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Abrams talks Khan

Nov. 3, 2009by: Paul Tassi

For better or worse, J.J. Abrams is mulling over casting Khan in the STAR TREK sequel, and he recently chatted briefly with MTV about the prospect. Nothing seems certain yet, but it's clearly something on the forefront of his mind.

"Now that we are in a parallel existence with what fans of the original series love so much, we could introduce any number of characters, settings, references and situations that the original series introduced. Dealing with Khan would certainly be a challenge, but we had an equal challenge in finding our crew of the Enterprise."

"While I don’t want to approach the second film as a remake of episodes we’ve seen in the past... nothing is off limits in terms of what we’re discussing," he said. "When Bob Orci and the others who know 'Trek' so well, the fun of working with them is they know this universe so deeply they’re the ones who are always considering what it means to deal with the stuff in the past, so it’ll be exciting."

I don’t know how I feel about Khan being trotted out already as a villain, but if J.J. went with it, I'd have faith. I think it would be cool to see him tackle the Borg, but I guess there’s always STAR TREK 3. Thoughts?

Extra Tidbit: Pine better start practicing his KHAAAAAAAN!
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2:35PM on 11/05/2009

I'd be cool with Khan, but...

They'd have to do it drastically different. JJ's talked about wanting torture to be a theme with the Klingons, so why not mix things up a bit and have the Klingons find the Botany Bay (Khan's ship.) They take the sleeping crew prisoner and the Enterprise is sent in on a rescue missiona Kobyashi Maru, if you willinto Klingon space. Khan's secondary, but he breaks out and goes on a rage of his own after having his crew tortured, steals a Klingon ship, and faces off with Kirk towards the end.
They'd have to do it drastically different. JJ's talked about wanting torture to be a theme with the Klingons, so why not mix things up a bit and have the Klingons find the Botany Bay (Khan's ship.) They take the sleeping crew prisoner and the Enterprise is sent in on a rescue missiona Kobyashi Maru, if you willinto Klingon space. Khan's secondary, but he breaks out and goes on a rage of his own after having his crew tortured, steals a Klingon ship, and faces off with Kirk towards the end.
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12:42PM on 11/04/2009
Instead of getting anywhere near a remake of the original Wrath of Khan, Abrams should play on the fact that this is a reality where time travel has shifted things from the original series. In this setting, Khan never got screwed over by the Federation and is in fact an ally to Kirk and a viscious warrior that helps them defeat an unstoppable enemy. Any attempts to bring Khan in as a movie villain would be very tough to not just have people see it as a remake even if you changed plot points.
Instead of getting anywhere near a remake of the original Wrath of Khan, Abrams should play on the fact that this is a reality where time travel has shifted things from the original series. In this setting, Khan never got screwed over by the Federation and is in fact an ally to Kirk and a viscious warrior that helps them defeat an unstoppable enemy. Any attempts to bring Khan in as a movie villain would be very tough to not just have people see it as a remake even if you changed plot points.
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5:59AM on 11/04/2009
This is a whole new universe they can play with why not come up with some new villians/aliens instead of trotting out the same old ones.
This is a whole new universe they can play with why not come up with some new villians/aliens instead of trotting out the same old ones.
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2:53AM on 11/04/2009

Gonna catch hell, but...

Antonio Banderas as Khan. Think "Space Seed" kind of Khan. I alway thought Ricardo Mantalban was a little over-the-top (even more so than the Great Shat; an impressive feat) in ST2-TWOK. But bad-ass in "Space Seed."
Antonio Banderas as Khan. Think "Space Seed" kind of Khan. I alway thought Ricardo Mantalban was a little over-the-top (even more so than the Great Shat; an impressive feat) in ST2-TWOK. But bad-ass in "Space Seed."
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1:22AM on 11/04/2009
Khan should be in the third installment. If he's in the second, the team behind this isn't as creative as we thought. The new crew needs to be established more before Khan enters the franchise again.
Khan should be in the third installment. If he's in the second, the team behind this isn't as creative as we thought. The new crew needs to be established more before Khan enters the franchise again.
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12:43AM on 11/04/2009
i think they should have a subplot in 2 involving Kahn. and then in three or 4 have him return!
i think they should have a subplot in 2 involving Kahn. and then in three or 4 have him return!
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6:54PM on 11/04/2009
Exactly what I was thinking.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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9:07PM on 11/03/2009
Someone seriously needs to bitch-slap this little A.D.D. punk.

