SILENT HILL 2 (NO Gans or Avary??)

[ScaryFreak1827]

Here's a sad article from Shocktillyoudrop.com:



EXCL: Avary Skips Trip to Silent Hill 2
Source: Ryan RottenJuly 18, 2007


"If the fog rolls in over the town of Silent Hill again, it will be without screenwriter Roger Avary. The scribe credited for Pulp Fiction, Killing Zoe and the Brett Easton Ellis adaptation The Rules of Attraction brought the video game world of the "Silent Hill" series to atmospheric life in last year's film directed by Christophe Gans.

But in talking with Shock on the Paramount lot about his upcoming collaboration with Neil Gaiman and Robert Zemeckis, Beowulf, he reveals, "I'm not gonna do Silent Hill 2," a pause, maybe to renege on that comment, then an assured, "If Christophe's not gonna do it, I'm not..."

Then that settles that. When we had spoken to producer Don Carmody (here), he hinted that Gans was similarly too busy with other work and didn't appear interested in following up his "Hill" film. This doesn't mean the sequel was dead, however, a new installment will progress without the director and writer.

Meanwhile, Avary's take on the spooky Dan Brereton comic book "The Nocturnals" is still trying to find some life. "I'm seeing Dan [Brereton] next week - he's going to be at Comic-Con," Avary says. "I'd love to see that made. I actually gave the comics to [Beowulf producer] Jeff Rapke and was like, 'Check this out, this is the shit!'" Needless to say, "Nocturnals" fans will have to patiently wait a bit longer before they see Doc Horror, Halloween Girl and, more importantly, Gunwitch, on the big screen."





The fact that neither the director or the screenwriter will return for the sequel is EXTREMELY dissapointing! Who could they find to do a decent job?? I almost wonder if a sequel will ever be made.....

[JackassFan]

Oh dear, I love what they did with the first one..

[syxxpac]

Avary isn't exactly a loss, but without Gans...

We'll see. But I'm more than wary now.

[Cronos]

Avary not returning doesn't bother me but Gans did a great job with SH and replacing him doesn't give me much hope. hopefully they'll find somebody that has a good eye for visuals like Gans

[vesaker]

That does suck but its not like every series/trilogy/sequal has the same director/screen writer for every flick and some of them are pretty good

[X-Nightcrawler]

Gans is a sad but replacable loss. Avery . . . psh, whatever.

Both did awesome jobs in "Silent Hill". But Avery's screenplay wasn't groundbreaking stuff. I just want an announcement about the movie's production and news on who the new crew is. Gans isn't exactly the only director who could pull of a "Silent Hill" movie, so, really, it isn't that big a deal.

I'm just pissed he lost total interest in the franchise.

As long as they have a visual director who gives a shit about the games, and videogames in general, I'll be fine.

[Xipe Totec]

I do hope that Konami has enough power over this project and decency to not let it happen if the replacements are totally wrong.

I mean, if Gans and Avery are off, I mean maybe SH2 by David Lynch? I mean, please, make it happen! Some way, somehow. It's so totally silly thing to hope for, but c'mon.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Xipe Totec
I mean, if Gans and Avery are off, I mean maybe SH2 by David Lynch?

Don't ever say that in my presence!

I'd prefer Paul Anderson to direct SH2 before David Lynch.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Don't ever say that in my presence!

I'd prefer Paul Anderson to direct SH2 before David Lynch.

what? As if David Lynch would ever direct a video game film, he's a creative genuis, paul anderson is a hack who makes popcron movies, imo

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
what? As if David Lynch would ever direct a video game film, he's a creative genuis, paul anderson is a hack who makes popcron movies, imo

Hypothetically. David Lynch would unavoidably make me hate a "Silent Hill" title, and that's a lot to say. The games are nothing like his self indulgent pieces of shit. Not even in mood. Nothing.

Paul Anderson would surely screw "Silent Hill" up, too. But at least his version would be very fun.

[Xipe Totec]

I would fucking love to see a Silent Hill by David Lynch, but you make me sound as if I believed it could happen in this reality.

Yeah, Lynch could very possibly fuck Silent Hill up enough that it would actually be a Silent Hill movie. Silent Hill film could in reality only work if it stepped on the dangerous path of arthouse films, otherwise it might work, but it would be half-assed at best. Gans did a great job at poking the artistic territory a little, the second one should go further.

And I do believe Silent Hill series and the work of David Lynch are connected and similar in many ways.

