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Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice calls for a 15-foot Superman

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Are we used to the title yet? Yes? No? Let's move along! A few weeks ago, a photo appeared online of a suit for our titular Kryptonian hero. There wasn't much context to go with the picture, so speculation began on whether or not it was part of the redesign for Superman, or a failed concept or what.

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Now we actually know that it is, indeed, a statue. They man of concrete is still being built, but it's been set before a giant green screen that will double . . . for something. I suppose the citizens of Metropolis wanted to forever remember the alien who decided not to try and lead Zod out of the city to fight, and threw a fit when one Kryptonian died after thousands of humans did. Okay, maybe the context will be a tiny bit different.

A reader citing himself as "Bananadoc" snapped this photo (as well as the one featured at the bottom):

Obviously they're not going the Marvel route with the Justice League, and are attempting to go "Avengers" first, and branch out from there with films that aren't necessarily stand-alone. I'm fascinated to see if this will pay off. MAN OF STEEL didn't exactly blow my mind, but it did enough business to warrant BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE. The success/failure of this film will determine DC's cinematic future. It'll be a couple of years before we find out, so perhaps everyone will be used to the title by then. Perhaps not...

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE will show you how much justice it brings with a giant grey statue on May 6, 2016.

Source: Batman News

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3:30PM on 06/12/2014
That's really cool, I like that the pose is similar to the statue from the comics.
That's really cool, I like that the pose is similar to the statue from the comics.
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4:56AM on 06/11/2014
ZOD wasn't a villain! Superman was a villain!
ZOD wasn't a villain! Superman was a villain!
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3:00PM on 06/11/2014
Man , you Marvelheads are ridiculous.
Man , you Marvelheads are ridiculous.
9:20PM on 06/10/2014
They need to drop the batman v superman and just call it "Dawn of Justice" it sounds much better to me. Everyone in the world will know it's a batman/ superman film... Don't need it in the title... Dawn of Justice... Boom! Has a nice ring to it!
They need to drop the batman v superman and just call it "Dawn of Justice" it sounds much better to me. Everyone in the world will know it's a batman/ superman film... Don't need it in the title... Dawn of Justice... Boom! Has a nice ring to it!
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8:45PM on 06/10/2014
Those fingers. The internet has ruined me.
Those fingers. The internet has ruined me.
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8:11PM on 06/10/2014

Jeezy Creezy

Sifting through the constant bitching that accompanies every Man of Steel/BvS article on this site is like sitting in a bus full of screeching 14-year-old girls all on their period. Every. Fucking. Post.
Meantime, over in Avengers land, every writer on the site and you trolls can be heard be sucking and swallowing when the least little tidbit of information is released.
Down vote me. I gives a fizzuck.
Sifting through the constant bitching that accompanies every Man of Steel/BvS article on this site is like sitting in a bus full of screeching 14-year-old girls all on their period. Every. Fucking. Post.
Meantime, over in Avengers land, every writer on the site and you trolls can be heard be sucking and swallowing when the least little tidbit of information is released.
Down vote me. I gives a fizzuck.
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11:30PM on 06/10/2014
Lmao. That's what makes it fun. Watching a bunch of grown ass man crying over a movie. It's too funny.
Lmao. That's what makes it fun. Watching a bunch of grown ass man crying over a movie. It's too funny.
6:24PM on 06/10/2014
The only way for that statue to make sense (and if Snyder was smart), would be for this film to open with a Watchmen-like montage showing Superman becoming a heroic icon over the period of several years. Show clips and shots of him battling second tier villains like The Parasite. Show him winning the hearts of the world. This would effectively make Man of Steel ancient history.

I take no credit for this idea, I just stole it from David Fincher's opening idea for Spider-Man (back when he
The only way for that statue to make sense (and if Snyder was smart), would be for this film to open with a Watchmen-like montage showing Superman becoming a heroic icon over the period of several years. Show clips and shots of him battling second tier villains like The Parasite. Show him winning the hearts of the world. This would effectively make Man of Steel ancient history.

