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C'mon Hollywood #209 May. 27, 2009
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by: Sturdy

... No Whedon = No Buffy
by Sturdy

I’m one of those guys that believes that Joss Whedon can do no wrong. Whether it be an independent movie or a sing-along-blog, Whedon has the Midas touch with screenplays. I’m also one of those fans that feels we can still do a Buffy/Angel movie, even though the shows have been off the air for a while now. They still have a lot of loose ends to tie up and the fans are still there. However, the recent news that Fran Rubel Kuzui is looking to re-launch the series from scratch is just an abomination on everything that Whedon created.

To be honest, I actually don’t think this will ever happen. Fran and her husband don’t have much else but they do still own the rights to Buffy. However, the challenges and fan outcry over a restart at this point will likely derail any funding Vertigo Entertainment was planning on contributing. It’s one thing to remake Asian films, but it’s a whole other thing to take a franchise as cherished as Buffy and redo it so soon. Also, the fact that they have no idea for the film doesn’t bode well for them. This clearly isn’t about telling a story, this is about milking a franchise that Whedon built to get Kuzui’s name back in the public’s eye.


Okay, I’m still not sure about Dollhouse…

But let me try to suppress the anger and point out the obvious, which is that Whedon would probably be up for writing a continuation of the Buffy/Angel saga. Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz haven’t exactly lit up the big screen since their shows were canceled, so there’s no reason to think they’d refuse the payday opportunity. I don’t know what the relationship between Whedon and the Kuzui’s is like, but I can’t imagine it would get better if the Kuzui’s completely ditch Whedon and do a Buffy movie on their own. The logical thing is for Kuzui to call up Whedon and they make the movie together.


Hilarious

One thing that they have to keep in mind is that the franchise is where it’s at because of Whedon and some of the other talented writers that worked on the show. Without Whedon, you have nothing but a cheesy, early 90’s movie that no one remembers. This isn’t Batman, where you can give it to a talented director and great actor and let them find an already written story to put on the screen. All of the Buffy stories have been either written by Whedon or created with his involvement somehow. Trying to take his idea and start over in a whole new direction is just wrong on so many levels.


Nothing without Whedon.

I seriously hope that Fran doesn’t have any delusions of grandeur regarding her impact on the Buffy universe. Aside from having the foresight to find Whedon’s script, all of the success of the Buffy franchise has been achieved in spite of her, not because of her. Her memory might be short, but let’s not forget that the Buffy movie was a huge flop, even with Luke Perry at the height of his 90210 fame (that was meant to be sarcastic).


C’mon, they gotta end up together

If I seem angry at this, it’s because I am. With all the shitty remakes and TV-to-movies we get these days, I’ve been patiently waiting for Whedon to go back to the Buffyverse and do a Buffy/Angel movie. There are actually storylines that need to be finished up or continued. But if this movie does end up getting made, you can be sure that another Whedon-backed Buffy movie will never see the light of day.

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SnakeEyes
7:53PM on 08/26/2009
Both were brilliant series and I am a huge fan of Whedon and his work. It would be a crying shame to leave him out of the loop if there was any thought to a revamp of the series.

That being said I cant...
Both were brilliant series and I am a huge fan of Whedon and his work. It would be a crying shame to leave him out of the loop if there was any thought to a revamp of the series.

That being said I cant see myself enjoying the series again, but I would enjoy a one off movie tying everything up.

