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Ben Kingsley's secret project for Marvel rumored to be a new One-Shot

Oct. 29, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

Last week Ben Kingsley revealed he is working on a secret project for Marvel, and at the time there wasn't any details on what it could be. Latino-Review believes they know, and according to the site Kingsley will appear in a new One-Shot. But what will the short video be about, and why is Ben Kingsley involved? Scroll past the ghetto Mandarin spoiler buffer to learn more.

Latino-Review claims the new Marvel One-Shot will revolve around the real Mandarin being very angry with Aldrich Killian and Trevor Slattery (Ben Kingsley). Why is he pissed at them? For tarnishing his good name, of course.

According to sources, Marvel wants to make it up to fans so in the one shot, the REAL Mandarin is furious with Aldrich Killian and Ben Kingsley’s character Trevor Slattery for the mockery they made of the real Mandarin’s identity and legacy. The real Mandarin wants to set the record straight.

Yes, the REAL Mandarin.

How is he going to set the record straight? That I don’t know. Who is going to play the real Mandarin? Don’t know either. Wait and see.

Regardless of how you feel about the twist in IRON MAN 3, if you're a comic book fan this is great news. The Mandarin is a fantastic character and a big part of Iron Man's universe. Shane Black and Drew Pearce may have thought having Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian as the mastermind behind the events in IRON MAN 3 was a good idea when they wrote the screenplay, but it essentially killed any future use of the Mandarin character. I think Marvel knows this too, and while Latino-Review's source may say the new One-Shot is for fans that didn't like the twist, I feel like the studio also wants to make sure they have every option available for their future films, including a "real" Mandarin.

But this news hasn't been confirmed by anyone, and you're going to have to take this with a big grain of salt until we hear something more solid on Marvel reintroducing The Mandarin.

Extra Tidbit: Who would you like to see play the real Mandarin? My vote is for Javier Bardem.
Source: Latino-Review

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10:53AM on 10/30/2013
When I snap at my wife for something that turns out to be my fault...attempts to make it up to her...are futile. I decide to let it go...and just let time heal the wounds. Marvel's first real screw up...let that be a lesson to them...and move on. "The real Mandarin wants to set the record straight". Please...god...that sounds like a video short HISHE or College Humor would do (and do well).
When I snap at my wife for something that turns out to be my fault...attempts to make it up to her...are futile. I decide to let it go...and just let time heal the wounds. Marvel's first real screw up...let that be a lesson to them...and move on. "The real Mandarin wants to set the record straight". Please...god...that sounds like a video short HISHE or College Humor would do (and do well).
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1:52AM on 10/30/2013

Bull crap

Trevor Slattery is in jail, probably in solitary confinement. He is an embarrassment to America: not only did the the terrorist the Mandarin turn out to be a fake but he was operating on US soil. An actor made videos claiming to be a terrorist and the US government bought it. And the media too. That's the story they need to expand upon.

Anyway, if they do go this route then the correct term would be fatwa. "A fatwa is any religious decision made by mufti (Islamic scholar who is an
Trevor Slattery is in jail, probably in solitary confinement. He is an embarrassment to America: not only did the the terrorist the Mandarin turn out to be a fake but he was operating on US soil. An actor made videos claiming to be a terrorist and the US government bought it. And the media too. That's the story they need to expand upon.

Anyway, if they do go this route then the correct term would be fatwa. "A fatwa is any religious decision made by mufti (Islamic scholar who is an interpreter or expounder of Islamic law)." An Islamic leader could sentence Trevor Slattery to death because he disgraced Islam by posing as a terrorist. That would be a big deal.
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9:26AM on 10/30/2013
Why would posing as a terrorist be a disgrace to Islam? Posing as a Muslim, now that's a different story. Let alone posing as a Muslim who support terrorism. And no, Trevor Slattery did not make himself look 'Islamic'. The 'Mandarin' persona was a hodgepodge of popular icons of terrorism that serve as a parody of how Americans perceive terrorism based on what they see in the media.
Why would posing as a terrorist be a disgrace to Islam? Posing as a Muslim, now that's a different story. Let alone posing as a Muslim who support terrorism. And no, Trevor Slattery did not make himself look 'Islamic'. The 'Mandarin' persona was a hodgepodge of popular icons of terrorism that serve as a parody of how Americans perceive terrorism based on what they see in the media.
12:12AM on 10/31/2013
Not all terrorists are Muslim dude. We have some of the worst terrorists representing the United States, but they're called politicians here.
Not all terrorists are Muslim dude. We have some of the worst terrorists representing the United States, but they're called politicians here.
12:53AM on 10/30/2013
I would like James Hong, but he's obviously a little too old now, and it's a shame. As a kid I always thought his character from Big Trouble In Little China was the perfect reali life representation of the Mandarin.
I would like James Hong, but he's obviously a little too old now, and it's a shame. As a kid I always thought his character from Big Trouble In Little China was the perfect reali life representation of the Mandarin.
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9:56PM on 10/29/2013

Ben Kingsley IS The Mandarin!

