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A plea from a Schmoe: seeing Cloud Atlas is the most important thing you can do for the future of cinema

Oct. 25, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

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The future of cinema needs you, and CLOUD ATLAS could very possibly be the key. Now that's a bold statement to make, I know.  But I have reason to say it, reason I hope to share with you now.

Every once in a while, a very particular kind of chioce becomes possible in our lives.  It's the sort of choice that ripples out, like a Butterfly Effect, and changes our future path in ways both expected and utterly unforseeable.  It's the sort of choice that, in a way, CLOUD ATLAS is all about.  I'm sure by now you're well familiar with the line spoken by Susan Sarandon's character of Ursula that goes "We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness we birth our future."  Well, in this case, it holds a highly meta meaning beyond its context in the film - you have the choice this weekend to see CLOUD ATLAS or to not see CLOUD ATLAS, and the choice you make might just help to birth both your future and the future of mainstream cinema itself. 

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Going by some of the comments I've seen on this site, the film isn't everyone's cup of tea.  And that's okay.  I may have been vocal ever since I saw it about how much I loved it, about how deeply it rocked me and stunned me and inspired me, but this is about something bigger than personal taste.  This is about what you're willing to do for the sake of helping rewrite the future of studio-funded filmmaking.  This is about, depending on how you like at it, investment and sacrifice.  Because by paying to see the film in theaters - by not ripping it from the web or waiting until Blu-ray/DVD or skipping it altogether - you're making a statement.  You're speaking up in the only way the studios and producers in Hollywood can really comprehend: with your money.  We (and Terry Gilliam especially) have lost so many films over the years because the financial commitment was deemed too risky in comparison to the expected financial return.  Remember when AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS lost it all just as everything was coming together? A $150 million budget, a big name star, a passionate director, months of creature design - and it all fell away as Universal decided that it couldn't afford to support a hard R monster movie with a bleak ending and no romantic sub-plot.  I'm of course not saying that seeing CLOUD ATLAS will suddenly resuscitate AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS, but I am saying that by seeing CLOUD ATLAS you may very well manage to give a future to many films like it yet to come.  

CLOUD ATLAS was made for about $100 million.  Yes, $20 million of that generously came from Warner Bros, but the majority of it was raised from various independent sources.  So while the film doesn't bear the same massive price tag as did something like JOHN CARTER, the eyes of the industry are going to be no less upon it.  CLOUD ATLAS is, in comparison to what came before, a massive experiment in storytelling structure.  It is a fervent attempt to do something new and exciting and different, and while its success may certainly inspire some filmmakers to try new things with their own work the main end of its success could in theory be that we see a new age dawn where studios are more brave with their funding choices.  More convinced that their chances will be acknowledged, and rewarded by the moviegoing public.  The money you pay for a ticket to see this film may only be a single drop in a limitless ocean of life and profit and art.  But as one character says in a triumphant turnaround at one point during the fiilm: “what is an ocean but a multitude of drops?”

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At one point in the film, Tom Hanks speaks these words: "Yesterday, my life was headed in one direction.  Today, it is headed in another... I feel like something important has happened to me."  That's how I felt after seeing CLOUD ATLAS.  Now I'm not promising you'll feel the same way if and when you see it.  I'm not promising you'll love the film, or even merely like it.  But give it a chance, both for the sake of challenging your own expectations and for the sake of having a hand in future films to come.  We are more and more at a tipping point as big-budget action flicks and rom-coms rule the multiplex, and it's up to you to dictate the kind of filmmaking you want to see.  There's nothing wrong with enjoying those movies, and no one is going to stop you if you do.  But there are other kinds of films too, ones like CLOUD ATLAS that lie in an ever-shrinking grey area between indie experimentation and broad appeal and have to struggle harder and harder for the chance to be seen.  To be felt.  To be loathed, shared, loved, and challenged.  It's up to us to give them their fair share and chance in the sun, because if we don't - who will? 

So that's what I have to say.  Thanks for reading, and thanks for loving movies.  And if you can, go see CLOUD ATLAS this weekend.  Not necessarily because it's good, but because you should.