I take no credit for this idea, I just stole it from David Fincher's opening idea for Spider-Man (back when he was going to reboot it).
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7:10PM on 06/10/2014
That may well be how it goes down...because, on a less serious note... lets face it...the city needs to be built back up again...for it to then be destroyed again by the new big bad. The cost and rebuilding projects could also play part of Lex and Wayne's introduction and perhaps Lex's influence over sections of the public.
That may well be how it goes down...because, on a less serious note... lets face it...the city needs to be built back up again...for it to then be destroyed again by the new big bad. The cost and rebuilding projects could also play part of Lex and Wayne's introduction and perhaps Lex's influence over sections of the public.
6:08AM on 06/11/2014
WB needs to hire Dachande immediately.
WB needs to hire Dachande immediately.
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6:11PM on 06/10/2014
Oh please don't let this be a statue of tribute to a man that (whether it's his fault or not) bought about the deaths of hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people. Seriously can the writers be that crazy???? No, it's got to be for some other purpose. Then again, they're clearly rushing everything to bring about a Justice League..so may be in the first 20 minutes of the movie...the world will come to love the Man of Steel...coz he's done all those things like get cats out of
Oh please don't let this be a statue of tribute to a man that (whether it's his fault or not) bought about the deaths of hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people. Seriously can the writers be that crazy???? No, it's got to be for some other purpose. Then again, they're clearly rushing everything to bring about a Justice League..so may be in the first 20 minutes of the movie...the world will come to love the Man of Steel...coz he's done all those things like get cats out of trees...apprehended a bugler using suction cups to climb up an office tower...and perhaps nabbing a gang getting away in a high powered yacht....you know...generally doing stuff that makes you think...what a guy.
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7:11PM on 06/10/2014
Ok I'll humor your numbers for a second, just to make my point. They are not honering a man that "let" thousands/millions(retarded) die, they are honoring a man that saved over 6 billion. And when he actually had a choice to save someone(you people act like he should have ignored Zod and started searching through rubble mid fight) he chose to kill Zod rather than allow him to hurt anyone else.
Ok I'll humor your numbers for a second, just to make my point. They are not honering a man that "let" thousands/millions(retarded) die, they are honoring a man that saved over 6 billion. And when he actually had a choice to save someone(you people act like he should have ignored Zod and started searching through rubble mid fight) he chose to kill Zod rather than allow him to hurt anyone else.
8:05PM on 06/10/2014
@LordMiz

At the last minute they wanted Superman to kill Zod, so they had to rewrite him into that corner.Man of Steel tried too hard to sloppily write Superman into a corner, and it never made any sense. It felt like a tacked on after thought.

Nothing about the last third of the film made any kind of sense. There was absolutely no motivation for Zod to terraform Earth because it was already perfectly inhabitable. There was absolutely no reason for the pointless terraforming machine to
@LordMiz

At the last minute they wanted Superman to kill Zod, so they had to rewrite him into that corner.Man of Steel tried too hard to sloppily write Superman into a corner, and it never made any sense. It felt like a tacked on after thought.

Nothing about the last third of the film made any kind of sense. There was absolutely no motivation for Zod to terraform Earth because it was already perfectly inhabitable. There was absolutely no reason for the pointless terraforming machine to randomly have wacky ball bearing tentacles, or any kind of defense, because it was created to terraform uninhabited planets. What did it need to defend against? Unless the Kryptonians had a habit or traveling the universe and committing genocide with it. It was all pure reactionary story-telling, which is the worst kind of story-telling. It's like a child playing with action figures, endlessly adding twists to the tale to ramp up the action without any motivation or foundation.

