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X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)

Director: Brett Ratner
Stars: Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen

When the government discovers a cure for mutation, Jean Grey is resurrected as the dangerously powerful Phoenix, and Magneto wages a final war against humankind, the X-Men must battle an overload of forgettable characters and conflicting storylines.

People always cite SPIDER-MAN 3 as an example of a movie being overstuffed with too many characters and plot points. Have they not seen X-MEN:THE LAST STAND? This festering ass pimple on the mutant franchise makes Sam Raimi's last superhero movie look like a Terrence Malick film.


The unrated cut featured the original subplot about Beast's struggle with Tourette's.

Normally I would blame Brett Ratner for, well everything. But LAST STAND had a famously troubled pre-production before he even came onboard, starting with the loss of Bryan Singer and his creative team to SUPERMAN RETURNS. Regardless, Fox announced a May 2006 release date despite having no director attached. They eventually hired Matthew Vaughn, only to have him drop out as well. By the time The Rat was brought in with less than a year left, I suspect the entire movie was already designed, prepped and ready to go. In this case, the blame falls on the writers for one of the sloppiest screenplays ever filmed.

From the opening, which features creepy, digitally airbrushed versions of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen (and a credit sequence that zooms in to Angel's gaping wing wound), there's just so much wrong with this movie that I can't even form a coherent thinkings about it. So here's a list of some of the reasons why X-MEN: THE LAST STAND blows goats:


The sex tape Colossus made with his girlfriend was in no way sexy.

Too many plots. Singer did a great job setting up the Dark Phoenix saga at the end of X2, but of course that epic storyline isn't enough for one movie. If I were to list out all the stuff that happens in this film, you would laugh that someone thought it could all mesh in to a single, cohesive plot. The result is utter nonsense, without any development, thematic layers or even basic narrative connective tissue. It's almost as if the studio realized, "Oh crap, we put the word 'last' in the title. We better shove in as much comic book stuff as we can: Dark Phoenix, the cure, the final mutant-human showdown, a love triangle Hell, let's throw in a Sentinel to shut those nerds up!"

Too many characters. Along with all those storylines, the script also introduces an absurd number of new mutants to the already massive cast and has no idea how to balance them. Everyone except for franchise darling Hugh Jackman is relegated to essentially cameo status. While part of the writers' solution is to start killing off characters for no reason (see below), their other tactic is just terrible writing that ignores all character development and motivation. Formerly important team members like Rogue are literally written out of the story because the script has no idea what to do with them. Storm, though inadvertently given a leader role on paper, is actually less memorable than in the previous films. And much anticipated new mutant Angel is in the movie for maybe three scenes. His conflict with his father, the centerpiece of the cure plot, solely consists of the ashamed dad trying to fix his son in one scene, only to later be saved in another by the very mutant powers he despised. That's it. It's like the writers didn't even bother to elaborate on their outline note cards.


"Why yes, I do look like Optimus Prime's penis."

Killing Cyclops off screen. Granted, Scott Summers was never truly done justice as the leader of the X-Men in the first two movies, but he still deserved better than to be vaporized off camera in the first act. As Jean Grey/Phoenix's love interest, this should've been the entry where his character finally gets to shine. The writers tried to say they did it to set the dramatic stakes (ala WRATH OF KHAN), but sadly we can all surmise the truthCyclops gets offed this way because they were grumpy that James Marsden chose Singer's side by appearing in SUPERMAN RETURNS.

Professor X. Charles Xavier is a total dick in this movie. It's such a bizarre choice and Patrick Stewart is such a great actor that I almost like it. Instead of the brilliant, sensible mentor we know and love, THE LAST STAND's Professor X has been psychically controlling and manipulating Jean Grey since she was a kid and essentially taking away her free will. He's childish ("I dont have to explain myself to you!") and spiteful ("What have you done? I warned you!") and thenlike Cyclopshe also gets vaporized by Phoneix midway through! And for some reason right before he bites it, he turns to Logan and gives him what might be the creepiest smile ever captured on film, as if he's saying "This is your fault, asshole." (The impact of losing arguably the series' most important character is felt for one scene before they cut to Iceman and Kitty Pryde ice skating.)


Smugness Engage.