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3:41PM on 10/28/2012

Guess the future of cinema is doomed

Cloud Atlas just bombed.
Cloud Atlas just bombed.
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11:56AM on 10/26/2012

I understand your plea

I empathize with the writer's plea. I hope plenty of people head to the theater to watch Cloud Atlas. That empathy is born from my experience as a fan of Aronofsky's The Fountain. I walked away from that movie utterly blown away, but it ultimately failed in the box office. And yet Aronofsky was able to come back and make Black Swan, which was a commercial and critical success. There are plenty of solid scifi films that are successful and have created open tickets for of their ilk--Children of
I empathize with the writer's plea. I hope plenty of people head to the theater to watch Cloud Atlas. That empathy is born from my experience as a fan of Aronofsky's The Fountain. I walked away from that movie utterly blown away, but it ultimately failed in the box office. And yet Aronofsky was able to come back and make Black Swan, which was a commercial and critical success. There are plenty of solid scifi films that are successful and have created open tickets for of their ilk--Children of Men, District 9, Inception, Looper--so the ultimate success of Cloud Atlas will not deter anyone from moving forward on similarly ambitious projects. In fact, as I believe is evident in the Strikeback section below, hopeless pleas for theater attendance and assurances of the film's greatness and ingenuity only turn people off. They will begin to wonder if you are overcompensating, or become afraid that tenacious insistence will lead to a letdown and so avoid the film. It happened to me with Napoleon Dynamite. I had friends that saw it several times in theaters and never let me forget how funny they thought it was. So rather than being joyously surprised by the witty, ironic humor I was instead bored and frustrated that it didn't meet expectation. If a movie is truly great and worthwhile, if its mechanics and storytelling are working, than it will reflect in the box office, I promise.
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11:40AM on 10/26/2012

I understand your plea

I empathize with the writer's plea. I hope plenty of people head to the theater to watch Cloud Atlas. That empathy is born from my experience as a fan of Aronofsky's The Fountain. I walked away from that movie utterly blown away, but it ultimately failed in the box office. And yet Aronofsky was able to come back and make Black Swan, which was a commercial and critical success. There are plenty of solid scifi films that are successful and have created open tickets for of their ilk--Children of
I empathize with the writer's plea. I hope plenty of people head to the theater to watch Cloud Atlas. That empathy is born from my experience as a fan of Aronofsky's The Fountain. I walked away from that movie utterly blown away, but it ultimately failed in the box office. And yet Aronofsky was able to come back and make Black Swan, which was a commercial and critical success. There are plenty of solid scifi films that are successful and have created open tickets for of their ilk--Children of Men, District 9, Inception, Looper--so the ultimate success of Cloud Atlas will not deter anyone from moving forward on similarly ambitious projects. In fact, as I believe is evident in the Strikeback section below, hopeless pleas for theater attendance and assurances of the film's greatness and ingenuity only turn people off. They will begin to wonder if you are overcompensating, or become afraid that tenacious insistence will lead to a letdown and so avoid the film. It happened to me with Napoleon Dynamite. I had friends that saw it several times in theaters and never let me forget how funny they thought it was. So rather than being joyously surprised by the witty, ironic humor I was instead bored and frustrated that it didn't meet expectation. If a movie is truly great and worthwhile, if its mechanics and storytelling are working, than it will reflect in the box office, I promise.
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11:22AM on 10/26/2012

People cant be trusted to act intelligent

Look, I want cloud atlas to be a sucsess. Even if the movie is bad I want it to be a succsess because that would show the studio exec in Hollywood that "YES! Sometimes uintelligent and smart/adult movies can be succsessful." It doesn't always have to be singing CGI-bunnies or juvenile superhero movies. However, most people (at least movie-going people) are idiots and they WANT to see juvenile superhero movies (with 120 min of Hulk smash) and not something that forces them to think. Heck,
Look, I want cloud atlas to be a sucsess. Even if the movie is bad I want it to be a succsess because that would show the studio exec in Hollywood that "YES! Sometimes uintelligent and smart/adult movies can be succsessful." It doesn't always have to be singing CGI-bunnies or juvenile superhero movies. However, most people (at least movie-going people) are idiots and they WANT to see juvenile superhero movies (with 120 min of Hulk smash) and not something that forces them to think. Heck, they'll even shy away from a GOOD and adult superhero movies (Dredd, anyone?) proving to the studios in L.A. that the only thing that works is pg-13 juvenile crap like Transformers and Twilight. We - the movie-going audience - have taught them that.
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8:24AM on 10/26/2012

Sorry, but you skipped past problem #1: Barely realizing this movie exists...

