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Bane's Voice in The Dark Knight Rises: A Comparison

Jul. 31, 2012by: Niki Stephens

When we first heard Bane's voice in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES IMAX prologue, many had a hard time hearing the villain's voice behind his rather tight mask. The internet was set a blaze with fans who thought that Bane's unintelligible voice would drag down the credibility of the movie. I mean, this was made out to be a crisis. Nolanities stood strong through the whole thing.

When Warner Bros. got wind of Bane Voice Crisis 2011, they made no apologies:

Chris wants the audience to catch up and participate rather than push everything at them. He doesnt dumb things down. Youve got to pedal faster to keep up.

At this point, no one knew what the final product would be. Would Nolan have subtitles for Bane's dialogue? They should have known better. Would it be left as is? But when it came time to see the finished product, there were no dialogue issues. You could hear Hardy as Bane just as well as the other characters in the film. What happened? Sounds like some adjustments were made. A Daily Motion user posted a comparison of the prologue versus the actual scene in the film.

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9:14AM on 08/10/2012

The voice...

the stupid voice. How in God's name does a latino sound like a bad Sean Connery impersonator?
the stupid voice. How in God's name does a latino sound like a bad Sean Connery impersonator?
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5:39PM on 08/01/2012
Kinda surprised how many people actually enjoyed Bane's voice, and not just for comedic value. Yes, Hardy was very intimidating and kudos to Nolan for really using the camera angles to make this 5'10" dude look giant and imposing. His tone and whatever accent he was trying to imitate (clearly not a carribean, latin or romance language based accent) had me laughing so hard I forgot this guy was supposed to be a threat.
Kinda surprised how many people actually enjoyed Bane's voice, and not just for comedic value. Yes, Hardy was very intimidating and kudos to Nolan for really using the camera angles to make this 5'10" dude look giant and imposing. His tone and whatever accent he was trying to imitate (clearly not a carribean, latin or romance language based accent) had me laughing so hard I forgot this guy was supposed to be a threat.
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5:32PM on 08/03/2012
I agree, it was fun for a while but I think some people's stories of watching the movie are more interesting then the movie itself.
I agree, it was fun for a while but I think some people's stories of watching the movie are more interesting then the movie itself.
4:46PM on 08/01/2012

Sounds fine

The only thing that sounds different is that the background noise of the plane was reduced, other than that his voice is the same it just sounds louder because the background noise was reduced.
The only thing that sounds different is that the background noise of the plane was reduced, other than that his voice is the same it just sounds louder because the background noise was reduced.
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4:11PM on 08/01/2012
You could easily tell that Bane's voice was redubbed in the opening scene compared to the rest of the movie. The voice just blared over the speakers big time. I had hoped it wasn't like that the rest of the film & thankfully it wasn't. I had no problem understanding his voice.
You could easily tell that Bane's voice was redubbed in the opening scene compared to the rest of the movie. The voice just blared over the speakers big time. I had hoped it wasn't like that the rest of the film & thankfully it wasn't. I had no problem understanding his voice.
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1:38PM on 08/01/2012

Gimme a break...

They didn't use any ADR, they didn't redubb or rerecord anything. They shot Hardy's Dialogue through the sound boad and remixed it. Something they did with everything else in the scene as well. And to facebook reject, It doesn't matter who Hardy based the voice on, once the mixers get a hold of the audio they can make it sound like anything they want to. They can make Clint Eastwood sound like Mickey Mouse, I'm sure they have the ability to drop some of the low base out of Hardy's voice.
They didn't use any ADR, they didn't redubb or rerecord anything. They shot Hardy's Dialogue through the sound boad and remixed it. Something they did with everything else in the scene as well. And to facebook reject, It doesn't matter who Hardy based the voice on, once the mixers get a hold of the audio they can make it sound like anything they want to. They can make Clint Eastwood sound like Mickey Mouse, I'm sure they have the ability to drop some of the low base out of Hardy's voice. That is what they get paid for. If oyu listen to the way the dialogue is spoken, it is the sameline spoken with the same inflections.
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12:37PM on 08/01/2012
ITS OBVIOUS , ITS IAN MC KELLAN !!
ITS OBVIOUS , ITS IAN MC KELLAN !!
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11:57AM on 08/01/2012

