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Black Swan, True Grit and The Fighter disqualified for an Oscar?

Dec. 21, 2010by: Mike Sampson

BLACK SWAN, TRUE GRIT, THE FIGHTER and THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT have all been making hay at the various awards leading up to the Oscars but there's one award they won't be eligible to win: Best Original Score. All four films have been deemed ineligible for the category after the Academy ruled their works were "diluted by the use of tracked themes or other pre-existing music."

It's another blow to for popular composers like BLACK SWAN's Clint Mansell and TRUE GRIT's Carter Burwell who have fallen victim to the byzantine rules of the AMPAS. Two years ago, THE DARK KNIGHT was declared ineligible for Best Original Score only to have the Academy reverse its decision a month later after a public outcry (didn't matter in the end as TDK didn't even get the nomination).

There has also been some controversy about INCEPTION's score, which features a slowed down version of Edith Piaf's "Non, je ne Regrette Rien." Meanwhlie, the same issues that plagued BLACK SWAN - featuring excerpts of existing classical music - doesn't seem to be an issue for THE KING'S SPEECH, which was declared eligible despite featuring excerpts from existing works throughout the film.

Whatever the case, it should make for an interesting Oscar ceremony, especially if Daft Punk and Trent Reznor are nominated in the same category...

Source: Variety

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3:15AM on 12/22/2010

A R RAHMAN

I loved Inception's and Tron's music.

But honestly, after watching 127 hours, I can't think of any other name except A R RAHMAN.

It's the most personal, meditative, inspiring & transcendental music I've heard in a long time.

His music paints pictures!... and I think he should get ready for his third oscar!
I loved Inception's and Tron's music.

But honestly, after watching 127 hours, I can't think of any other name except A R RAHMAN.

It's the most personal, meditative, inspiring & transcendental music I've heard in a long time.

His music paints pictures!... and I think he should get ready for his third oscar!
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12:18AM on 12/22/2010
Honestly, Daft Punk should get this. I don't think there has been a score this year that has done more for a movie than this, except maybe Trent Reznor's and Hans Zimmer for Inception. But for my money, Daft Punk didn't just create a soundtrack for Tron, they created a new cd for their discography. But, like so many others, I doubt this will get in just because of the elitist attitude and the fact the Academy probably doesn't want any non-composers winning.
Honestly, Daft Punk should get this. I don't think there has been a score this year that has done more for a movie than this, except maybe Trent Reznor's and Hans Zimmer for Inception. But for my money, Daft Punk didn't just create a soundtrack for Tron, they created a new cd for their discography. But, like so many others, I doubt this will get in just because of the elitist attitude and the fact the Academy probably doesn't want any non-composers winning.
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11:58PM on 12/21/2010
I'll be shocked if Daft Punk gets a nomination. Best Original Score is one of the most insider exclusive categories of the academy. They rarely nominate first-timers, especially if the work is non-traditional. My guess is King's Speech, Inception, Never Let Me Go and Alice in Wonderland take four spots leaving one opening for Social Network, 127 Hours or How to Train Your Dragon.
I'll be shocked if Daft Punk gets a nomination. Best Original Score is one of the most insider exclusive categories of the academy. They rarely nominate first-timers, especially if the work is non-traditional. My guess is King's Speech, Inception, Never Let Me Go and Alice in Wonderland take four spots leaving one opening for Social Network, 127 Hours or How to Train Your Dragon.
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10:16PM on 12/21/2010

Meh...