8:38PM on 06/10/2014
I agree with you LordMiz.
I agree with you LordMiz.
5:35AM on 06/11/2014
LordMiz - "when he actually had a choice to save someone(you people act like he should have ignored Zod and started searching through rubble mid fight) " I'm not questioning why he killed Zod - did I say that? "you people act like..." How about you not group me in that? The movie was poorly written. I've posted on several occasions why, whilst very dated, Superman 2 is the more superior movie, giving us a Superman that cared. Little things, like trying to save civilians mid fight, fleeing
LordMiz - "when he actually had a choice to save someone(you people act like he should have ignored Zod and started searching through rubble mid fight) " I'm not questioning why he killed Zod - did I say that? "you people act like..." How about you not group me in that? The movie was poorly written. I've posted on several occasions why, whilst very dated, Superman 2 is the more superior movie, giving us a Superman that cared. Little things, like trying to save civilians mid fight, fleeing from a fight that simply would have continued risking the lives of more people, saying sorry to the President...makes a big difference - they were littered throughout Superman 2. How hard was it to incorporate that in to Man of Steel? The flashbacks of PA Kent brining up young Clark were brilliant but the second Clark becomes Superman, he seemed to ignore every bit of advice his earth dad gave him. As for honouring him - yes, Supes saved 6 billion people but there will be a very large number of people, particularly in his newly adopted home city (and on the other side of the planet) who will hold him responsible. Assuming this movie takes place quite soon after the first one - I cannot for the life of me see how he'd get a statue honouring him. Surely the city would at the very least be divided on whether he’s a saviour or the reason loved ones were killed. As it is, from what we have seen, Superman hasn't earned the title of Super...yet. FFS, I'm still baffled why he felt the need to smash an American military asset in to the road of an oncoming high ranking military officer - why not just land it right in front of the oncoming car - he's not Hulk...he's supposed to by Superman. As Ma Kent said in the animated Superman Doomsday movie, that is not the boy she raised.
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5:45PM on 06/10/2014
Man of Steel gave us the first superhero to actually pick up the dangerous homicidal supervillain, and fly him FROM a safe isolated area and INTO a heavily populated town to battle. Superheroes usually do the opposite of that.
Man of Steel gave us the first superhero to actually pick up the dangerous homicidal supervillain, and fly him FROM a safe isolated area and INTO a heavily populated town to battle. Superheroes usually do the opposite of that.
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8:47PM on 06/10/2014
Or just bring a Hulk to a major American city. That works too.
Or just bring a Hulk to a major American city. That works too.
4:47PM on 06/10/2014

Come on now...

For all the MOS haters complaining about the mass destruction of Metropolis and how Superman should be hated stop right there and think about it rather than bitching. The public hatred of Superman will obviously be front and center for B vs S and is also probably the main plot device that drives Bruce Wayne to team up with Lex Luthor to stop him...momentarily..
For all the MOS haters complaining about the mass destruction of Metropolis and how Superman should be hated stop right there and think about it rather than bitching. The public hatred of Superman will obviously be front and center for B vs S and is also probably the main plot device that drives Bruce Wayne to team up with Lex Luthor to stop him...momentarily..
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3:53PM on 06/10/2014

mos is awesome.

Lol i don't know why people get upset when they bash mos and you loved it. It's not like they are gonna change your opinion on the film. If you loved it then rock that shit out people, If people hated it then who cares.
Lol i don't know why people get upset when they bash mos and you loved it. It's not like they are gonna change your opinion on the film. If you loved it then rock that shit out people, If people hated it then who cares.
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3:34PM on 06/10/2014
The fact that I couldn't give a single solitary shit about a movie named "Batman vs Superman" speaks volumes to how utterly awful I consider the abortion of Man of Steel. That film failed both in narrative terms and in simple visual cohesion, let alone as a representation of Superman. I'm beyond having zero hopes for this movie, it reeks of a slapdash desperate hackjob, DC has completely fallen off of my radar cinematically.
The fact that I couldn't give a single solitary shit about a movie named "Batman vs Superman" speaks volumes to how utterly awful I consider the abortion of Man of Steel. That film failed both in narrative terms and in simple visual cohesion, let alone as a representation of Superman. I'm beyond having zero hopes for this movie, it reeks of a slapdash desperate hackjob, DC has completely fallen off of my radar cinematically.
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9:23PM on 06/10/2014
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3:22PM on 06/10/2014
What interests me is how the world changes post Zod invasion. It is like 9/11 times 1000.
We know 9/11 forever changes the world. A few guys with box cutters slam a few planes into a few buildings a few thousand die and the US becomes a draconian police state and we head off into wars overseas, and we have nut job shooting up schools, theaters and malls all over the country on a daily basis. How would the world be affected by the absolute demolition of Metropolis, AND suddenly the whole
What interests me is how the world changes post Zod invasion. It is like 9/11 times 1000.
We know 9/11 forever changes the world. A few guys with box cutters slam a few planes into a few buildings a few thousand die and the US becomes a draconian police state and we head off into wars overseas, and we have nut job shooting up schools, theaters and malls all over the country on a daily basis. How would the world be affected by the absolute demolition of Metropolis, AND suddenly the whole world knows we aren't alone in the universe, there are intelligences of great power out there threatening our world. And how does the Dark Knight, a man who wages a vigilante war on crime, feel about this super menace? With MoS they created this world, now they have to deal in it.
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1:56PM on 06/10/2014

