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Check out the fantastic sizzle reels Joe Carnahan put together to pitch Daredevil (which Fox has now passed on)

Aug. 15, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

Daredevil brooding art

Hope it's not too early to break your heart a little.

There's no telling exactly why Fox passed on Joe Carnahan's take on The Man Without Fear - as he Tweeted Monday night, "Think my idea for a certain retro, red-suited, Serpico-styled superhero went up in smoke today kids.  We shall see. Time is NOT on anyone's side."  That being said, the main deal may have been that the studio loved what Carnahan had to show and say but that other commitments and contracts prevented him from being able to make the oft-mentioned date of October 10th.  That's when the rights are scheduled to revert to Marvel, and two months is simply not enough time to get everything together for what is meant to be a big-time, money-making superhero flick. 

Could Carnahan take his concept in turn to Marvel once the rights revert? It's possible.  Hopeful, in fact, as the sizzle reels shown below are f***ing spectacular and perfect.  They're the tone DAREDEVIL both needs and deserves right now, and if for whatever reason Carnahan doesn't eventually get the job then I hope whoever does takes a good long look at the really great work Carnahan did for his pitch.

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5:52PM on 08/16/2012
I must say, I like what I see, hopefully Marvel Studios does too. Now if only we could get Tarintino involved in this somehow....
I must say, I like what I see, hopefully Marvel Studios does too. Now if only we could get Tarintino involved in this somehow....
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1:56PM on 08/16/2012

I am not sure how the industry works...

but can't Carnahan theoretically direct for Marvel Studios?...

And, I kind of got the idea that the 70s vibe was the world that Daredevil was born into...ie, "young" Matt Murdock, being influenced by the world around him, no?
but can't Carnahan theoretically direct for Marvel Studios?...

And, I kind of got the idea that the 70s vibe was the world that Daredevil was born into...ie, "young" Matt Murdock, being influenced by the world around him, no?
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10:26AM on 08/16/2012

Sooo... Does this mean Fox keeps Galactus and Silver Surfer?

Damn.
Damn.
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9:22AM on 08/16/2012
I like the reels. But they aren't two separate reels. They are the same reel at two different points in the editing process. This is why the beginnings of each show a v1 and a v4. This is to indicate that version 1 and version 4. This is how editors at my TV station note when something has been revised. I don't work in Hollywood, though, so I suppose I could be wrong. But seeing only subtle differences in each reel... I'll bet that's what those mean.
I like the reels. But they aren't two separate reels. They are the same reel at two different points in the editing process. This is why the beginnings of each show a v1 and a v4. This is to indicate that version 1 and version 4. This is how editors at my TV station note when something has been revised. I don't work in Hollywood, though, so I suppose I could be wrong. But seeing only subtle differences in each reel... I'll bet that's what those mean.
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8:07AM on 08/16/2012
Daredevil Meets Black Dynamite
Daredevil Meets Black Dynamite
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1:52AM on 08/16/2012

Daredevil

A Man Without Fear is a Man without Faith, and a Man without Faith can be easily unmade.
A Man Without Fear is a Man without Faith, and a Man without Faith can be easily unmade.
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1:00AM on 08/16/2012
Daredevil was cooler back in the Frank Miller days, even more so than Smith's reboot in the early part of this century. I think a retro R-rated Daredevil would be welcome. Make a MAX movie line with Punisher, Daredevil, maybe Luke Cage and do with them what they've done with the mainstream heroes of the Avengers.
Daredevil was cooler back in the Frank Miller days, even more so than Smith's reboot in the early part of this century. I think a retro R-rated Daredevil would be welcome. Make a MAX movie line with Punisher, Daredevil, maybe Luke Cage and do with them what they've done with the mainstream heroes of the Avengers.
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9:07PM on 08/15/2012

Agreed, sucked.

Anytime an article at Joblo seems to be written by someone with no taste, expect it to be Alejandro Stepenberg. He completely ruined the Unpopular Opinion, an ongoing column that let me know I was reading the right blog because I shared the Unpopular Opinion consistently until this guy started writing on it. CMON JOBLO, stop letting this dude gentrify this blog.
Anytime an article at Joblo seems to be written by someone with no taste, expect it to be Alejandro Stepenberg. He completely ruined the Unpopular Opinion, an ongoing column that let me know I was reading the right blog because I shared the Unpopular Opinion consistently until this guy started writing on it. CMON JOBLO, stop letting this dude gentrify this blog.
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6:06PM on 08/15/2012
Looked kind of lame. Was expecting better
Looked kind of lame. Was expecting better
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2:57PM on 08/15/2012
That was a terrible video. Let it revert back to Marvel they will know what to do with the character. Kevin Smith did some great Daredevil stories, so there's lots of material to pick from.
That was a terrible video. Let it revert back to Marvel they will know what to do with the character. Kevin Smith did some great Daredevil stories, so there's lots of material to pick from.
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2:18PM on 08/15/2012

Marvel won't use the 70's theme

The whole point of getting Daredevil back was to get him in their current mix. It's going to be modern day, and it's going to be as violent as it can be w/o going too much off the path Marvel has already taken.
The whole point of getting Daredevil back was to get him in their current mix. It's going to be modern day, and it's going to be as violent as it can be w/o going too much off the path Marvel has already taken.
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2:05PM on 08/15/2012

That was fuckin kick ass...

