#7521  
Old 02-01-2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore View Post
When he tries to do something outside of the romcom realm his films tank, maybe that's why he keeps on coming back to his forte .

I imagine there was a contingent that wanted to see this because of the recent attention Portman has been garnering but with Vegas, Valentine's Day ( an ensemble piece that featured him prominently on the poster ) and now his latest film, it's obvious he is a genuine romcom draw.

It may be hard to believe but i do think he is way more talented than the drek he chooses and that is my real problem. When he tries to expand his repertoire nobody seems to care. I thought he was highly effective in Butterfly Effect, he proved he has range but i guess he is forever going to be the romcom dude .

Next up for Kutch, New Years Eve ( a sequel to Valentine's Day i think ), a deep and probing expose about the New Year resolutions a group of uninteresting and self important professionals make . Sure it will be a hit .
He's just an unlikeable ass.

How does he keep getting work?
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  #7522  
Old 02-01-2011, 03:44 PM
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You do bring up some good points, i always wonder what the criteria for an "independent" film is.

I would think that any connection whatsoever to a studio or studio financing, even indirectly, would render it a studio film. I'm strictly referring to the pre production, production and the post production phase.

If all of those elements were independent of studio financing or assistance on any level, then i would consider that a genuine indie.

There's more elements to this but i don't want to go on a tangent in this thread, you should start another one to discuss this topic
I feel the same way. The connection to the studios has to be non-existent for it to really be independent. Otherwise, it sounds more like a clever roundabout way to be able to use the label independent, which let's face it, gives you more benefits and opportunities to get more name recognition, awards and accolades. It's a smart move, but feels dishonest to me when you put a production like Black Swan against something like Winter's Bone. The level of involvement with a studio should only be at the distribution level, after all is said and done.
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  #7523  
Old 02-01-2011, 04:03 PM

I do agree with Mono that I never in hell thought I would see Aronofsky have a film make over $100 million domestically. Good for him!
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  #7524  
Old 02-05-2011, 04:41 PM
Friday numbers

1. The Roommate - 6.3 mil
2. Sanctum - 3.5 mil
3. No Strings Attached - 2.9 mil
4. The King's Speech - 2.3 mil
5. The Rite - 1.9 mil
6. The Mechanic - 1.8 mil
7. The Green Hornet - 1.7 mil
8. True Grit - 1.4 mil
9. The Dilemma - 1.1 mil
10. Black Swan - 1 mil
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  #7525  
Old 02-05-2011, 05:11 PM
Wow, those numbers are snooze inducing. Even though next weekend is going to be filled with crappy looking films, at least the numbers will be high and will shake things up a bit.
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  #7526  
Old 02-06-2011, 12:07 PM
A very yawn worthy weekend.

Wake me up when Drive Angry arrives.
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  #7527  
Old 02-06-2011, 12:30 PM
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I feel the same way. The connection to the studios has to be non-existent for it to really be independent. Otherwise, it sounds more like a clever roundabout way to be able to use the label independent, which let's face it, gives you more benefits and opportunities to get more name recognition, awards and accolades. It's a smart move, but feels dishonest to me when you put a production like Black Swan against something like Winter's Bone. The level of involvement with a studio should only be at the distribution level, after all is said and done.

You're right, the Indie label is utilized now for marketing purposes, it still has that counterculture aura about it and can appeal to the anti hollywood contingent, the people that want to feel they are rebelling on some level by "supporting" a film that garners the title "Independent" .

I also feel that any involvement at all with a major studio aside from the distribution aspect disqualifies a film from being considered independent. I would even go so far as to say a film isn't an indie if it stars a big name and/or established actor who has starred in big studio films. That's a connection to the studio and the Afl/Cio right there.


Allright, about this weekend's take, i agree it's blah but i take great pleasure in seeing a film with James Cameron's name attached to it bomb big time. (Is Sanctum considered independent ? )

Even if Cameron onlyproduced it, tis great to see his name meant nothing or very little in this instance. After he gets done counting his millions i'm sure his ego will take a slight hit after seeing those numbers. That is if he even did see those numbers.