As silly as this "retwisting the twist" sounds on Marvel's part, I think the obvious person to play the REAL Mandarin would be Ben Kingsley himself. They did mention in IM3 that Trevor had to go through reconstructive surgery on his face to wipe-out his former image. This means they molded him to look like the REAL Mandarin, who then must obviously look like Ben Kingsley. If they took this route it could be pretty awesome, because Kingsley killed it as The Mandarin.
As silly as this "retwisting the twist" sounds on Marvel's part, I think the obvious person to play the REAL Mandarin would be Ben Kingsley himself. They did mention in IM3 that Trevor had to go through reconstructive surgery on his face to wipe-out his former image. This means they molded him to look like the REAL Mandarin, who then must obviously look like Ben Kingsley. If they took this route it could be pretty awesome, because Kingsley killed it as The Mandarin.
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1:54AM on 10/30/2013
But then that means the Mandarin also looks like Gandhi.
But then that means the Mandarin also looks like Gandhi.
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9:36PM on 10/29/2013
I'm all for Chow Yun Fat as the real Mandarin. I'd love to see Iron Man's nemesis slo-mo with two guns.
I'm all for Chow Yun Fat as the real Mandarin. I'd love to see Iron Man's nemesis slo-mo with two guns.
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8:25PM on 10/29/2013
Why all the down votes for the idea of Chow Yung Fat as Mandarin?? I think it would be a great idea!
Why all the down votes for the idea of Chow Yung Fat as Mandarin?? I think it would be a great idea!
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8:22PM on 10/29/2013

Yeah....

Because, you know.... Latino Review is SUCCHHH a reliable source.

Whatever, call me when something real comes through the pipeline.
Because, you know.... Latino Review is SUCCHHH a reliable source.

Whatever, call me when something real comes through the pipeline.
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8:12PM on 10/29/2013
Wouldn't that idea negate the point of Guy Pearce's character? I wasn't a fan of the twist, but you already declared Killian as the Mandarin, and unless you plan to pull a george lucas and re-edit Iron Man 3, you can't undo it. Like I said when Iron Man 3 first hit theaters, they should have Killian say he tried to join with the Mandarin, but couldn't find him so he created a copy of him. So Marvel could still keep their twist idea, but still keep the idea of a real Mandarin out there.
Wouldn't that idea negate the point of Guy Pearce's character? I wasn't a fan of the twist, but you already declared Killian as the Mandarin, and unless you plan to pull a george lucas and re-edit Iron Man 3, you can't undo it. Like I said when Iron Man 3 first hit theaters, they should have Killian say he tried to join with the Mandarin, but couldn't find him so he created a copy of him. So Marvel could still keep their twist idea, but still keep the idea of a real Mandarin out there.
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9:28AM on 10/30/2013
When Killian said he was tha Mandarin, he did'nt actually mean he was the Mandarin. He was saying it as if to say he was the real mastermind behind that whole fiasco, since they were making it look as if Trevor (Mandarin) was the leader.
When Killian said he was tha Mandarin, he did'nt actually mean he was the Mandarin. He was saying it as if to say he was the real mastermind behind that whole fiasco, since they were making it look as if Trevor (Mandarin) was the leader.
3:06PM on 10/29/2013

Jesus

This is getting dumb. Just make a straight fucking movie already.
This is getting dumb. Just make a straight fucking movie already.
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2:30PM on 10/29/2013

Its obvious choice I know...but.....