It was intentional

I always assumed Nolan purposefully left a muffled voice in the prologue to cause more confusion, speculation and ultimately make it so us fanboys had a more difficult time figuring out what was being said. I thought it was a smart move and I was happy with Bane's voice in the finished film.
I always assumed Nolan purposefully left a muffled voice in the prologue to cause more confusion, speculation and ultimately make it so us fanboys had a more difficult time figuring out what was being said. I thought it was a smart move and I was happy with Bane's voice in the finished film.
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11:51AM on 08/01/2012

Bane

I think his voice was good, but I really liked the WAY Bane spoke. His unusual cadence.
I think his voice was good, but I really liked the WAY Bane spoke. His unusual cadence.
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10:42AM on 08/01/2012

Hearing =/= Intelligence

I loved the new voice. The old one was garbled and over-processed. I don't understand how cleaning up a garbage voice has anything to do with "dumbing it down." Since when has hearing and intelligence been linked? I'm a drummer who likes to go shooting - my hearing ain't great. Doesn't make me stupid. It just means that if the main villain of a movie is indecipherable for large chunks of the audience, it should be fixed. End of story.
I loved the new voice. The old one was garbled and over-processed. I don't understand how cleaning up a garbage voice has anything to do with "dumbing it down." Since when has hearing and intelligence been linked? I'm a drummer who likes to go shooting - my hearing ain't great. Doesn't make me stupid. It just means that if the main villain of a movie is indecipherable for large chunks of the audience, it should be fixed. End of story.
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10:38AM on 08/01/2012

Eh...

After listening to the prologue, I honestly didn't think his voice was that bad. It was just hard to hear him over everything else that was going on. In the final cut, his voice boomed. I originally thought that they'd just made the original dialogue louder, but it would make sense that they redubbed it as well. To be a hundred percent honest, I'm a little disappointed they did. There's not a huge difference, but I preferred Hardy's delivery of some of the lines better in the prologue.
After listening to the prologue, I honestly didn't think his voice was that bad. It was just hard to hear him over everything else that was going on. In the final cut, his voice boomed. I originally thought that they'd just made the original dialogue louder, but it would make sense that they redubbed it as well. To be a hundred percent honest, I'm a little disappointed they did. There's not a huge difference, but I preferred Hardy's delivery of some of the lines better in the prologue. Either way, it was still an impressive film, and another great performance from Hardy.
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9:49AM on 08/01/2012
Thanks for linking the article to AfterTheCut.com
Thanks for linking the article to AfterTheCut.com
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9:40AM on 08/01/2012
Thought his voice was fine, and the first time I saw the film, there were only two lines I didn't catch. The rest was perfectly clear. Problem is, younger audiences today are trained to use their eyes, not their ears. I'm a teacher and I see it everyday in class: if I just say something, even if I highlight how important it is, 90% of the students will ask me again, right after I've said it, what I just said. Because of the internet, emails and texts, people lack practice actually listening
Thought his voice was fine, and the first time I saw the film, there were only two lines I didn't catch. The rest was perfectly clear. Problem is, younger audiences today are trained to use their eyes, not their ears. I'm a teacher and I see it everyday in class: if I just say something, even if I highlight how important it is, 90% of the students will ask me again, right after I've said it, what I just said. Because of the internet, emails and texts, people lack practice actually listening (not hearing - two different things). So when something depends on listening (Bane's voice, quite a few of the plot elements or set-up dialogue), they complain they don't understand. And this may sound ridiculous (until you've seen it happen), but younger audiences today just don't have the same capacity to handle complex sentences or long speeches. They get bored in a matter of seconds and tune out. A film built on one liners (like the Avengers - Whedon's forte is one-line statements) is easier for younger audiences to process. Not knocking Avengers, I loved the hell out of it. Just making a point.
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9:35AM on 08/01/2012

I thought the orignal voice-

was difficult to understand due to the "ambient" sound design in the plane scene, which would be loud. As Bane's introduction to the audience it was important and I think rightly changed, but there were many instances afterward (such as Bane's proclamation to the people of Gotham) when the voice was so over-amplified it bordered on camp.
was difficult to understand due to the "ambient" sound design in the plane scene, which would be loud. As Bane's introduction to the audience it was important and I think rightly changed, but there were many instances afterward (such as Bane's proclamation to the people of Gotham) when the voice was so over-amplified it bordered on camp.
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7:04AM on 08/01/2012

I found it very distracting.

Took me right out of the film. Especially when it sounded as though it was amplified way too loudly. Which was often.
Took me right out of the film. Especially when it sounded as though it was amplified way too loudly. Which was often.
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5:56AM on 08/01/2012

And.......??