Stupid dummies, they should have thrown in some 7 foot tall smurfs, it may have made a difference
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  #7528  
Old 02-12-2011, 04:23 PM
1 JUSTIN BIEBER: NEVER SAY NEVER
3,105 $12,385,000
/ $3,989

2 JUST GO WITH IT
3,548 $9,700,000

-- / $2,734
$9,700,000 / 1

3 GNOMEO AND JULIET
Buena Vista

2,994 $6,100,000

-- / $2,037
$6,100,000 / 1

4 THE EAGLE
Focus Features

2,296 $2,750,000

-- / $1,198
$2,750,000 / 1

5 THE ROOMMATE
Sony / Screen Gems

2,534 $2,600,000


Sanctum dropped to number 8 after being 2. Cameron has no pull outside of Avatar.


Plus the Bieber movie being huge was expected

Sandler has another hit on his hands
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  #7529  
Old 02-12-2011, 04:38 PM
I'm surprised the bieber movie is so huge. I'm out of the loop on that kid.



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Sanctum dropped to number 8 after being 2. Cameron has no pull outside of Avatar.
That's a weird conclusion for sanctum's performance.
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  #7530  
Old 02-12-2011, 05:02 PM
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I'm surprised the bieber movie is so huge. I'm out of the loop on that kid.





That's a weird conclusion for sanctum's performance.
Dude puts his name on a movie after Avatar comes out? I wasn't expecting the movie to do all that well, but i thought it would stay around longer because his name was attached to it.
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  #7531  
Old 02-13-2011, 01:25 PM
Weekend estimates:

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1. Just Go With It $31,000,000
2. Justin Bieber: Never Say Never $30,260,000
3. Gnomeo and Juliet $25,500,000
4. The Eagle $8,589,000
5. The Roommate $8,400,000 -44.0% ($26,053,000)
6. The King's Speech $7,412,000 -3.9% ($93,857,000)
7. No Strings Attached $5,645,000 -29.5% ($59,866,000)
8. Sanctum $5,132,000 -45.7% ($17,505,000)
9. True Grit $3,770,000 -18.8% ($160,340,000)
10. The Green Hornet $3,600,000 -39.7% ($92,332,000)
Just Go With It cost $80M (!) and Justin Bieber: Never Say Never cost $13M.

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  #7532  
Old 02-13-2011, 02:53 PM
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Just Go With It cost $80M (!).
Pretty much every Adam Sandler film does. Big stars and nice settings are pretty much what make up that entire budget. It's a formula that has worked for years and Columbia has made a killing doing it.
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  #7533  
Old 02-13-2011, 07:03 PM
Oh, February... how you make me long for the glory days of quality cinema between the months of September through December...
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  #7534  
Old 02-13-2011, 07:22 PM
February still refuses to be considered a movie dump month. Wake me up when march arrives.
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  #7535  
Old 02-14-2011, 11:16 AM
You know I'm actually kind of interested in watching the Bieber flick. Yes, the concert scenes will be awful since his music is awful, but he actually has an interesting story. His rise to fame is actually kind of interesting. So I may actually end up watching it. I'll just have to go to bathroom during the concert scenes.
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  #7536  
Old 02-15-2011, 01:09 AM
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You know I'm actually kind of interested in watching the Bieber flick. Yes, the concert scenes will be awful since his music is awful, but he actually has an interesting story. His rise to fame is actually kind of interesting. So I may actually end up watching it. I'll just have to go to bathroom during the concert scenes.
The only thing interesting about Bieber's story is how the corporations took this innocent, genuinely talented young kid, stripped him of any possible way of actually showing off his musical talent by masking it with auto-tune and heavily engineered beats, and molding him into a giant multi-million-dollar franchise, nothing more than a product selling their image and their sub-division products, among them this film. It's nothing if not a really, really tragic story, which I'm sure does not come across in this film at all.
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  #7537  
Old 02-15-2011, 01:13 AM
Oh I don't know. I think it's actually really cool and interesting that he became famous through his youtube video. I'm actually looking forward to hearing about that part of his story.
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  #7538  
Old 02-15-2011, 06:35 PM
2 years ago i would agree that someone becoming famous via a video sharing website is an interesting tale but not now when every dummy with a camera is one video post away from "stardom" or infamy.

It's become quite redundant. It's no longer is an aberration or an anomaly, commonplace is the word that comes to mind.

