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Ben Kingsley further complicates the Mandarin mystery from Iron Man 3

08.28.2014

We are past the one year mark since the release of IRON MAN 3 so I will dispense with the spoiler warnings on this article. We are going to discuss The Mandarin. Yes, I mean the version played by Ben Kingsley and not the fire-breathing villain Guy Pearce played who called himself The Mandarin at the end of the film. We all went into IRON MAN 3 expecting Kingsley to bring the comic character to life only to have the rug pulled out from under us when he revealed himself as failed actor Trevor Slattery. The comedy was awesome but many fans felt duped. Then, the Marvel One-Shot ALL HAIL THE KING added back some theories that the "real Mandarin" may still be out there.

While there are hopes that we may someday see a true incarnation of the Iron Man nemesis on the big screen, he may not need to be played by a different actor. During interviews for THE BOXTROLLS with IGN, Kingsley teased his theory regarding the character.

“Has the Mandarin invented Trevor, or has Trevor invented the Mandarin? Which is which?…The Mandarin could be so supremely intelligent that he could have said, ‘You know what? I’ll invent this actor, and he will be my mask.’ You know, which is which? Who’s pulling the strings. Now, this is me just free-thinking here, but I would love to revisit that world. But Trev, bless him, may have made an indelible mark on that world. So everyone might say, ‘Is it Trev under there?’ So they’d have to approach it quite carefully, and so would I, but I would love to go back to that world, yeah.”

While Kingsley doesn't have any true say on whether this is how things turn out, it would be an intriguing twist to have Aldrich Killian use the Mandarin persona with Trevor Slattery and not know that Slattery himself really is the Mandarin. That would be a mindf*ck of the highest order and would require major balls on behalf of Marvel to go back and make that happen. I want some of what Kingsley is smoking.

While I doubt we will see the Mandarin return anytime soon, this could be a great idea for the studio to keep in their back pocket. What do you think?

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4:33AM on 08/30/2014
I accepted that it was a triple play when I watched the One Shot. That cemented it for me.
I accepted that it was a triple play when I watched the One Shot. That cemented it for me.
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12:28PM on 08/29/2014
When I saw it the first time I was thinking that it was a triple cross. Why would marvel hint twice at the ten rings and then deliver Trevor? Because killian wasn't the real Madarin. Ben Kingsley was/is. It threw off tony and rhodey. They were right in front of him and didn't know it. Kinda like usual suspects.
When I saw it the first time I was thinking that it was a triple cross. Why would marvel hint twice at the ten rings and then deliver Trevor? Because killian wasn't the real Madarin. Ben Kingsley was/is. It threw off tony and rhodey. They were right in front of him and didn't know it. Kinda like usual suspects.
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10:26AM on 08/29/2014
Kingsley is the only really good thing about Iron Man 3. The rest of the movie is a giant turd. I'd love to see him return and Mind "F" everybody. A cameo at the end of Age of Ultron would be pretty damn sweet.
Kingsley is the only really good thing about Iron Man 3. The rest of the movie is a giant turd. I'd love to see him return and Mind "F" everybody. A cameo at the end of Age of Ultron would be pretty damn sweet.
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8:48AM on 08/29/2014

Whoever disliked that twist is a moron.

Kingsley stated above exactly why the twist worked. We don't know who is who!!! What persona is the mask. We never get that confirmation.
Kingsley stated above exactly why the twist worked. We don't know who is who!!! What persona is the mask. We never get that confirmation.
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4:59AM on 08/29/2014

What do I think?

I think that we need to see the real Mandarin in an Iron Man movie at some point, and he needs to be played by an Asian actor. It's time to start giving international audiences enough credit to know that just because a bad guy is portrayed by a non-American, doesn't mean it's some subtext-laden, hidden racist commentary on how American society views the world. Sure they could tone it down in translating the character to the screen, but there's no getting around the fact that Iron Man's greatest
I think that we need to see the real Mandarin in an Iron Man movie at some point, and he needs to be played by an Asian actor. It's time to start giving international audiences enough credit to know that just because a bad guy is portrayed by a non-American, doesn't mean it's some subtext-laden, hidden racist commentary on how American society views the world. Sure they could tone it down in translating the character to the screen, but there's no getting around the fact that Iron Man's greatest adversary happens to be Asian, and if approached in the right way the decision to go with that will not affect international box office in the least.
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4:45PM on 09/02/2014
Ben Kingsley is of Indian decent (real name Krishna Pandit Bhanji) and all the Indians I know call themselves Asian. just sayin'
Ben Kingsley is of Indian decent (real name Krishna Pandit Bhanji) and all the Indians I know call themselves Asian. just sayin'
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4:28AM on 08/29/2014
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but even so: The Mandarin is not a good villain anyway. He's a little silly and kinda racist. He's just Fu Manchu with rings. So yeah, honestly, what's it matter?
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but even so: The Mandarin is not a good villain anyway. He's a little silly and kinda racist. He's just Fu Manchu with rings. So yeah, honestly, what's it matter?
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12:58AM on 08/29/2014