The Oscars are a joke. They succumb to the typical "Oscar bait" flicks that come out every year and disregard mainstream hits just because of what they are. To me films are meant to be fun, entertaining, and tell a good story. In the end, that's all that matters. I stopped watching flicks according to Oscar noms years ago.
The Oscars are a joke. They succumb to the typical "Oscar bait" flicks that come out every year and disregard mainstream hits just because of what they are. To me films are meant to be fun, entertaining, and tell a good story. In the end, that's all that matters. I stopped watching flicks according to Oscar noms years ago.
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4:44PM on 12/21/2010
I don't know if Tron deserves it or not but I hope they are at least nominated so that we can see the Daft Punk guys sit in the audience in full costume. It would be hilarious to see two motorcycle helmets in the midst of a sea of celebs.
I don't know if Tron deserves it or not but I hope they are at least nominated so that we can see the Daft Punk guys sit in the audience in full costume. It would be hilarious to see two motorcycle helmets in the midst of a sea of celebs.
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4:14PM on 12/21/2010
Black Swans score was incredibly amazing, and fit the tone of the movie perfectly. It doesn't seem fair to disqualify it.
Black Swans score was incredibly amazing, and fit the tone of the movie perfectly. It doesn't seem fair to disqualify it.
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3:25PM on 12/21/2010
how did Clint Mansell not win for Requiem or The Fountain? Or Carter Burwell for In Bruges or Fargo?
how did Clint Mansell not win for Requiem or The Fountain? Or Carter Burwell for In Bruges or Fargo?
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3:09PM on 12/21/2010
I loved the Social Network, but no way does it deserve an oscar for the score (sorry NIN fans, there was much better out there). It's mediocre, and like most score nominees only gets nominated based on being attached to a great movie, there were better scores like How to Train Your Dragon that deserve the award. And the reason Mansell and the others are disqualified is because they wrote music based on pre-existing pieces. King's Speech uses pre-existing pieces in the film, but it also has an
I loved the Social Network, but no way does it deserve an oscar for the score (sorry NIN fans, there was much better out there). It's mediocre, and like most score nominees only gets nominated based on being attached to a great movie, there were better scores like How to Train Your Dragon that deserve the award. And the reason Mansell and the others are disqualified is because they wrote music based on pre-existing pieces. King's Speech uses pre-existing pieces in the film, but it also has an original score. That is the difference.
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1:57PM on 12/21/2010

The Social Network

Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross deserve the win.
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross deserve the win.
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1:46PM on 12/21/2010
While it's sad to see the AMPAS fucking over Clint Mansell and Carter Burwell again (I heard great things about his score for True Grit, and had no idea that it featured pre-existing material). However, this DOES open the field for a surprise Daft Punk nomination, which could be amazing. The Social Network (hopefully) has this one in the bag, although I can see an upset from Alexandre Desplat, considering he's been nominated a few times this past decade but has never won an award. Same goes for
While it's sad to see the AMPAS fucking over Clint Mansell and Carter Burwell again (I heard great things about his score for True Grit, and had no idea that it featured pre-existing material). However, this DOES open the field for a surprise Daft Punk nomination, which could be amazing. The Social Network (hopefully) has this one in the bag, although I can see an upset from Alexandre Desplat, considering he's been nominated a few times this past decade but has never won an award. Same goes for Hans Zimmer.
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12:46PM on 12/21/2010
Daft Punk all the way, baby! Or Trent Reznor... Both are rockin!
Daft Punk all the way, baby! Or Trent Reznor... Both are rockin!
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12:36PM on 12/21/2010
These films would only be fighting for a nomination anyway because the score for the social network was so amazing I cant see it not winning
These films would only be fighting for a nomination anyway because the score for the social network was so amazing I cant see it not winning
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12:25PM on 12/21/2010
I'm not sure why Trent isn't DQed too. In the Hall of the Mountain King is a piece by Grieg. That soundtrack wasn't fully original either. Personally I think it's a stupid rule and has cast a shadow on some of the best musicians of our time.
I'm not sure why Trent isn't DQed too. In the Hall of the Mountain King is a piece by Grieg. That soundtrack wasn't fully original either. Personally I think it's a stupid rule and has cast a shadow on some of the best musicians of our time.
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11:56AM on 12/21/2010

Wow...

I'll bet Trent Reznor had himself a nice cup of coffee when he heard that news this morning.

When you really think about it though, only INCEPTION, TRON LEGACY and THE SOCIAL NETWORK are the true contendors for Best Score. BLACK SWAN wasn't Chris' best work and the others aren't even talked about much.
I'll bet Trent Reznor had himself a nice cup of coffee when he heard that news this morning.