Chow Yun-Fat or Donny Yen. Someone who is actually.....asian
Chow Yun-Fat or Donny Yen. Someone who is actually.....asian
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1:58AM on 10/30/2013
Ben Kingsley's real name is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. His father is from Gujrati, India, where Gandhi grew up. That's why Kingsley was able to shave his head and look like Gandhi.
Ben Kingsley's real name is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. His father is from Gujrati, India, where Gandhi grew up. That's why Kingsley was able to shave his head and look like Gandhi.
9:16AM on 10/30/2013
What the fuck does that reply have anything to do with him saying he would like Chow Yun-Fat or Donny Yen to play the MANDARIN because they're asian.
What the fuck does that reply have anything to do with him saying he would like Chow Yun-Fat or Donny Yen to play the MANDARIN because they're asian.
1:56PM on 10/29/2013
I dunno, kind of seems pointless at this point. Like I get it, they want to retcon Mandarin so they can use the actual Mandarin character in future movies. The only thing is this: There is no way they're going to use Mandarin as a main villain in the Avengers movies - I can't think of a single story where Mandarin was the main protagonist to the Avengers (I could be wrong). And RDJ isn't too keen on returning for anymore solo Iron Man flicks, strictly Avengers movies from here on out. So
I dunno, kind of seems pointless at this point. Like I get it, they want to retcon Mandarin so they can use the actual Mandarin character in future movies. The only thing is this: There is no way they're going to use Mandarin as a main villain in the Avengers movies - I can't think of a single story where Mandarin was the main protagonist to the Avengers (I could be wrong). And RDJ isn't too keen on returning for anymore solo Iron Man flicks, strictly Avengers movies from here on out. So how do they expect to use the character?

It just makes the whole thing a complete waste in time and effort. Marvel, lick your wounds and move on to something else. People will get over this.
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1:41PM on 10/29/2013

that should make up for it.

I'd actually pick Chow Yun Fat for Mandarin.
I'd actually pick Chow Yun Fat for Mandarin.
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1:40PM on 10/29/2013
Considering that the Mandarin is a racist caricature from a bygone age, I would rather not see anyone play him...

Least of all Javier Bardem, like dude, you do realize the Mandarin is supposed to be, while being horribly stereotypical, Asian, yeah?
Considering that the Mandarin is a racist caricature from a bygone age, I would rather not see anyone play him...

Least of all Javier Bardem, like dude, you do realize the Mandarin is supposed to be, while being horribly stereotypical, Asian, yeah?
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12:59AM on 10/30/2013
So what's the big deal? Are you crying racism or something!? So there can't be a very powerful and evil Asian man that goes around thinking of himself as a/the Mandarin? Do we all cry (maybe you do) stereotypical when we see an evil white North American looking male as an evil rich businessman? For God's sake, they are movies based on comic book characters. They can be evil or good from any race and who cares in the end as long as the characters are well represented and acted.
So what's the big deal? Are you crying racism or something!? So there can't be a very powerful and evil Asian man that goes around thinking of himself as a/the Mandarin? Do we all cry (maybe you do) stereotypical when we see an evil white North American looking male as an evil rich businessman? For God's sake, they are movies based on comic book characters. They can be evil or good from any race and who cares in the end as long as the characters are well represented and acted.
12:40PM on 10/29/2013

guess i wont know for a while what the real deal is...

...seeing as these ''one-shots'' are punishment for us few who havnt decided to swallow the blu-ray pill.
...seeing as these ''one-shots'' are punishment for us few who havnt decided to swallow the blu-ray pill.
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12:10PM on 10/29/2013

Funny thing

I've been playing LEGO Marvel Superheroes. The game uses the MCU version of every single character when applicable. The one and only exception is The Mandarin.
I've been playing LEGO Marvel Superheroes. The game uses the MCU version of every single character when applicable. The one and only exception is The Mandarin.
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12:26PM on 10/29/2013
Well I guess because it would make no sense for Trevor Slattery to be attacking people with magical powers?
Well I guess because it would make no sense for Trevor Slattery to be attacking people with magical powers?
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11:58AM on 10/29/2013
If they really want to come full circle with this, then the guy that's trying to take out Ben Kingsley should be the original leader of the "ten rings" organisation, who then takes the name Mandarin for his own as recompense.

It should be this guy: [link]
If they really want to come full circle with this, then the guy that's trying to take out Ben Kingsley should be the original leader of the "ten rings" organisation, who then takes the name Mandarin for his own as recompense.

