Raimi talks Spidey 4

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by: Paul Tassi Oct. 13, 2009

Villain speculation on SPIDER-MAN 4 is only surpassed by villain speculation on BATMAN 3 (DARK KNIGHT 2?), but it's still a hot topic for debate nonetheless. But with a lot of Peter Parker's remaining foes a bit on the cartoonish side, what bad guy will fit with the tone of the movie?

MTV sat down with Sam Raimi to talk villains, and though he didn’t drop a name, he said who he liked and didn’t, and explained his rationale behind the villain(s) he has chosen for the next film. "I love the Lizard," said Raimi. "

"There's a great story there in the Marvel comic books about Dr. Connors. I'm less familiar with Carnage." Raimi then took a long pause.

"I'm not allowed to say at this point," he confessed.

"What we're trying to do right now is really understand the journey Peter is going to go on this time and have the villain maybe be a counter to that growth, something that he has to overcome," Raimi said. "Or maybe he has to grow in a way to overcome the villain, because there always seem to be stories of coming of age, of a young man growing up and learning things about life, so once we are identifying the exact movement that Peter has to grow to, I think the villain—and we're trying this right now; we're trying to choose a villain based on who would be the proper counter to that growth, so we really have dramatic conflict."

Yeah, like when Peter Parker was going through his emo-hipster-dance phase, he logically fought Sandman, Green Goblin II and Venom, combining the emotional fragility of sand with the douchiness of air-snowboarding with the goth get-up of an alien symbiote. Dramatic conflict!

Whatever, at least Raimi seems like he’s thinking carefully about this decision, which is somewhat reassuring. But part of me thinking he’s just ready to be done with this series so he can go have fun making WORLD OF WARCRAFT with hot Night Elf babes.

Source: MTV

Extra Tidbit: Alright, what villain(s) do you want?

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kurofusen
2:22AM on 10/15/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
revenge
Not trying to defend SM3, but all 3 baddies were justified (if convoluted) in the over-arcing revenge/redemption theme.

I'd like to see Peter dealing with the further mutation of his powers in the next film. The lizard would be a perfect villain in this case and... if done properly...(braces for backlash) they could introduce Carnage as the ultimate evil that Spidey could become...
Not trying to defend SM3, but all 3 baddies were justified (if convoluted) in the over-arcing revenge/redemption theme.

I'd like to see Peter dealing with the further mutation of his powers in the next film. The lizard would be a perfect villain in this case and... if done properly...(braces for backlash) they could introduce Carnage as the ultimate evil that Spidey could become if his evolution goes out of control.

There. I said it. I'd like to see Carnage.
 
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RizzleB
2:12AM on 10/15/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Why doesn't anybody remember that Spidey 1 & 2 were great? I'm looking forward to this one. I say Lizard and Kraven...or Lizard and Kingpen. And gimme Bruce's cameo as Mysterio.
Why doesn't anybody remember that Spidey 1 & 2 were great? I'm looking forward to this one. I say Lizard and Kraven...or Lizard and Kingpen. And gimme Bruce's cameo as Mysterio.
 
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Tailgunner
2:38PM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
It's about time we got the Lizard. I'd be cool with Mysterio or the Scorpion, too, or any of the old-school villains. But that bit about Carnage worries me. I hope he's not having carnage forced upon him; that character is even more aweful than Venom.
It's about time we got the Lizard. I'd be cool with Mysterio or the Scorpion, too, or any of the old-school villains. But that bit about Carnage worries me. I hope he's not having carnage forced upon him; that character is even more aweful than Venom.
 
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JacksColdSweat
11:21AM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I say...
bring on Connors and the Lizard. Probably the most logical step to take seeing as how they've built up to it throughout the last flicks.
bring on Connors and the Lizard. Probably the most logical step to take seeing as how they've built up to it throughout the last flicks.
 
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Battosai
6:03AM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Sinister Six!!!
Sinister Six!!!
 
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Venom3344
2:17AM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The lizard has to be in the next one. It would just be really ridiculous if he isn't. Also, the look of him needs to be creepy looking, but at the same time really bad ass. Kind of like when you first see the face of the predator in predator.
The lizard has to be in the next one. It would just be really ridiculous if he isn't. Also, the look of him needs to be creepy looking, but at the same time really bad ass. Kind of like when you first see the face of the predator in predator.
 
