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10-28-2009, 06:42 PM
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hunting
 i just caught za natural world, ep focused on black bears in minnesota. can't understand why peeps would get pleasure from setting bait, sitting up a tree till a curious bear comes along and then shooting it dead. if i ever met a bear hunter i'd laugh in his face as i find the whole thing beyond stupid. is overpopulation the reason why this is legal in america? do any of you know people that hunt bears? i guess some of you are lucky enough to have bears chipping round your woods. round these parts all i see are squirrels, and dem squirrel covers course, yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa! 
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#2
10-28-2009, 06:47 PM
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Is it me, or does that bear's face look a little weird? Hmmm...Anyways, I am opposed to hunting and know a lot of people who are really into it (hunting deer), but I don't know anyone who hunts bears. I don't understand the point either. Is it to feel bigger than a bear? Is that something people brag about? I just...don't...know.
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10-28-2009, 06:53 PM
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My initial instinct is: ban hunting. It's a cruel inhumane "hobby". But a while back I saw a documentary on the hunting industry in....I think Kenya, which made me think twice. Hunting is big business, because of that the ones operating the industry conserve the big game animals. Without the hunting industry supposedly those species would be under greater threat. Maybe its the same with those bears.
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10-28-2009, 07:48 PM
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A little early to start drinking eh Cosimo?
In all seriousness, I find hunting in general to be extremely stupid. But at least it gets the rednecks out of Walmart for a couple hours.
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10-28-2009, 08:02 PM
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There's a line in one of my scripts:
"Hell Yeah, Now let's go kill some defenseless creatures!" Oh, and this stupid girl who talked to me about moonshine for a few HOURS (You gotta let a strawberry soak in that shit for like a month. Eat that strawberry- you get fucked up offa two bites!) also said this, "I don't hunt for sport, I eat the meat." Oh man I laughed so hard about that, that its going to be a bumper sticker on my car
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10-28-2009, 10:10 PM
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Not a fan of hunting AT ALL. Especially if its just for sport. I mean, if you are lost out in the wilderness like Emile Hirsch in Into the Wild, feel free to kill an animal for food (thats how nature works).
There are these wild pigs in Arizona called Javelinas and apparently hunters love hunting them here simply for sport.  I just typed in "javelina" in photobucket and there are a ton of pics of hunters holding up them in their pics. Wow, how badass. You killed a pig with your rifle.  
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#8
10-28-2009, 11:22 PM
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The only way I could ever hunt is if I absolutely had to and I don't forsee that ever happening. Hunting to survive is perfectly justified. Hunting for sport is just an excuse to satisfy our instinctive blood lust.
Truthfully, I'd rather hunt people than animals. We're more deserving of being hunted down and shot, besides, man is the most dangerous game of all  Last edited by Potter82; 10-28-2009 at 11:25 PM..
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10-28-2009, 11:47 PM
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But all the same, take what you need, not what you want.
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10-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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10-29-2009, 02:22 PM
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I dont think sitting in a tree top, and waiting for an innocent creature to nibble on the food YOU set out for it, is good hunting. Frankly its pathetic.
Now, human hunting. That I can get behind. 
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10-29-2009, 02:42 PM
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Deer hunting is HUGE where I live. I don't do it personally, but I have many friends and family members that do. It is regulated though, so it's not as if they are just going around killing as many deer as they possibly can.
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10-29-2009, 02:46 PM
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I don't see the "sport" in killing a creature that doesn't know it's part of the game.
There are many things that makes me NOT oppose hunting, though. First of all, if it's not a threat to species if they are hunted, then so be it. I won't let my misunderstanding of the so-called "sport" impede on others' wishes and desires. I hate poachers. People who do a kill should take the responsibility to clean up after themselves and know when enough is enough. In some areas, hunting is a good thing. Deer isn't a natural animal for America, and they eat young trees, reducing the speed of forest growth. They also reproduce in MASSIVE numbers, thus causing an imbalance in natural life processes where deer are present. Hunting season actually REDUCES the overpopulation of deer. So that's a good thing. It's also fine if you hunt for food and resources without going overboard. If you hunt for yourself and your immediate family, then that's all good. I've killed small game before, but it was for hunting and because it's not too difficult to maintain than if I killed a 12-pointer. I'd rather people hunted for something that was also stalking THEM. Now that's what I'd call a challenge!