as bad as the Batman statue

We all know that Batman statue at the end of Rises is just as stupid when you think about it. Everyone thinks Batman got blowned up saving the City and their pathetic lives, meanwhile he's having fucking Espresso in Italy, not giving a fuck, you dummies.
We all know that Batman statue at the end of Rises is just as stupid when you think about it. Everyone thinks Batman got blowned up saving the City and their pathetic lives, meanwhile he's having fucking Espresso in Italy, not giving a fuck, you dummies.
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1:41PM on 06/10/2014
This article is badly written. Copyedit, chump!
This article is badly written. Copyedit, chump!
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1:33PM on 06/10/2014
We shall build a statute in honor of the man who helped destroy half of our city leaving thousands homeless and possibly dead. We salut you noble sir!
We shall build a statute in honor of the man who helped destroy half of our city leaving thousands homeless and possibly dead. We salut you noble sir!
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1:42PM on 06/10/2014
Yeah - just like the article joked. Did you even read it?
Yeah - just like the article joked. Did you even read it?
2:21PM on 06/10/2014
They built it out of fear.
They built it out of fear.
2:28PM on 06/10/2014
..and in doing so SAVED THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Bunch of cynical asses....
..and in doing so SAVED THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Bunch of cynical asses....
5:39PM on 06/10/2014
@ schwarzgert

LMAO!
@ schwarzgert

LMAO!
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1:27PM on 06/10/2014

with all the hate...

I know people tend to hate on MoS, I happened to really enjoy it, but I do get what people have issue with. I make up my own justification as MoS basically being Superman: Year One. All they have to do is make him LEARN from all this and vow never to kill, realize how to handle property damage/causality, and all that stuff. I mean he was crushed by having to take Zod's life and it's impacted him dearly. I think that if the film handles that and who knows maybe even throws in a little montage of
I know people tend to hate on MoS, I happened to really enjoy it, but I do get what people have issue with. I make up my own justification as MoS basically being Superman: Year One. All they have to do is make him LEARN from all this and vow never to kill, realize how to handle property damage/causality, and all that stuff. I mean he was crushed by having to take Zod's life and it's impacted him dearly. I think that if the film handles that and who knows maybe even throws in a little montage of Supe's rebuilding Metropolis and make it seem like his was such a n00b to the whole hero thing. Didn't he like JUST learn how to fly? Great now i have that Foo Fighters song in my head. Even would be great to have an emotional speech and get him to look more like the boyscout that everyone wants.
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1:21PM on 06/10/2014
I find it laughable how hard the filmmakers are trying to make Man of Steel's Superman into a hero. I still can't believe there was an actual line in MoS where, in the midst of a completely leveled section of Metropolis, with ash covering everyone and everything, with rubble everywhere, with thousands dead or dying, one of the survivors actually had to say the line: "He saved us!" That, and Supe's subsequent kiss with Lois, is probably one of the most tone-deaf scenes I've ever seen at the
I find it laughable how hard the filmmakers are trying to make Man of Steel's Superman into a hero. I still can't believe there was an actual line in MoS where, in the midst of a completely leveled section of Metropolis, with ash covering everyone and everything, with rubble everywhere, with thousands dead or dying, one of the survivors actually had to say the line: "He saved us!" That, and Supe's subsequent kiss with Lois, is probably one of the most tone-deaf scenes I've ever seen at the movies. After all that, I find it ridiculously hard to believe that the citizens would be in any type of hurry to erect a statue in Kal-el's honor. Maybe it'll play out differently in the sequel, but this statue is probably nothing more than a ham-fisted way to convince us that Superman was "heroic" when he really wasn't.
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1:50PM on 06/10/2014
So saving the world doesn't make you a hero? You have some pretty steep standards there my friend.
So saving the world doesn't make you a hero? You have some pretty steep standards there my friend.
2:13PM on 06/10/2014
True, he DID save the world...after he led the Kryptonians there himself in the first place. After assisting in and being responsible for the destruction of downtown Smallville. After showing blatant disregard for the lives of thousands in Metropolis by first flying to the middle of nowhere to deal with a threat where no one's lives were immediately at stake, then punching and getting punched by Zod into every skyscraper in the city. And no, one casual, throw-away, afterthought line of "Stay
True, he DID save the world...after he led the Kryptonians there himself in the first place. After assisting in and being responsible for the destruction of downtown Smallville. After showing blatant disregard for the lives of thousands in Metropolis by first flying to the middle of nowhere to deal with a threat where no one's lives were immediately at stake, then punching and getting punched by Zod into every skyscraper in the city. And no, one casual, throw-away, afterthought line of "Stay inside" when he's facing down Faora in Smallville doesn't exactly cut it as being "heroic" or concerned about the lives of humans. It's really tough to see any "heroism" in any of that.
4:10PM on 06/10/2014
I'd "face down" faora any day ;)