Somehow you've lost touch with how this movie is marketed. Take your statement "I'm sure by now you're well familiar with the line spoken by Susan Sarandon's character of Ursula that goes "We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness we birth our future." "

I have no idea what you're talking about. I see plenty of TV so my eyes and ears are open to the marketing of every movie that comes along. But this one has about a ZERO budget on marketing. If it
Somehow you've lost touch with how this movie is marketed. Take your statement "I'm sure by now you're well familiar with the line spoken by Susan Sarandon's character of Ursula that goes "We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness we birth our future." "

I have no idea what you're talking about. I see plenty of TV so my eyes and ears are open to the marketing of every movie that comes along. But this one has about a ZERO budget on marketing. If it weren't for JoBlo's site covering it, I'd not even know this movie was out there.
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3:57AM on 10/26/2012
Im sorry, but the Wachowskis are not hurting when it comes to getting their movies made. The matrix trilogy made a bajillion dollars, Im sure they'll be able to ride that success for the rest of their carreer. Terry Gilliam hasnt had any crazy blockbuster hits like that, his movies are mostly cult hits, so toe compare the two (or three I suppose) is a little inacurate in my opinion. Then there is the fact that The wachowskis are marginally taleneted at best. The matrix was amazing sure, but
Im sorry, but the Wachowskis are not hurting when it comes to getting their movies made. The matrix trilogy made a bajillion dollars, Im sure they'll be able to ride that success for the rest of their carreer. Terry Gilliam hasnt had any crazy blockbuster hits like that, his movies are mostly cult hits, so toe compare the two (or three I suppose) is a little inacurate in my opinion. Then there is the fact that The wachowskis are marginally taleneted at best. The matrix was amazing sure, but it was someone elses story. They proved with the two sequels that they arent the amazing visionaries everyone seems to take them for. And on top of that, the movie doesnt look that interesting. Really, what has the trailer showed everyone thats got them all nerd bonered up other than some great looking visuals, which is basically the one thing the wachowskis have going for them. I guess people should be more excited about the art department they have working for them. This movie is not the hope for all future cinema, no more than Suckerpunch was.
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12:52AM on 10/26/2012

I agree!

See this film or fuck yourself silly.
Or both.
See this film or fuck yourself silly.
Or both.
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12:51AM on 10/26/2012

I agree!

See this film or fuck yourself silly.
Or both.
See this film or fuck yourself silly.
Or both.
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8:53PM on 10/25/2012
I'm seeing this anyway, but judging from reviews, this is overhyped. With less than 70% on RT going for this film, and mixed reviews from the community, this doesn't seem like the major piece of cinema it should be. I get that it goes out on a limb to be different, creative, and original, but if that's the case, this should be movie of the year type stuff. Judging from general consensus, it's not. I'll reserve judgment till after I've seen it, but I really think the film. I also think that, to
I'm seeing this anyway, but judging from reviews, this is overhyped. With less than 70% on RT going for this film, and mixed reviews from the community, this doesn't seem like the major piece of cinema it should be. I get that it goes out on a limb to be different, creative, and original, but if that's the case, this should be movie of the year type stuff. Judging from general consensus, it's not. I'll reserve judgment till after I've seen it, but I really think the film. I also think that, to expect that a majority of people will feel the same way about this film is reaching. Cloud Atlas isn't really accessible by the general public, or so the marketing leads me to believe. It doesn't have a blockbuster quality the general audience really goes for, it's run time is huge, and the marketing is kind of all over, showing a film that goes all over the place. There are films that come along that reinstate our love and support of Hollywood and filmmaking. I'm honestly not sure this is it.
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6:55PM on 10/25/2012

Is this supposed to be...

some sort of trolling article? I'll reserve my judgement until I see the movie, but i have lost faith in the movie going public and the execs that push formulas. I do plan to watch it, but this rave about seeing it and changing the fate of cinema bullshit just annoyed me. Dude, we have shit like 3 step up movie and 5 Scary Movies, yet only one Blade Runner. I think that people who went to see Speed Racer and hated it watch it again, because i guarantee they will love it, and that's the problem
some sort of trolling article? I'll reserve my judgement until I see the movie, but i have lost faith in the movie going public and the execs that push formulas. I do plan to watch it, but this rave about seeing it and changing the fate of cinema bullshit just annoyed me. Dude, we have shit like 3 step up movie and 5 Scary Movies, yet only one Blade Runner. I think that people who went to see Speed Racer and hated it watch it again, because i guarantee they will love it, and that's the problem with the movie going public today, they buy into hype and have too high expectations, when they go see a movie they get disappointed and bash the flick. Rule of thumb, expect shit every time and you'll be surprised almost every time. If we keep buying hype we'll always be disappointed.
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5:55PM on 10/25/2012
what about Dark Knight? that movie was an argument that dark, gritty dramas can be big budget with big returns.

but im sure Could Atlas is much different, and ill definitely be seeing this movie for both my interest and what you have written.

working in the industry myself, and im sure anyone else who does, will know that greenlighting ideas is entirely based on previous genre performance, and Cloud Atlas will be an example for measurement going forward. if Cloud grosses north of 100mm,
what about Dark Knight? that movie was an argument that dark, gritty dramas can be big budget with big returns.