It should be this guy: [link]
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9:34PM on 10/29/2013
Okay... but he died in Iron Man 1.
Okay... but he died in Iron Man 1.
10:01PM on 10/29/2013
Off-camera
Off-camera
11:55AM on 10/29/2013
Who would I want to see playing the REAL mandarin?
Chow Yun-fat!
Go completely back to the source material since they messed up the perfect set up in the 1st half of that film with having him be a terrorist leader.
Who would I want to see playing the REAL mandarin?
Chow Yun-fat!
Go completely back to the source material since they messed up the perfect set up in the 1st half of that film with having him be a terrorist leader.
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11:55AM on 10/29/2013

Batman

This actually reminds me of how i felt with The Dark Knight Rises. Bane was going around touting the gospel of the League of Shadows, when really he was just a pawn for the real mastermind. If the real Ras Al Ghul could see how Bane was using the League of Shadow's name, he would be furious.
This actually reminds me of how i felt with The Dark Knight Rises. Bane was going around touting the gospel of the League of Shadows, when really he was just a pawn for the real mastermind. If the real Ras Al Ghul could see how Bane was using the League of Shadow's name, he would be furious.
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11:52AM on 10/29/2013

Ben Kingsley as Mandarin

it would be cool to have him play both Trevor Slattery and The Mandarin
it would be cool to have him play both Trevor Slattery and The Mandarin
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11:49AM on 10/29/2013

For Mandarin, I would like to see him played by

Chow Yung Fat!!
Chow Yung Fat!!
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11:28AM on 10/29/2013
Not sure they can salvage this goof.
The main problem with the Mandarin twist is they took a sacred cow, the arch nemesis of their biggest hero and decided to make him a complete fake. They can't just fix that. There is a very good reason for Mandarin to be Tony Stark's arch enemy, the plot lines and themes all get magnified. They got cute with it and ruined that. A one-shot does not fix that gaffe.
Not sure they can salvage this goof.
The main problem with the Mandarin twist is they took a sacred cow, the arch nemesis of their biggest hero and decided to make him a complete fake. They can't just fix that. There is a very good reason for Mandarin to be Tony Stark's arch enemy, the plot lines and themes all get magnified. They got cute with it and ruined that. A one-shot does not fix that gaffe.
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11:16AM on 10/29/2013
If this is true this is Marvel recognizing its mistake and trying to correct it, lets hope they can do Mandarin some justice.
If this is true this is Marvel recognizing its mistake and trying to correct it, lets hope they can do Mandarin some justice.
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11:06AM on 10/29/2013
I enjoyed Iron Man 3. It isn't my favorite film of the Marvel Universe or even my favorite of the Iron Man series but I thought it was a solid movie. That being said I am still interested to see what they do and would be interested to see them correct that twist by introducing the REAL Mandarin. Excited to see if this source is right and what Kingsley is working on.
I enjoyed Iron Man 3. It isn't my favorite film of the Marvel Universe or even my favorite of the Iron Man series but I thought it was a solid movie. That being said I am still interested to see what they do and would be interested to see them correct that twist by introducing the REAL Mandarin. Excited to see if this source is right and what Kingsley is working on.
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10:58AM on 10/29/2013
I hate when people call the "Mandarin Twist" ballsy. It was the opposite. Faithfully adapting any part of any source, especially concerning comic books, is ballsy. This is what has gotten Marvel as far as they are. They know this and they've said this. Having The Mandarin be another business man is lazy, uninspired, cliche, tired, and lame. Strictly from a film standpoint, having a guy with 10 magic rings would have been a breath of fresh air for this franchise, the MCU, and comic book films as
I hate when people call the "Mandarin Twist" ballsy. It was the opposite. Faithfully adapting any part of any source, especially concerning comic books, is ballsy. This is what has gotten Marvel as far as they are. They know this and they've said this. Having The Mandarin be another business man is lazy, uninspired, cliche, tired, and lame. Strictly from a film standpoint, having a guy with 10 magic rings would have been a breath of fresh air for this franchise, the MCU, and comic book films as a whole. Think of all the inspired, fresh, interesting and new ways to devise the story and action. But instead we get the same old rich white dude we've seen a million times. I still can't believe they fucked up this badly, but at least they're trying to remedy this as best they can (considering this is true). And I want a full on Mandarin. Not even a hamfisted Osama parable knock-off.
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10:56AM on 10/29/2013
They should have just done it right the first time by staying true to the material. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from IM3, and I'm not at all interested in them bringing back "The Mandarine" any time soon.
They should have just done it right the first time by staying true to the material. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from IM3, and I'm not at all interested in them bringing back "The Mandarine" any time soon.
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10:29AM on 10/29/2013

Kingsley is the real Mandarin!