Keep up the good work!
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Buffy/Spike movie? Why not?!:)
Veiriti
6:35AM on 05/28/2009
Yeah, the idea for a Buffy movie without Joss Whedon is LAME!!! I'm a huge fan of the Buffy show, I love the Whedon's tv show with Sarah M Gellar and James Marsters, not the cheesy, stupid movie with Kristy Swanson an...
Yeah, the idea for a Buffy movie without Joss Whedon is LAME!!! I'm a huge fan of the Buffy show, I love the Whedon's tv show with Sarah M Gellar and James Marsters, not the cheesy, stupid movie with Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry!!! I watched this movie after the tv-show and I was strongly disappointed!
And Buffy and Spike gotta end up together!!! I'd love to see a Buffy/Angel crossover movie created by Joss Whedon, but Buffy should end up with Spike! I love Angel, but Spike is a way better than him – one of the best tv characters ever!!! And only Spike is the right man (vampire with a soul) for Buffy, not Angel!
And I'm totally agree with Rehabber – I'd love to see Spike movie as well – created by Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch!! I love Brian Lynch's comic books with Spike!
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rehabber
8:26PM on 05/27/2009
I would not care if a new Buffy was brought on, never cared for SMG. In fact the only member of the cast that needs to be brought back is James Marsters as Spike. IMO, Spike was the greatest character ever in a TV se...
I would not care if a new Buffy was brought on, never cared for SMG. In fact the only member of the cast that needs to be brought back is James Marsters as Spike. IMO, Spike was the greatest character ever in a TV series. Forget the Buffy movie, just make a Spike movie.
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Potter82
6:57PM on 05/27/2009
I used to love Buffy but I sort of grew out of it, it hasn't aged well with me - still, a Buffy without Whedon is unthinkable! Hardcore fans would unaminously revolt and then really, who would you have left as a poten...
I used to love Buffy but I sort of grew out of it, it hasn't aged well with me - still, a Buffy without Whedon is unthinkable! Hardcore fans would unaminously revolt and then really, who would you have left as a potential audience?...
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theshadowalker
2:59PM on 05/27/2009
"I seriously hope that Fran doesn’t have any delusions of grandeur regarding her impact on the Buffy universe. Aside from having the foresight to find Whedon’s script, all of the success of the Buffy franchise has bee...
"I seriously hope that Fran doesn’t have any delusions of grandeur regarding her impact on the Buffy universe. Aside from having the foresight to find Whedon’s script, all of the success of the Buffy franchise has been achieved in spite of her, not because of her."

Well said.
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anomaly7
2:53PM on 05/27/2009
I could do without the Buffy movie, but if they get Whedon and the original cast back then I could muster up some interest. Haven't seen Dollhouse, and unfortunately I don't think Serenity did well enough financially...
I could do without the Buffy movie, but if they get Whedon and the original cast back then I could muster up some interest. Haven't seen Dollhouse, and unfortunately I don't think Serenity did well enough financially to hope for any kind of sequel.
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Firefly Was A Sci-Fi Western
BrokenDreamer
2:03PM on 05/27/2009
"Firefly" actually combined elements from both sci-fi and the western genre. It was definitely not pure sci-fi (in fact, it was probably more a western with space ships). However, sci-fi does not have to have aliens...
"Firefly" actually combined elements from both sci-fi and the western genre. It was definitely not pure sci-fi (in fact, it was probably more a western with space ships). However, sci-fi does not have to have aliens and monsters.

Only Firefly and, to a lesser degree, Dollhouse (which has improved since episode six) interest me, but I respect Joss Whedon as a writer. I agree that a Serenity sequel film would be more appealing to me (A trilogy could rival the Star Wars original trilogy and easily surpass the Star Wars prequels).
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dankfoo
1:32PM on 05/27/2009
buffy = lame as shit
buffy = lame as shit
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how about something else?
cricker
12:07PM on 05/27/2009
I mean how about Whedon makes something that is more than cult status and achiever commercial as well as crtical success? Say what you will but Buffy didnt make that much money, I mean look at the sets and makeup done...
I mean how about Whedon makes something that is more than cult status and achiever commercial as well as crtical success? Say what you will but Buffy didnt make that much money, I mean look at the sets and makeup done for that show it screams low budget. Firefly was fun but it had little science fiction for a sci-fi show (where were all the aliens and monsters) and action really was lacking. His stuff has never made money and there is a reasone he is like a 3rd tier director.
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Well.......
LizZ2727
10:56AM on 05/27/2009
I totally agree that you just can't do Buffy with out Joss. No way. BUT the Season 8 Comics of Buffy and Angel's after the fall comics, Both have great stories and have been furthering the characters along. I mean you...
I totally agree that you just can't do Buffy with out Joss. No way. BUT the Season 8 Comics of Buffy and Angel's after the fall comics, Both have great stories and have been furthering the characters along. I mean you've already got what you need for story :) But personally I would much rather have FIREFLY back on T.V.!!! screw an hour and a half movie sequel i want seasons and seasons and seasons!!!!!!
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Hmmm....
ElderPredator
10:53AM on 05/27/2009
I'd let Buffy get flushed down the toilet if it meant that Joss would concentrate on a "Serenity" sequel.
I'd let Buffy get flushed down the toilet if it meant that Joss would concentrate on a "Serenity" sequel.
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Balboa6
10:38AM on 05/27/2009
Both Buffy and Angel were such epic, incredible shows and there is so much more that could be done with all of the characters, it just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for them to just reboot it. Fans--those of us...
Both Buffy and Angel were such epic, incredible shows and there is so much more that could be done with all of the characters, it just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for them to just reboot it. Fans--those of us who actually love the series and have been there--WANT a movie (if not a film franchise) with those characters. There is simply no reason at all to reboot it and it's hard to believe they're going to destroy it like this.
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I say...
Crimson_Kahuna
10:24AM on 05/27/2009
... reboot it Dark Knight/Star Trek style with a younger, sexier actress (Hayden Panettiere?).