but im sure Could Atlas is much different, and ill definitely be seeing this movie for both my interest and what you have written.

working in the industry myself, and im sure anyone else who does, will know that greenlighting ideas is entirely based on previous genre performance, and Cloud Atlas will be an example for measurement going forward. if Cloud grosses north of 100mm, there will probably another film like it. if it does 200mm, you bet it there will be.

i also have a really strong feeling this movie will gross 2-3x the domestic amount overseas, so that's always a reassuring argument for greenlighting a project.
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5:14PM on 10/25/2012
I'm sorry but where was this article for The Tree of Life? Cloud Atlas looks good but Tree of Life pushed boundaries in story telling AND filmmaking.
I'm sorry but where was this article for The Tree of Life? Cloud Atlas looks good but Tree of Life pushed boundaries in story telling AND filmmaking.
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5:03PM on 10/25/2012
Whether the movie is successful or bombs at the box office, it really makes not much difference in our lives. There's always a gamble in every movie release, and it takes people who err frequently to take the movie medium to a different level. It always has. The Wachowskis have sufficient hits under their belt to be able to tackle this kind of risky project, but as we can remember not all of their risk taking paid off. Speed Racer comes to mind. Still, hiring them to do this movie is about as
Whether the movie is successful or bombs at the box office, it really makes not much difference in our lives. There's always a gamble in every movie release, and it takes people who err frequently to take the movie medium to a different level. It always has. The Wachowskis have sufficient hits under their belt to be able to tackle this kind of risky project, but as we can remember not all of their risk taking paid off. Speed Racer comes to mind. Still, hiring them to do this movie is about as safe as making an Avengers movie with a cult celebrity director. People will come for Tom Hanks, Halle Berry, the stunning imagery they see in the trailers, or because they're fans of The Matrix, and for finding out why the Asian girl looks so eerie yet so damn hot. Soon after, whether this movie will be significant to the whole movie industry or it just fluff away, we'll go on with our daily lives waiting for some other 'groundbreaking' movie to be discussed on the internet or just go back to downloading older movies. Same old, same old.
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4:32PM on 10/25/2012

Go me!

Double Post. Sorry. I'm a moron.
Double Post. Sorry. I'm a moron.
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3:55PM on 10/25/2012

Don't see a film for the sake of it.

If you like the look of it, have read the book, then you'll go see it. I can't wait for this movie to come out in the UK. I must though. That said I wouldn't go and watch a 3 hour movie that didn't appeal to me just for the sake of film.
If you like the look of it, have read the book, then you'll go see it. I can't wait for this movie to come out in the UK. I must though. That said I wouldn't go and watch a 3 hour movie that didn't appeal to me just for the sake of film.
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3:23PM on 10/25/2012

It's comendable when people who work at movie sites are passionate about film, but...

I've yet to see any trailers, commercial spots, screen shots, press kits or even interviews that make Cloud Atlas look like anything but a bloated mess. Nothing about this movie seems interesting and articles as impassioned only hurt this film in my eyes because, if I spend the time and money to check it out and if it isn't "the greatest thing committed to the silver screen" then it's a disappoint crushed under the weight of it's own hype. Like many people I was amazed by how un-fun and heavy
I've yet to see any trailers, commercial spots, screen shots, press kits or even interviews that make Cloud Atlas look like anything but a bloated mess. Nothing about this movie seems interesting and articles as impassioned only hurt this film in my eyes because, if I spend the time and money to check it out and if it isn't "the greatest thing committed to the silver screen" then it's a disappoint crushed under the weight of it's own hype. Like many people I was amazed by how un-fun and heavy handed the Matrix sequels were, I gave Speed Racer a shot and enjoyed it during the first viewing but it really doesn't hold up in a post 2008 world. I was there at midnight for Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim, I sang the praises of Dredd; films I thought (and still think) were important for film. Everyone of those movies had elements that made it impossible to wait for opening day and they delivered, this thing just looks like something Jay Sherman would've reviewed on The Critic. Another sentiment that other schmoes have echoed in this comment section is that even if this is a hit it doesn't mean that will bode well for film, Hollywood will just have a new gimmick to exploit. The thought of living in a world dominated by non linear, big budget films that assume they're deep but are really just pretentious sickens me.
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3:23PM on 10/25/2012

Sorry,

but I just don't think it looks good.
but I just don't think it looks good.
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3:17PM on 10/25/2012