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10-30-2009, 02:09 AM
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My grandfather used to hunt before winter. I always thought it was respectable since they lived about 60 miles from the nearest grocery and would often get snowed in, so whatever they caught before winter would be food through spring. He also grew his own fruits and vegetables. To me, that's really cool when people can live off the earth like that - infinitely more integrity than going to McDonald's where you are basically hunting animals from the comfort of your driver's seat. For the sake of not thinking I'm in the midst of mocking hypocrites, I'll assume most of the posters here are strictly vegan.
These people that sport trophies and do it just for bragging rights - not my style. You shot a deer. Yay! I avoided one with my car the other night; that probably took a lot more skill than your sport.
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10-30-2009, 02:24 AM
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The notion of banning hunting is completely ignorant. Responsible hunting walks hand and hand with responsible conservation. Deer especially would run rampant if hunting them was no allowed.The regulations and funds garnered for hunting liscenses are designed to keep animal populations at appropriate levels. Killing your own food could be considered more honorable than buying it from a butcher who just slit the animals throat.
On a side note hunting is not an easy sport. Deer and most animals have senses that far exceed our own and being able to get close enough for a shot is no simple task. Last edited by EVILxxx; 10-30-2009 at 03:41 AM..
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10-30-2009, 02:43 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with regulated hunting. I'm sure it's a blast for some people. I scratch my head when I hear people objecting to it. They're just animals. Food, fur, sport...fine with me as long as we're not talking extermination.
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#20
10-30-2009, 03:13 AM
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Florida, mid-late 80s, they not only moved alligators off the endangered species list, but started a hunting season for them. There may have been a lapse, but I swear it happened in one move.
There's these places where people go to get a deer stand and they breed deers on the property, so basically it's just deers bred for hunting. Some of these places even get into resort-styled living, and offer amenities like hot coffee in your deer stand. I don't know about everyone here, but I'd assume most of us are on the same page when saying this type of hunting just seems totally whacked. I've never hunted myself - have never actually been invited because aside from my grandfather I've never been close with any hunters. It's something I'd consider doing for maybe duck, rabbit, or something small that I've eaten before and if eating it was part of the whole experience. To me, it's along the lines of fishing. I don't think I'd be up for hunting big game, just because to me that's more hardcore and something I'm not really up for - I'd be like a casual movie fan being dragged to a film festival. A short day trip though would be alright. I don't own any camouflage though - the only thing I could think to wear would be my brown silk suit, and of course, herein lies possibles reveals as to why I've never been invited hunting.
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#21
10-30-2009, 03:46 AM
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We are Bubba. I went pheasant hunting the other day with my father and dog and maybe heard two gunshots for the first couple of hours. Then we heard shot after shot after shot because the stocking truck had showed up and the hunters were barely giving the birds a chance to spread out before shooting them which I though was pointless.
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10-30-2009, 06:36 AM
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There's only one way I see us defeating this malevolent hive mind, we must strategically place a comma before the entity known as "Bubba".
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#23
10-30-2009, 06:48 AM
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Since I am an animal lover, I see hunting as an unnecessary and cruel so-called sport. It is merely to fuel the egos of dumbass individuals who think that they are good shit and they are top stuff to kill animals when they clearly have the advantage. To those who hunt, try a one on one fair fight you fucking cocksuckers! Let's see one of you grapple a fully grown tiger bare handed. You wouldn't last a minute. Or how about a fully grown grizzly. You are all pathetic and fucking weakling cowards. You all feel safe behind your stupid guns. Hunters should all go and hunt eachother. How's that grab you. Fucking cowardly cunts you all are. FUCK YOU! Eat shit and die horribly.
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#24
10-30-2009, 08:11 AM
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Clearly a post born from the spirit of having a good discussion.