Also, I'd happily rebut every point you made, but I think I'd have more luck convincing water it wasn't wet. Good day sir.
I'd "face down" faora any day ;)

Also, I'd happily rebut every point you made, but I think I'd have more luck convincing water it wasn't wet. Good day sir.
5:33PM on 06/10/2014
@Lordmiz. I'll be the guy posting after you saying I totally agree with Lordmiz.
@Lordmiz. I'll be the guy posting after you saying I totally agree with Lordmiz.
5:43PM on 06/10/2014
Ending a conversation with "I COULD counter every one of your points, but I just choose not to right now!", then having your little friend there back up your nonexistant rebuttal, doesn't exactly help your case. Look man, I'm not so dead-set in my own opinions that I'm unable to be reasoned with. I just need something to, you know, reason with. If you really care, then back your opinions up. If you don't, then why comment in the first place? Not trying to be confrontational, I just don't get
Ending a conversation with "I COULD counter every one of your points, but I just choose not to right now!", then having your little friend there back up your nonexistant rebuttal, doesn't exactly help your case. Look man, I'm not so dead-set in my own opinions that I'm unable to be reasoned with. I just need something to, you know, reason with. If you really care, then back your opinions up. If you don't, then why comment in the first place? Not trying to be confrontational, I just don't get your entire mindset here.
6:26PM on 06/10/2014
I posted my commented because I always seem to be right after him and I agree with his statements toward you dick.
I posted my commented because I always seem to be right after him and I agree with his statements toward you dick.
6:36PM on 06/10/2014
@The_Holiest, My humblest apologies for not knowing your own private comment history. What could I have possibly been thinking, right? How ignorant of me.
@The_Holiest, My humblest apologies for not knowing your own private comment history. What could I have possibly been thinking, right? How ignorant of me.
6:36PM on 06/10/2014
Double post
Double post
6:54PM on 06/10/2014
My first comment wasn't intended for you to begin with, but you had to be a jerk. Apology accepted. Off to read a new article.


My first comment wasn't intended for you to begin with, but you had to be a jerk. Apology accepted. Off to read a new article.


7:05PM on 06/10/2014
Alrighty then, in the same vein, my comment that you replied to wasn't addressed to or intended for you either. Guess we're even? I was talking to LordMiz and included a throwaway line about you...not sure how that's being a dick or a jerk, but God almighty are we really going to be so thin-skinned about harmless things? This is the internet, for crying out loud.
Alrighty then, in the same vein, my comment that you replied to wasn't addressed to or intended for you either. Guess we're even? I was talking to LordMiz and included a throwaway line about you...not sure how that's being a dick or a jerk, but God almighty are we really going to be so thin-skinned about harmless things? This is the internet, for crying out loud.
7:47PM on 06/10/2014
Ok I'll bite. Maybe it's the difference between a cynic and an optimist, but something told me debating you would be a waste of time, but I wanted to say something about getting face down with faora lol. You're mad at him for not being perfect, where's the reason in that? He was an alien trying to find his way, feeling outcast and alone his entire life, but still helping people whenever he could with no knowledge of his true limits and not knowing if it would kill him, I'd say those are the
Ok I'll bite. Maybe it's the difference between a cynic and an optimist, but something told me debating you would be a waste of time, but I wanted to say something about getting face down with faora lol. You're mad at him for not being perfect, where's the reason in that? He was an alien trying to find his way, feeling outcast and alone his entire life, but still helping people whenever he could with no knowledge of his true limits and not knowing if it would kill him, I'd say those are the actions of a pretty heroic person. When Zod showed up, he turned himself over. Heroic. When he attacked Zod for attacking his mother. Normal. When he "faced down" Faora and the big guy in town, outnumbered by equally powered trained warriors. Heroic. When he went to the machine that made him weak and could have killed him, but had to try to destroy it to save earth. Heroic. When he came right back and destroyed any chance of his race ever living again for the safety of earth. Heroic. When he went against every moral fiber in his body and killed Zod to save that family. Heroic. Superman didn't choose where they fought, and he's not a trained soldier, he did what he could with no regard for his own life in every situation. Heroic.