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lanekelley
12:01AM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Kraven
Need Jeffery Dean Morgan as Kraven, who comes to town to hunt spider-man, along the way he hunts down the lizard, and maybe other villains..like scorpion or rhino. Not more origin stories, just jump in with already having the rhino in there and scorpion, too. Jeffery dean morgan could fill Kraven's role, easy, though!
Need Jeffery Dean Morgan as Kraven, who comes to town to hunt spider-man, along the way he hunts down the lizard, and maybe other villains..like scorpion or rhino. Not more origin stories, just jump in with already having the rhino in there and scorpion, too. Jeffery dean morgan could fill Kraven's role, easy, though!
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Doctor Zubian
6:32AM on 10/14/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
exactly what i wanna see, Kraven hunting The Lizard and Spiderman
exactly what i wanna see, Kraven hunting The Lizard and Spiderman
 
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track100
11:31PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Bruce as Mysterio
I'm using The Secret to make this happen
I'm using The Secret to make this happen
 
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JoeChar4321
10:35PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Will Be Awesome
I can't wait for this one! Raimi is going to blow people away. I think he took it personal when some fanboys whined about SM3. It wasn't his fault that they crammed Venom down his throat and in to that film. He's taking this back to SM2 quality and I'm all for it regardless of the villain.
I can't wait for this one! Raimi is going to blow people away. I think he took it personal when some fanboys whined about SM3. It wasn't his fault that they crammed Venom down his throat and in to that film. He's taking this back to SM2 quality and I'm all for it regardless of the villain.
 
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drc5145
10:03PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The Lizard is absolutely the next logical choice. It has potential to give us a villain that was as good as, if not, better than Alfred Molina's Doc Ock from Spidey 2.
The Lizard is absolutely the next logical choice. It has potential to give us a villain that was as good as, if not, better than Alfred Molina's Doc Ock from Spidey 2.
 
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Ayestrain
10:00PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
They've got to do Chameleon and Mysterio in the next. I know I'm in the minority here but I would also like to see Hobgoblin someday..
They've got to do Chameleon and Mysterio in the next. I know I'm in the minority here but I would also like to see Hobgoblin someday..
 
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Netforce
9:50PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
For extra tidbit: The Lizard, Shocker.
For extra tidbit: The Lizard, Shocker.
 
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emjoi
9:07PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
eh.
IMVHO, Spidey 3 felt like that's enough.
That's your little story told and resolved.

"4" movies often feel like one movie too many... Superman 4, Alien 4.
IMVHO, Spidey 3 felt like that's enough.
That's your little story told and resolved.

"4" movies often feel like one movie too many... Superman 4, Alien 4.
 
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pcch7
7:56PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Kraven
Kraven
 
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Natty
7:24PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Lizard sounds good to me. I would also like something more like Spiderman 2 that focuses on Peter Parker as a character and it sounds like that's what Raimi is for.

This WILL be better than Spidey 3 I'm sure, as Raimi was pretty much forced to include Venom.
Lizard sounds good to me. I would also like something more like Spiderman 2 that focuses on Peter Parker as a character and it sounds like that's what Raimi is for.

This WILL be better than Spidey 3 I'm sure, as Raimi was pretty much forced to include Venom.
 
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egon_spengler
6:29PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
grow?
I'm a huge huge huge Spidey fan, and loved SM1 and 2, but 3 was an abortion. And for the record, I don't think Spiderman (Tobey, at least) needs to grow any more, I think he needs to actually LOSE some weight...
I'm a huge huge huge Spidey fan, and loved SM1 and 2, but 3 was an abortion. And for the record, I don't think Spiderman (Tobey, at least) needs to grow any more, I think he needs to actually LOSE some weight...
 
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Heisenberg
6:09PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The logical choice is Lizard, and I would LOVE that to happen. But I think the person most peeps would like to see is Mysterio, better that Bruce Campbell as Mysterio. Is there anything that could possible top that for awesomeness. Me thinks, probably... But at this point...yeah
The logical choice is Lizard, and I would LOVE that to happen. But I think the person most peeps would like to see is Mysterio, better that Bruce Campbell as Mysterio. Is there anything that could possible top that for awesomeness. Me thinks, probably... But at this point...yeah
 
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Heisenberg
6:09PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The logical choice is Lizard, and I would LOVE that to happen. But I think the person most peeps would like to see is Mysterio, better that Bruce Campbell as Mysterio. Is there anything that could possible top that for awesomeness. Me thinks, probably... But at this point...yeah
The logical choice is Lizard, and I would LOVE that to happen. But I think the person most peeps would like to see is Mysterio, better that Bruce Campbell as Mysterio. Is there anything that could possible top that for awesomeness. Me thinks, probably... But at this point...yeah
 