The Brotherhood. Magneto is also a dick in this movie, mainly because he immediately abandons Mystique as soon as she gets hits by the cure while protecting him, literally leaving her naked and alone on the floor. (Another way the script writes out a major character.) However, his entire Brotherhood is laughable this time out. His new recruits include Porcupine Man, who is only dangerous if you let him hug you, and Vinnie Jones in a rubber muscle suit as The Juggernaut. And yes, he does say "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"probably the first time an Internet parody video has dictated dialogue in a Hollywood blockbuster. Best of all, the Brotherhood hides out by camping in tents in the woods. Their evil lair looks like the cover of an L.L. Bean catalog.


Embrace me. I dare you!

The unnecessary love triangle. Ellen Page was hot off the success of HARD CANDY at the time, but she was completely wrong for Kitty Prydemainly because she looks eight years old and Shawn Ashmore and Anna Paquin are clearly in their mid to late 20s. I don't even know if this counts as a love triangle: Rogue sees her boyfriend spending time with another girl at the beginning of the movie, gets mad and leaves without telling him. So Iceman spends the rest of the movie with Kitty Pryde, growing closer emotionally and fighting alongside each other in the finale. Then in the last minute of the movie, Rogue comes back and is like "I got the cure, so I'm no longer a mutant but I'll stay at this school for mutants. Now you can love me!" Who am I supposed to root for here? It would be easier if they just killed off these three characters too.

The lack of action. Aside from the brief Danger Room training sequence, a short fight in the woods and Jean Grey redecorating a house with Professor X particles, there are zero scenes of supposed excitement until the big finale. And this movie cost over $200 million to make.


Vin Diesel's cameo was kept top secret.

The finale. For some reason, the government is keeping their mutant cure (a young boy named Leech whose mutant power is to kill other mutant powers) on Alcatraz Island because it's the country's most secure location, despite being a well-known tourist attraction open to the public. Magneto's big plan is to move the Golden Gate Bridge so his mutant minions can walk to the island and kill the boy, giving the X-Men plenty of time to come in and fight them off in a big, horribly executed final showdown. This might be a little picky, but couldn't you find a better way to destroy the facility then sending in your goons, Magneto? You just moved the freaking Golden Gate Bridge. Pick up something heavy and drop it on the building.


"My mutant power is sadness."

Jean Grey/Dark Phoenix. Oh yeah, she's in the movie too. I forgot. Phoenix zaps a couple people in the first act, but beside that she literally spends the entire movie just standing around. Even throughout the final battle she just stands there in the background until everything is finished and the script has room for her. At that point she just starts zapping people again, prompting Wolverine to come in and save her because apparently he's the only actual hero in these movies. So instead of the touching moment in the comics where Jean decides to sacrifice herself to save everyone, we get to see Wolverine cry as he stabs her to death. Man, if only he had been standing in a literal stockpile of vaccines that cured people of their mutant ailments!


Ta-da! It's crap!

Even the film's final moments manage to be filled with stupidity, like world famous terrorist Magneto sitting out in a public park or the X-Men inviting the mutant cure kid to attend their school and hang around other mutants all day. Some of this may sound bad in an entertaining way, but just thinking about how horribly this movie screwed up the promise of X2 and left the franchise in ruins save for spinoffs and prequels, just makes me sad and angry. Good luck fixing all this, DAYS OF FUTURE PAST!

The best of Juggernaut's Oscar-worthy dialogue.

This greatest hits montage includes Wolverine kicking nuts, the world's greatest security guard, and laughable emotional moments.


Somewhere John Stamos is crying in to a pillow.


Take a last stand against quality filmmaking! Buy this movie here!

Take a shot or drink every time:
  • Someone gets vaporized
  • Someone does something out of character
  • Something happens that doesn't follow continuity with other X-Men films
  • Hugh Jackman looks goofy in his costume
  • Porcupine Man shows his quills
  • Juggernaut says something stupid
Double shot if:
  • The Fastball Special is achieved

Thanks to Eric and Johnny for suggesting this week's movie!