Honestly, who cares? So they fixed it and did some ADR to it. It's an awesome voice and I love the hell out of it. Instead of being upset that they fixed it, be happy they did.
Honestly, who cares? So they fixed it and did some ADR to it. It's an awesome voice and I love the hell out of it. Instead of being upset that they fixed it, be happy they did.
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5:45AM on 08/01/2012

Voice

I thought his voice was like James Mason.
I was surprised at the end when this powerful villain turns out to be Marion's 'help'.
I thought his voice was like James Mason.
I was surprised at the end when this powerful villain turns out to be Marion's 'help'.
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5:09AM on 08/01/2012

What are the audio sources for the comparison?

'Cause if these are just bootleg in-theatre recordings then this is wasting everyone's time.
'Cause if these are just bootleg in-theatre recordings then this is wasting everyone's time.
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9:18AM on 08/01/2012
I thought the same thing, unless they were recorded with the same device and in the same position, there's going to be differences. Plus differing theaters have different qualities (or lack thereof) of audio and lighting, since most corporate multi screen theaters having incompetent 20 year olds on the upkeep.
I thought the same thing, unless they were recorded with the same device and in the same position, there's going to be differences. Plus differing theaters have different qualities (or lack thereof) of audio and lighting, since most corporate multi screen theaters having incompetent 20 year olds on the upkeep.
4:41AM on 08/01/2012
I think the first one sounds way better. But the voice they ended up with sounds ok too...
I think the first one sounds way better. But the voice they ended up with sounds ok too...
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4:19AM on 08/01/2012
he sounds like darryl hammond on SNL when he does sean connery on jepeordy....
he sounds like darryl hammond on SNL when he does sean connery on jepeordy....
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3:21AM on 08/01/2012

i liked the first

I honestly like the first and you can tell that these lines are done again by Hardy, which bums me out. I don't like sloppy seconds.
I honestly like the first and you can tell that these lines are done again by Hardy, which bums me out. I don't like sloppy seconds.
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2:26AM on 08/01/2012
Loved his voice, appreciated the improvements, no complaints with the final product. I think this is a good article to be the final word on the subject so we can move on to wondering what Nolan will do next!
Loved his voice, appreciated the improvements, no complaints with the final product. I think this is a good article to be the final word on the subject so we can move on to wondering what Nolan will do next!
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2:21AM on 08/01/2012

Duh

Talk about an article about the obvious, but I guess it needed to be done as this movie was dumbed down for the average audience member, they probably would not have noticed this in the film.
Talk about an article about the obvious, but I guess it needed to be done as this movie was dumbed down for the average audience member, they probably would not have noticed this in the film.
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12:24AM on 08/01/2012
I read somewhere that Tom Hardy based the voice off of an irish bare knuckle boxing champion named Bartley Gorman. i looked the guy up on youtube though and I think thats a bull crap story. It still sounds like Sean Connery.
I read somewhere that Tom Hardy based the voice off of an irish bare knuckle boxing champion named Bartley Gorman. i looked the guy up on youtube though and I think thats a bull crap story. It still sounds like Sean Connery.
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10:48AM on 08/01/2012
Yeah... I don't know. I read that too, but Bartley Gorman was a gypsy, and sounded a lot closer to Pitt's character in Snatch, than Hardy's in TDKR. I'm not calling Hardy a liar... Maybe he saw and worked from footage I haven't seen, but I'm happy with the result none the less. Gorman was a hard guy to understand. As a matter of fact, I woulda had to have watched the movie twice just to catch a fraction of his dialogue. I think it's more likely that Hardy based his character on Gorman.
Yeah... I don't know. I read that too, but Bartley Gorman was a gypsy, and sounded a lot closer to Pitt's character in Snatch, than Hardy's in TDKR. I'm not calling Hardy a liar... Maybe he saw and worked from footage I haven't seen, but I'm happy with the result none the less. Gorman was a hard guy to understand. As a matter of fact, I woulda had to have watched the movie twice just to catch a fraction of his dialogue. I think it's more likely that Hardy based his character on Gorman. His mannerisms and movements, as opposed to the voice.
12:24AM on 08/01/2012

Nolan caved in...

