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A tame Terminator?

05.05.2008

Having a PG-13 DIE HARD movie was bad enough and now it looks like we'll have to sit through a PG-13 TERMINATOR. Production company Halcyon confirmed to Variety that they aim to deliver a PG-13 movie to Warner Bros. and by "aim to deliver" they mean that "Warner Bros. told us to make a PG-13 movie otherwise they wouldn't touch it with a 10-ft. pole." In fact Halcyon head Derek Anderson says he never even discussed the possibility of a R-rated TERMINATOR with Warner Bros. Halcyon believes that they can "broaden" the film's audience without compromising the film's "gritty vision." But really, are teenagers the target audience for a TERMINATOR movie? In the end though it's all about money and things like a mass-market toy deal with Plamates Toys (finally you can have your Christian Bale Batman fight your Christian Bale John Connor!). In addition to Bale, the film stars Sam Worthington, Moon Bloodgood and Anton Yelchin. Filming on TERMINATOR SALVATION begins today in Los Angeles.

Extra Tidbit: Sadly that Terminator doggystyle scene will have to be cut in the PG-13 version...
Source: Variety

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4:58AM on 05/08/2008

Oh Well

I will still go see it because I'm a Terminator fan.....BTW, nice use of the Hot Toys figs in the pic!!!
I will still go see it because I'm a Terminator fan.....BTW, nice use of the Hot Toys figs in the pic!!!
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5:00PM on 05/06/2008
What a shame. Really. Do I have to say more? No balls. Goddamn. What a shame.
What a shame. Really. Do I have to say more? No balls. Goddamn. What a shame.
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10:03AM on 05/06/2008
So, I guess nowadays they just simply DO NOT WANT to keep old customers (fans); all they care about now are those friggin' kids. So, I wonder if it'll be Barney the dinosaur or the Power Rangers who show up to fight the Terminator.

I'm out. OH, and by the way, I WOULD'VE been in for a new Terminator movie! But nope, not now... I'm out! This is sounding like poop... utter poop! (Yeah, that's right, "poop." I'm trying to appeal to the kid market, 'cause that's where it's at! I want
So, I guess nowadays they just simply DO NOT WANT to keep old customers (fans); all they care about now are those friggin' kids. So, I wonder if it'll be Barney the dinosaur or the Power Rangers who show up to fight the Terminator.

I'm out. OH, and by the way, I WOULD'VE been in for a new Terminator movie! But nope, not now... I'm out! This is sounding like poop... utter poop! (Yeah, that's right, "poop." I'm trying to appeal to the kid market, 'cause that's where it's at! I want parents to bring their kids and drop them off, money in hand, to see my post, and then the parents can just get lost. Who needs 'em? Plus, it's easier to do a post for kids, because I don't have to write a quality post if I'm just aiming at kids. They're dumb enough to fork over their parent's hard earned cash on any piece of doodie that looks cool. So that's my intended audience, now. You grown ups can take a hike... but please leave your wallet with your suckers... oops, I mean, kids... leave your wallet with your kids.)
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3:48AM on 05/06/2008

By the way Theotherness and Magicwizguy...

I don't mean to pick a fight, but you guys must be young.

Live Free or Die Hard pales in comparison the the original Die Hard, which set the bar for so many films to come... DeSouza wrote one of the best action scripts ever, and that was McTiernan (God rest his soul, and yes I know he's not dead, but his career is) at the top of his game. In fact, many regard the first Die Hard as one of the best action films ever made.

Live Free or... was a mediocre action film with plot holes you could
I don't mean to pick a fight, but you guys must be young.

Live Free or Die Hard pales in comparison the the original Die Hard, which set the bar for so many films to come... DeSouza wrote one of the best action scripts ever, and that was McTiernan (God rest his soul, and yes I know he's not dead, but his career is) at the top of his game. In fact, many regard the first Die Hard as one of the best action films ever made.

Live Free or... was a mediocre action film with plot holes you could drive a truck through, a cartoon-ish (so not John McClane) Bruce Willis, and as a Die Hard film, it was utter shit... Oh, and the PG13 rating? Well, that was insulting.