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Extra Tidbit: When I visited the set of X:MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST last year, writer Simon Kinberg said he was using the time travel elements of that film to "right some of the wrongs we might have done in X3." Fingers crossed.
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7:58AM on 05/22/2014
As good as Days of Future Past should be, the fact that they have to make a movie to make up for their mistakes is my mind is unforgivable and this movie is the pure example of if Hollywood knows they'll make money, they don't care about the quality. Lauren Schuler Donner and Kevin Feige, no matter what movies they produced after this, X Men Last Stand cannot be forgiven.
As good as Days of Future Past should be, the fact that they have to make a movie to make up for their mistakes is my mind is unforgivable and this movie is the pure example of if Hollywood knows they'll make money, they don't care about the quality. Lauren Schuler Donner and Kevin Feige, no matter what movies they produced after this, X Men Last Stand cannot be forgiven.
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1:01AM on 05/22/2014
If only Juggernaut has instead said, "I've had it with these muthafuckin' snakes on this muthafuckin' plane!"
If only Juggernaut has instead said, "I've had it with these muthafuckin' snakes on this muthafuckin' plane!"
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5:27PM on 05/21/2014
Words cannot describe how excited I was with the promise of a Dark Phoenix story after seeing that flaming bird under the water in X2....and words cannot describe how disappointed I was when I saw Last Stand and what they did with it. Totally agree with every point in this article.
Words cannot describe how excited I was with the promise of a Dark Phoenix story after seeing that flaming bird under the water in X2....and words cannot describe how disappointed I was when I saw Last Stand and what they did with it. Totally agree with every point in this article.
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4:30PM on 05/21/2014
While it has a lot of problems, I think it's a fun film, with some good action (the house scene it's great, and also Wolverine in the woods) and definitely much better than Origins. I read comics, but I'm not the guy who knows every detail, so I enjoyed this one. Anyway I consider X1, X2, First Class like 9/10 and Wolverine 8/10. This one it's just fun (6.5/10). Origins is bad. And I hope DOFP will be one of the best.
While it has a lot of problems, I think it's a fun film, with some good action (the house scene it's great, and also Wolverine in the woods) and definitely much better than Origins. I read comics, but I'm not the guy who knows every detail, so I enjoyed this one. Anyway I consider X1, X2, First Class like 9/10 and Wolverine 8/10. This one it's just fun (6.5/10). Origins is bad. And I hope DOFP will be one of the best.
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3:34PM on 05/21/2014
i down right hated this movie felt messy compared to the last 2 and killing off characters pissed me off
i down right hated this movie felt messy compared to the last 2 and killing off characters pissed me off
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3:19PM on 05/21/2014

LOL

I totally agree with the Professor X being a dick. I remember watching the movie and all of a sudden P-X is looking at Wolverine and giving him the whole "HOW DARE YOU!!!! I DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHIT TO YOU, Chortle Chortle Chortle" and I was thinking whoaaaaaaa professor X calm down, why you being a total dick right now?


anyways Also Soloist, How can you think Spiderman 3 is better than this. While this is just bad on story telling level. Spiderman is bad in terms of cring worthy
I totally agree with the Professor X being a dick. I remember watching the movie and all of a sudden P-X is looking at Wolverine and giving him the whole "HOW DARE YOU!!!! I DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHIT TO YOU, Chortle Chortle Chortle" and I was thinking whoaaaaaaa professor X calm down, why you being a total dick right now?


anyways Also Soloist, How can you think Spiderman 3 is better than this. While this is just bad on story telling level. Spiderman is bad in terms of cring worthy dialogue, scenes, moments, music, acting, everything. im at work so I cant go on youtube, but theres a video called everything wrong with spiderman 3, (its not a cinemasins video) and every point they bring up, is a nightmare to watch.
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3:02PM on 05/21/2014
Oh man where to start. With the classy X-Men 1 and how much the bar was raised in X2, surely Last Stand would be the best, aaaah not so much. X3 wasn't beyond terrible, but it's bad in every sense of the word. I could write a comment all day about why this ruined the trilogy, but the article was beautifully written, agree with every point.
Oh man where to start. With the classy X-Men 1 and how much the bar was raised in X2, surely Last Stand would be the best, aaaah not so much. X3 wasn't beyond terrible, but it's bad in every sense of the word. I could write a comment all day about why this ruined the trilogy, but the article was beautifully written, agree with every point.
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2:57PM on 05/21/2014

5/10.