I'm betting he's in prison and the real Mandarin comes to visit him who looks just like Kingsley or, Mandarin's spirit will appear and possess Trevor thus making him Mandarin.
I'm betting he's in prison and the real Mandarin comes to visit him who looks just like Kingsley or, Mandarin's spirit will appear and possess Trevor thus making him Mandarin.
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10:26AM on 10/29/2013

???

Sounds like bad fan-fiction. The nerds should love it.
Sounds like bad fan-fiction. The nerds should love it.
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10:26AM on 10/29/2013
the Real Madarin simply just wouldn't have worked with the Iron Man real world universe marvel created for the big screen. I would prefer they kept Kingsley as the real mandarin and just inject him with a more powerful dose of extremis. but no magic should be present, so his rings have to be changed some how in order to work with the film.
the Real Madarin simply just wouldn't have worked with the Iron Man real world universe marvel created for the big screen. I would prefer they kept Kingsley as the real mandarin and just inject him with a more powerful dose of extremis. but no magic should be present, so his rings have to be changed some how in order to work with the film.
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11:30AM on 10/29/2013
You mean the Universe that has Thor, Loki, Thanos, The Guardians, Dr Strange, a talking Raccoon, but magical Rings thats pushing it?
You mean the Universe that has Thor, Loki, Thanos, The Guardians, Dr Strange, a talking Raccoon, but magical Rings thats pushing it?
11:33AM on 10/29/2013
I am not sure why you come to the conclusion that the real Mandarin wouldn't work in the real world Marvel universe. Certainly the Mandarin could work much better were he not some fabricated actor fronting Aldrich Killian. The rings are really a minor part of this. The Mandarin relies on his rings less than Iron Man relies on his armor. The beauty of the Mandarin are his resources, fear, wealth and intelligence. The writers of IM3 just plain goofed. They got cute. If they wanted Killian
I am not sure why you come to the conclusion that the real Mandarin wouldn't work in the real world Marvel universe. Certainly the Mandarin could work much better were he not some fabricated actor fronting Aldrich Killian. The rings are really a minor part of this. The Mandarin relies on his rings less than Iron Man relies on his armor. The beauty of the Mandarin are his resources, fear, wealth and intelligence. The writers of IM3 just plain goofed. They got cute. If they wanted Killian and Extremis to be the villain they could have just gone with that and left the Mandarin as a minor subplot setting up something else. But instead they kinda ruined a movie that was going well.
9:22AM on 10/29/2013
Yeah, I wanted the real Mandarin in Iron Man 3 too. However, the twist was somewhat clever. Certain viewers (not all) simply hope that the redaction was not made only to assuage PC U.S. viewers and to accommodate international investors, from producers to audiences. So, I am pleased to read this news. Good move, Marvel.

I think also that Marvel is wise to make this story a one-shot. Who saw Iron Man 3? Everybody. A general audience. However, who will see this one-shot most likely? The most
Yeah, I wanted the real Mandarin in Iron Man 3 too. However, the twist was somewhat clever. Certain viewers (not all) simply hope that the redaction was not made only to assuage PC U.S. viewers and to accommodate international investors, from producers to audiences. So, I am pleased to read this news. Good move, Marvel.

I think also that Marvel is wise to make this story a one-shot. Who saw Iron Man 3? Everybody. A general audience. However, who will see this one-shot most likely? The most dedicated fans buying the most deluxe Blu-Ray. The dedicated fans most dedicated to seeing all of the comic-book stuff on the 'net. These dedicated fans are the ones most upset about the Trevor-trick; they are the ones who know who the Mandarin is "supposed" to be. Therefore, Marvel is providing a one-shot, niche entertainment, for the company's niche audience, their base.
Also, this one-shot could present a provocative, thoughtful underlying discussion if the writers wish. In Iron Man 3, the Mandarin is played by one Caucasian and one person of mixed race (if Trevor is like Kingsley: Caucasian and also South Asian). Potentially, the "real" Mandarin is Chinese in this one-shot. And, he might dislike these two Caucasian idiots pretending to be him. Similarly, some audience members might resent when people whom they perceive as white idiots pretend to be people whom they are not. Some viewers are not bothered when Europeans play other races. Some viewers resent when whites represent a different race. Potentially, the Mandarin takes revenge on behalf of these viewers too.
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9:21AM on 10/29/2013

good...