Lynch would, though, totally fuck the film up, , no doubt about that. Yet, it would be a fuck up I'd gladly pay to see when compared to, well, some other type of fuck-ups. I'm as protective of the essence of Silent Hill as any other hillophile, but it just couldn't be achieved on big screen unless the original team got a poke at it. The best way, as I see it, is to grab an "artist" and let him run with it.

And I do believe the creative team behind the games would have it the same way as opposed to the way of the movie companies. Now it's only up to whichever has more rights to the project.

[ScaryFreak1827]

I read recently that the Silent Hill video games were inspired by both the movie Jacob's Ladder AND David Lynch films... Hmm...

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by ScaryFreak1827
I read recently that the Silent Hill video games were inspired by both the movie Jacob's Ladder AND David Lynch films... Hmm...

Yeah, down to some exact scene recreations (like the closet scene in Blue Velvet and the closet scene in SH2).

But, in my opinion, "They're both confusing, lol" is not enough to really compare each other. I can't think of one Lynch movie that really resembles the games in any way (I mean, that, in any way; neither deals with the same things, neither has the same visuals or atmosphere, and I love the visuals and atmosphere in Lynch movies).

"Jacob's Ladder" is a more obvious inspiration. Visually, narratively, thematically speaking.

But in the end, "Silent Hill" is really unlike anything you've seen. It's that original. Inspirations, sure.

And no, I don't think he'd jump into a videogame bandwagon. I'm glad. He should stay in the arthouse cinema that's nested him since the beginning, and where he has the cult following. "Silent Hill" is fundamentally more mainstream than any arthouse movie.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Well, according to Arrow's front page, not only is Silent Hill 2 still a go (no one seemed to have doubted that, though), but Christophe Gans will be 'watching over' the project. I don't know what that means, but I like that he's going to be hanging around the set.

[vesaker]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Well, according to Arrow's front page, not only is Silent Hill 2 still a go (no one seemed to have doubted that, though), but Christophe Gans will be 'watching over' the project. I don't know what that means, but I like that he's going to be hanging around the set.

Hopefully it meens he'll be standing behind the actual director with a big ruler to slap him on the hand with and say "NO! not like that , like this."

And theres lots of Jacobs Ladder stuffi nSH, more then ny other referenceing i would think, even down to things like in SH3 your character needs to get to Bergin (sp?) station which is the same station Jacob is trying to get to at the start of the film

Also in the 3rd installment theres a dircect shot out of Session 9 as well.

[Cronos]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
but Christophe Gans will be 'watching over' the project.

gives me a little more hope for it

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Hypothetically. David Lynch would unavoidably make me hate a "Silent Hill" title, and that's a lot to say. The games are nothing like his self indulgent pieces of shit. Not even in mood. Nothing.

Paul Anderson would surely screw "Silent Hill" up, too. But at least his version would be very fun.

david lynch is a visoinary one of the few people making interesting and inovative films, self indulgent, bah! self indulgent to be is grindhouse or kill bill! not the lost highway or blue velvet which are master pieces of modern cimema. That said.

I was supprised by how mush I liked the silent hil film, as suprissed as I was by liking Constantine, I love Silent hill one and 2 and am not so keen on 3 and the room as we have discussed on the video games board, I hope if they make another film of silent hill It will be better than the res evil films, by this i mean fucked up and dark,

but saying lynch is shit is not aloud. Especially not when he would never lower himself to make a video game movie.

[dellamorte dellamore]

This one is easy , it's either Fresnadillo who proved that he knows horror with 28 weeks later or Aja , well , i'm sure everyone knows what that guy has done , just a little film called Haute Tension and to top it off the Hills remake .


As for the writer , i don't know , who's that guy who directed The Invisible , he could pull it off , dint he write BB ? I'm sure he could handle the world of Silent Hill in convincing fashion .

I still respect what both Gans and Avary did with the first one , it's an amazing film , but almost anyone can be replaced , even though i hoped they wouldn't be in this instance .

[IronMonkey]

Originally posted by syxxpac
Avary isn't exactly a loss, but without Gans...

We'll see. But I'm more than wary now.

ditto

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by vesaker
Hopefully it meens he'll be standing behind the actual director with a big ruler to slap him on the hand with and say "NO! not like that , like this."