He caved in to the pressure. That would explain why everything was explained to us. Sure the movie left no stone un-turned but I must contest what Warner Bros said in that statement and say that it seemed dumbed down. From the dubbing of Hardy's voice to the unnecessarily drawn out monologue of Cotillard in the third act to having us believe that JGL's character new Bruce's identity, Gordon would not have sustained injuries in the crashed truck whereas Talia died, Bruce would get back to Gotham
He caved in to the pressure. That would explain why everything was explained to us. Sure the movie left no stone un-turned but I must contest what Warner Bros said in that statement and say that it seemed dumbed down. From the dubbing of Hardy's voice to the unnecessarily drawn out monologue of Cotillard in the third act to having us believe that JGL's character new Bruce's identity, Gordon would not have sustained injuries in the crashed truck whereas Talia died, Bruce would get back to Gotham with not a Penny to his name from god knows where....the list goes on and on. Only dumbed down audiences swallow that....not Nolan's audience. He caved in when he got the negative press for Bane's voice and as the article says, we don't know what the final product was but I bet he tweaked other elements of his story so it would not "upset" or "confuse" people as well.
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1:28AM on 08/01/2012
Great to know there are JoBlo readers who can watch a film objectively. Absolutely agree with your criticisms, although I think the only blame Warners should shoulder is in giving the Nolans free rein over script and direction.
Great to know there are JoBlo readers who can watch a film objectively. Absolutely agree with your criticisms, although I think the only blame Warners should shoulder is in giving the Nolans free rein over script and direction.
1:51AM on 08/01/2012
So the real message is--only dumb audiences liked this movie. Not the REAL NOLAN FANS. Sure, buddy.
So the real message is--only dumb audiences liked this movie. Not the REAL NOLAN FANS. Sure, buddy.
12:05AM on 08/01/2012
Really liked his voice, thought it was a good attribute for the character.
Really liked his voice, thought it was a good attribute for the character.
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11:18PM on 07/31/2012
Don't have as much issue with the sound of Bane's voice as much as I do with a character that was from the Caribbean in the comics, from the Middle East or India or somewhere like that in the movie... but somehow sounds like Sean Connery had sex with Deckard Caine (from Diablo). His voice was just distracting.
Don't have as much issue with the sound of Bane's voice as much as I do with a character that was from the Caribbean in the comics, from the Middle East or India or somewhere like that in the movie... but somehow sounds like Sean Connery had sex with Deckard Caine (from Diablo). His voice was just distracting.
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11:17PM on 07/31/2012

had no problems with the voice

i like to picture Krang doing his best Connery impression while wearing Vader's helmet
i like to picture Krang doing his best Connery impression while wearing Vader's helmet
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11:16PM on 07/31/2012
I like Bane's voice that's in the movie now. Easier to understand.
I like Bane's voice that's in the movie now. Easier to understand.
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11:10PM on 07/31/2012
Definitely prefer the IMAX prologue, sounds more mechanical and weak.
Definitely prefer the IMAX prologue, sounds more mechanical and weak.
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10:57PM on 07/31/2012
Great they fixed it up. I got chills during the scene where Bane and Batman first meet. Understood every word and it was badass.
Great they fixed it up. I got chills during the scene where Bane and Batman first meet. Understood every word and it was badass.
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10:47PM on 07/31/2012
I think his voice was absolutely perfect in the final product, so I'm glad they did this. For me, it really brought it to the fore that Bane is a character who possesses not only great strength, but also a great mind. So he sounds like a smarmy British Bond villain or something. Love it.
I think his voice was absolutely perfect in the final product, so I'm glad they did this. For me, it really brought it to the fore that Bane is a character who possesses not only great strength, but also a great mind. So he sounds like a smarmy British Bond villain or something. Love it.
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10:44PM on 07/31/2012

OF COAARRSSEE!

"But we are initiated, aren't we Bruce? Members of the League of Shadows. And you betrayed us!"
Hardy killed it on that line. As well as his entire monologue in the Pit. Sound mixing was perfect for those parts.
"But we are initiated, aren't we Bruce? Members of the League of Shadows. And you betrayed us!"
Hardy killed it on that line. As well as his entire monologue in the Pit. Sound mixing was perfect for those parts.
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12:04AM on 08/01/2012
Completely agree both of those parts were awesome.
Completely agree both of those parts were awesome.
12:10AM on 08/01/2012
Really??? I couldn't understand 90% percent of what he said in the Pit.
Really??? I couldn't understand 90% percent of what he said in the Pit.
10:39PM on 07/31/2012
Ahhh no shit. Anyone who saw the Dark Knight Rises knows they altered his voice.
Ahhh no shit. Anyone who saw the Dark Knight Rises knows they altered his voice.
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12:12AM on 08/01/2012
There was even a post here on Joblo that Nolan agreed to re-dub after saying he wouldn't.
There was even a post here on Joblo that Nolan agreed to re-dub after saying he wouldn't.
10:08PM on 07/31/2012