Most of those problems would've been solved if they had just answered one question: "Are we going to make a final episode?".
Most of those problems would've been solved if they had just answered one question: "Are we going to make a final episode?".
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1:30PM on 05/21/2014

Too many directors

The problem with the film seemed to be that they had no less than three different directors on board who all seemed to want to do different things; it was as if they were still frantically building the ship after it had left port. One director wanted to make a sport fishing boat, the other was going for a cruise ship, and by the time Ratner came on board, he was trying to make it into a yacht for the race to the release date. I've never hated the film, but it's always come off to me as more of
The problem with the film seemed to be that they had no less than three different directors on board who all seemed to want to do different things; it was as if they were still frantically building the ship after it had left port. One director wanted to make a sport fishing boat, the other was going for a cruise ship, and by the time Ratner came on board, he was trying to make it into a yacht for the race to the release date. I've never hated the film, but it's always come off to me as more of a cookoff reel of really cool moments that everyone wanted to see, as opposed to a continuation/finale of the story set by the first two. I'm sure they thought it might be the last of the X-films, so they jammed in as much comic fan service as they could: "fully iced" Iceman vs. Pyro, Phoenix wreaking havoc, Colossus doing the fastball special (with Sentinels!), and what amounts to extended cameos of mutants that we've wanted to see (Kitty Pride, Multiple Man, Juggernaut, Archangel, etc.). It had some really nice moments, though: Grammar nailed it as Beast, the final confrontation when Wolverine has to kill Jean was pretty badass, and Famke Janssen was terrifying as Phoenix, given what she had to work with. And I disagree with the article in regards to Storm; I was actually pretty satisfied that they finally gave her character something to do for this one.

And for all the flack about Juggernaut's scenes, "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" got the biggest reaction from an audience that I've ever heard in a theatre. People were actually quoting that video in the theatre before the film started, not knowing it was in the film, and when he finally said it, everyone went bananas. Ah, memories.
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1:27PM on 05/21/2014

Lets enjoy the movie for what it is....

Too many plots? There's really just 2, and would you really want a whole 2 hour movie only about the cure? Too many characters? So Magneto's army should of been made up of just dozens of random mutants? Mad that Scott and Xavier where killed? Do you realize that even in the comics there where times where Scott and the professor were believe to be dead? Yes the movie has flaws but lets just enjoy it for the popcorn flick that it is and not nitpick over the accuracy to the comics then turn
Too many plots? There's really just 2, and would you really want a whole 2 hour movie only about the cure? Too many characters? So Magneto's army should of been made up of just dozens of random mutants? Mad that Scott and Xavier where killed? Do you realize that even in the comics there where times where Scott and the professor were believe to be dead? Yes the movie has flaws but lets just enjoy it for the popcorn flick that it is and not nitpick over the accuracy to the comics then turn around and say it has too many characters when the comics are full of different characters.
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12:04PM on 05/21/2014

this is what happened to me.

X men 3: no expectations other than wanting to see special effects, fights, wolverine, mutants etc. End result is that i liked it and was entertained by the movie.

Spiderman 3: Very high expectations. Counted down the months/weeks/days to see it. Thought it was going to be beyond awesome, would have venom!!! etc etc. End result: hated it and still ticked off about it.
X men 3: no expectations other than wanting to see special effects, fights, wolverine, mutants etc. End result is that i liked it and was entertained by the movie.

Spiderman 3: Very high expectations. Counted down the months/weeks/days to see it. Thought it was going to be beyond awesome, would have venom!!! etc etc. End result: hated it and still ticked off about it.
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11:55AM on 05/21/2014
For 8 years, I try to understand why people bitch X-Men 3 to death, and consider X2 flawless. X2 is where Cyclops actually became a minor character instead of a lead, they already couldn't do anything with Rogue and Storm, and Jean's sacrifice is sooo forced (Why? There was Iceman! He could have easily frozen the water!!!).
For 8 years, I try to understand why people bitch X-Men 3 to death, and consider X2 flawless. X2 is where Cyclops actually became a minor character instead of a lead, they already couldn't do anything with Rogue and Storm, and Jean's sacrifice is sooo forced (Why? There was Iceman! He could have easily frozen the water!!!).
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11:43AM on 05/21/2014
X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Retur of the Jedi, Terminator 3, they all suffered from too high expectations. They used to say "The sequel is never as good as the original". Now they say "The threequel is never as good as the first two." Last Stand has one really good thing about it: with Jean's hair vlit from behind it looks like it is on fire. That's cool.
X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Retur of the Jedi, Terminator 3, they all suffered from too high expectations. They used to say "The sequel is never as good as the original". Now they say "The threequel is never as good as the first two." Last Stand has one really good thing about it: with Jean's hair vlit from behind it looks like it is on fire. That's cool.
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11:31AM on 05/21/2014