Repeatedly.
Someone seriously needs to bitch-slap this little A.D.D. punk.

Repeatedly.
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6:55PM on 11/04/2009
Why?? Khan is quite possibly the greatest movie villain of all time. It's the kind of challenge only a handful of people in the business can pull off, and JJ is one of them.
Why?? Khan is quite possibly the greatest movie villain of all time. It's the kind of challenge only a handful of people in the business can pull off, and JJ is one of them.
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9:06PM on 11/03/2009
i say have earth conquered and ruled over by tyrannical humpback whale g'hump'cla and his 1 billion army of murderous barbaric humpbacks.
i say have earth conquered and ruled over by tyrannical humpback whale g'hump'cla and his 1 billion army of murderous barbaric humpbacks.
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8:46PM on 11/03/2009

Not "Depressing"

The new Star Trek did so well because it intended on being "Fun" first and then "Star Trek" second. Thank God for that, the franchise nearly died a very horrible death because it forgot how to be fun!
The new Star Trek did so well because it intended on being "Fun" first and then "Star Trek" second. Thank God for that, the franchise nearly died a very horrible death because it forgot how to be fun!
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8:45PM on 11/03/2009

Sorry

Sorry about 500 posts there. My Mac went bananas
Sorry about 500 posts there. My Mac went bananas
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8:44PM on 11/03/2009

Depressing

The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
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8:41PM on 11/03/2009

Depressing

The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
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8:33PM on 11/03/2009

Depressing

The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
The really depressing thing to me is the fact that everyone loves the new Star Trek movie. For me it was on par with any of the stupid new Star Wars movies. The writing was equally as lazy and it became an action fantasy instead of a good sci fi film. (Which is what Star Trek should be)
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8:33PM on 11/03/2009
The acting in Trek was better though
The acting in Trek was better though
8:27PM on 11/03/2009
I'm just gonna go out and say it: Javier Bardem needs to play Khan.
I'm just gonna go out and say it: Javier Bardem needs to play Khan.
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12:41AM on 11/04/2009
kudos man. that would be so awesome
kudos man. that would be so awesome
8:17PM on 11/03/2009

Box Office Sense

It's too early for Khan. They will ride the momentum off the first film and expand the universe. The new portrayal of these characters aren't ingrained enough into the masses for such a story centric character as Khan.

They'll leave Khan for the fourth or at the very least the third instalment to give it a vital injection of enthusiasm.

Who could they possibly cast as Khan? If they do go down this route I hope they choose someone of a suitable ethnic origin.
It's too early for Khan. They will ride the momentum off the first film and expand the universe. The new portrayal of these characters aren't ingrained enough into the masses for such a story centric character as Khan.

They'll leave Khan for the fourth or at the very least the third instalment to give it a vital injection of enthusiasm.

Who could they possibly cast as Khan? If they do go down this route I hope they choose someone of a suitable ethnic origin.
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8:08PM on 11/03/2009
This is a terrible idea. It would ruin a new franchise already on very shaken ground with most Trekkies.
This is a terrible idea. It would ruin a new franchise already on very shaken ground with most Trekkies.
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6:59PM on 11/04/2009
I have been a HUGE Trekkie for 20 years now and everyone I know, myself included, LOVED the new movie.
I have been a HUGE Trekkie for 20 years now and everyone I know, myself included, LOVED the new movie.
8:02PM on 11/03/2009
I'd like to see them go with some story on par with TOS episode 5 "The Enemy Within'" or my favorite Original Series episode 33 "Who Mourns For Adonis?" type of story-so many cool episodes could be mulled over as at least a story line basis. "A Private Little War" episode 45 will always be a contemporary story/reality. I'm sure whatever story they cook up will be a good one-origin film rocked! Great stuff.
I'd like to see them go with some story on par with TOS episode 5 "The Enemy Within'" or my favorite Original Series episode 33 "Who Mourns For Adonis?" type of story-so many cool episodes could be mulled over as at least a story line basis. "A Private Little War" episode 45 will always be a contemporary story/reality. I'm sure whatever story they cook up will be a good one-origin film rocked! Great stuff.
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7:54PM on 11/03/2009
I have faith in these guys. Always loved Star Trek and this film was off the charts for me.