What's so different or intriguing or even interesting about this latest sensation ?

He didn't really do anything. His mother posted some videos and people liked them. Enough people to make him and his backers millions.

The only difference between him and Hannah "incest " Montana is the family they were born into but with a bit of skill and talent and a YT account ( and 12 yo girls to watch your videos ) the playing field has been leveled.
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  #7539  
Old 02-15-2011, 06:37 PM
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Oh I don't know. I think it's actually really cool and interesting that he became famous through his youtube video. I'm actually looking forward to hearing about that part of his story.
anybody can become famous nowdays through youtube. just look at that homeless guy that got a job with the cavs.
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  #7540  
Old 02-15-2011, 08:12 PM
What's the world come to?

Oh. It is only February. C'mon March!
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  #7541  
Old 02-19-2011, 05:49 PM
Friday numbers:

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1. UNKNOWN $6,720,000
2. I AM NUMBER FOUR $6,200,000
3. JUST GO WITH IT $5,200,000
4. BIG MOMMAS: LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON $4,800,000
5. GNOMEO AND JULIET $4,304,000
6. JUSTIN BIEBER: NEVER SAY NEVER $3,802,000
7. THE KING'S SPEECH $1,500,000
8. THE ROOMMATE $1,200,000
9. THE EAGLE $1,000,000
10. NO STRINGS ATTACHED $900,000
I guess people actually went to see Martin Lawrence back on the big screen...
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  #7542  
Old 02-20-2011, 03:09 PM
thank god for Liam Neeson, Action star.
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  #7543  
Old 02-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Weekend Numbers

1. Unknown- $21.8 million
2. I Am Number Four- $19.5 million
3. Gnomeo and Juliet- $19.4 million
4. Just Go With It- $18.2 million
5. Big Mommas: Like Father, Like Son- $17 million
6. Justin Bieber: Never Say Never- $13.6 million
7. The King's Speech- $6.6 million
8. The Roommate- $4.1 million
9. The Eagle- $3.6 million
10. No Strings Attached- $3.1 million

The box-office has been incredibly dull lately. Here's hoping March shakes things up a bit.
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  #7544  
Old 02-20-2011, 04:35 PM
Unkown was pretty good and much deserving of it's number one finish, def happy it beat the very mediocre looking Number 4 at the box office! Liam neeson is just a bonafide bad ass!

as for the box office.. let us look at some march titles being released in north america:

The Adjustment Bureau
Rango
Battle: Los Angeles
The Lincoln Lawyer
Paul
Sucker Punch


I'd say March's box office will be quite huge... perhaps the biggest march in recent history (or perhaps all history)
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  #7545  
Old 02-20-2011, 07:05 PM
Its been a few months since I was at a theater, March definitely has some releases that I'm gonna check out though...
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  #7546  
Old 02-21-2011, 01:07 AM
Another box office yawn fest this weekend.

Why is a film that makes 20 million opening weekend considered a big deal, it's not. Even if Taken part 2 : Took only cost 30 mil, 20 mil is nothing to rave about.
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  #7547  
Old 02-21-2011, 12:36 PM
If my math is wrong please correct, but re: Big Momma...does that mean approx 2 million morons in North America at about $8-10 a pop actually rose up from their couches, entered a vehicle, drove to the theater, stood in a line, paid for and watched this crap?
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  #7548  
Old 02-21-2011, 01:41 PM
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as for the box office.. let us look at some march titles being released in north america:

The Adjustment Bureau
Rango
Battle: Los Angeles
The Lincoln Lawyer
Paul
Sucker Punch


I'd say March's box office will be quite huge... perhaps the biggest march in recent history (or perhaps all history)
Yeah I wouldnt doubt it. And I think Rango is gonna make a SHIT TON of money.
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  #7549  
Old 02-21-2011, 11:25 PM
Thank goodness Liam Nesson stopped blonde extra-terrestrial and Big Momma.
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  #7550  
Old 02-22-2011, 09:15 AM
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If my math is wrong please correct, but re: Big Momma...does that mean approx 2 million morons in North America at about $8-10 a pop actually rose up from their couches, entered a vehicle, drove to the theater, stood in a line, paid for and watched this crap?
I think you're wrong, i doubt there were any lines
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  #7551  
Old 02-22-2011, 09:24 AM
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Yeah I wouldnt doubt it. And I think Rango is gonna make a SHIT TON of money.
Rango looks mediocre but cgi kiddie fests normally do well and it has the Depp billing which should help. I don't see huge numbers though.