Will be nice to be blown away

Come to think of it... I haven't seen a movie I've really been taken away with in a long time. When people ask me my favourite movie, I tend to still say "Time Bandits." Because it was like a dream - I saw things that I never expected and had never imagined. Things that I didn't see coming from a mile away, like I do with almost every rom-com and action movie. I hope Cloud Atlas gives me a new movie to list in my favourites, and takes me once again to places I've never been.
Come to think of it... I haven't seen a movie I've really been taken away with in a long time. When people ask me my favourite movie, I tend to still say "Time Bandits." Because it was like a dream - I saw things that I never expected and had never imagined. Things that I didn't see coming from a mile away, like I do with almost every rom-com and action movie. I hope Cloud Atlas gives me a new movie to list in my favourites, and takes me once again to places I've never been.
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3:19PM on 10/25/2012
thumb up for saying Time Bandits is your favorite film.
thumb up for saying Time Bandits is your favorite film.
3:14PM on 10/25/2012

Ok, I'm sold

Nice to hear that a movie had such a profound effect on you, and that you're willing to take the time to let us know about this feeling. I, too, have been bemoaning the lack of intelligent, original films. I saw The Master hoping to be challenged and made to think, but I was just bored and felt nothing and learned nothing. I commend the filmmakers of Cloud Atlas for taking chances and creating something that seems like it's going to be intelligent and dazzling and entertaining all at once. I
Nice to hear that a movie had such a profound effect on you, and that you're willing to take the time to let us know about this feeling. I, too, have been bemoaning the lack of intelligent, original films. I saw The Master hoping to be challenged and made to think, but I was just bored and felt nothing and learned nothing. I commend the filmmakers of Cloud Atlas for taking chances and creating something that seems like it's going to be intelligent and dazzling and entertaining all at once. I don't go to movies in theatres much anymore. But I like your argument, and I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
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3:14PM on 10/25/2012
I think I remember a similar plead getting made for Southland Tales. Lesson learned, yo.
I think I remember a similar plead getting made for Southland Tales. Lesson learned, yo.
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3:05PM on 10/25/2012

AMEN

We need movies like this because it'll show hollywood creative movies that are not remakes and shit can be made. Look at what district 9 did, and Drive, those films were not hollywood at all but were picked up by hollywood studios and did so amazing. If you can stand behind this film thats good :) and I agree with everything you said I know its going to be amazing
We need movies like this because it'll show hollywood creative movies that are not remakes and shit can be made. Look at what district 9 did, and Drive, those films were not hollywood at all but were picked up by hollywood studios and did so amazing. If you can stand behind this film thats good :) and I agree with everything you said I know its going to be amazing
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2:58PM on 10/25/2012
I'll be damned if I'm ever going to watch a movie in a theater ever again. The once or twice I go a year is usually marred by cell phones going off and people talking and laughing through the whole film.
I will probably buy it on DVD and support it that way.
I'll be damned if I'm ever going to watch a movie in a theater ever again. The once or twice I go a year is usually marred by cell phones going off and people talking and laughing through the whole film.
I will probably buy it on DVD and support it that way.
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2:49PM on 10/25/2012

Don't see a film for the sake of it.

If you like the look of it, have read the book, then you'll go see it. I can't wait for this movie to come out in the UK. I must though. That said I wouldn't go and watch a 3 hour movie that didn't appeal to me just for the sake of film.
If you like the look of it, have read the book, then you'll go see it. I can't wait for this movie to come out in the UK. I must though. That said I wouldn't go and watch a 3 hour movie that didn't appeal to me just for the sake of film.
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9:55PM on 10/25/2012
That is the only reason to go see a movie. It's an experience. The only question is, do you want the experience that it offers.
That is the only reason to go see a movie. It's an experience. The only question is, do you want the experience that it offers.
2:28PM on 10/25/2012

Was on the fence

I was in the fence, well more on the side of not watching, but not opposed to not. Now reading this i probably will give it a chance since i usually go watch movies during the week.
I was in the fence, well more on the side of not watching, but not opposed to not. Now reading this i probably will give it a chance since i usually go watch movies during the week.
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2:10PM on 10/25/2012

