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Old 06-26-2007, 01:06 PM
Double post.

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Old 06-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Cunning Visions
Agreed. Sad thing is, it's not just horror films anymore. Live Free, Die Hard is the newest example of this. I read an interview with one of the producers of the Beverly Hills Cop series, he wants to make another one...but Paramount will only do it if it's PG-13, and that's not what he wants. He (along with myself and a lot of other people) wants to see Eddie Murphy be a foul mouth, wise cracking asshole again. Oh but that might hurt the "tween" market.

Sorry, I guess this was just more of a nonsensical rant than a reply
Yeah, it's a fucking shame. Goddamn studios. Eddie is partially to blame for his PG-13 career going down the shitter, but I blame studios more, because they never let his films become R rated. I'm sure Eddie doesn't really care if he doesn't have to do PG-13, I mean, he's made R rated films before.

The producers should find another studio to hook up with to make an old fashioned, profane, irreverent, kickass, R-Rated Beverly Hills Cop.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Shockwave
ON A SIDE NOT, i STILL dont know the budget for 28 WEEKS LATER, and that pisses me off. Id like to know if it has/will earn enough for them to do another.
It's $48 million worldwide gross doesn't bode well for another one. That's barely more than the original made in the U.S. alone. That number is probably what the movie cost to make and market, and the studio has to share the profits. Sorry but I highly doubt there's going to be another one. Maybe if it's DTV.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by MadsenOMC
It's $48 million worldwide gross doesn't bode well for another one. That's barely more than the original made in the U.S. alone. That number is probably what the movie cost to make and market, and the studio has to share the profits. Sorry but I highly doubt there's going to be another one. Maybe if it's DTV.
Yeah, you are right Madsen. Although people on these boards seem to keep claiming that it is a successful movie, it really isn't. It is sitting at 28 million in US, which is not good at all and 48 million worldwide. I know for this kind of movie it seems good, but it really isn't. The budget for Days was 8 million, and Weeks is probably 3-5 times that with some mucho crazy SFX going on.

Don't get me wrong, I loved 28 Weeks Later, and would like to think it did well, but in all honesty it didn't. Not much better than Hostel: Part II, which will finish with around 20 million, or Grindhouse, which is finishing with around 25 million.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:55 PM
Thats a shame, but i guess i should be happy since i never wanted a sequel to begin with and was pretty impressed with what i got.

Id rather they just end it here before ever going to DTV. The series is better then that.

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Old 06-26-2007, 05:53 PM
They don't have the 28 weeks box office numbers for all the countries yet so i expect that number to go up , i don't know if it's because it hasn't been released everywhere or because they just haven't been reported . Then of course you have dvd sales , it's going to make money , maybe not as much as they would have hoped , but it will be profitable . When all the numbers are in , we'll get a better idea .
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:57 PM
The $48 million international total will have to go way up for this to turn a profit. If you count the production budget plus the international P&A costs, plus the fact that the studio shares the profits, this movie has lost money as of right now. I haven't seen it and have nothing against it. That's just the economic reality at this point.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:54 AM
^^It will end up making money with the dvd , not a hell of a lot of money but it will end up in the black. Just like a lot of other movies these days. Serenity was a huge dud in the theaters that has now creeped into the black and has a new special edition dvd coming out this summer. I think LFODH will do well this weekend.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:53 AM
Saw Captivity lasy night - As far as the 'disturbed guy torturing hot girls genre goes' it was a good movie - Hopefully it'll pull in some B.O
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by optimus1
^^It will end up making money with the dvd , not a hell of a lot of money but it will end up in the black. Just like a lot of other movies these days. Serenity was a huge dud in the theaters that has now creeped into the black and has a new special edition dvd coming out this summer. I think LFODH will do well this weekend.
We'll see. It's not guaranteed. Like I said, right now 28 Weeks Later has lost money. If it is a huge DVD hit, then it might turn a very small profit. Captivity is not going to make any money. Not in the middle of July.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:02 PM
LFoDH Wednesday estimate: $8,870,000.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart...7-06-27&p=.htm
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:07 PM
That's an alright number for Live Free or Die Hard. Could be better though. Remember, it is a weekday and summer doesn't really officially start up until July when all kids are out of school and people are on their summer vacations. It should make around the same or more on Friday.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:08 PM
That number is pretty much in line with expectation right? $15 million on Wed. and Thurs. and then about $30-$35 million for the weekend. That seems to be what the general consensus was.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:15 PM
Pretty much expected for DH4. The problem is that it might not be able to use its good WOM to grow good legs, with Transformers and HP5 coming in. Two absolutely massive openers in a row is going to make it hard for DH4 to stay afloat.