Sorry guys, but it had to be said.

Oh, and P.S. Alan Rickman was robbed of an Oscar nomination on the first film.
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3:40AM on 05/06/2008

Fuck. This. Movie.

Why would Bale do this? Not like he needs the money... The third film was a giant steaming turd, and now this???? What the hell are they doing?! Fucking suits, man. It's all about the dollar. Well... They won't be getting mine.

As far as I'm concerned, the series died when James Cameron said "no."

Fuck Halcyon. Oh, and by the way? Reading the quote "Gritty vision" associated with a project directed by McG? Yeah. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
Why would Bale do this? Not like he needs the money... The third film was a giant steaming turd, and now this???? What the hell are they doing?! Fucking suits, man. It's all about the dollar. Well... They won't be getting mine.

As far as I'm concerned, the series died when James Cameron said "no."

Fuck Halcyon. Oh, and by the way? Reading the quote "Gritty vision" associated with a project directed by McG? Yeah. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
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3:34AM on 05/06/2008

greed

Remember when movies just made a profit and that ment they were successful? Now if a film doesn't make 400 bajillion dollars it's a flop.
Remember when movies just made a profit and that ment they were successful? Now if a film doesn't make 400 bajillion dollars it's a flop.
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2:56AM on 05/06/2008

Aww

Hopin' for a great follow up of the francise, PG-13? now i know it's gonna suck..
Hopin' for a great follow up of the francise, PG-13? now i know it's gonna suck..
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7:48PM on 05/05/2008
Cool. This project is officially lame. By broadening their audience they will surely lose old fans. Count me out.
Cool. This project is officially lame. By broadening their audience they will surely lose old fans. Count me out.
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7:46PM on 05/05/2008

Hey Mut...

...I'm moving to your neighborhood - $7.50 for a movie? I'm laying out $12 here on Long Island LOL!!!!
...I'm moving to your neighborhood - $7.50 for a movie? I'm laying out $12 here on Long Island LOL!!!!
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5:25PM on 05/05/2008

Hmmm...

Why do you guys not like DH4? That was the best one out of the frachise! So if DH4 pulled it off, I'm sure Terminator can.
Why do you guys not like DH4? That was the best one out of the frachise! So if DH4 pulled it off, I'm sure Terminator can.
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5:20PM on 05/05/2008
I still think that the PG-13 version of LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was great, even with the benefits of the later, unrated one.

As for this, how can I say what it'll be like? Perhaps the movie could suck even if it were rated NC-17 - I won't know until I see it, and neither will anyone else (sorry to burst everyone's egos...).
I still think that the PG-13 version of LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was great, even with the benefits of the later, unrated one.

As for this, how can I say what it'll be like? Perhaps the movie could suck even if it were rated NC-17 - I won't know until I see it, and neither will anyone else (sorry to burst everyone's egos...).
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3:16PM on 05/05/2008

Who cares?


Personally, I'd already lost interest as soon as McG was announced as the McDirector of this new McTerminator.

And this is going to be just like Brett Ratner's X3 all over again (that is, audiences will swarm to it on opening weekend 'cause they like the franchise...but the subsequent word-of-mouth will kill it dead before the following weekend).

Personally, I'd already lost interest as soon as McG was announced as the McDirector of this new McTerminator.

And this is going to be just like Brett Ratner's X3 all over again (that is, audiences will swarm to it on opening weekend 'cause they like the franchise...but the subsequent word-of-mouth will kill it dead before the following weekend).
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2:48PM on 05/05/2008
ratings be damned - of course teenagers are the target audience. are you fucking kidding me?
ratings be damned - of course teenagers are the target audience. are you fucking kidding me?
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2:45PM on 05/05/2008

rofl stupid

I don't think anyone's interested in this shit. If they weren't before, they shouldn't be now. So Bale is in it; big whoop. He was in HARSH TIMES, too.
I don't think anyone's interested in this shit. If they weren't before, they shouldn't be now. So Bale is in it; big whoop. He was in HARSH TIMES, too.
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2:25PM on 05/05/2008