Sucker Punch will probably under perform, it appears to be another overstylized curiosity.

Paul i'm not sure about it. Looks way too weird to get the adults and maybe a bit too mature ( and creepy ?) for the kids

The AB looks like a prequel to the Bourne films.

The Lincoln movie looks like oscar bait two months late.

Battle looks good and should do over 100.

I'm neutral on these releases and i'm not seeing big numbers which means they will all be hits
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  #7552  
Old 02-26-2011, 05:13 PM
Friday numbers:

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1. HALL PASS $4,625,000
2. UNKNOWN $3,855,000
3. JUST GO WITH IT $3,250,000
4. GNOMEO AND JULIET $3,164,000
5. I AM NUMBER FOUR $3,140,000
6. JUSTIN BIEBER: NEVER SAY NEVER $2,651,000
7. BIG MOMMAS: LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON $2,000,000
8. THE KING'S SPEECH $1,900,000
9. DRIVE ANGRY $1,640,000
10. THE ROOMMATE $625,000
Drive Angry. Ouch.
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  #7553  
Old 02-26-2011, 05:19 PM
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Drive Angry. Ouch.
Big time. I hear its budget is around $50 million.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:35 PM
First Season of the Witch and now Drive Angry. Oh wait i forgot The Sorcerer's Aprentice. C'mon Nick stop acting in shitty movies! I knew Hall Pass would reach the #1 spot. The Roommate still at the top 10?
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  #7555  
Old 02-26-2011, 11:22 PM
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First Season of the Witch and now Drive Angry. Oh wait i forgot The Sorcerer's Aprentice. C'mon Nick stop acting in shitty movies! I knew Hall Pass would reach the #1 spot. The Roommate still at the top 10?
Season of the With looked pretty shitty, yeah, but Nic is becoming something of a B-movie king. He's successfully switched from an Oscar winning, A-list actor to a cult icon. The best part is all he has to do is make National Treasure 3 and right back to the A-list he goes.

His career is brilliant, hilarious, and awesome.
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  #7556  
Old 02-27-2011, 09:35 AM
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Season of the With looked pretty shitty, yeah, but Nic is becoming something of a B-movie king. He's successfully switched from an Oscar winning, A-list actor to a cult icon. The best part is all he has to do is make National Treasure 3 and right back to the A-list he goes.

His career is brilliant, hilarious, and awesome.
I agree with all these things. The man is an anomaly.

That being said, I'm still pumped to see Drive Angry.
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  #7557  
Old 02-27-2011, 02:59 PM
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Season of the With looked pretty shitty, yeah, but Nic is becoming something of a B-movie king. He's successfully switched from an Oscar winning, A-list actor to a cult icon. The best part is all he has to do is make National Treasure 3 and right back to the A-list he goes.

His career is brilliant, hilarious, and awesome.
Don't forget the Ghost Rider sequel.
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  #7558  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:19 PM
Weekend estimates:

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1. Gnomeo and Juliet $14,213,000 -25.8% ($75,147,000)
2. Hall Pass $13,420,000
3. Unknown $12,435,000 -43.1% ($42,840,000)
4. Just Go With It $11,100,000 -39.9% ($79,355,000)
5. I Am Number Four $11,036,000 -43.3% ($37,744,000)
6. Justin Bieber: Never Say Never $9,200,000 -30.9% ($62,776,000)
7. The King's Speech $7,618,000 +16.7% ($114,509,000)
8. Big Mommas: Like Father, Like Son $7,550,000 -53.7% ($28,574,000)
9. Drive Angry $5,131,000
10. The Roommate $2,050,000 -47.6% ($35,928,000)
Another snooze at the box-office this weekend. Next week should look better...

Anyone know what Gnomeo and Juliet cost to make?

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  #7559  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:40 PM
Please, Rango, destroy the box-office next weekend.
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  #7560  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing Rango!
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