I wonder how the non comics fans who loved the movie will react, though...
I wonder how the non comics fans who loved the movie will react, though...
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9:18AM on 10/29/2013
You know I hope this idea was thought up while they were developing "Iron Man 3" and not recently because it wasn't, it just shows that Marvel Studios are idiots for giving into angry fan boy pressure rather than having the balls stick to their guns to when it came to the film's twist.
You know I hope this idea was thought up while they were developing "Iron Man 3" and not recently because it wasn't, it just shows that Marvel Studios are idiots for giving into angry fan boy pressure rather than having the balls stick to their guns to when it came to the film's twist.
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9:28AM on 10/29/2013
Don't you think there's a difference between 'wanting to please the fan' and 'being pussies' ? I'd rather have them recognise there errors and correct it, than doing a George Lucas on us (screw you, that's my creation, I do what I want with it)...
Don't you think there's a difference between 'wanting to please the fan' and 'being pussies' ? I'd rather have them recognise there errors and correct it, than doing a George Lucas on us (screw you, that's my creation, I do what I want with it)...
9:48AM on 10/29/2013
They had a very good reason why that in the direction with that twist and it was a risk that served the story they were doing (it works with the themes and ideas that the film was exploring as well), by basically corrected due to whiny fan boys, it just makes them look like idiots for not sticking by what they did with it. That's alone has made me lose respect for them. Now they'll probably play it safe now instead of taking risks.
They had a very good reason why that in the direction with that twist and it was a risk that served the story they were doing (it works with the themes and ideas that the film was exploring as well), by basically corrected due to whiny fan boys, it just makes them look like idiots for not sticking by what they did with it. That's alone has made me lose respect for them. Now they'll probably play it safe now instead of taking risks.
10:01AM on 10/29/2013
I definitely agree to a point.
I definitely agree to a point.
9:07AM on 10/29/2013
I wonder if Marvel would make the REAL Mandarin as Chinese as a lot of box office target nowadays is in China. Would they piss off the Chinese? Nevertheless, I'd love to see Andy Lau or Anthony Wong as the real Mandarin.
I wonder if Marvel would make the REAL Mandarin as Chinese as a lot of box office target nowadays is in China. Would they piss off the Chinese? Nevertheless, I'd love to see Andy Lau or Anthony Wong as the real Mandarin.
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8:40AM on 10/29/2013

Time to piss some people off!

I think the only way The Mandarin can be considered Iron Man's "Joker" is due to nostalgia. He's more like Iron Man's "Lex Luthor" (a character that is supposed to be "The Joker" but has struggled to remain interesting and/or a credible threat in the long run)
I think the only way The Mandarin can be considered Iron Man's "Joker" is due to nostalgia. He's more like Iron Man's "Lex Luthor" (a character that is supposed to be "The Joker" but has struggled to remain interesting and/or a credible threat in the long run)
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8:30AM on 10/29/2013
I don't want to knock Iron Man 3 as a whole because the film clearly worked for most people. For myself, though, the film lost me at the reveal. They spent a lot of time and energy before the film's release assuaging the fears of purist fans by explaining the reasoning for updating the character, making him more of an amalgamation of various terrorist groups and world cultures (something which even purist fans accepted) and then promptly wasted all that potential for the sake of an unnecessary
I don't want to knock Iron Man 3 as a whole because the film clearly worked for most people. For myself, though, the film lost me at the reveal. They spent a lot of time and energy before the film's release assuaging the fears of purist fans by explaining the reasoning for updating the character, making him more of an amalgamation of various terrorist groups and world cultures (something which even purist fans accepted) and then promptly wasted all that potential for the sake of an unnecessary twist. It didn't feel organic, it felt like a case of the filmmaking team thinking they were smarter than the source material. Revealing the character to be a ruse is one thing, but actively playing the character for laughs is something else entirely. Marvel should feel bad about the way the character was portrayed, and if this turns out to be true I will get behind it wholeheartedly.
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8:25AM on 10/29/2013

Cool

At least they seem to be listening to the backlash by the real fans. Iron man 3 was a mess of a movie and Ben Kingsley was it's only saving grace.

The "twist" was a lazy attempt to be controversial that did not work, it would have worked with a lesser know em villain but not the mandarin. How this movie done so well at the box office baffles me! The worst marvel movie to date.
At least they seem to be listening to the backlash by the real fans. Iron man 3 was a mess of a movie and Ben Kingsley was it's only saving grace.