I always thought that DH4 is the film that was going to get eaten alive by the big boys, and unfortunately that scenario seems likely. This should have been a fall release, it could have gone for much bigger numbers there.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:21 PM
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That number is pretty much in line with expectation right? $15 million on Wed. and Thurs. and then about $30-$35 million for the weekend. That seems to be what the general consensus was.
Exactly.
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  #2256  
Old 06-28-2007, 12:34 PM
As far as summer blockbusters go, a $30 million three-day/$45 million five-day opening is pretty mediocre.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:52 PM
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As far as summer blockbusters go, a $30 million three-day/$45 million five-day opening is pretty mediocre.
True, but it will end up doing better than Evan Almighty, lol, hopefully.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Let's not forget that none of the other Die Hards have ever opened big.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:11 PM
If it only makes 45 million over the 5 days then I think its pretty much a failure , mediocre is being kind.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:11 PM
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Let's not forget that none of the other Die Hards have ever opened big.
I had forgotten that, good point. The most a Die Hard film has opened with is 22 million, and that was Die Hard With a Vengeance.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:19 PM
Actuals are a tad higher. LFoDH's official opening is $9,111,638.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart...7-06-27&p=.htm
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Bourne101
I had forgotten that, good point. The most a Die Hard film has opened with is 22 million, and that was Die Hard With a Vengeance.
I guess the series is used to having legs and this may be true of this movie as its getting decent reviews. Maybe an opening 5 day take of 45-50 million isn't a bad thing after all. I find it hard to fathom that but what do I know.
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  #2263  
Old 06-28-2007, 02:23 PM
The last one also opened in only 2,500 theaters, and ticket prices were a whole lot lower. The per theater average is almost the same.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:44 AM
Thursday estimates

Live Free or Die Hard- 6 million (2 day total 15.1 million)
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:46 AM
Live Free or Die Hard's budget is 110 million. It should end up coming close to that domestically, but with worldwide numbers, it should crush its budget. And don't get me started on how much money it will make off DVD sales.

By the end of the weekend, Die Hard should come close to 50 million total. And with summer just getting started up, weekday numbers should be higher.

It's official, Live Free or Die Hard is a box-office and critical success.

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Old 06-29-2007, 12:09 PM
Not a bad hold, considering most movies that debut on Wednesday take a 40+% dip the next day.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:17 PM
It will be interesting to see Friday numbers for Die Hard. I think about 10 or 11 million, but it wouldn't surprise me if it made 14 or 15.
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  #2268  
Old 06-29-2007, 12:37 PM
I'm gonna lowball it and guess around $9-10 million for Friday.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Bourne101
[B It's official, Live Free or Die Hard is a box-office and critical success. [/B]
Um, sorry, but no, simply not true. It is nothing close to official. First of all, LFODH is reported to have cost closer to $150 million. I don't care what boxofficemojo says. They have been wrong before. And if this tops out at $110 million, barely beating Die Hard w/ a Vengeance even with the help of much higher ticket prices and a prime summer release date, then no, it is far from a box office success.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:26 PM
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Um, sorry, but no, simply not true. It is nothing close to official. First of all, LFODH is reported to have cost closer to $150 million. I don't care what boxofficemojo says. They have been wrong before. And if this tops out at $110 million, barely beating Die Hard w/ a Vengeance even with the help of much higher ticket prices and a prime summer release date, then no, it is far from a box office success.
It should gross well over 150 million worldwide, and I'm pretty sure Die Hard with a Vengeance didn't have Transformers, Harry Potter, 1408, Fantastic Four, Ocean's 13 and Knocked Up banging at its door.

