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After 12 Oscar nominations, The Weinstein Co. to reedit The King's Speech

01.26.2011

Your film, THE KING'S SPEECH, was just nominated for 12 Oscars, the most of any film this year. So what do you do? If you're Harvey Weinstein, you do what you do best - you take the film in the editing room and start cutting away. Yup, Harvey Scissorhands is thinking of reediting a just-Oscar-nominated film.

While the Weinsteins are seemingly pleased that SPEECH was nominated for 12 Oscars, they seem less pleased that they haven't seen the Oscar buzz bump that many other films - like BLACK SWAN, TRUE GRIT and SOCIAL NETWORK - have received. The Weinstein Co. took a look at the British box-office, where the film has been #1 for three straight weeks with the equivalent of a PG-13 rating and decided that the MPAA's R-rating is slowing the US box-office.

While it's not a done deal, Weinstein is "discussing" the idea of reediting the film to a PG-13 or even a PG with director Tom Hooper. Says Weinstein of the moves, "We’re trying to get across that this movie is just as cool as the other movies people are seeing." Seriously. I didn't make that quote up.

In addition to aiming for a new rating, they'll also be increasing the amount of screens for the film (up from 1,680 to 2,500) and will focus the ad campaign away from the awards and accolades and more to the friendship between Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush's characters.

TWC had appealed the R-rating for KING'S SPEECH before its release but was denied by the MPAA. The slightly less strict BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) gave the film a 12+ rating leading the Weinsteins to believe this is why the film is so much more popular in the UK (it couldn't possibly be because the English are slightly more interested in a film about the British Monarchy...)

If Hooper and Weinstein decide to reedit the film, the new cut likely wouldn't be ready for theaters until after the Oscar telecast in late-February.

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4:09AM on 01/27/2011
If they must do this then leave both cuts in cinemas and let the public decide. "Two for King's Speech please" "Uncensored version or fucking censored version?"
If they must do this then leave both cuts in cinemas and let the public decide. "Two for King's Speech please" "Uncensored version or fucking censored version?"
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12:01AM on 01/27/2011
uhh lol what idiots
uhh lol what idiots
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8:05PM on 01/26/2011
There gonna have to edit alot cause they drop the F Bomb like 50 times. Good movie though.
There gonna have to edit alot cause they drop the F Bomb like 50 times. Good movie though.
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4:56PM on 01/26/2011
fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fucking Fuck, FUCK, Fucking Bugger! Buggity Buggity Buggity FUCK! Ass, Balls Balls, Fucking tit-shit-fucking willy! Shit and fuck... and tits.
fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fucking Fuck, FUCK, Fucking Bugger! Buggity Buggity Buggity FUCK! Ass, Balls Balls, Fucking tit-shit-fucking willy! Shit and fuck... and tits.
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4:39PM on 01/26/2011
NO. FUCK THIS. The MPAA should pull the rods out of their collective ass-holes and just re-rate the movie. There's NOTHING wrong with the amount of language in this movie, and it's played completely in the context of helping someone heal from a condition. Fuck. This strike-back has now been rated "R" for excessive language.
NO. FUCK THIS. The MPAA should pull the rods out of their collective ass-holes and just re-rate the movie. There's NOTHING wrong with the amount of language in this movie, and it's played completely in the context of helping someone heal from a condition. Fuck. This strike-back has now been rated "R" for excessive language.
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4:34PM on 01/26/2011

This decision speaks volumes

about the MPAA's senility and the Weinstein's financial desperation. I've seen the movie: the scene they're talking about is one of the funniest, yet most heartbreakingly poignant moments in this movie and The King's Speech would lose a lot of its resonance without it. Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush's performances are incredible and it goes a long way towards humanizing George VI.

The Weinsteins need a blockbuster and they're hoping The King's Speech will be that film. Unfortunately, it's
about the MPAA's senility and the Weinstein's financial desperation. I've seen the movie: the scene they're talking about is one of the funniest, yet most heartbreakingly poignant moments in this movie and The King's Speech would lose a lot of its resonance without it. Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush's performances are incredible and it goes a long way towards humanizing George VI.