The "twist" was a lazy attempt to be controversial that did not work, it would have worked with a lesser know em villain but not the mandarin. How this movie done so well at the box office baffles me! The worst marvel movie to date.
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11:39AM on 10/29/2013
I felt the twist was awkwardly stupid and shifted the movie in a way that it no longer flowed story-wise. The last act of IM3 was rushed into action sequences and unlikely character development. Story wise, it wasn't needed. We knew from the beginning of the film that Aldrich was the villain. So there was no surprise to be had, except that the Mandarin was not the villain. And over-all it made the super-genius billionaire look like a dumb fool. How heroic.
I felt the twist was awkwardly stupid and shifted the movie in a way that it no longer flowed story-wise. The last act of IM3 was rushed into action sequences and unlikely character development. Story wise, it wasn't needed. We knew from the beginning of the film that Aldrich was the villain. So there was no surprise to be had, except that the Mandarin was not the villain. And over-all it made the super-genius billionaire look like a dumb fool. How heroic.
8:22AM on 10/29/2013
I think Marvel is a little unfairly criticized. Big risks don't always mean big rewards, but I feel like they are at least trying to surprise fans and go out of the box. That's more than I can say for most of the studios. This, though, is an integrity move. Good for them!

although, if its simply a rumor, I'm guessing there is a bit more fan hopefulness than accuracy in the report
I think Marvel is a little unfairly criticized. Big risks don't always mean big rewards, but I feel like they are at least trying to surprise fans and go out of the box. That's more than I can say for most of the studios. This, though, is an integrity move. Good for them!

although, if its simply a rumor, I'm guessing there is a bit more fan hopefulness than accuracy in the report
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8:17AM on 10/29/2013
If Marvel really wanted to make it up to us fans, they wouldn't have let Shane Black write such a ridiculous script.
If Marvel really wanted to make it up to us fans, they wouldn't have let Shane Black write such a ridiculous script.
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8:13AM on 10/29/2013
A Shawshank Redemption with Trevor Slattery?
A Shawshank Redemption with Trevor Slattery?
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8:07AM on 10/29/2013

Tidbit...

I would have thought Ben Kingsley is still the 'real Mandarin', since he's supposedly involved in all this...
I would have thought Ben Kingsley is still the 'real Mandarin', since he's supposedly involved in all this...
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8:26AM on 10/29/2013
Kingsley playing dual roles as The Mandarin and one of his assassion-bait doubles
Kingsley playing dual roles as The Mandarin and one of his assassion-bait doubles
8:39AM on 10/29/2013
Like "Trevor" said in the film they gave him plastic surgery, so you would have to expect the Mandarin to already look like Ben Kingsley.
Like "Trevor" said in the film they gave him plastic surgery, so you would have to expect the Mandarin to already look like Ben Kingsley.
9:18AM on 10/29/2013
My thought exactly...
Because, aside from the fact that he's not Asian, he could be a good Mandarin...
But, THEN AGAIN, if we complain that a black actor can't play Johnny Storm (I do), it would be hypocritical not complaining about a non-asian Mandarin...
My thought exactly...
Because, aside from the fact that he's not Asian, he could be a good Mandarin...
But, THEN AGAIN, if we complain that a black actor can't play Johnny Storm (I do), it would be hypocritical not complaining about a non-asian Mandarin...
10:59AM on 10/29/2013
With all the Chinese money that was poured into IM3, and the fact Asian audiences love Iron Man, I don't think they'll cast any Asians as a villain.
With all the Chinese money that was poured into IM3, and the fact Asian audiences love Iron Man, I don't think they'll cast any Asians as a villain.
2:10AM on 10/30/2013
Ben Kingsley's real name is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. His father is from Gujrati, India, where Gandhi grew up. That's why Kingsley was able to shave his head and look like Gandhi.
Ben Kingsley's real name is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. His father is from Gujrati, India, where Gandhi grew up. That's why Kingsley was able to shave his head and look like Gandhi.
8:06AM on 10/29/2013
Well I for one hated the twist in IM3, completely took me out of the story and ruined the rest of the film, as far as I was concerned.
So I welcome this news and look forward to see how it unfolds.
Well I for one hated the twist in IM3, completely took me out of the story and ruined the rest of the film, as far as I was concerned.
So I welcome this news and look forward to see how it unfolds.
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8:31AM on 10/29/2013
It was a bad movie all round!
It was a bad movie all round!