8:56PM on 06/10/2014
I'm not mad at him for being perfect. On the contrary, that would've made for a terribly boring character arc. Main characters need to go through some kind of growth and change throughout a story, I get that. But what we saw in MoS wasn't that. The movie never contextualized the wanton destruction as a learning curve or anything like that. It was just destruction and death for the sake of it. Fans of the movie are the only people who keep attaching that label to the destruction in Smallville
I'm not mad at him for being perfect. On the contrary, that would've made for a terribly boring character arc. Main characters need to go through some kind of growth and change throughout a story, I get that. But what we saw in MoS wasn't that. The movie never contextualized the wanton destruction as a learning curve or anything like that. It was just destruction and death for the sake of it. Fans of the movie are the only people who keep attaching that label to the destruction in Smallville and Metropolis, even though that was never even implied in the actual movie.

Yes, he kept helping people whenever he could. In that way, he actually WAS already perfect all along (ironic, huh?). He never had to learn to save people (which would've actually been interesting), he already did that right from the start. And that's what made it so much more insane that Clark didn't have the wherewithal to actually help people in the most dire circumstances. His inherent goodness doesn't mesh with how he threw Kryptonians into trains, into 7/11's, into other crowded stores, and how he didn't go out of his way to take the action someplace safer in Smallville. In the epic beat-down in Metropolis, he didn't show any ounce of remorse or regret over anyone caught in the devastation...except for the death of Zod himself. It's just so utterly tone-deaf. He bawled over the death of his greatest enemy, but not for any of the innocent humans caught in the wake. How is any of that heroic?

And you cite him committing genocide against his own race as heroic? I get what the film was going for there, but it never established ALL Kryptonians as evil. Only Zod and his renegade gang. How is it heroic to literally kill off any chance of his own race surviving? Weren't those unborn Kryptonians just as innocent as the humans? The movie opened up that can of moral worms and then, like it did with so many other aspects, it never did anything with it.

You keep stating how he's not a trained soldier and that he kept on risking his life...but since when does one need to be a trained soldier to realize one needs to limit collateral damage? Since when does one have to be a trained soldier in order to realize that killing is wrong? It doesn't matter that this was his first day on the job...it's common sense. Even a child could realize all of this.

And that's where my problem with this movie is. It's not that I think Clark was a monster or anything...it's just that the way he was written makes it difficult to buy into the fact that this guy was supposed to be a heroic symbol of hope and that his actions merit having a massive statue built in his honor. Do you honestly believe that the writers laid waste to Smallville and Metropolis so that the destruction could pay off in a future sequel with Lex Luthor using that against him? They didn't even know Batman would be in the sequel until MoS underperformed. They didn't plan ahead whatsoever. They just went for spectacle, even if it had no thematic resonance to the rest of the actual plot. That's what I can't stand about this movie. On paper, the ideas that were present COULD'VE been amazing, but the shoddy writing let it down.
9:34PM on 06/10/2014
Some insightful perspectives there brother, no joke. But again, you're all over him for not being perfect, no matter how you cut it, you're mostly faulting him for decisions he made in real time action, with the fate of the world at stake. "Throwing them into trains, buildings, etc", faced with the annihilation of earth if he failed, he fought with everything he had there is going to be collateral damage! He didn't have the luxury of choosing the battlegrounds, he was reacting to what was
Some insightful perspectives there brother, no joke. But again, you're all over him for not being perfect, no matter how you cut it, you're mostly faulting him for decisions he made in real time action, with the fate of the world at stake. "Throwing them into trains, buildings, etc", faced with the annihilation of earth if he failed, he fought with everything he had there is going to be collateral damage! He didn't have the luxury of choosing the battlegrounds, he was reacting to what was happening. And when I said he didn't know his limits I was referring to not knowing his full ability and what he could sustain, but he would try anyway, like at the oil rig and the machine at the other end, not knowing if it would kill him. He can obviously be hurt, so at some point he could be killed, and he was still willing to give his life trying, heroic! Ton of stuff to respond to but it seems no matter how many obvious examples of selfless heroism I give, you find fault in. He's a (super)man that will do/ did any and everything he can to protect earth, or die trying, how is that not heroic?
9:42PM on 06/10/2014
Also, the movie never established any Kryptonians evil, save Zod, and even he wasn't evil until the very end but that's not why he did it. He did it so that there was never a possibility of that happening to earth again. He had the ability to start another Krypton, it's not like he slaughtered 6 billion people to save another 6 billion, "committing genocide" is a little harsh lol.
Also, the movie never established any Kryptonians evil, save Zod, and even he wasn't evil until the very end but that's not why he did it. He did it so that there was never a possibility of that happening to earth again. He had the ability to start another Krypton, it's not like he slaughtered 6 billion people to save another 6 billion, "committing genocide" is a little harsh lol.
10:29PM on 06/10/2014
Haha sorry about the mini-essay there, I get a little carried away sometimes when I discuss this movie. I really wanted to love it, but it's just so hard to. You make some good points as well, but we'll have to agree to disagree here.