The Borg could actually come into this timeline since things have changed. They have always been my fav villians. First Contact and the reboot are my 2 fav films. I say bring on the Borg!!
I have faith in these guys. Always loved Star Trek and this film was off the charts for me.

The Borg could actually come into this timeline since things have changed. They have always been my fav villians. First Contact and the reboot are my 2 fav films. I say bring on the Borg!!
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7:50PM on 11/03/2009

KHAAAAAN!

I think JJ's got this - I have faith
I think JJ's got this - I have faith
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7:25PM on 11/03/2009

Gael Garca Bernal

Gael Garca Bernal from the Motorcyle Daires/Bable would be a good young Khan. Even though there is only a 2 year difference between him and Chris Pine (11 between Montalban and Shanter), i still think he would be exellent.
Gael Garca Bernal from the Motorcyle Daires/Bable would be a good young Khan. Even though there is only a 2 year difference between him and Chris Pine (11 between Montalban and Shanter), i still think he would be exellent.
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7:07PM on 11/03/2009

To hell with Khan!

Henry Mudd, dammit!
Henry Mudd, dammit!
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6:47PM on 11/03/2009
As has already been mentioned, the only way to use Khan would be to basically remake "Space Seed." Which would be interesting, I suppose, but what would be the point?
As has already been mentioned, the only way to use Khan would be to basically remake "Space Seed." Which would be interesting, I suppose, but what would be the point?
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5:26PM on 11/03/2009

Antonio Bandaras

He was spectacularly creepy as a villain in Interview With A Vampire. A worthy successor to Ricardo.
He was spectacularly creepy as a villain in Interview With A Vampire. A worthy successor to Ricardo.
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6:09PM on 11/03/2009
thats actually not a bad idea
thats actually not a bad idea
4:28PM on 11/03/2009

Spock's Brain!

Now that would be a challenge ;-)
But please, no Tribbles!
Now that would be a challenge ;-)
But please, no Tribbles!
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4:23PM on 11/03/2009

Space seed

Screw Klingons.
I wasn't huge on the reboot, but the only good feeling I got was that the second movie would be them finding the Botany Bay, and Kahn... with less yoga.
Screw Klingons.
I wasn't huge on the reboot, but the only good feeling I got was that the second movie would be them finding the Botany Bay, and Kahn... with less yoga.
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4:18PM on 11/03/2009

Botany Bay

I think instead of re-hashing the plot of ST 2, they should go back to the original Botany Bay episode where Khan first appears - he and his gen mod soldiers take over the Enterprise. That would be better for #3 or #4 though - #2 needs to be the Klingons. They need to introduce some brilliant Klingon captain that can be Kirk's rival going forward.
I think instead of re-hashing the plot of ST 2, they should go back to the original Botany Bay episode where Khan first appears - he and his gen mod soldiers take over the Enterprise. That would be better for #3 or #4 though - #2 needs to be the Klingons. They need to introduce some brilliant Klingon captain that can be Kirk's rival going forward.
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4:05PM on 11/03/2009

Javier?