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10-30-2009, 09:10 AM
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my beef (slight pun intended) was with bear hunting, i should have been more specific in the thread title. people who live off the fat of the land don't sit up in trees munching snickers waiting for bears to shoot, nah they're just twats!
the hunting for food living out in the woods pheasant and rabbit type lot i give them a pass. i couldn't do it myself but some folk just be born into it
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#26
10-30-2009, 10:28 AM
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If it is for sustenance or to stem an overpopulation problem, I understand.
To prove that you can hunt down an animal that doesn't have the same hardware to return fire, I don't condone it.  FACT: Bambi's mom left her Carbine assault rifle in the cave that fateful day she got shot. Would've been a different movie otherwise...
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#27
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
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LMAO Rusty - that'd make a cool desk trinket.
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I agree with you, but don't think you should justify not wanting to hunt by saying you're an animal lover. That's not fair to you or to the people who hunt and also love animals. These people who hunt for trophies or kill animals just to be mean - I can't say they love animals, but at the same time, a vegan may love animals, but at some point you have some sick fuck who sleeps with zoo animals saying "Well I do this because I love animals." Do what you do - loving animals is a given. I generally assume everyone loves animals for the most part, and it's the people who act like they don't who are note-worthy.
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#28
10-30-2009, 12:45 PM
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it's these muppets i'm referring to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB_Au00p4PE
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10-31-2009, 02:37 AM
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That's a funny coincidence, I brought Ghost Dog and Dead Man to work tonight for my viewing pleasure. This scene is so freaking awesome, and I agree - those men were trash. The ending to that scene is classic. I love how he makes the second hunter squirm.
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11-01-2009, 05:49 PM
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11-01-2009, 06:28 PM
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I don't "like" hunting for sport, but I'm not against it. Hunting for food I don't have a problem with at all and can't really understand those who do unless they're vegan hardcore PETA people. Like EvilXXX pointed out, I think it's more honorable to kill your own meat than to buy it from a supermarket. I hate that animals have to suffer period, but I think hunting an animal in the wild is better than coralling it in a cage in some warehouse its whole miserable life then treating it to a Chigurgh special. I'd think it hypocritical to eat meat and be anti-hunting. Has to get on your plate somehow and anything's better than factory farming.
Sport hunting is a different story and that does rub me the wrong way. I don't understand what's fun about shooting an animal and it seems a cruel waste. But if there are more animals than we can reasonably eat and hunting kills less than overpopulation problems, it still serves a good purpose. If people enjoy it and it's beneficial to nature, who am I to judge? I guess I look at it like gun ownership or abortion. I'm not gonna do it, wish others did it less, but decidedly support the right to do it and think with regulation in place it's fine and even a positive on the whole. Last edited by QUENTIN; 11-01-2009 at 06:30 PM..
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11-01-2009, 07:56 PM
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I can't say I'm against hunting for food; it would make me a hypocrite because I do eat meat. Now if I had to go out and hunt my own food I think I'd have to be a vegetarian because I just don't think I could do it.
Hunting for sport I don't agree with. My hubby and I talked to the neighbor across the road a bit, didn't know him all that well. I walked over there a few times and had a beer with him and his wife outside during the summer. My hubby went in the house to help him with his computer one day and said there were bear heads mounted in the living room. I'd never been inside. I just can't comprehend why anyone would want to do that. I can understand hunting if you're going to eat what you kill, but hunting to be able to put an animal's head on your wall. I don't think they ate the meat.
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11-01-2009, 08:18 PM
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I am a vegetarian and even I think this post is crazy.
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11-01-2009, 08:36 PM
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That bear would shoot you if it had the chance. Fuck 'em.
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11-01-2009, 08:44 PM
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11-01-2009, 08:54 PM
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I do all of my hunting in the meat department of the grocery store. I guess I 'get' why people hunt, but I definitely think it would be a lot more sporting to just hand them a spear and say 'have at it' rather than all the cammo, guns, deer urine, GPS tracking, etc etc etc. There's no sport in that...
Personally if I were ever to get lost in the wilderness I would die of starvation. I don't have it in me to kill anything.
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#39
11-02-2009, 07:58 AM
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I was joking.
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