And theres lots of Jacobs Ladder stuffi nSH, more then ny other referenceing i would think, even down to things like in SH3 your character needs to get to Bergin (sp?) station which is the same station Jacob is trying to get to at the start of the film

Also in the 3rd installment theres a dircect shot out of Session 9 as well.

Oooh, I loved that visual.

Hell, one of the subway lines in "The Room" is called "Lynch" after, doy, David. I think there's a "Cronenberg" and another few.

But there are literally hundreds of references to stuff in "Silent Hill" and they are way too scattershot to credit as inspirations. Stephen King's "The Shinning" (one wall says "redrum"), "The Regulators" (same plot as Alessa's idea), Dean Koontz' "Phantoms" (following a similar original plotline), "Sphere", "The Silence of the Lambs" (in the first game, there's a newspaper cutout saying "Bill Skins Fifth"). Hell, here's a list:

# Midwich Street - The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham
# Finney Street - Jack Finney (Invasion of the Body Snatchers)
# Matheson Street - Richard Matheson (Hell House)
# Bloch Street - Robert Bloch (Psycho)
# Bradbury street - Ray Bradbury (Dark Carnival)
# Ellroy Street - James Ellroy (Silent Terror)
# Crichton Street - Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park)
# Koontz Street - Dean Koontz (Phantoms)
# Wilson Street - Paul Wilson (The Keep)
# Sagan Street - Carl Sagan (Contact)
# Simmons Street - Dan Simmons (Children of Night)
# Sandford Street - John Sandford (The Night Crew)
# Weaver Street - Michael D. Weaver (My Father, The Immortal)
# Bachman Street - Richard Bachman (Rage)
# Craig Street - Brian Craig (The Werewolves of London)

And that's just street names (SH2's streets are also called after authors). There are hundreds more in SH1 alone. There are also movie posters (my favorite being "Carrie" outside the Green Lion's Antique shop.

I love all these references and homages they do to dozens and dozens of titles and authors. But it's hard to consider them all influences. Either way, it's fun to look and catch all of these. There's a theatre world in 0rigns, hopefully that one will have more stuff like this.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
This one is easy , it's either Fresnadillo who proved that he knows horror with 28 weeks later or Aja , well , i'm sure everyone knows what that guy has done , just a little film called Haute Tension and to top it off the Hills remake .


As for the writer , i don't know , who's that guy who directed The Invisible , he could pull it off , dint he write BB ? I'm sure he could handle the world of Silent Hill in convincing fashion .

I still respect what both Gans and Avary did with the first one , it's an amazing film , but almost anyone can be replaced , even though i hoped they wouldn't be in this instance .

good sudjustions
or maybe even get some japanese people in on it?

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
good sudjustions
or maybe even get some japanese people in on it?

HELL NO! And have another "Ring Two" or "The Grudge (remake)"? For some reason, japanese directors just don't know what they're doing when they cross into american filmmaking.

. . . what's funny is that I can only think of who NOT to hire as a director, but not of who should.

Fresnadillo is an interesting choice. Oddly enough, "28 Weeks Later" is my all time favorite horror movie after "Silent Hill", but I'd sure as hell wouldn't want the energy from Weeks in a "Silent Hill" movie.

Wait! What about Brad Anderson? He'd be a great choice. Has the right eye for visuals, mood, storytelling, etc.

[X-Nightcrawler]

An interesting thing. IMDb posted the following as the plot.

"The second installment of the Silent Hill series leads journalist Brett Cartland into Portland, Maine to work on a documentary about the abandoned mining town of Silent Hill. He finds himself trapped inside of a closing shopping mall with a mysterious young woman named Kara. The exits are blocked and a series of odd noises from an unknown section of the mall lead to an unimaginable terror. Kara and Brett go deep into Silent Hill during the second act of the film in the search of her true identity. He quickly learns that there is more to her past than she is letting on."

SH3 meets incoherency considering Silent Hill is in West Virginia and this guy goes to Maine.

It also lists Diana Scarwind as "Claudia Wolf" (character from SH3) and some dude called "Roby Lee" being attached. Oh, and apparently Gans and Avery are writing. Right.

Hold the fucking "Ugh! Don't pay attention to IMDb! It's not reliable! Urgh!" (since it also listed David Boreanaz in the lead role of the first movie) I know! I know that, I just thought this could be an interesting thing to add.

[dellamorte dellamore]

No worries about Fres getting too frantic if he takes the reigns of SH2 , he's a very diverse director who cut his teeth with an art house suspense / mystery film called Intacto , he knows from creating the proper mood depending on the material and what he's trying to convey . He would no doubt have no problem creating a genuinely creepy atmosphere for this sequel .