My Favorite X-Men Film

This movie gets almost everything wrong, in all possible ways. But it's also the only entry in the series so far (including Wolvie's solo outings) to even attempt to have fun and a real sense of adventure. The first two really should have been called "Wolverine And Friends Wear Matrix Clothes", and they aged horribly. The less said about the cinematic crapfest of failure that is "First Class" the better (for all the stupid going on in "Last Stand", it ain't a damned ant hill compared to the
This movie gets almost everything wrong, in all possible ways. But it's also the only entry in the series so far (including Wolvie's solo outings) to even attempt to have fun and a real sense of adventure. The first two really should have been called "Wolverine And Friends Wear Matrix Clothes", and they aged horribly. The less said about the cinematic crapfest of failure that is "First Class" the better (for all the stupid going on in "Last Stand", it ain't a damned ant hill compared to the hokey bullshit of that inexplicably loved entry). Since this movie doesn't take itself so seriously, and already sucked, it aged into a beautifully hilarious camp classic, whereas the others looked dated by 2006.

Side note- at a bad movie party a few years ago, we watched this in French with Spanish subtitles, and it was great. The dub was so bad, and the subs went by so quickly- hilarious!
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12:06PM on 05/21/2014
First class has no sense of adventure?
First class has no sense of adventure?
12:24PM on 05/21/2014
Agree. First Class was by far the worst of any X-men movie. Forgettable actors, characters, dialogue, plot line. I forgot about that movie since the night we drove off from the theater and never thought about it a single time since.
Agree. First Class was by far the worst of any X-men movie. Forgettable actors, characters, dialogue, plot line. I forgot about that movie since the night we drove off from the theater and never thought about it a single time since.
11:25AM on 05/21/2014

Very Disappointing

But, I do give them props for casting Kelsey Grammar as Beast. Maybe not physically suited, but his face and voice are Hank McCoy, 100%.
Some people say that X-Men Origins: Wolverine was "at least better than Last Stand." I'm not sure I agree. I really hated Wolverine, but I was disappointed with this film. They both suck, but I feel like Origins was just beyond stupid.
But, I do give them props for casting Kelsey Grammar as Beast. Maybe not physically suited, but his face and voice are Hank McCoy, 100%.
Some people say that X-Men Origins: Wolverine was "at least better than Last Stand." I'm not sure I agree. I really hated Wolverine, but I was disappointed with this film. They both suck, but I feel like Origins was just beyond stupid.
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12:08PM on 05/21/2014
Oh man origins is absolutely terrible.
Oh man origins is absolutely terrible.
11:17AM on 05/21/2014
The only two good things about this were casting Kelsey Grammer as Beast (Matthew Vaughn's doing) and John Powell's score.
The only two good things about this were casting Kelsey Grammer as Beast (Matthew Vaughn's doing) and John Powell's score.
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11:13AM on 05/21/2014

Awfully good?