This move sucked

Yea. It sucked. Let it go.
Yea. It sucked. Let it go.
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12:22PM on 08/29/2014
Completely agree. Why are we still talking about this? Does anyone give a shit?
Completely agree. Why are we still talking about this? Does anyone give a shit?
12:40AM on 08/29/2014
Imagine Raza from the first Iron Man didn't die after getting shot by Stane's men and instead wakes up in a hospital in Pakistan and sees Trevor on TV and screams bloody blue murder because somebody took his cause and made it a joke.
Imagine Raza from the first Iron Man didn't die after getting shot by Stane's men and instead wakes up in a hospital in Pakistan and sees Trevor on TV and screams bloody blue murder because somebody took his cause and made it a joke.
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9:03PM on 08/28/2014
He makes for a terrifying, downright entertaining villain in The Boxtrolls; go check that one out!
He makes for a terrifying, downright entertaining villain in The Boxtrolls; go check that one out!
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8:55PM on 08/28/2014
I just don't get the complaints. How was Guy Pearce NOT the real Mandarin in that movie? I thought the twist was well done and perfectly respectful to the source material, without mimicking it exactly.
I just don't get the complaints. How was Guy Pearce NOT the real Mandarin in that movie? I thought the twist was well done and perfectly respectful to the source material, without mimicking it exactly.
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12:59AM on 08/29/2014
Go watch Twilight or something dude. Seems more on your level.
Go watch Twilight or something dude. Seems more on your level.
7:26AM on 08/29/2014
Holy shit, what does that even mean? Don't get me wrong, Twilight sucks, but--what? How does that in any way apply to anything I wrote? What the hell kind of response is that? Is this some Zen koan shit here?

Man, people can be so touchy when someone voices a contrary opinion. Deep breaths, friend.
Holy shit, what does that even mean? Don't get me wrong, Twilight sucks, but--what? How does that in any way apply to anything I wrote? What the hell kind of response is that? Is this some Zen koan shit here?

Man, people can be so touchy when someone voices a contrary opinion. Deep breaths, friend.
7:52PM on 08/28/2014
As great as this sounds, then they need to explain All Hail The King shorts. If All Hail The King shorts didn't exist, this story would make perfect sense.
As great as this sounds, then they need to explain All Hail The King shorts. If All Hail The King shorts didn't exist, this story would make perfect sense.
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7:51PM on 08/28/2014
The Iron Man trailer...along side the Man of Steel trailer...knocked it out of the park and then some. Looking back at the former, I feel really let down by the twist as I really wanted the badass villain the trailer promised. Still, I know I really enjoyed the movie at the time. I just watched it again...and it's definitely enjoyable but I can't help think Marvel got this wrong. As it is, I think the moment has passed...and attempts to rectify the Mandarin will drive home how big a mistake
The Iron Man trailer...along side the Man of Steel trailer...knocked it out of the park and then some. Looking back at the former, I feel really let down by the twist as I really wanted the badass villain the trailer promised. Still, I know I really enjoyed the movie at the time. I just watched it again...and it's definitely enjoyable but I can't help think Marvel got this wrong. As it is, I think the moment has passed...and attempts to rectify the Mandarin will drive home how big a mistake the twist was...so let it go. That said, lets face it, the comics correcting f-up's happen all the time...clone saga anyone???
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6:56PM on 08/28/2014
I used to be in the camp that HATED the plot twist when I saw Iron Man 3 on opening night...but repeat viewings really helped me get over that. I still think the execution of the plot twist was a bit too silly and in-your-face, but the movie just gets SO MUCH right. It's basically a character study on Tony Stark, and it nails it perfectly. Is the movie itself flawed in some respects? Yes, but it's much better than the fanboys give it credit for.

That said...the One-Shot was enough. No need
I used to be in the camp that HATED the plot twist when I saw Iron Man 3 on opening night...but repeat viewings really helped me get over that. I still think the execution of the plot twist was a bit too silly and in-your-face, but the movie just gets SO MUCH right. It's basically a character study on Tony Stark, and it nails it perfectly. Is the movie itself flawed in some respects? Yes, but it's much better than the fanboys give it credit for.