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tp4ever84
6:09PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I am upset. I had a sense that drew me here, something about the next Batman film. Paul, YOU cannot mention Batman and The Dark Knight 2 in your articles, some of us have a sixth sense and are drawn to it somehow then you dissapoint us. Again, do not mention The Batman and not have anything useful
I am upset. I had a sense that drew me here, something about the next Batman film. Paul, YOU cannot mention Batman and The Dark Knight 2 in your articles, some of us have a sixth sense and are drawn to it somehow then you dissapoint us. Again, do not mention The Batman and not have anything useful
 
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Brer B8a
5:49PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
When is Peter going to be all grown up? This should be the film where he is all grown up and is now a veteran superhero. No more bullshit about sacrifice and what he is meant to do blah blah..Like stranger said as well, make the villain an asshole from the get go.
When is Peter going to be all grown up? This should be the film where he is all grown up and is now a veteran superhero. No more bullshit about sacrifice and what he is meant to do blah blah..Like stranger said as well, make the villain an asshole from the get go.
 
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Miguelito
5:37PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
CARNAGE
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
 
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Miguelito
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CARNAGE
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
 
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anomaly7
5:35PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I hope it's the lizard, but I wonder if it will still be Dylan Baker. Since he's not as well known as the other actors who were cast as villians, I wonder if they will feel the need to cast a bigger name. Carnage would be cool and make up for the lame venom in 3, but i think they should build him up for a villian in the 5th or 6th film.
I hope it's the lizard, but I wonder if it will still be Dylan Baker. Since he's not as well known as the other actors who were cast as villians, I wonder if they will feel the need to cast a bigger name. Carnage would be cool and make up for the lame venom in 3, but i think they should build him up for a villian in the 5th or 6th film.
 
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Miguelito
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CARNAGE
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
...or Lizard would be cool. Both that he mentioned. Someone said Electro. YEEEEESSS!
 
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The_Soloist
5:33PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
In other news...
I think Thomas Jane should be cast as Captain America. Who is with me?
I think Thomas Jane should be cast as Captain America. Who is with me?
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Miguelito
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Needs to be someone more charismatic with presence and that really distinguished all-American look. Jane's just kind of bland.
Needs to be someone more charismatic with presence and that really distinguished all-American look. Jane's just kind of bland.
 
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The_Soloist
5:31PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I think....
that the villan should be Dr. Connors. If they were not going to do anything with him, then they would not have him making so many apperances in the movies. I also think that they should have Carnage and Venom in the sequels and then they should end the ffranchise at 6.
that the villan should be Dr. Connors. If they were not going to do anything with him, then they would not have him making so many apperances in the movies. I also think that they should have Carnage and Venom in the sequels and then they should end the ffranchise at 6.
 
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Smiert Spionam
5:13PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Let Me Get This Straight....
...after all this talk about there being more than a few treatments and drafts submitted already from several different writers,you fuckers STILL haven't even picked a villain yet?

Get the fuck outta here....
...after all this talk about there being more than a few treatments and drafts submitted already from several different writers,you fuckers STILL haven't even picked a villain yet?

Get the fuck outta here....
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Miguelito
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let them take their time. spiderman 3 was only 2 years ago, and they need to get this one right.
let them take their time. spiderman 3 was only 2 years ago, and they need to get this one right.
 
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Blanka
4:57PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Animal Cravings
Dr. Conners and other doctor create gene splicing. Dr. Conners regrows his arm .... changes into lizard. Bat genes to help stop anemic disease in other doctor ... Morbius. Peter is beginning to slowly become more arachnid .... man spider. Morbius gets stopped when he absorbs spider mutation. Conners captured and given retrovirus. Epic battles
Dr. Conners and other doctor create gene splicing. Dr. Conners regrows his arm .... changes into lizard. Bat genes to help stop anemic disease in other doctor ... Morbius. Peter is beginning to slowly become more arachnid .... man spider. Morbius gets stopped when he absorbs spider mutation. Conners captured and given retrovirus. Epic battles
 
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T DUBBS
4:52PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Elctro. And maybe they could ditch that lame Venom movie and just put him back in Spidey4?
Elctro. And maybe they could ditch that lame Venom movie and just put him back in Spidey4?
 