When you really think about it though, only INCEPTION, TRON LEGACY and THE SOCIAL NETWORK are the true contendors for Best Score. BLACK SWAN wasn't Chris' best work and the others aren't even talked about much.
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12:10PM on 12/21/2010
Well, as great as they were, I don't think it's really fair to call them the true contenders. Have you listened to The King's Speech and The Ghost Writer? Both Alexandre Desplat and both amazing (especially The Ghost Writer). I don't see how it's not getting as much love. I recommend youtubing the score—just be careful with spoilers in the score titles.

Along with those, Toy Story 3 and The Deathly Hallows had beautiful, beautiful music too.
Well, as great as they were, I don't think it's really fair to call them the true contenders. Have you listened to The King's Speech and The Ghost Writer? Both Alexandre Desplat and both amazing (especially The Ghost Writer). I don't see how it's not getting as much love. I recommend youtubing the score—just be careful with spoilers in the score titles.

Along with those, Toy Story 3 and The Deathly Hallows had beautiful, beautiful music too.
12:25PM on 12/21/2010
I understand what you're saying as well bud but I haven't heard any talk about those other scores or at least not as much. Whatever is the most talked about and popular will win. And that is between those three movies, I guarantee it.
I understand what you're saying as well bud but I haven't heard any talk about those other scores or at least not as much. Whatever is the most talked about and popular will win. And that is between those three movies, I guarantee it.
11:12AM on 12/21/2010
I can respect the rules and even though it would be nice for the scores to get recognition, most likely all of the films will get nominated for Best Picture and other multiple nominations as well. Oscars this year are going to be the best in awhile.
I can respect the rules and even though it would be nice for the scores to get recognition, most likely all of the films will get nominated for Best Picture and other multiple nominations as well. Oscars this year are going to be the best in awhile.
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10:20AM on 12/21/2010

Transparency: a good idea

If AMPAS, like the MPAA, was more consistent and transparent with their rules, you wouldn't have these situations. That said, I would love to see either Daft Punk or Trent Reznor take Best Original Score this year.
If AMPAS, like the MPAA, was more consistent and transparent with their rules, you wouldn't have these situations. That said, I would love to see either Daft Punk or Trent Reznor take Best Original Score this year.
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10:19AM on 12/21/2010

Damn

I was hoping Clint would get a nod this year. It's wrong that Kings Speech is allowed though, the rule has to apply to all, not just the ones they feel like it.
I was hoping Clint would get a nod this year. It's wrong that Kings Speech is allowed though, the rule has to apply to all, not just the ones they feel like it.
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10:12AM on 12/21/2010
Yeah, as everyone says, rules are rules, but why don't they apply to every film, like The King's Speech?
Yeah, as everyone says, rules are rules, but why don't they apply to every film, like The King's Speech?
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10:06AM on 12/21/2010
Makes sense. Rules are rules. As long as they're still up for the other awards, I doubt they'll bat an eye. I wonder if remixed music with samples of original pieces would be a loophole?
Makes sense. Rules are rules. As long as they're still up for the other awards, I doubt they'll bat an eye. I wonder if remixed music with samples of original pieces would be a loophole?
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10:00AM on 12/21/2010
Those are the rules. 'Black Swan' was based solely on Tchaikovsky. It was very appropriate, but can't be nominated.
Those are the rules. 'Black Swan' was based solely on Tchaikovsky. It was very appropriate, but can't be nominated.
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9:57AM on 12/21/2010
Funny, I feel the opposite. Daft Punk's sountrack was better.
Funny, I feel the opposite. Daft Punk's sountrack was better.
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9:30AM on 12/21/2010
As much as I loved Daft Punk's score in Tron Legacy, Trent Reznor's work in the Social Network definitely deserves it this year.
As much as I loved Daft Punk's score in Tron Legacy, Trent Reznor's work in the Social Network definitely deserves it this year.
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