The Weinsteins need a blockbuster and they're hoping The King's Speech will be that film. Unfortunately, it's not: it's great Oscar bait.
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4:01PM on 01/26/2011
I'm going to see this next week - and it has nothing to do with the rating or awards it's been nominated for.

It's simply because it looks like a great movie.
I'm going to see this next week - and it has nothing to do with the rating or awards it's been nominated for.

It's simply because it looks like a great movie.
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2:46PM on 01/26/2011

PG in Canada!

As douchey as the Weinsteins are, a huge part of this can be blamed on the MPAA. What is it? Just the one scene where Firth has that swearing fit....

Note to the MPAA: IT IS ONE SCENE. Put that in your PG-13 description! "for a scene of sustained strong language". Otherwise, bring up the inevitable classic argument that kids start swearing on the playground.

Proof that the MPAA continue to be fucking idiots. The King's Speech is 12+ in the UK. Here in Canada, it's PG. 99% of R-rated
As douchey as the Weinsteins are, a huge part of this can be blamed on the MPAA. What is it? Just the one scene where Firth has that swearing fit....

Note to the MPAA: IT IS ONE SCENE. Put that in your PG-13 description! "for a scene of sustained strong language". Otherwise, bring up the inevitable classic argument that kids start swearing on the playground.

Proof that the MPAA continue to be fucking idiots. The King's Speech is 12+ in the UK. Here in Canada, it's PG. 99% of R-rated movies are rated 14A or 18A in Canada.
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2:38PM on 01/26/2011

That's why we all love the Weinsteins isnt it ?

The movie is doing just fine at the box office. The buzz surrounding it is enough already, it might even pass the $100M mark if it keeps going like this.
The movie is doing just fine at the box office. The buzz surrounding it is enough already, it might even pass the $100M mark if it keeps going like this.
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2:35PM on 01/26/2011
This is like if Paramount had decided to remove the "fuck" scene from Planes Trains & Automobiles.. thank GOD that didnt happen
This is like if Paramount had decided to remove the "fuck" scene from Planes Trains & Automobiles.. thank GOD that didnt happen
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2:22PM on 01/26/2011
So this mean we don't get to hear George say "Fuck" again and again? Oh, right, and "Cunt."
So this mean we don't get to hear George say "Fuck" again and again? Oh, right, and "Cunt."
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2:21PM on 01/26/2011

nowheredan136

I really wish the Weinsteins themselves would be less involved with their movies. approving a budget is one thing but interfering with the director and editor is going a little far. Expanding the theater release and promoting the movie as a Oscar nomenee is the best way to get people to see it. giving it a PG13 rating is gonna make 13 year old kids wanna go see a movie about a British King, know your target audience.

Also they should release "Hoodwinked Too" already. It's been over a year
I really wish the Weinsteins themselves would be less involved with their movies. approving a budget is one thing but interfering with the director and editor is going a little far. Expanding the theater release and promoting the movie as a Oscar nomenee is the best way to get people to see it. giving it a PG13 rating is gonna make 13 year old kids wanna go see a movie about a British King, know your target audience.

Also they should release "Hoodwinked Too" already. It's been over a year
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2:00PM on 01/26/2011
The film is brilliant, the Weinsteins are not!
The film is brilliant, the Weinsteins are not!
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1:48PM on 01/26/2011
No no no NO NO NO NONONONONONO!!!!! What the FUCK are they thinking!?!??! What are they going to do, remove the entire cussing scene, the best scene in the film?! People are seeing this film despite its R rating, parents can still take their kids to this, they don't need to re-rate it in order to do that. Besides, this isn't England here, families would never go for something like this, it's an adult entertainment and I'd say it's pretty successfully tapped into that audience!!! [link] this is
No no no NO NO NO NONONONONONO!!!!! What the FUCK are they thinking!?!??! What are they going to do, remove the entire cussing scene, the best scene in the film?! People are seeing this film despite its R rating, parents can still take their kids to this, they don't need to re-rate it in order to do that. Besides, this isn't England here, families would never go for something like this, it's an adult entertainment and I'd say it's pretty successfully tapped into that audience!!! [link] this is the must INFURIATING NEWS I've heard recently. What the FUCKKK
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1:44PM on 01/26/2011

Why is it R?