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Stranger496
4:34PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Well....
Green Goblin was driven crazy to become a villain by the gas, GG 2 was driven crazy by his father's ghost and the gas, Doc Ock was driven crazy by his arms, Venom was driven crazy by the suit...uh Sandman for some reason was bad then good and boring in the middle, but why not just use a villain who has the means and intelligence to be bad and then actually DECIDES to be bad such as the Vulture....
Green Goblin was driven crazy to become a villain by the gas, GG 2 was driven crazy by his father's ghost and the gas, Doc Ock was driven crazy by his arms, Venom was driven crazy by the suit...uh Sandman for some reason was bad then good and boring in the middle, but why not just use a villain who has the means and intelligence to be bad and then actually DECIDES to be bad such as the Vulture. Sure we're all sick of flying villains by now, but there's always room to improve. Get Ben Kingsley and I'm sold on #4.
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NO_FUN
5:49PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
People don't realise but that is supposed to be the whole point of Doc ock, he gains the power and decides to use it for bad and his own gain, the opposite to what Peter Parker chooses to do. People don't realise that, and though he was cool in spiderman 2, was done totally wrong. Doc ock's journey is supposed to be the same as Peter parker's up until when he chooses to go bad.
People don't realise but that is supposed to be the whole point of Doc ock, he gains the power and decides to use it for bad and his own gain, the opposite to what Peter Parker chooses to do. People don't realise that, and though he was cool in spiderman 2, was done totally wrong. Doc ock's journey is supposed to be the same as Peter parker's up until when he chooses to go bad.
 
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Dr.Frankenstein
4:19PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Man Wolf (foundation is already in place + he could act as an ally of Spider Man ultimately in the film) also-Gangster, Hammer Head! and yes it's time to bring to fruition the Lizard!... because the tease has gone on long enough!
Man Wolf (foundation is already in place + he could act as an ally of Spider Man ultimately in the film) also-Gangster, Hammer Head! and yes it's time to bring to fruition the Lizard!... because the tease has gone on long enough!
 
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sneekyfox
3:09PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
as long as the dont pull a 'hulk' with the graphics for conners/lizard. i would love to see bruce cambell as a small time villian who keeps getting caught by spiderman and truely wants to be bad but just cant compete with the real bad guys. in the relm of being more then a cameo but not really a full out character.one of those ' how the hell do you keep getting out of jail and how did you get h...
as long as the dont pull a 'hulk' with the graphics for conners/lizard. i would love to see bruce cambell as a small time villian who keeps getting caught by spiderman and truely wants to be bad but just cant compete with the real bad guys. in the relm of being more then a cameo but not really a full out character.one of those ' how the hell do you keep getting out of jail and how did you get here?" characters
 
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Jig Saw 123
3:00PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The Lizard sounds on par with the emotional journey Peter needs to overcome as a hero. The Green Goblin didn't really provide that aspect and neither did Dr. Octopus. Sandman was a copout, Green Goblin II was served as a wrap up of what was occurring for the pass three films, and Venom was just to please fans.

If the villain is Carnage, Mysterio, or Rhino, I'll be pissed.
The Lizard sounds on par with the emotional journey Peter needs to overcome as a hero. The Green Goblin didn't really provide that aspect and neither did Dr. Octopus. Sandman was a copout, Green Goblin II was served as a wrap up of what was occurring for the pass three films, and Venom was just to please fans.

If the villain is Carnage, Mysterio, or Rhino, I'll be pissed.
 
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csdot
2:48PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
the lizard would seem like natural choice, i mean they keep teasing us with connors in all 3 films. i remember early on they mention Morbius, that could be an interesting second villain as i believe they were linked in some way in the early comics. it would give raimi a chance to flex his fun horror muscles some more since hes proven hes still got it with DMTH
the lizard would seem like natural choice, i mean they keep teasing us with connors in all 3 films. i remember early on they mention Morbius, that could be an interesting second villain as i believe they were linked in some way in the early comics. it would give raimi a chance to flex his fun horror muscles some more since hes proven hes still got it with DMTH
 
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boognish
2:39PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Stick with the Classics, Spidey...
Here's an idea- The Lizard is on a rampage in New York. Spidey knows it's his friend Conners so he has to stop the Lizard without hurting him. Now evn in New York a giant, street brawling, Iguana-Man is going to raise a few eyebrows. So, through the sensational coverage of the Daily Bugle, the Lizard comes to the attention of Kraven the Hunter. Having already killed at least one evry other ani...
Here's an idea- The Lizard is on a rampage in New York. Spidey knows it's his friend Conners so he has to stop the Lizard without hurting him. Now evn in New York a giant, street brawling, Iguana-Man is going to raise a few eyebrows. So, through the sensational coverage of the Daily Bugle, the Lizard comes to the attention of Kraven the Hunter. Having already killed at least one evry other animal on the planet, he has become bored with the hunt and the prospect of this vicious new game has piqued his interest. so, Spidey has to Stop Kraven from killing Connors/Lizard while trying to stop the Lizard from disemboweling New York. Where's the emotional connection you ask? I don't know. But it would make one kick-ass Spidey flick.
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sneekyfox
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i think the whole emotional conflict would stem from peter parker being friends with conners and that 1/2 of his friends all seem to inexplicably turn into villans. oh and you could always have craven hunt spiderman too, and have a go at picking up mary jane.
i think the whole emotional conflict would stem from peter parker being friends with conners and that 1/2 of his friends all seem to inexplicably turn into villans. oh and you could always have craven hunt spiderman too, and have a go at picking up mary jane.
 