classic misdirection

seriously, how could this be anything but intentional? It allowed Noland to keep the audience in the dark somewhat - even while giving them a 10 minute teaser. The concern only helped amp up attention. Clearly he could be redubbed as much as needed with that setup. I think it was a way to build up interest and tension, and I'm willing to bet the audio came out exactly as Noland intended from the start.
seriously, how could this be anything but intentional? It allowed Noland to keep the audience in the dark somewhat - even while giving them a 10 minute teaser. The concern only helped amp up attention. Clearly he could be redubbed as much as needed with that setup. I think it was a way to build up interest and tension, and I'm willing to bet the audio came out exactly as Noland intended from the start.
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10:50PM on 07/31/2012
are you serious? lol
are you serious? lol
12:48AM on 08/01/2012
That's some cutting wit you've got there.
That's some cutting wit you've got there.
3:27PM on 08/01/2012
wasn't trying to be witty at all, I'm just shocked that someone can actually type and believe that with a straight face. But all the power to ya if you can haha
wasn't trying to be witty at all, I'm just shocked that someone can actually type and believe that with a straight face. But all the power to ya if you can haha
10:06PM on 07/31/2012
I liked the way he says "Of course" better in the original dub.
I liked the way he says "Of course" better in the original dub.
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9:25PM on 07/31/2012

But I still had a hard time...

Understanding him and I was to busy laughing half the time since he sounded like connery LMFAOO
Understanding him and I was to busy laughing half the time since he sounded like connery LMFAOO
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11:40PM on 07/31/2012
Indeed, he did sound like Connery. LOL.
Indeed, he did sound like Connery. LOL.
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8:54PM on 07/31/2012

It's better than what it was for sure

But I'm still not a huge supporter of his voice in general. Evenwiththe redoubling it seems it came out higher pitched the what Hardy was originally speaking. The voicetht comes out of his mouth just doesn't match up with the face of Bane, IMO. I as TDKR twice now, and will say it wasn't as annoying the second time around, but I wish they could've made it deeper.
But I'm still not a huge supporter of his voice in general. Evenwiththe redoubling it seems it came out higher pitched the what Hardy was originally speaking. The voicetht comes out of his mouth just doesn't match up with the face of Bane, IMO. I as TDKR twice now, and will say it wasn't as annoying the second time around, but I wish they could've made it deeper.
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4:23PM on 08/01/2012
LMFAO how the hell is a voice suppossed to match up with a face? Damn you fanboys will bitch about anything lol. Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard.
LMFAO how the hell is a voice suppossed to match up with a face? Damn you fanboys will bitch about anything lol. Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard.
8:50PM on 07/31/2012
Banes voice is awesome.
Banes voice is awesome.
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8:33PM on 07/31/2012
It sounded fantastic in the final film.
It sounded fantastic in the final film.
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8:32PM on 07/31/2012

Geezzum crow

Can we just drop the whole dumb ass thread about Bane's voice. His voice was excellent. The movie was excellent. Batman is excellent.
Can we just drop the whole dumb ass thread about Bane's voice. His voice was excellent. The movie was excellent. Batman is excellent.
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10:07PM on 07/31/2012
I don't see your point, a lot of people didn't like it or found it hard to understand still -- nothing wrong with that.
I don't see your point, a lot of people didn't like it or found it hard to understand still -- nothing wrong with that.
8:27PM on 07/31/2012

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Good change in my opinion. Not being able to understand him would have taken me out of the movie more so. I ended up really loving TDKR despite its problems. Bane had some of the best lines of villain dialogue, If they kept Bane's voice the way it was in the prologue I can honestly say I would have hated the movie.
Good change in my opinion. Not being able to understand him would have taken me out of the movie more so. I ended up really loving TDKR despite its problems. Bane had some of the best lines of villain dialogue, If they kept Bane's voice the way it was in the prologue I can honestly say I would have hated the movie.
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8:19PM on 07/31/2012
I personally am glad they cleaned up his audio. It would have been VERY frustrating to sit through that movie and instead of be immersed in the movie have to focus extra hard to try and cipher every other word Bane was saying!

I love the voice Hardy used as bane, glad I could understand it!
I personally am glad they cleaned up his audio. It would have been VERY frustrating to sit through that movie and instead of be immersed in the movie have to focus extra hard to try and cipher every other word Bane was saying!

I love the voice Hardy used as bane, glad I could understand it!
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