I don't know if you've heard of the Film Crit Hulk, but he's extremely knowledgeable in film, filmmaking, script-writing, and the industry in general. He's written about plenty of movies in the past, but his MoS essay is exceptional. It may not change your mind
Haha sorry about the mini-essay there, I get a little carried away sometimes when I discuss this movie. I really wanted to love it, but it's just so hard to. You make some good points as well, but we'll have to agree to disagree here.

I don't know if you've heard of the Film Crit Hulk, but he's extremely knowledgeable in film, filmmaking, script-writing, and the industry in general. He's written about plenty of movies in the past, but his MoS essay is exceptional. It may not change your mind or anything, but it'll definitely get you thinking. He has a...unique...writing style (he writes in all caps, as it's part of his Hulk "persona" haha) but once you get passed that, it's a really really great read. If you're interested:

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12:09AM on 06/11/2014
Lol, sounds good brother, and I'll check it out thank you!
Lol, sounds good brother, and I'll check it out thank you!
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1:07PM on 06/10/2014

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Clearly the writer had to take a shot at MOS so their goes the objectivity! I'm sick of those who complain about MOS action but love the action on every other Marvel flick! The writer clearly wanted another Returns superman and not one that makes sense cause krytonians fighting should be peaceful and Superman who just became Superman in MOS should already be trained. Haters sick of it these people would rather have no Superman movie at all. If you think Batman vs Superman wont work than you
Clearly the writer had to take a shot at MOS so their goes the objectivity! I'm sick of those who complain about MOS action but love the action on every other Marvel flick! The writer clearly wanted another Returns superman and not one that makes sense cause krytonians fighting should be peaceful and Superman who just became Superman in MOS should already be trained. Haters sick of it these people would rather have no Superman movie at all. If you think Batman vs Superman wont work than you really hating. By the way how many people died during the Avengers? Yea exactly hating!
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1:17PM on 06/10/2014
Hmmmm. Lets see.....no where near as MoS. At least majority of the buildings stayed standing in Avengers. AND, annnnnd, The Avengers made attempts to save lives, and not just a family that could of clearly ran......
Hmmmm. Lets see.....no where near as MoS. At least majority of the buildings stayed standing in Avengers. AND, annnnnd, The Avengers made attempts to save lives, and not just a family that could of clearly ran......
1:18PM on 06/10/2014
Agree with everything you said.
Agree with everything you said.
1:26PM on 06/10/2014
Are you new here, Buaer? The writers here ALWAYS let their opinion be known in their articles. Heck, that's not even a trait exclusive to Joblo. BadassDigest does that as well, Screenrant, and a host of other movie reporting sites. If you want 100% objectivity, the internet isn't exactly the best place to find that.

And you know what I'm sick of? People who get defensive about their favorite films. The writer here took a shot at MoS, that's true. But where did he ever say that he "clearly"
Are you new here, Buaer? The writers here ALWAYS let their opinion be known in their articles. Heck, that's not even a trait exclusive to Joblo. BadassDigest does that as well, Screenrant, and a host of other movie reporting sites. If you want 100% objectivity, the internet isn't exactly the best place to find that.

And you know what I'm sick of? People who get defensive about their favorite films. The writer here took a shot at MoS, that's true. But where did he ever say that he "clearly" wanted another Superman Returns? So anyone who disliked MoS HAD TO have wanted Superman Returns? Like, there's no other valid complaints? Get real. There's a reason MoS was so divisive among fans and why the critics killed the movie. But hey, I'm sure it's easier for you just to dismiss everyone as "haters" and then go ahead and make nonsensical comparisons to The Avengers.
1:43PM on 06/10/2014
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
2:07PM on 06/10/2014
Superman was clearly overwhelmed and doing the best he could, ya know, trying to save the entire world (which he did). And you people want to be angry at him because half a city was destroyed?? I think the surviving people would be pretty ungrateful if they didn't show appreciation.