The movie was cheesy, but I always liked it (and it had Paul Rubins). As for the TV show, I could never ...
... reboot it Dark Knight/Star Trek style with a younger, sexier actress (Hayden Panettiere?).

The movie was cheesy, but I always liked it (and it had Paul Rubins). As for the TV show, I could never get into it, it never seemed particulary special. I know a lot of people do love it, but that just makes it popular, not a mark of quality.

Lastly, Gellar hasn't been attractive since Cruel Intentions, so definately dump her.
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Bronco Fan
9:46AM on 05/27/2009
Kuzui probably got all excited because of Twilight and thinks vampires=goldmine. I would never watch a Buffy reboot. Bring on Serenity II: The Search for Wash!
Kuzui probably got all excited because of Twilight and thinks vampires=goldmine. I would never watch a Buffy reboot. Bring on Serenity II: The Search for Wash!
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snoopmish
9:35AM on 05/27/2009
Agree with everything you just said! This is the stupidest idea. I am a HUGE Buffy fan and I would have 0 interest in seeing this film.
Agree with everything you just said! This is the stupidest idea. I am a HUGE Buffy fan and I would have 0 interest in seeing this film.
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Vnqshr
9:05AM on 05/27/2009
I completely agree with everything in this article. Except that I now really like Dollhouse. I quite liked it from the start, but when it hit it's stride at episode 6, and especially in the final 2 episodes with Alan ...
I completely agree with everything in this article. Except that I now really like Dollhouse. I quite liked it from the start, but when it hit it's stride at episode 6, and especially in the final 2 episodes with Alan Tudyk, Dollhouse was exceptional television, and something very different, and very Joss.

Definitely agree that they should put money into a sequel to Serenity (or better yet, a mini-series follow on to Firefly), or AT LEAST get Joss to make a movie based in HIS Buffy universe.

And dillisasexyman, you're welcome to your opinion, but "Fuck Joss Whedon" is slightly harsh, regardless of taste, it's not like he's Uwe Boll or something.
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bonoferox
8:57AM on 05/27/2009
Agreed on a Firefly sequel being frist priority. Loose ends were mended, but so muchmore to explore in that verse.
Agreed on a Firefly sequel being frist priority. Loose ends were mended, but so muchmore to explore in that verse.
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dillisasexyman
8:27AM on 05/27/2009
Fuck Joss Whedon. He's overrated.
Fuck Joss Whedon. He's overrated.
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CJN
8:14AM on 05/27/2009

Agree!

Agree!
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miguel_montes
7:47AM on 05/27/2009
Sorry, but the Browncoat in me is saying: scrap those Buffy ideas and get JW to make a "Firefly" sequel.
Sorry, but the Browncoat in me is saying: scrap those Buffy ideas and get JW to make a "Firefly" sequel.
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