This should be R

I think this new terminator having an R rating is more important that the other films. I figured this movie would be a gritty, post-apocalyptic battle between men and machines (like the future scenes in Cameron's films). I'm not saying we need Saving Private Ryan type blood, but I think the battle scenes would be better with an R-rating.
I think this new terminator having an R rating is more important that the other films. I figured this movie would be a gritty, post-apocalyptic battle between men and machines (like the future scenes in Cameron's films). I'm not saying we need Saving Private Ryan type blood, but I think the battle scenes would be better with an R-rating.
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1:32PM on 05/05/2008
I was soo disappointed with Terminator 3, that a fourth one just didn't seem worth my time till I heard Christian Bale was in it. Now with a PG-13 rating I'll save my $10 and completely avoid it.
I was soo disappointed with Terminator 3, that a fourth one just didn't seem worth my time till I heard Christian Bale was in it. Now with a PG-13 rating I'll save my $10 and completely avoid it.
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1:30PM on 05/05/2008

I'M OUT!

McG
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The writers of Catwoman, Primeval and T3
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PG-13
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I'm out! See you on .avi!
McG
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The writers of Catwoman, Primeval and T3
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PG-13
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I'm out! See you on .avi!
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12:54PM on 05/05/2008
This is sucha turn off...
Im not excited about this at all, I mean, the 3rd one was a recycle fest. Hated it.
Not sure if bringing Bale to the franchise will help anything.
This is sucha turn off...
Im not excited about this at all, I mean, the 3rd one was a recycle fest. Hated it.
Not sure if bringing Bale to the franchise will help anything.
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12:42PM on 05/05/2008

Lost in Space

Im gonna have to agree with the user"Lost in Space" BSG = teh win
Im gonna have to agree with the user"Lost in Space" BSG = teh win
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12:04PM on 05/05/2008
GDMF......yeaaaaaah. Who's going to see a suck-ass PG-13 Terminator? C'MON HOLLYWOOD! The first two were rated-R! What the hell?!
GDMF......yeaaaaaah. Who's going to see a suck-ass PG-13 Terminator? C'MON HOLLYWOOD! The first two were rated-R! What the hell?!
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11:57AM on 05/05/2008
Guess that means I'll be skipping it. Haha, Studio Heads, you may have won a shitload of money from the teenyboppers, but you've lost my $7.50! Which, I guess, is still a win for you. But hey, it's the principal of the thing!
Guess that means I'll be skipping it. Haha, Studio Heads, you may have won a shitload of money from the teenyboppers, but you've lost my $7.50! Which, I guess, is still a win for you. But hey, it's the principal of the thing!
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11:43AM on 05/05/2008
I just did not see this coming. I am not surprised though and I am not excited for this film at all.
I just did not see this coming. I am not surprised though and I am not excited for this film at all.
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11:03AM on 05/05/2008
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Terminator is an R rated Franchise, i see a terminator movie, i expect to see Blood, Mutilations, curse words

Batman has always been a PG13 franchise, no violence that warrants an R rating

I hope Warner comes to their senses, but it doesnt seem that way.
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Terminator is an R rated Franchise, i see a terminator movie, i expect to see Blood, Mutilations, curse words

Batman has always been a PG13 franchise, no violence that warrants an R rating

I hope Warner comes to their senses, but it doesnt seem that way.
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10:33AM on 05/05/2008
Maybe I have lost my mind. But why is everyone upset about this. How many of you are pissed off that The Dark Knight isn't rated R? Because it shares the same rating as Prom Night does that make it a crap movie? No. Get over it.
Maybe I have lost my mind. But why is everyone upset about this. How many of you are pissed off that The Dark Knight isn't rated R? Because it shares the same rating as Prom Night does that make it a crap movie? No. Get over it.
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10:02AM on 05/05/2008