I'll pass

If the run time weren't so long I'd be more interested in seeing it in the theater. If I'm sitting for that long I'd rather drink my own drink, eat my own delicious food, and get up to take a piss and know I'm not missing anything. If I could get this through VOD, Ill watch it this weekend from the comfort of my home. I go to films to enjoy myself, not for charity.
If the run time weren't so long I'd be more interested in seeing it in the theater. If I'm sitting for that long I'd rather drink my own drink, eat my own delicious food, and get up to take a piss and know I'm not missing anything. If I could get this through VOD, Ill watch it this weekend from the comfort of my home. I go to films to enjoy myself, not for charity.
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1:32PM on 10/25/2012

stop it

bad SCHMOE, bad. hollyweird doesn't deserve my money for artistic self indulgent crap like this, and you lessen us all for shamelessly begging for it for them..
bad SCHMOE, bad. hollyweird doesn't deserve my money for artistic self indulgent crap like this, and you lessen us all for shamelessly begging for it for them..
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12:30PM on 10/25/2012
Cellphones need to have a physically enforced ban in theaters before I visit one ever again. I will never pay $8 again just to have a handful of self-absorbed shit holes flash their god damned cellphones every three minutes. I am viscerally fed up with it. I haven't been to the theater since Summer 2011, and nothing but a physically enforced ban on cellphones can lure me back.
Cellphones need to have a physically enforced ban in theaters before I visit one ever again. I will never pay $8 again just to have a handful of self-absorbed shit holes flash their god damned cellphones every three minutes. I am viscerally fed up with it. I haven't been to the theater since Summer 2011, and nothing but a physically enforced ban on cellphones can lure me back.
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9:00PM on 10/25/2012
Wait, where are you that it costs $8 a ticket? I thought we were cheap where I am and it's $9.50.
Wait, where are you that it costs $8 a ticket? I thought we were cheap where I am and it's $9.50.
12:28PM on 10/25/2012
Your passion about this topic is very refreshing and your conclusion noble.

But it won't work like that. It just won't. Remember when the Matrix, which was groundbreaking and unique in its own right made a megaton of cash? Did we get risky projects or a stream of poorly made ripoffs that only remembered the slow motion and "bullet time" effects? Even if the movie makes half as much as you would like it to, the studios will see that Big Name Stars that have been out of the spotlight
Your passion about this topic is very refreshing and your conclusion noble.

But it won't work like that. It just won't. Remember when the Matrix, which was groundbreaking and unique in its own right made a megaton of cash? Did we get risky projects or a stream of poorly made ripoffs that only remembered the slow motion and "bullet time" effects? Even if the movie makes half as much as you would like it to, the studios will see that Big Name Stars that have been out of the spotlight lately+Sci Fi epic= the ability to print money for yourself. Soon we'll be seeing Meg Ryan and Al Pacino in a big budget remake of "The Time Machine".

On another note, what if it sucks? Ignoring the critics (which are like weathermen) and your opinion, what happens if we go see this on blind faith and it sucks? Instead of helping the future, we could be damning it. We could be dumping money into a big budget epic with an overly complex and heavy handed plot that is nothing more than an amalgamation of various, well known stories with impressive visual effects to cover it up. I don't trust the Wachowskis enough anymore to just go for the sake of going. I'm on the fence, mind you, but since my local theatre wasn't showing seven psychopaths, I may just sit this out in spite.

Besides, we came out for "Avengers", that oughta do enough good!
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12:22PM on 10/25/2012
I agree, that we do decide our future by spending money on certain things. If Cloud Atlas gets a lot of money, it will be a message. Everything comes down to money. Which is why I am upset all the clay animated films that are so good, are hardly getting anything. So now they might stop doing that. Either way, I am so down to see this.
I agree, that we do decide our future by spending money on certain things. If Cloud Atlas gets a lot of money, it will be a message. Everything comes down to money. Which is why I am upset all the clay animated films that are so good, are hardly getting anything. So now they might stop doing that. Either way, I am so down to see this.
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11:43AM on 10/25/2012

This article is pretty sad

I love your articles but this is a sad attempt... pass
I love your articles but this is a sad attempt... pass
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11:36AM on 10/25/2012

That settles it...

I've been very intrigued by this film and have read reviews both good and bad. I have been on the fence, but I was going to talk my wife into watching this with me. This post settled it for me:
I'lLL SIT THIS ONE OUT...
I appreciate the writer's enthusiasm, and totally see their point, however I strongly disagree and think the writer here is doing waaaayyyy too much...
Worchawkskis (SP) and Tom Hanks will continue to be able to do whatever they please irregardless of the success or failure
I've been very intrigued by this film and have read reviews both good and bad. I have been on the fence, but I was going to talk my wife into watching this with me. This post settled it for me:
I'lLL SIT THIS ONE OUT...
I appreciate the writer's enthusiasm, and totally see their point, however I strongly disagree and think the writer here is doing waaaayyyy too much...
Worchawkskis (SP) and Tom Hanks will continue to be able to do whatever they please irregardless of the success or failure of this film....
And 'most important' / 'future of film', I think "I like this film and hope you will too" would suffice...
There are probably two dozen indies and documentaries out right now that are for more in need of "support" than a major studio release featuring Forrest Gump and the makers of The Matrix Trilogy...
I'll wait for Netflix and go see what's playing at my local indie theater this Friday...
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10:27AM on 10/25/2012
I for one will do my part. The best I could hope for out of this is just a little hope for the future, that Hollywood might come along and say there is a place for thinking in movies. That's about it. But you know what? Goddamn it it's worth it!
I for one will do my part. The best I could hope for out of this is just a little hope for the future, that Hollywood might come along and say there is a place for thinking in movies. That's about it. But you know what? Goddamn it it's worth it!
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10:16AM on 10/25/2012