That said...the One-Shot was enough. No need to further ret-con things. Just let it be.
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6:45PM on 08/28/2014

wait for Dr. Strange..

that's when they'll introduce the "mystic elements" of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. it would be a great time for Trevor to pick up some evil powers.
that's when they'll introduce the "mystic elements" of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. it would be a great time for Trevor to pick up some evil powers.
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6:29PM on 08/28/2014
I still think they should do one more Iron Man film and have him go head to head against the real Mandarin. I liked the twist and thought it was ballsy of Marvel, but like most people I would love to see Tony against the REAL Mandarin this time. I mean it's argurably his most powerful opponent, so why not?
I still think they should do one more Iron Man film and have him go head to head against the real Mandarin. I liked the twist and thought it was ballsy of Marvel, but like most people I would love to see Tony against the REAL Mandarin this time. I mean it's argurably his most powerful opponent, so why not?
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6:24PM on 08/28/2014
This is all a moot point unless there's going to be an Iron Man 4, right? And as far as we know, RDJ is done after Avengers 3, so I don't know the point of having this story keep coming up. I guess they could use him as a villain on Agents of Shield or something, but it wouldn't be the same as having face off against Iron man.
This is all a moot point unless there's going to be an Iron Man 4, right? And as far as we know, RDJ is done after Avengers 3, so I don't know the point of having this story keep coming up. I guess they could use him as a villain on Agents of Shield or something, but it wouldn't be the same as having face off against Iron man.
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9:22PM on 08/28/2014
Mandarin has faught many different Marvel hero's, SHIELD would be the last place I think he would show up.

I think a 1 season Netflix show telling the story how he became the Mandarin is more likely, and more likely Ben Kingsley would be used to finish his contract and murdered by the real Mandarin to really please the true fanboys.
Mandarin has faught many different Marvel hero's, SHIELD would be the last place I think he would show up.

I think a 1 season Netflix show telling the story how he became the Mandarin is more likely, and more likely Ben Kingsley would be used to finish his contract and murdered by the real Mandarin to really please the true fanboys.
12:54AM on 08/29/2014
We could have a War Machine or Iron Patriot movie.
We could have a War Machine or Iron Patriot movie.
6:11PM on 08/28/2014
This was a great twist. No one saw it coming and it worked in the movie. Butthurt fanboys are the only ones who complained about it because waaaaa it's different than the source material. Waaaaaa.
This was a great twist. No one saw it coming and it worked in the movie. Butthurt fanboys are the only ones who complained about it because waaaaa it's different than the source material. Waaaaaa.
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6:17PM on 08/28/2014
It's equivalent to making the Joker a dude who performs for kids' birthday parties. Not only fanboys complained about this.
It's equivalent to making the Joker a dude who performs for kids' birthday parties. Not only fanboys complained about this.
6:44PM on 08/28/2014
Over $1 billion in box office totals says otherwise. Yeah, pretty much only the diehard fanboys ended up getting upset about it. Most everyone else is able to look past the plot twist and appreciate everything else the movie did right.
Over $1 billion in box office totals says otherwise. Yeah, pretty much only the diehard fanboys ended up getting upset about it. Most everyone else is able to look past the plot twist and appreciate everything else the movie did right.
6:51PM on 08/28/2014
BatSTUD...you are one of the ones who will never realize that the Mandarin, as played by Guy Pearce, is more similar to the modern comic Mandarin than Kingsley.
BatSTUD...you are one of the ones who will never realize that the Mandarin, as played by Guy Pearce, is more similar to the modern comic Mandarin than Kingsley.
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5:49PM on 08/28/2014
I actually thought about this the other day, and sorta think I'd like to see it. However it makes the dude trying to murder him in All Hail the King a bit moot.
I actually thought about this the other day, and sorta think I'd like to see it. However it makes the dude trying to murder him in All Hail the King a bit moot.
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5:40PM on 08/28/2014

Stupid

So tired of them trying to roll out of a bad idea.
So tired of them trying to roll out of a bad idea.
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5:38PM on 08/28/2014

Meh

Unless that was the plan the whole time (which I seriously doubt), I'd leave it alone. If they build on that idea we'd just have a ton of plotholes on our hands.
Unless that was the plan the whole time (which I seriously doubt), I'd leave it alone. If they build on that idea we'd just have a ton of plotholes on our hands.
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