Why is it R in the first place? Pure language based? Is it the c-word?? No sex scene, no violence, no drug use, nor reason this hould be R.
Why is it R in the first place? Pure language based? Is it the c-word?? No sex scene, no violence, no drug use, nor reason this hould be R.
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1:37PM on 01/26/2011
Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck shit cunt balls, while I agree that the MPA is evil the reasoning behind reediting the film is just fudgin stupid. Oh sure, my 17 year old cousin would LOVE to see The King's Speech but sadly he can't, oh please lord, let there be SOMEONE who would re-cut it so it can now be PG-13
Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck shit cunt balls, while I agree that the MPA is evil the reasoning behind reediting the film is just fudgin stupid. Oh sure, my 17 year old cousin would LOVE to see The King's Speech but sadly he can't, oh please lord, let there be SOMEONE who would re-cut it so it can now be PG-13
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1:35PM on 01/26/2011
Dear Harvey and Bob Weinstein,
Fuck off! Your movie is great, is doing very respectable given the (somewhat) limited release, the subject ("The Queen" 's overall domestic gross is $2mil less than what "The King's Speech" is already at, and "TKS" is still in theaters and doing well), and doing this just shows how stupid you two truly are.

Sincerely,
Bobby
Dear Harvey and Bob Weinstein,
Fuck off! Your movie is great, is doing very respectable given the (somewhat) limited release, the subject ("The Queen" 's overall domestic gross is $2mil less than what "The King's Speech" is already at, and "TKS" is still in theaters and doing well), and doing this just shows how stupid you two truly are.

Sincerely,
Bobby
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12:57PM on 01/26/2011

Its only been 20 some hours

and they're not happy with the oscar buzz "bump" in boxoffice? Its the middle of the week, late january, classes have just started back up, its 4 degrees outside, and Tosh.0 was on last night.. TWC needs to fucking relax a bit. Wait til this weekend when no one is gonna give a shit about the new films opening and be more interested in quality Oscar holdovers.
and they're not happy with the oscar buzz "bump" in boxoffice? Its the middle of the week, late january, classes have just started back up, its 4 degrees outside, and Tosh.0 was on last night.. TWC needs to fucking relax a bit. Wait til this weekend when no one is gonna give a shit about the new films opening and be more interested in quality Oscar holdovers.
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12:39PM on 01/26/2011
The Weinstein Bros. always making stupid decisions!
The Weinstein Bros. always making stupid decisions!
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12:37PM on 01/26/2011
Does the movie's rating really affect the gross that much?

I don't think so.
Does the movie's rating really affect the gross that much?

I don't think so.
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11:58AM on 01/26/2011
Kind of ironic that they're trying to make it more accessible to American teenagers by (supposedly) taking out the one scene that would hold said teenager's interest.
Kind of ironic that they're trying to make it more accessible to American teenagers by (supposedly) taking out the one scene that would hold said teenager's interest.
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11:43AM on 01/26/2011
Well this is the exact definition of selling out...
Well this is the exact definition of selling out...
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11:43AM on 01/26/2011
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11:32AM on 01/26/2011
worst thing i've heard today. this movie is huge relative to cost and its subject matter. plus it's a great fucking film. toning it down (whatever that may mean to them) will take away its humor and emotion. idiots.
worst thing i've heard today. this movie is huge relative to cost and its subject matter. plus it's a great fucking film. toning it down (whatever that may mean to them) will take away its humor and emotion. idiots.
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11:28AM on 01/26/2011
Why are people so STUPID? WTF man....Why is it rated R in the US anyway? I have watched it, what if anything is R Rated about it? the use of the word FUCK? that's all i saw!
Why are people so STUPID? WTF man....Why is it rated R in the US anyway? I have watched it, what if anything is R Rated about it? the use of the word FUCK? that's all i saw!
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2:04PM on 01/26/2011
If I'm not mistaken you are only allowed to use the word fuck once for PG-13, more than once and it's R
If I'm not mistaken you are only allowed to use the word fuck once for PG-13, more than once and it's R
11:12AM on 01/26/2011