No just awful, this movie had maybe one good thing about it, BEAST, thats it, it was horrible for every reason mentioned above
No just awful, this movie had maybe one good thing about it, BEAST, thats it, it was horrible for every reason mentioned above
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10:38AM on 05/21/2014
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE REASON WHY CYCLOPS WAS KILLED. Following the production of this and SR, it seemed so obvious to me that they were punishing the character and the actor. With that said, X3 is without a doubt a poor film, but I don't think it's absolutely awful - more frustratingly mediocre when there's obvious potential. It's better than xmen origins tho
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE REASON WHY CYCLOPS WAS KILLED. Following the production of this and SR, it seemed so obvious to me that they were punishing the character and the actor. With that said, X3 is without a doubt a poor film, but I don't think it's absolutely awful - more frustratingly mediocre when there's obvious potential. It's better than xmen origins tho
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10:40AM on 05/21/2014
I haven't seen it since it came out in theatres tho so maybe it's a lot worse than I remember
I haven't seen it since it came out in theatres tho so maybe it's a lot worse than I remember
12:05PM on 05/21/2014
Tell me, why did they punish James Marsden/Cyclops in X2?
Tell me, why did they punish James Marsden/Cyclops in X2?
12:18PM on 05/21/2014
Ya that's true. Really none if the characters have really been executed well from the comics (maybe Prof X, Magneto, Beast at times). I like Hugh's Wolvie, but he's more of a grumpy hero than an anti-hero. I think the studio realized Hugh was a hit and let him be the leader. I remember cyclops being a bit of a douche in the comics (even in the comics now, or like 6 months ago, society hated him bc he killed prof x), but not 100% one. I think it came down to the studio felt wolverine would
Ya that's true. Really none if the characters have really been executed well from the comics (maybe Prof X, Magneto, Beast at times). I like Hugh's Wolvie, but he's more of a grumpy hero than an anti-hero. I think the studio realized Hugh was a hit and let him be the leader. I remember cyclops being a bit of a douche in the comics (even in the comics now, or like 6 months ago, society hated him bc he killed prof x), but not 100% one. I think it came down to the studio felt wolverine would sell the film more, and making cyclops a complete douche in X2 helps the love triangle story out a little. I think with films, it's really easier to choose one leader in movies like these (wether that's right or wrong or true to the comics). With that said I really hope cyclops is in apocalypse. Actually I've read he's for sure uhm....suppose to show up pretty soon. But I hope he's a major player in the next one. I guess he can't now, but I always liked the Aaron Taylor Johnson cyclops rumor.
12:19PM on 05/21/2014
They also wanted to show off Nightcrawler's cool shit
They also wanted to show off Nightcrawler's cool shit
10:29AM on 05/21/2014
It is awfully bad. The final showdown was okay but I really hate the Coincidental meeting of the movie. When Prof. X and the team visits Jean Grey's childhood home, then the next shot "Oh Hi Charles, It's me Magneto. What a coincident!". Then during the final showdown, Angel's father fell off the building and Angel came out of nowhere and swooped him to safety. And he's gone, that's it. Didn't even return to fight. What the hell?
It is awfully bad. The final showdown was okay but I really hate the Coincidental meeting of the movie. When Prof. X and the team visits Jean Grey's childhood home, then the next shot "Oh Hi Charles, It's me Magneto. What a coincident!". Then during the final showdown, Angel's father fell off the building and Angel came out of nowhere and swooped him to safety. And he's gone, that's it. Didn't even return to fight. What the hell?
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10:25AM on 05/21/2014
This movie was and still is total crap. As a die hard X-Men fan this was such a HUGE disappointment after the first two great films and this film utterly wasted and screwed to the Dark Phoenix storyline which should have been its own film or two.

But the film lost me completely when they decided to kill off Cyclops and Professor X. How the hell do you kill off the two most vital leaders of the X-Men, but keep someone as pointless at Rogue or Storm alive in this?? Just utter bullshit. I'm
This movie was and still is total crap. As a die hard X-Men fan this was such a HUGE disappointment after the first two great films and this film utterly wasted and screwed to the Dark Phoenix storyline which should have been its own film or two.

But the film lost me completely when they decided to kill off Cyclops and Professor X. How the hell do you kill off the two most vital leaders of the X-Men, but keep someone as pointless at Rogue or Storm alive in this?? Just utter bullshit. I'm just glad the franchise was able to correct itself after this mess with First Class, Wolverine 2, and Days of Future Past.

But after reading a couple of spoilers regarding Days of Future Past, this film doesn't piss me of off as it used to considering Singer has finally fixed the botched timeline due to the this film.
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10:50AM on 05/21/2014
Basically Days was made to undo all of Xmen 3. Hopefully from now on they will do things right.
Basically Days was made to undo all of Xmen 3. Hopefully from now on they will do things right.
10:18AM on 05/21/2014
The part that always bugged me was the change from day to night at the bridge.
The part that always bugged me was the change from day to night at the bridge.
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10:12AM on 05/21/2014
I don't think this is as terrible as everyone says it is. It's bad, but it's not the worst thing ever. I feel very similarly about Spider-Man 3. It's very messy and has its silly moments but there are some pretty fun sequences and Kelsey Grammer was a fantastic Beast.
I don't think this is as terrible as everyone says it is. It's bad, but it's not the worst thing ever. I feel very similarly about Spider-Man 3. It's very messy and has its silly moments but there are some pretty fun sequences and Kelsey Grammer was a fantastic Beast.
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10:28AM on 05/21/2014
Spider Man 3 is SO much better then this film. Spider Man 3 wasn't frustrating and didn't disappoint me.

It just tried to cram in too much at one time. The Last Stand on the other hand just felt like a slap in the face to us X-Men fans.