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
HELL NO! And have another "Ring Two" or "The Grudge (remake)"? For some reason, japanese directors just don't know what they're doing when they cross into american filmmaking.

. . . what's funny is that I can only think of who NOT to hire as a director, but not of who should.

Fresnadillo is an interesting choice. Oddly enough, "28 Weeks Later" is my all time favorite horror movie after "Silent Hill", but I'd sure as hell wouldn't want the energy from Weeks in a "Silent Hill" movie.

Wait! What about Brad Anderson? He'd be a great choice. Has the right eye for visuals, mood, storytelling, etc.

seeing as its a japanese video game and i have not seen the ring or gruge remakes

silent hill your all time favorite horror movie?

you beging to llove me right?

I merely was thinking that perhapes given its a film from a japanese game that a japanese directer such as Katsuhito Ishii might work.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
silent hill your all time favorite horror movie?

'das right. I'm a fucking HUGE fan of the games and the movie was such a joy to watch.

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
you beging to llove me right?

I'm still debating that.

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
I merely was thinking that perhapes given its a film from a japanese game that a japanese directer such as Katsuhito Ishii might work.

Japanese filmmakers kick ass at japanese cinema. When they come to the US and they have to do american cinema they have this frankenstyle that often sucks.

I'm still hoping it's someone like Brad Anderson.

[X-Nightcrawler]

So.

Sony might be planning "Silent Hill 2" and "Silent Hill 3"?

[FireCaptain4]

'Silent Hill' Sequel OFFICIAL! Shooting Next Year!

Some huge movies before I shut down for the evening, Columbia Pictures has finally officially announced a sequel to Silent Hill, which will begin production after the completion of Sony Screen Gems' Resident Evil: Afterlife. Screenwriter Roger Avary and Samuel Hadida of Davis Films are returning. Read on for the skinny. No director has been named yet.

Roger Avary and Samuel Hadida of Davis Films are climbing back up "Silent Hill."

The screenwriter and producer have signed on for a sequel to their 2006 video game adaptation.

The original, based on the Konami game, centered on a woman who travels to a desolate town to seek help for her ailing daughter only to find supernatural occurrences taking place there.

Davis Films aims to shoot the movie next year after "Resident Evil 4," which it's now prepping.

TriStar released the original "Silent Hill," which earned $47 million domestically; the label has not confirmed involvement on the follow-up.

Avary, best known for his work on Quentin Tarantino scripts such as "Pulp Fiction," also is penning video game adaptation "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" for Davis Films.

The deal is one of several projects for Hadida's company. The French-based banner has come to Toronto with two projects -- Michael Bassett's "Solomon Kane" and the Terry Gilliam-helmed "The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus."

"Kane," based on Robert Howard's early 20th-century pulp novels that blend fantasy and history, screened in the Cannes market in the spring, and Davis Films is hoping for new attention and offers at TIFF. The pic is set to play Wednesday in the Midnight Madness section.

"The cut is basically the same, but a lot of distributors wanted to see it with an audience, which could really affect how a film plays," Hadida said.

Despite the lesser-known cast -- James Purefoy, starring in the title role, is perhaps the best-known name -- the filmmakers believe "Kane" could sell on the brand value of the Howard creation.

"The property is the star," said Paul Berrow, who is producing with Hadida.

"Parnassus" will be released by Sony Pictures Classics following an involved postproduction process that included a stop at Cannes in May.

In addition to the "Resident Evil" franchise, Hadida counts movies such as "Good Night, and Good Luck" and "The Rules of Attraction" among his credits.

That snuck up on us. Thoughts?

[ScaryFreak1827]

WOO! Glad to hear I'm hoping the sequel lives up to the first.

[chelovek]

I liked the direction of that movie (the first 45-60 minutes were a dream, well, nightmare, come true), but the weak script truly ruined it.

I don't have a problem with them doing something different from the games storylines (in fact, I'm glad they did), but Avary really fucked up. The premise from the game would have given him the creative flexibility to have essentially whatever plot he wanted. It's like Avary sat down and said, "Hm, the town is percieved differently to those who enter it? Let's scrap that and reduce all of the mystery and power of the town to an angry child's ghost's desire for revenge, and let's not even bother making a logical, coherent script out of that idea either.