$58 million in B.O. for a movie about the british monarchy= failure?

No matter what happens to a movie, Weinstein seems to think it's a failure to some degree. The King's Speech is number 3 at the US box office right now and has $58 million in BO and counting, which is good by any standard. He's insane.
No matter what happens to a movie, Weinstein seems to think it's a failure to some degree. The King's Speech is number 3 at the US box office right now and has $58 million in BO and counting, which is good by any standard. He's insane.
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11:04AM on 01/26/2011

What?!?!?!?

It is in the top 10 at the box office. To me that is mission accomplished. It already made back it's budget (15 million) and then some.
It is in the top 10 at the box office. To me that is mission accomplished. It already made back it's budget (15 million) and then some.
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10:32AM on 01/26/2011

the hell?

It's more popular in the UK cause it's their bloody history in the film!
It's more popular in the UK cause it's their bloody history in the film!
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10:24AM on 01/26/2011

Why fucking why?

Are you telling me that one of the funniest lines in the movie is going to be cut down? Fuck off Harvey!
Are you telling me that one of the funniest lines in the movie is going to be cut down? Fuck off Harvey!
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10:24AM on 01/26/2011
sorry but this doesnt seem the type of movie that should be cool but should be a well made movie
sorry but this doesnt seem the type of movie that should be cool but should be a well made movie
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10:21AM on 01/26/2011

It's the system that's broken...

Not the movie. Jeez, that this has gotten an R in the States is ridiculous. Hopefully with the whole Blue Valentine appeal thing, there'll be some revision of the ratings system...
Not the movie. Jeez, that this has gotten an R in the States is ridiculous. Hopefully with the whole Blue Valentine appeal thing, there'll be some revision of the ratings system...
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9:56AM on 01/26/2011
no 13 year old kid wants to see this movie.

personally, i hope they do this, though. and when the pg-13 version rakes in less than $1 million dollars, the studios will begin to realize that its not so much the rating that matters, but who the movie is targeted towards. i.e. pg-13 horror movies do worse than R-rated because horror fans dont want pg-13 horror. another i.e. this movie is simply targeted towards the British

again, no (american) 13 year-olds want to see this movie. its for
no 13 year old kid wants to see this movie.

personally, i hope they do this, though. and when the pg-13 version rakes in less than $1 million dollars, the studios will begin to realize that its not so much the rating that matters, but who the movie is targeted towards. i.e. pg-13 horror movies do worse than R-rated because horror fans dont want pg-13 horror. another i.e. this movie is simply targeted towards the British

again, no (american) 13 year-olds want to see this movie. its for mature audiences, not because of language or nudity, but because it has adult matters that no teenager cares about.
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12:03PM on 01/26/2011
im sorry but the part about R rated horror doing better at the box office is anything but true. Horror fans are a small demographic compared to preteens who want to see a scary movie. may i remind you of the prom night remake?
im sorry but the part about R rated horror doing better at the box office is anything but true. Horror fans are a small demographic compared to preteens who want to see a scary movie. may i remind you of the prom night remake?
12:26PM on 01/26/2011
Prom Night grossed 56 mil overall, as opposed to, say, The Hills Have Eyes which grossed 70 mil.

You can also look at Drag Me to Hell, which was rated pg13, had a "horror legend" like sam raimi attached to it and it grossed 15 mil in its opening wknd. As opposed to "The Strangers" which opened exactly one year prior and grossed 21 mil in its opening wknd - and nearly 11 mil more domestically overall.

try again.
Prom Night grossed 56 mil overall, as opposed to, say, The Hills Have Eyes which grossed 70 mil.