I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it is my opinion that everyone who complained about the destruction in the movie is a moron.
Superman was clearly overwhelmed and doing the best he could, ya know, trying to save the entire world (which he did). And you people want to be angry at him because half a city was destroyed?? I think the surviving people would be pretty ungrateful if they didn't show appreciation.

I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it is my opinion that everyone who complained about the destruction in the movie is a moron.
2:44PM on 06/10/2014
@Lordmiz. Totally agree.
@Lordmiz. Totally agree.
12:46PM on 06/10/2014

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The first part of this article made no sense. He threw a fit when one kryptonian died? WTF are you talking about? Did you just dream that you watched Man of Steel and write about it?
The first part of this article made no sense. He threw a fit when one kryptonian died? WTF are you talking about? Did you just dream that you watched Man of Steel and write about it?
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1:05PM on 06/10/2014
I'm pretty sure he's referencing Superman freaking out after killing Zod despite the fact that he and Zod just tore apart a city, probably resulting in quite a few human casualties, while fighting each other.
I'm pretty sure he's referencing Superman freaking out after killing Zod despite the fact that he and Zod just tore apart a city, probably resulting in quite a few human casualties, while fighting each other.
10:50PM on 06/10/2014
Which is bullshit, since Superman didn't directly kill any of the humans who may have died. They were casualties of a battle between to super beings, and he also managed to save many by preventing that machine from terraforming earth. He literally, by his own hands, killed Zod, which would have far more impact than incidental deaths he probably didn't even recognize (faceless deaths).

I didn't like this movie, but the collateral damage complaints gets on my nerves. Superman leading Zod away
Which is bullshit, since Superman didn't directly kill any of the humans who may have died. They were casualties of a battle between to super beings, and he also managed to save many by preventing that machine from terraforming earth. He literally, by his own hands, killed Zod, which would have far more impact than incidental deaths he probably didn't even recognize (faceless deaths).

I didn't like this movie, but the collateral damage complaints gets on my nerves. Superman leading Zod away from the city? As if he had full control of that battle and Zod had no part in guiding it. This movie has many problems, mostly in story structure, but these particular complaints make me side with the fans, if only for that one reason.
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12:32PM on 06/10/2014
Oh, is this what I saw acouple of weeks ago. A statue.
Oh, is this what I saw acouple of weeks ago. A statue.
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12:30PM on 06/10/2014
This film feels SO far away, but I'm glad that DC is taking their time with the film and making it as great as possible. Man of Steel was a great, fresh start and I hope the film can capture that quality again; especially with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor joining the film this time around.
This film feels SO far away, but I'm glad that DC is taking their time with the film and making it as great as possible. Man of Steel was a great, fresh start and I hope the film can capture that quality again; especially with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor joining the film this time around.
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12:19PM on 06/10/2014
I give this film a lot of shit. I hated Man of Steel, Affleck as Batman is something I can't even say with a straight face, Gadot is a godawful actress, and Snyder is the next generation of Micheal Bay (which can be a good thing). But still, I love these characters so much that I really want this movie to be good. I really want Snyder to knock out of the park, yet my expectations are practically zero.
I give this film a lot of shit. I hated Man of Steel, Affleck as Batman is something I can't even say with a straight face, Gadot is a godawful actress, and Snyder is the next generation of Micheal Bay (which can be a good thing). But still, I love these characters so much that I really want this movie to be good. I really want Snyder to knock out of the park, yet my expectations are practically zero.
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2:21PM on 06/10/2014
Well... For a long time, Snyder was the anti-Bay, with beautifully and watchable action scenes. Then people did shite on him for his slowmo, so he went the other way... YOU (as in, the people complaining, again and again, about his slowmo) are responsible for his Bay-like editing. I, for one, was hopping for watchmen/300 kind of action...
Well... For a long time, Snyder was the anti-Bay, with beautifully and watchable action scenes. Then people did shite on him for his slowmo, so he went the other way... YOU (as in, the people complaining, again and again, about his slowmo) are responsible for his Bay-like editing. I, for one, was hopping for watchmen/300 kind of action...
12:18PM on 06/10/2014
What these set photos do not capture are the tiny bat-shaped grenades festooned around the statue's base.
What these set photos do not capture are the tiny bat-shaped grenades festooned around the statue's base.
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