No surprise

It is ALL about the money. Aiming the film at teenage boys is the marketing strategy that works best (figures, cartoon spin-off, fast food meals, etc.), but fans of the series will no doubt feel let down. No 'Yippie Kayay, motherfucker!' killed me! Long live Arnold and John McClane!!!!
It is ALL about the money. Aiming the film at teenage boys is the marketing strategy that works best (figures, cartoon spin-off, fast food meals, etc.), but fans of the series will no doubt feel let down. No 'Yippie Kayay, motherfucker!' killed me! Long live Arnold and John McClane!!!!
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9:45AM on 05/05/2008
Battlestar Galactica > Terminator

that's the only robot/apocalypse story i need.
Battlestar Galactica > Terminator

that's the only robot/apocalypse story i need.
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8:26AM on 05/05/2008
Lets see how much grittiness they can retain with that rating...I hope it works.
Lets see how much grittiness they can retain with that rating...I hope it works.
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8:20AM on 05/05/2008
Even Iron Man is PG-13 and looks how awesome and fun it is (at least I had fun watching it). So the new Terminator film with PG-13 might not turn out that bad. Have to wait and see for this.
Even Iron Man is PG-13 and looks how awesome and fun it is (at least I had fun watching it). So the new Terminator film with PG-13 might not turn out that bad. Have to wait and see for this.
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8:11AM on 05/05/2008

Meh

Honestly, I don't see how T3 was rated R aside from the nudity at the beginning. But, Beowulf had more nudity and gore and it was PG-13 (I know it was animated but still).
Honestly, I don't see how T3 was rated R aside from the nudity at the beginning. But, Beowulf had more nudity and gore and it was PG-13 (I know it was animated but still).
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8:07AM on 05/05/2008
Nothing about the previous Terminator films really made it a hard R in the first place. Die Hard had a lot of swearing, etc.

Did anyone catch the Sarah Conner Chronicles a few months back on Fox? That obviously wasn't R rated and I thought it was actually pretty good.

Have faith in this film. If that doesn't help, just remember that Bale doesn't simply sign onto films for a paycheck. So the premise and script has to be good already. And that can make a huge difference in enjoying
Nothing about the previous Terminator films really made it a hard R in the first place. Die Hard had a lot of swearing, etc.

Did anyone catch the Sarah Conner Chronicles a few months back on Fox? That obviously wasn't R rated and I thought it was actually pretty good.

Have faith in this film. If that doesn't help, just remember that Bale doesn't simply sign onto films for a paycheck. So the premise and script has to be good already. And that can make a huge difference in enjoying the film regardless of the rating.
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7:38AM on 05/05/2008
Like I said on the forum:

"They could actually pull it off simply because Terminator was rated R because of the self mutilation and damage that Arnold goes through as a cyborg that doesnt feel pain. Terminator 2 copped an R rating for the same reason, plus the assault on police officers.

However considering neither a police department nor flesh covered Terminators exist (yet) in T4 these are not an issue. This is the future war, with less advanced robots as Arnold's model, and then Robert
Like I said on the forum:

"They could actually pull it off simply because Terminator was rated R because of the self mutilation and damage that Arnold goes through as a cyborg that doesnt feel pain. Terminator 2 copped an R rating for the same reason, plus the assault on police officers.

However considering neither a police department nor flesh covered Terminators exist (yet) in T4 these are not an issue. This is the future war, with less advanced robots as Arnold's model, and then Robert Patrick's, comes further down the timeline.

And it is not like Terminator was known for its language like Die Hard was. So I think a gritty dark future world is definitly doable as a PG13 movie."

So, it _might_ not be as bad as we think...
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7:31AM on 05/05/2008
Can't say I'm totally shocked. Terminator 3 was pretty tame despite the R rating (which was rated '12' in the UK by comparison.) So with the Chronicles show available for every age, the target audience is changing and getting younger.
Can't say I'm totally shocked. Terminator 3 was pretty tame despite the R rating (which was rated '12' in the UK by comparison.) So with the Chronicles show available for every age, the target audience is changing and getting younger.
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