other people clueless. You just might end up looking foolish. OK, let's begin.

1) It dropped from Friday to Saturday. A small decline, but a decline all the same and never a good sign.

2) It is competing against Superman Returns, which teenage boys are going to flock to see and which also has a heavy dose of romance for female audiences. This will likely significantly hurt Click's holding power.

3) A drop of 50% or more is standard now. Rarely does a movie display strong staying power outside of animated movies and movies aimed at older viewers.

4) Finally, Sandler's biggest hit (according to boxofficemojo) is Big Daddy, at $163 million. Click would have to make over four times its opening weekend to surpass that number. It is not going to happen.

This has nothing to do with the movie's quality. It is simply box office reality. Please, try to ignore your strong feelings about the movie and objectively analyze its box office potential.

[francis stripes]

3) A drop of 50% or more is standard now. Rarely does a movie display strong staying power outside of animated movies and movies aimed at older viewers.

lol

50% is standard, so the f' what? this isn't your typical film. there has yet to be a film this summer that truly connects w/ America. this has and they will show up in droves and droves for weeks and weeks. CLICK = $175 million.

4) Finally, Sandler's biggest hit (according to boxofficemojo) is Big Daddy, at $163 million. Click would have to make over four times its opening weekend to surpass that number. It is not going to happen.

oooooooooookay

[Lazy Boy]

How has Click connected with America? Have there been commercials interviewing people in the imaginary lines that are going around the corner of the theater, extolling its virtues?

I don't think it will reach 175...

[MadsenOMC]

I can see that debating with you is pointless as you can't objectively look at Click's box office. This truly connects with America? What does that even mean, and how do you even know? Did you poll every single person who saw the movie? Even if most people who see it like it, that does not mean that it will hold well. Your remarks lead me to believe that you don't know much about box office trends. No offense.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy

I don't think it will reach 175...

There is not a chance in hell.

[Kevin Smith fan]

I'd be suprised if it made more than Mr.Deeds

[cletus66]

Originally posted by Kevin Smith fan
I'd be suprised if it made more than Mr.Deeds

I'll second that. It will make 100-110 MAX as for the 175 million perdiction, we will see pigs fly before that happens.

[francis stripes]

Originally posted by cletus66
I'll second that. It will make 100-110 MAX as for the 175 million perdiction, we will see pigs fly before that happens.

are you f'n retarded? you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about box-office numbers. even it CLICK drops 50% this weekend, which it won't (proven by Mondays #), it'll still be hovering at $95 million by JULY 6th. so, basically, you're saying it's only gonna make a total of $15 million dollars the REST OF IT'S ENTIRE RUN?!?!?!?!?

lol

lol

lol

YOU'RE HYSTERICAL!!!!

lol at ALL OF YOU

telling me I don't know box-office numbers

lol

SEE YA' ALL HERE ON JULY 6th!!!

lol

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by francis stripes
are you f'n retarded? you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about box-office numbers. even it CLICK drops 50% this weekend, which it won't (proven by Mondays #), it'll still be hovering at $95 million by JULY 6th. so, basically, you're saying it's only gonna make a total of $15 million dollars the REST OF IT'S ENTIRE RUN?!?!?!?!?

lol

lol

lol

YOU'RE HYSTERICAL!!!!

lol at ALL OF YOU

telling me I don't know box-office numbers

lol

SEE YA' ALL HERE ON JULY 6th!!!

lol

OK, knock off the name calling. That isn't allowed around here, in case you don't know.

And Monday's number proves nothing. I'm not sure why you believe otherwise. Again, I would be very careful about telling other people that they don't know box office.

[francis stripes]

JULY 6th, baby!

then, we'll see who knows what around here

[someguy]

Cletus may not know box office, but he sure knows grammar skills.

ho ho zinger!

[Backstabba]

I'm sure Click will drop atleast 40%
Most likely 50%
It has a chance of making 100 million
But I'm almost POSITIVE that it will not cross 120 million
Let alone 150

lol
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150 million???
lol
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YOU'RE HYSTERICAL!
lol
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[NightStalkerGtx]

Click WILL PASS 100 mil, but it WILL NOT PASS 150 mil

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
Click WILL PASS 100 mil, but it WILL NOT PASS 150 mil

Yeah, I can't believe people are debating this.