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deja vu
2:26PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
undead uncle ben!
morbius reveals that it was he who really killed uncle ben and now uncle ben is an undead blood sucking fieeend.
morbius reveals that it was he who really killed uncle ben and now uncle ben is an undead blood sucking fieeend.
 
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JimmyArrow
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Wrong track...
As much as I like Raimi, I never thought he got the tone of spider-man right. Stan Lee always talked about Parker's personnal life but he never turned his comics into coming-of-age, afterschool-specials type of stories. Spider-Man needs to be heroic and save other people, not just his friends and family!
As much as I like Raimi, I never thought he got the tone of spider-man right. Stan Lee always talked about Parker's personnal life but he never turned his comics into coming-of-age, afterschool-specials type of stories. Spider-Man needs to be heroic and save other people, not just his friends and family!
 
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TAE K
1:58PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
spider-man 3 had the vallain/conflict thing down pat
the conflict of spider-man 3 was all about battling your rage and controlling your power. thats why the villains were: the person who killed his uncle, his best friend-turned enemy, and an annoying bitch who's trying to ruin his career.

all three of them had personal stakes in peters life, and weren't just random villains. not only were they spider-man villains, they were peter...
the conflict of spider-man 3 was all about battling your rage and controlling your power. thats why the villains were: the person who killed his uncle, his best friend-turned enemy, and an annoying bitch who's trying to ruin his career.

all three of them had personal stakes in peters life, and weren't just random villains. not only were they spider-man villains, they were peter parker villains.

the movie may have sucked, but i got what raimi was talking about in that aspect.
 
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vesaker
1:50PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
hmmm
I'd say Conners as Lizard and some sort of story where someone finds a goblin stash and we finally get a cool looking Hobgoblin.
I'd say Conners as Lizard and some sort of story where someone finds a goblin stash and we finally get a cool looking Hobgoblin.
 
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UnkemptFilmFan
1:38PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Lizard, definitely
But as long as Carnage keeps popping up, how about Crispin Glover for the role? Unless I'm totally off, the voice is perfect and I doubt Glover will have a problem playing a serial killer.
But as long as Carnage keeps popping up, how about Crispin Glover for the role? Unless I'm totally off, the voice is perfect and I doubt Glover will have a problem playing a serial killer.
 
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Caddy Cads
1:27PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I'd like this
Connors still has some alien symbiote in his lab (Experiments with it- Lizard is born- Some of the symbiote escapes lab)- Creates Carnage(Jackie Earle Haley) - Spidey Defeats Lizard- Connors comes back tells Spidey he can't fight Carnage Alone- Venom comes back to help Spidey fight Carnage (Because he is that Badass)- Defeat Carnage - Venom goes away does his solo movie thing - Win
Connors still has some alien symbiote in his lab (Experiments with it- Lizard is born- Some of the symbiote escapes lab)- Creates Carnage(Jackie Earle Haley) - Spidey Defeats Lizard- Connors comes back tells Spidey he can't fight Carnage Alone- Venom comes back to help Spidey fight Carnage (Because he is that Badass)- Defeat Carnage - Venom goes away does his solo movie thing - Win
 
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ExarKoontz
1:01PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
SHOCKER
lol j/k! Either Electro or Kraven The Hunter
lol j/k! Either Electro or Kraven The Hunter
 
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Servo
12:37PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Lizard
It makes sense for the emotional growth aspect. Connors as the villain would affect the lives of both Spiderman and Peter, the same way the first two villains did.
It makes sense for the emotional growth aspect. Connors as the villain would affect the lives of both Spiderman and Peter, the same way the first two villains did.
 
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BuckNasty1138
12:21PM on 10/13/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Lizard
If they don't finally bring in Lizard than I will be pissed. They've built Dr. Connors character up from the very begining, giving him more and more screen time each movie. They also have a great actor in Dylan Baker. THey don't even need another villain if they go with Lizard. Hes powerful enough to be a major threat to Spidey, no need to throw anyone else in there.
If they don't finally bring in Lizard than I will be pissed. They've built Dr. Connors character up from the very begining, giving him more and more screen time each movie. They also have a great actor in Dylan Baker. THey don't even need another villain if they go with Lizard. Hes powerful enough to be a major threat to Spidey, no need to throw anyone else in there.
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