You can also look at Drag Me to Hell, which was rated pg13, had a "horror legend" like sam raimi attached to it and it grossed 15 mil in its opening wknd. As opposed to "The Strangers" which opened exactly one year prior and grossed 21 mil in its opening wknd - and nearly 11 mil more domestically overall.

try again.
9:54AM on 01/26/2011
What a stupid idea.

If the movie gets nominated for the most awards, I think you have a pretty good film on your hands that DOESN"T need to be changed.

The Weinstein's are idiots.
What a stupid idea.

If the movie gets nominated for the most awards, I think you have a pretty good film on your hands that DOESN"T need to be changed.

The Weinstein's are idiots.
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9:50AM on 01/26/2011
I personally thought it was an incredible, uplifting film, but maybe no one in the U.S. is seeing your movie because...no one in the U.S. gives a shit about the subject of your movie.
I personally thought it was an incredible, uplifting film, but maybe no one in the U.S. is seeing your movie because...no one in the U.S. gives a shit about the subject of your movie.
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12:02PM on 01/26/2011
its in the top 5 at the box office. you people. lol.
its in the top 5 at the box office. you people. lol.
9:47AM on 01/26/2011
The MPAA giving this an R to begin with was ridiculous, the few scenes with swearing are hardly gratuitous. The scene adds to the narrative and cutting that out for a cash grab is absurd.

This may have worked at getting extra money for films like Bruno, where the plot is minimal and the film relies more on the events in between...but I can't see it working here.

Totally agree with you Sampson on 'it couldn't possibly be because the English are slightly more interested in a film about the
The MPAA giving this an R to begin with was ridiculous, the few scenes with swearing are hardly gratuitous. The scene adds to the narrative and cutting that out for a cash grab is absurd.

This may have worked at getting extra money for films like Bruno, where the plot is minimal and the film relies more on the events in between...but I can't see it working here.

Totally agree with you Sampson on 'it couldn't possibly be because the English are slightly more interested in a film about the British Monarchy' just as any American would be more inclined to see JFK, W., World Trade Centre (not intentionally naming Oliver Stone films) than a Brit. People often favour their own history.
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9:34AM on 01/26/2011

Seriously?

This movie was fantastic as is...

It depresses me that this is the industry I want to get into when I read ridiculous things like this.
This movie was fantastic as is...

It depresses me that this is the industry I want to get into when I read ridiculous things like this.
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9:25AM on 01/26/2011
Hahaha, this story made my day :)
Hahaha, this story made my day :)
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9:24AM on 01/26/2011
For every good thing the Weinsteins have done for (indie)cinema they pull a jackass move like this.

I still haven't seen this, but I'll make sure to catch it before it's butchered.
For every good thing the Weinsteins have done for (indie)cinema they pull a jackass move like this.

I still haven't seen this, but I'll make sure to catch it before it's butchered.
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9:20AM on 01/26/2011
look at that stupid ass picture. pisses me off every time i see it. DOWN WITH PHOTOSHOP
look at that stupid ass picture. pisses me off every time i see it. DOWN WITH PHOTOSHOP
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9:17AM on 01/26/2011
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. No kids who are 15 - 16 or younger and want to see this movie can't because it's rated R. They can go with their parents. The idea that there is a group of highschoolers at their local mall on Friday and they think "damn, can't see the regal movie about a speech from 70+ years ago because it's rated R" is laughable.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. No kids who are 15 - 16 or younger and want to see this movie can't because it's rated R. They can go with their parents. The idea that there is a group of highschoolers at their local mall on Friday and they think "damn, can't see the regal movie about a speech from 70+ years ago because it's rated R" is laughable.
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9:08AM on 01/26/2011
More training montage scenes for sure. On a beach.
More training montage scenes for sure. On a beach.
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