Tracking has Superman poised for a $25 million-ish opening day...

[cletus66]

Originally posted by francis stripes
are you f'n retarded? you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about box-office numbers. even it CLICK drops 50% this weekend, which it won't (proven by Mondays #), it'll still be hovering at $95 million by JULY 6th. so, basically, you're saying it's only gonna make a total of $15 million dollars the REST OF IT'S ENTIRE RUN?!?!?!?!?

lol

lol

lol

YOU'RE HYSTERICAL!!!!

lol at ALL OF YOU

telling me I don't know box-office numbers

lol

SEE YA' ALL HERE ON JULY 6th!!!

lol

Francis I'll say it one more time there is NO WAY IN HELL Click is doing 175 million. It will finish between 90-110 million and by July 6 it will not be at 95 million but more likely in the 80-83 million range.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik


Tracking has Superman poised for a $25 million-ish opening day...

Not bad. Batman Begins only had about a $15 million opening day.

[francis stripes]

Originally posted by cletus66
Francis I'll say it one more time there is NO WAY IN HELL Click is doing 175 million. It will finish between 90-110 million and by July 6 it will not be at 95 million but more likely in the 80-83 million range.

OMG!

this thread is AWESOME

and will only grow MORE awesome come JULY 6th. dude, you in particular are, like, ultra retarded...

"it will finish between 90-110 miillion"

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

make sure to check back in when you FINALLY figure out you're wrong. you know, instead of being a real puss and avoiding the thread altogether.

hey, seriously though. thanks for the laughs!

[cletus66]

Originally posted by francis stripes
OMG!

this thread is AWESOME

and will only grow MORE awesome come JULY 6th. dude, you in particular are, like, ultra retarded...

"it will finish between 90-110 miillion"

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

make sure to check back in when you FINALLY figure out your wrong. you know, instead of being a real puss and avoiding the thread altogether.

hey, seriously though. thanks for the laughs!

Dude, Do you have a financial stake in this movie or something. I have never seen anybody so strongly defend a movies box office potential. I applaud your persistence but I will be glad when July 6 rolls around and my perdiction is right on the money.

[francis stripes]

I will be glad when July 6 rolls around and my perdiction is right on the money

lol

[someguy]

I'm not going to judge on Click until this weekend's numbers are in to see how it holds. Not sure if it will hold on strong or drop like a rock.

[francis stripes]

Originally posted by someguy
I'm not going to judge on Click until this weekend's numbers are in to see how it holds. Not sure if it will hold on strong or drop like a rock.

way to put yourself on the line, bro. good stuff.

[SpikeDurden]

All of this arguing over Click's box office is ridiculous! Who cares how much movie a money makes? If you love the film, great, and if you don't, that's great too. Box office receipts have NO affect on one's feelings about a film, and therefore arguing back and forth about it makes no sense. While I will admit that it is fun to track box office receipts and make guesses about how much certain movies will make, I would never argue with some extensively if I thought they were wrong, or if they thought I was wrong. So please, guys, cut it out, and let's bring this topic back to serious discussion regarding box office.

[Judge_Smails]

Actually, MCN is putting SUPERMAN RETURNS at about $14m on Wednesday... which includes $4m from Tuesday night advance screenings.

If that is true, SUPERMAN RETURNS would be in KING KONG territory.

How many heads are gonna roll if X-MEN 3 outgrosses SUPERMAN RETURNS?

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by Judge_Smails
Actually, MCN is putting SUPERMAN RETURNS at about $14m on Wednesday... which includes $4m from Tuesday night advance screenings.

If that is true, SUPERMAN RETURNS would be in KING KONG territory.

How many heads are gonna roll if X-MEN 3 outgrosses SUPERMAN RETURNS?

Dont trust MCN

The guy on that site hates Superman Returns and he said he wants it to bomb and besides where is he getting his statistics from? Crowd reports, and yahoo reviews do no indicate anything below 20. Its tracking way ahead of Kong.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
Dont trust MCN

The guy on that site hates Superman Returns and he said he wants it to bomb and besides where is he getting his statistics from? Crowd reports, and yahoo reviews do no indicate anything below 20. Its tracking way ahead of Kong.