I'll do my part but...

not sure what a difference it'll make. All of us Schmoes turned up for the fantastic, modest budgeted "Dredd" and that still bombed.
not sure what a difference it'll make. All of us Schmoes turned up for the fantastic, modest budgeted "Dredd" and that still bombed.
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10:14AM on 10/25/2012

IF Cloud Atlas is a financial/commercial success...

would that REALLY encourage studios to take some risks on films, or just encourage a bunch of Cloud Atlas rip-offs? i guess i'm a little jaded.
would that REALLY encourage studios to take some risks on films, or just encourage a bunch of Cloud Atlas rip-offs? i guess i'm a little jaded.
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9:58AM on 10/25/2012
I agree with you. I really am so excited to see this. Not a lot of people know that The Wachowskis made Bound before the Matrix; a small film that was unique and independently great. I will be seeing this opening day. Nice call on this. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this movie plea thing on more movies to come.
I agree with you. I really am so excited to see this. Not a lot of people know that The Wachowskis made Bound before the Matrix; a small film that was unique and independently great. I will be seeing this opening day. Nice call on this. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this movie plea thing on more movies to come.
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9:53AM on 10/25/2012
Nice - I really want to see this! Only 4 months away for some of us...
Nice - I really want to see this! Only 4 months away for some of us...
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9:50AM on 10/25/2012

Nope

This is just wrong. Putting Terry Gilliam in the same pool with the Wachowski's is pretty silly. Terry Gilliam has made critically acclaimed indie movies for most of his life. The Wachowski's have made big budget garbage that everyone forgets as soon as they leave the theater. Look, they made the Matrix. Probably the only good movie in their careers. They should leave creativity to people who know what they are doing like Terry Gilliam. If this movie does bad, it's not going to kill the
This is just wrong. Putting Terry Gilliam in the same pool with the Wachowski's is pretty silly. Terry Gilliam has made critically acclaimed indie movies for most of his life. The Wachowski's have made big budget garbage that everyone forgets as soon as they leave the theater. Look, they made the Matrix. Probably the only good movie in their careers. They should leave creativity to people who know what they are doing like Terry Gilliam. If this movie does bad, it's not going to kill the future of cinema. It will probably help not fun over rated hacks.
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10:17AM on 10/25/2012
You never saw Bound, did you? Eh, not a masterpiece, but not a bad movie in my mind.
You never saw Bound, did you? Eh, not a masterpiece, but not a bad movie in my mind.
11:57AM on 10/25/2012
From what I understand Terry Gilliam has rarely set out to make "critically acclaimed indie movies." He often seeks studio support, is unable to get it due to their skittishness at his vision, and then has to turn to the sort of private funding that defines his films as "indie."

Imagine a world where there was faith in people like Terry Gilliam and the work they did from the people with the money. Imagine a world where Terry Gilliam didn't have to fight with all his might to get anything
From what I understand Terry Gilliam has rarely set out to make "critically acclaimed indie movies." He often seeks studio support, is unable to get it due to their skittishness at his vision, and then has to turn to the sort of private funding that defines his films as "indie."

Imagine a world where there was faith in people like Terry Gilliam and the work they did from the people with the money. Imagine a world where Terry Gilliam didn't have to fight with all his might to get anything made. I'd like to live in a world like that. Not that seeing CLOUD ATLAS is the only way to do it, but I do believe it will help.

And with all due respect, whether what the Wachowskis have made has been "big budget garbage" or not, part of my point is that they're attempting something very different with CLOUD ATLAS. SPEED RACER (as much as I loved it), this is not. THE MATRIX RELOADED/REVOLUTIONS, this is not. This is something new, not just for them but for many filmmakers. Thankfully they made enough influential work in the past that they were able to be in a position to bring along folks like Hanks and Berry and Weaving, actors and actresses whose performances made what they were attempting work in ways it might not have otherwise. And that's something an independent filmmaker with $100,000 on a first time feature, no matter how incredible their ideas and methods are, might not be able to get. We need that middle ground of pre-established people who are allowed to play with form and style and theme and performance and method.