I will admit they Grammar as Beast was the best thing to come out of this film.
Spider Man 3 is SO much better then this film. Spider Man 3 wasn't frustrating and didn't disappoint me.

It just tried to cram in too much at one time. The Last Stand on the other hand just felt like a slap in the face to us X-Men fans.

I will admit they Grammar as Beast was the best thing to come out of this film.
10:30AM on 05/21/2014
Perhaps the only best thing about X-Men 3 is the first scene of the movie where the X team were training in the Danger Room and we get to see The Sentinel's head. That's it.
Perhaps the only best thing about X-Men 3 is the first scene of the movie where the X team were training in the Danger Room and we get to see The Sentinel's head. That's it.
10:55AM on 05/21/2014
Both of you raise really good points, but at the end of the day, when I re-watch X-Men: The Last Stand, I see a good movie unravelling and quickly coming apart, and am still able to bring myself to appreciate the potential and what could have been. I was genuinely disturbed by the scene of young Angel trying to cut out his own wings; I think that taps into the fear of being different that is a core theme of the series. If the film had focused on that sentiment instead of just blasting everybody
Both of you raise really good points, but at the end of the day, when I re-watch X-Men: The Last Stand, I see a good movie unravelling and quickly coming apart, and am still able to bring myself to appreciate the potential and what could have been. I was genuinely disturbed by the scene of young Angel trying to cut out his own wings; I think that taps into the fear of being different that is a core theme of the series. If the film had focused on that sentiment instead of just blasting everybody apart for no good reason, it would've worked.
11:04AM on 05/21/2014
It really could have been a great movie until they decide to include virtually every known X-Men's characters in the movie.
It really could have been a great movie until they decide to include virtually every known X-Men's characters in the movie.
12:28PM on 05/21/2014
I agree with you completely Jedd. I was really disappointed with X3, and it's certainly bad, but not awful. There's some good things about it. And Spidey 3 has lots of flaws too, but I think ppl really overreacted. It's also a disappointment, but ultimately it's a fairly average movie. I remember walking out of it and thinking, eh, not what I was hoping for but I enjoyed a lot of it. I place the new Godzilla with these kinds of movies (hear me out!) in that it has great cast and crew and
I agree with you completely Jedd. I was really disappointed with X3, and it's certainly bad, but not awful. There's some good things about it. And Spidey 3 has lots of flaws too, but I think ppl really overreacted. It's also a disappointment, but ultimately it's a fairly average movie. I remember walking out of it and thinking, eh, not what I was hoping for but I enjoyed a lot of it. I place the new Godzilla with these kinds of movies (hear me out!) in that it has great cast and crew and some incredible stuff in it and all the ingredients to be incredible, but ended up being frustrating a little better than average, with waisted potential. It's def better than X3. I'm not quite sure about spidey3. It's prolly better than that. But the weird thing to me is, tho despite reading a lot of feedback that's similar to mine, it seems like godzilla is being praised, or getting a pass, but Spider-Man 3 was just the worst movie ever. I guess a large part of that has to do with how amazing Spidey 2 is (not the amazing spider man 2!), and bad the last American godzilla film was
12:35PM on 05/21/2014
Yeah again right on. With all 3 movie there's so much promise in some scenes but then they just drop the ball to some extent and don't live up to the potential. To me those films are worse than movies like Epic Movies, or all the hunger games "knock offs," or the last Hercules. Movies that never had any potential to begin with really (though I didn't see hardly any if those movies I just mentioned.). Or how about this - ride along. Absolutely terrible. I don't think I even grinned. And
Yeah again right on. With all 3 movie there's so much promise in some scenes but then they just drop the ball to some extent and don't live up to the potential. To me those films are worse than movies like Epic Movies, or all the hunger games "knock offs," or the last Hercules. Movies that never had any potential to begin with really (though I didn't see hardly any if those movies I just mentioned.). Or how about this - ride along. Absolutely terrible. I don't think I even grinned. And it's clearly cinematically terrible. But to me, those other 3 films are worse bc they are frustrating bc they actually show promising scenes. Following the production of X3 and it wanting to show it had a bigger dick than Singer's SR (I mean, if they wanted to know how big Singer's dick was all they had to do was ask any of the male cast and crew on X1 and 2), I was really worried. But I remember the X3 trailer being AWESOME. With that said, I also remember the first FF movie - or the one with Jessica Alba - having an awesome trailer too
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