MCN is extremely trustworthy. First of all, David Poland doesn't hate Superman Returns, he just didn't like it. And I do not believe he said that he wants it to bomb. If you have a quote from him that proves otherwise, I'd like to see it. Finally, Poland doesn't do the box office numbers for MCN. That would be Leonard Klady.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
MCN is extremely trustworthy. First of all, David Poland doesn't hate Superman Returns, he just didn't like it. And I do not believe he said that he wants it to bomb. If you have a quote from him that proves otherwise, I'd like to see it. Finally, Poland doesn't do the box office numbers for MCN. That would be Leonard Klady.

If you can give me the link to his movie review of superman returns, im pretty sure he states it in there.

EDIT nvm, i thought he said that, the main reason you cant trust MCN is because if that was true BOM, SHOBIZ, or GURU atleast one of them would have it posted. MCN is not not a good website for BOX-OFFICE.

[NightStalkerGtx]

1. SUPERMAN RETURNS WARNER BROS. 3,915 21,015,000 5,368 n/a 21,015,000
2. CLICK PARAMOUNT 3,749 4,045,000 1,079 n/a 54,515,365
3. CARS BUENA VISTA 3,949 2,655,000 672 -35% 165,354,916
4. NACHO LIBRE PARAMOUNT 3,083 1,195,000 388 -58% 57,601,306
5. LAKE HOUSE, THE WARNER BROS. 2,645 1,145,000 433 -36% 33,264,472
6. FAST AND THE FURIOUS, THE: TOKYO DRIFT UNIVERSAL 3,030 815,000 269 -62% 46,020,240
7. GARFIELD: A TALE OF TWO KITTIES 20TH CENTURY FOX 2,981 725,000 243 -29% 18,858,000
8. BREAK-UP, THE UNIVERSAL 2,909 655,000 225 -51% 106,630,000
9. WAIST DEEP FOCUS FEATURES 1,004 515,000 513 n/a 11,374,180
10. DA VINCI CODE, THE SONY 1,911 440,000 230 -37% 207,101,802
11. X-MEN: THE LAST STAND 20TH CENTURY FOX 2,408 375,000 156 -56% 226,094,000
12. OVER THE HEDGE PARAMOUNT 2,007 330,000 164 -53% 145,959,043
13. INCONVENIENT TRUTH, AN PARAMOUNT 514 305,000 593 17% 10,523,463
14. OMEN, THE 20TH CENTURY FOX 2,107 125,000 59 -80% 52,855,000
15. DEEP SEA 3D WARNER BROS. 45 84,000 1,867 5% 12,403,000
16. WORDPLAY IFC FILMS 45 32,071 713 435% 487,139
17. LEONARD COHEN: I'M YOUR MAN LIONS GATE 1 3,445 3,445 -26% 35,755

MCN once again knows nothing about the box office. Can't say i didnt warn you guys.

[MadsenOMC]

Please provide me with evidence that MCN knows nothing about box office, other than the Wednesday gross for Superman Returns. I would like you to back up your claim with facts. Thank you. Oh, and since you are the one who claims that Poland hopes the movie fails, it is your responsibility to find his review and prove he said that. Otherwise, you're full of crap.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Please provide me with evidence that MCN knows nothing about box office, other than the Wednesday gross for Superman Returns. I would like you to back up your claim with facts. Thank you. Oh, and since you are the one who claims that Poland hopes the movie fails, it is your responsibility to find his review and prove he said that. Otherwise, you're full of crap.

Calm down there buddy, I've already said I was wrong on the post above the numbers.

As for why they arent trust worthy for numbers, because if you go there every weekend, they always under estimate or over estimate by a lot, MI3 was a prime example. I dont go to MCN so i dont know where to find all their stuff, I just read it on Worldofkj from people that post the articles on there. Seriously what word on the street led them to believe it was on its way for 14 mil? Crowd reports and Yahoo did not indicate that in any shape or form. So once again where the hell are they coming up with these numbers. MCN is not trust worthy for Box Office leave it to BOM, Showbiz, Guru, or any site that gets its numbers from the studio or at least backs up their predictions with something other then "Word on the street".

Since you think they do know something about the box office why dont you give me some proof saying they do.