But I guess this also comes down to one's opinion about the Wachowskis, and since I don't view them as over-rated hacks...
9:46AM on 10/25/2012

Will do

I really hope this pays off. I wanted to see this movie before, but all this hype on the film fan circuit is building it up. I will be seeing it, for all those reasons youve expressed, and because it looks good from this stand point, i just hope it delivers.
I really hope this pays off. I wanted to see this movie before, but all this hype on the film fan circuit is building it up. I will be seeing it, for all those reasons youve expressed, and because it looks good from this stand point, i just hope it delivers.
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9:52AM on 10/25/2012
I'm in Europe right now. it doesnt open here until after i leave and head back to the states. but when that happens, it wount bee playing in the states anymore. Fortunately. Its got a special showing for 2 nights only in Amsterdam the weekend i plan to visit that city. SCORE!!!
I'm in Europe right now. it doesnt open here until after i leave and head back to the states. but when that happens, it wount bee playing in the states anymore. Fortunately. Its got a special showing for 2 nights only in Amsterdam the weekend i plan to visit that city. SCORE!!!
8:51AM on 10/25/2012

I feel exactly the same way

I'll be seeing it opening day. IMAX.
I'll be seeing it opening day. IMAX.
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8:49AM on 10/25/2012
You may be too enthusiastic and I may be too jaded and cynical, but if this film made huge bank, the best we could hope for using Hollywood's logic is a sequel and the Wachowskis getting a 300 million dollar budget for their next dream project which knowing our luck would be a live action Grape Ape movie.

...also, a lot of copycat films featuring time travel because studio execs didn't get the actual premise.
You may be too enthusiastic and I may be too jaded and cynical, but if this film made huge bank, the best we could hope for using Hollywood's logic is a sequel and the Wachowskis getting a 300 million dollar budget for their next dream project which knowing our luck would be a live action Grape Ape movie.

...also, a lot of copycat films featuring time travel because studio execs didn't get the actual premise.
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8:52AM on 10/25/2012
Bingo!
Bingo!
8:47AM on 10/25/2012
I get what you are saying. I just don't think its true. I feel like when the studio system sees something make money they don't go and invest in the next bit of quality, but rather something they can sell you as the next bit of quality. They make something like Green Lantern after The Dark Knight's success. They making something they think is on par and then wonder why it doesn't perform as well.

I'm not really excited for Cloud Atlas, but I'll see it anyway because I have a weird
I get what you are saying. I just don't think its true. I feel like when the studio system sees something make money they don't go and invest in the next bit of quality, but rather something they can sell you as the next bit of quality. They make something like Green Lantern after The Dark Knight's success. They making something they think is on par and then wonder why it doesn't perform as well.

I'm not really excited for Cloud Atlas, but I'll see it anyway because I have a weird compulsion to the movies that will matter during end of the year conversations
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8:39AM on 10/25/2012
I agree that this should be a movie that should be seen, BUT why was it not released this summer and is being released at the end of Oct. I understand Oscar contention, but with a budget of $100 mil, 2:45 runtime and an Oct. release date (the wknd before halloween when most costume parties are happening and you're in the meat of f-ball season), you're sort of asking for a disappointment box office-wise.
I agree that this should be a movie that should be seen, BUT why was it not released this summer and is being released at the end of Oct. I understand Oscar contention, but with a budget of $100 mil, 2:45 runtime and an Oct. release date (the wknd before halloween when most costume parties are happening and you're in the meat of f-ball season), you're sort of asking for a disappointment box office-wise.
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12:31PM on 10/25/2012
Add onto that the World Series.
Add onto that the World Series.
8:35AM on 10/25/2012
Would love to help but it's not out here in the UK till Feb :(
Will defo check it out then - was sold when I saw the trailer - and I know a lot of my friends are eager to see it. I can't speak for the general movie going public though...

Would love to help but it's not out here in the UK till Feb :(
Will defo check it out then - was sold when I saw the trailer - and I know a lot of my friends are eager to see it. I can't speak for the general movie going public though...

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8:27AM on 10/25/2012

good job!

I personally can't wait for the movie, I hope it ends up being one of my favorites this year and all time :P
I personally can't wait for the movie, I hope it ends up being one of my favorites this year and all time :P
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8:21AM on 10/25/2012
A heartfelt and genuine plea. Well said Alejandro, I for one will be there this weekend.
A heartfelt and genuine plea. Well said Alejandro, I for one will be there this weekend.
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