There is no doubt it will be a success, domestically and worldwide. It might not make 150 million domestically, but as I have said many times before, we are only a small part of the big world who are dying to see Live Free or Die Hard.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:27 PM
I want this to work, but with Transformers and other big name movies on the way, it needs to make as much as it can, as fast as it can.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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I want this to work, but with Transformers and other big name movies on the way, it needs to make as much as it can, as fast as it can.
True, but I don't think Transformers will affect Die Hard's numbers as much as people are saying. Transformers will make big numbers, no doubt, but there are a lot of people who would much rather see Die Hard over Transformers, just as there are a lot of people who would much rather see Transformers over Die Hard.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Bourne101
True, but I don't think Transformers will affect Die Hard's numbers as much as people are saying. Transformers will make big numbers, no doubt, but there are a lot of people who would much rather see Die Hard over Transformers, just as there are a lot of people who would much rather see Transformers over Die Hard.
I was thinking more of repeat showings. I liked Die Hard for instance (7/10), and thought about seeing it again next weekend with my buds, but Transformers is out so were going to see that instead. ( I hope its good, but im not exactly excited over it)

As far as seeing both however, yeah i agree, people arent going to really "choose" one or the other. Most will probably see both at some point.

If anything, with the utter GLUT of movies out and on the way, i think Transformers total isnt going to be as earth shattering as some seem to think it will be.

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Old 06-29-2007, 02:50 PM
That is a very good Thursday number for Die Hard after a pretty decent Wednesday number. Most Wednesday openers fall 45-50% on Thursday before increasing again on Friday. A number around $10 million sounds right for today.

So it's going to have about a $30 million opening 3-day weekend as opposed to $50 million. Still, if the budget is $110 million, the movie has absolutely nothing to worry about.

I wouldn't call it an "official" box office success yet either, but it should fare just fine, and I certainly WOULD call it a critical success. No one in the world thought this was going to have a 77% tomatometer, and lots of major critics like it too.

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Old 06-29-2007, 02:57 PM
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and I certainly WOULD call it a critical success. No one in the world thought this was going to have a 77% tomatometer, and lots of major critics like it too.
It deserves it.

Even tho i feel like we have a better verion on the way coem DVD, it wasnt bad at all. far better then i thought it would for a PG-13 entry into a hard R rated series.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:01 AM
I'm praying that DH will have room to grow legs.

The general WOM seems exceptionally strong: It has -A at Yahoo, which is the most accurate indicator of mainstream WOM. 8.4 at IMDB. It just raised to 78% again at RT. And it's having strong reactions on all sites I regularly visit, even the talkbackers at AICN are digging it a lot.

And personally, I fucking loved it. Here is finally a summer event movie that deserves every penny it makes. I also thougt it was clearly better than Transformers, which was rather good in its own right. It's also better than the two other DH sequels.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:09 AM
1. RATATOUILLE BVI 3,940 16,395,000 4,161 n/a 16,395,000
2. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,175 10,495,000 3,306 n/a 25,507,000
3. EVAN ALMIGHTY UNIVERSAL 3,602 5,023,000 1,395 -55% 50,535,125
4. 1408 MGM 2,678 3,676,000 1,373 -52% 33,457,034
5. FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,963 2,695,000 680 -55% 108,547,632
6. KNOCKED UP UNIVERSAL 2,972 2,246,000 756 -33% 117,231,335
7. OCEAN'S THIRTEEN WARNER BROS. 3,450 1,887,000 547 -46% 97,938,028
8. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END BVI 2,802 1,452,000 518 -28% 292,248,588
9. SICKO LIONS GATE 441 1,368,000 3,102 5,600% 1,368,000
10. EVENING FOCUS FEATURES 977 1,212,000 1,241 n/a 1,212,000
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:40 AM
Hmm LFODH is gonna end up with around 45-47 million for the first 5 days..That to me is kinda disappointing.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:52 AM
With decent weekend matinees Ratatouille should have $50-55 million for the 3-day weekend. A $10.5 million Friday is solid for Die Hard and should lead to around a $32 million 3-day (which would mean $47 million since Wednesday).
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:25 PM
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Hmm LFODH is gonna end up with around 45-47 million for the first 5 days..That to me is kinda disappointing.
The good news is that it immediately started growing legs. The Wednesday opening was pretty meh, as expected. But it had a smaller than expected decrease on Thursday, and larger than expected increase on Friday. It's performing much better than Wednesday openers tend to do.

At least it has a legimate shot at 100+ million now, something it didn't really seem to have after that Wed opening. Without Transformers coming in it could have gone for 130+ million.
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