I thought Abrams was in talks to Bardem about starring as Kahn?
I thought Abrams was in talks to Bardem about starring as Kahn?
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4:01PM on 11/03/2009
I say introduce Khan, not as a pure villian at this point but as a neutral or almost good character who, during the film, is somehow wronged by Kirk and vows revenge in III. I honestly think II should be enitrely about the Klingnons since they weren't even dealt with in I.
I say introduce Khan, not as a pure villian at this point but as a neutral or almost good character who, during the film, is somehow wronged by Kirk and vows revenge in III. I honestly think II should be enitrely about the Klingnons since they weren't even dealt with in I.
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4:10PM on 11/03/2009
How can Kahn be introduced in any way other than being found in cryogenic sleep on the Botany Bay? Nero's time rewrite wouldn't have altered the casting away of Khan and his supermen in the 90's. The only way to have Khan in this movie would be to retell SPACE SEED in feature length. Which nobody wants to see. But if the Klingons are going to be portrayed as they were in the deleted scene- black masked, monsters who sound like English professors, I'd prefer SPACE SEED.
How can Kahn be introduced in any way other than being found in cryogenic sleep on the Botany Bay? Nero's time rewrite wouldn't have altered the casting away of Khan and his supermen in the 90's. The only way to have Khan in this movie would be to retell SPACE SEED in feature length. Which nobody wants to see. But if the Klingons are going to be portrayed as they were in the deleted scene- black masked, monsters who sound like English professors, I'd prefer SPACE SEED.
4:00PM on 11/03/2009

Castor

You're dum or what !?!
You're dum or what !?!
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3:57PM on 11/03/2009
Have either the Borg or Klingons for the villains and have Khans character as a good guy who eventually is set up as the villain for Star Trek III.
Have either the Borg or Klingons for the villains and have Khans character as a good guy who eventually is set up as the villain for Star Trek III.
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3:57PM on 11/03/2009
From what I understood, he is NOT remaking Star Trek 2, but using Kahn, which is, well, a lot different, so stop panicking geeks.
From what I understood, he is NOT remaking Star Trek 2, but using Kahn, which is, well, a lot different, so stop panicking geeks.
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3:47PM on 11/03/2009

I'm with KcMsterpce

The latest Star Trek was a great reboot to the series, but there's a lot more they could do than simply recycling old villains. Leave Khan alone.
The latest Star Trek was a great reboot to the series, but there's a lot more they could do than simply recycling old villains. Leave Khan alone.
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3:32PM on 11/03/2009

screw that noise

Leave ST2:TWoK alone!!!!!
Do something different, instead of going with a tried and proven movie that really doesn't need to be revisited. It was done well enough with the original(s).
Leave ST2:TWoK alone!!!!!
Do something different, instead of going with a tried and proven movie that really doesn't need to be revisited. It was done well enough with the original(s).
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3:31PM on 11/03/2009

Healthy reboot

I thought Star Trek was as good a reboot of a franchise as I have ever seen. I just don't think it's developed enough to bring in Khan. It worked with TOS because there was an original episode giving us the history on Khan and why he was so bitter towards Kirk.
I thought Star Trek was as good a reboot of a franchise as I have ever seen. I just don't think it's developed enough to bring in Khan. It worked with TOS because there was an original episode giving us the history on Khan and why he was so bitter towards Kirk.
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3:27PM on 11/03/2009

i rather wait

I would love to see a new Khan movie! However I rather not have it as the next one. Id like to see them do something original that pulls Khan into the story for a third one.
I would love to see a new Khan movie! However I rather not have it as the next one. Id like to see them do something original that pulls Khan into the story for a third one.
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3:23PM on 11/03/2009

NONONO

STOP!! The 1st movie was fun but stupid and nowhere near as good as any real Star Trek (Orginal)...but for the love of everything that is holy. CAN'T THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING ORIGINAL EVER??!!

I hate Hollywood for simultaneously giving birth to, and then destroying my dreams.
STOP!! The 1st movie was fun but stupid and nowhere near as good as any real Star Trek (Orginal)...but for the love of everything that is holy. CAN'T THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING ORIGINAL EVER??!!

I hate Hollywood for simultaneously giving birth to, and then destroying my dreams.
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