Joe Carnahan is the man. End of story. I see why they passed on it, really gritty and violent. Not a money maker. Because you know HOLLYWOOD loveeeeessss their money. I say Joe just makes the fuckin movie himself and releases it himself. Those 4mins were fuckin way better then the whole movie of daredevil with ben affleck. I hope for the love of god this gets made.
Joe Carnahan is the man. End of story. I see why they passed on it, really gritty and violent. Not a money maker. Because you know HOLLYWOOD loveeeeessss their money. I say Joe just makes the fuckin movie himself and releases it himself. Those 4mins were fuckin way better then the whole movie of daredevil with ben affleck. I hope for the love of god this gets made.
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1:00PM on 08/15/2012

"There's no telling quite why Fox passed on Joe Carnahan's take on The Man Without Fear"

And then you give exactly the reason why.
And then you give exactly the reason why.
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12:53PM on 08/15/2012
Just give me some sort of kick-ass '70s avenger person, ccuz I'm a sucker for those movies. Or go ahead with the Death Wish remake (not '70s though). Anyway, say what you will about Carnahan's movies, he has a way of pumping me up just with his ideas, even if they don't always translate.
Just give me some sort of kick-ass '70s avenger person, ccuz I'm a sucker for those movies. Or go ahead with the Death Wish remake (not '70s though). Anyway, say what you will about Carnahan's movies, he has a way of pumping me up just with his ideas, even if they don't always translate.
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12:44PM on 08/15/2012
I can see why they didn't go with this, it's just edited footage of the first film mixed in with some Ninja Assassin footage and some other movies. It's not really that impressive. All it does is show a tone (dark) but doesn't really have any ideas behind it besides rehashing the first film. If I were a studio executive I would have passed on this, too.

I'm thinking Carnahan was FOX's last hope at getting this off the ground before the rights reverted. I just can't see them getting this
I can see why they didn't go with this, it's just edited footage of the first film mixed in with some Ninja Assassin footage and some other movies. It's not really that impressive. All it does is show a tone (dark) but doesn't really have any ideas behind it besides rehashing the first film. If I were a studio executive I would have passed on this, too.

I'm thinking Carnahan was FOX's last hope at getting this off the ground before the rights reverted. I just can't see them getting this together and in front of a camera in two months.
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6:27PM on 08/15/2012
This is a rip sizzle reel. It's how any big budget project is initially pitched to a studio. The only objective is to establish tone and give a sense of how it may be marketed. The reason they passed most certainly wasn't because it used Ninja Assassin footage.
This is a rip sizzle reel. It's how any big budget project is initially pitched to a studio. The only objective is to establish tone and give a sense of how it may be marketed. The reason they passed most certainly wasn't because it used Ninja Assassin footage.
12:39PM on 08/15/2012

Reverting to Marvel ? NOT SURE !

Don't forget FOX is negotiating with Marvel RIGHT NOW
Bargaining the rights for some characters in their franchises (some mutants, Galactus and Silver Surfer...) to revert to (or be used as well by) Marvel, in exchange for a longer window of their right upon DD !!
SO, it might be the reason why they don't seem to be such in a hurry about the reboot... They simply hope to have MORE TIME to do it !
Don't forget FOX is negotiating with Marvel RIGHT NOW
Bargaining the rights for some characters in their franchises (some mutants, Galactus and Silver Surfer...) to revert to (or be used as well by) Marvel, in exchange for a longer window of their right upon DD !!
SO, it might be the reason why they don't seem to be such in a hurry about the reboot... They simply hope to have MORE TIME to do it !
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1:01PM on 08/15/2012
They talked, it didn't happen. It's pretty much official.
They talked, it didn't happen. It's pretty much official.
4:30PM on 08/15/2012
Thanks for the info BojacRedleif
Thanks for the info BojacRedleif
11:46AM on 08/15/2012

Meh

What's all this fuss about ? Reading the headlines on all these websites, I was expecting an amazing clip of actual maybe "test" footage. This is only a clip for the mood of the movie Carnahan was going for... Nothing special there. Plus, setting it in the 70s ? Come on... Bendis showed us how Daredevil works, and that's the correct approach in my opinion. If the rights are actually back to Marvel, this is a great news, and placing Daredevil in the Avengers universe is the right move, but DD
What's all this fuss about ? Reading the headlines on all these websites, I was expecting an amazing clip of actual maybe "test" footage. This is only a clip for the mood of the movie Carnahan was going for... Nothing special there. Plus, setting it in the 70s ? Come on... Bendis showed us how Daredevil works, and that's the correct approach in my opinion. If the rights are actually back to Marvel, this is a great news, and placing Daredevil in the Avengers universe is the right move, but DD has to be kept in Hell's Kitchen. He should be independent from the Avengers even in the same universe. The Avengers are here for the extraordinary threats, and DD takes care of the mob, crooks and thieves on a small scale. It would be nice to have a scene in the next DD movie where he is asked to join the team and to watch him refuse. Plus Matt Murdock has a lot to do too, he doesn't have time to fight aliens, he has enough problems as an attorney. And also yakusa and ninjas... There you have it : that's my pitch. God, give me a budget of $100 million, and 'i'll write and direct that dark and gritty movie I have in my head... :) And I swear : no cgi.
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11:22AM on 08/15/2012

Marvel vs Fox? Sorry, Marvel wins (every time)

This is intriguing and I'd probably see it. Hell, it might even have been good but you can't argue with the mentality that the character has a better shot at greatness with Marvel than he ever would with Fox.
This is intriguing and I'd probably see it. Hell, it might even have been good but you can't argue with the mentality that the character has a better shot at greatness with Marvel than he ever would with Fox.
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10:46AM on 08/15/2012

Nah.

If this were Iron Fist and Luke Cage, I'd probably get behind a seventies setting, funk music and kung-fu.

However it's Daredevil. So I don't want any funk music at all please. Plus I'd much rather Marvel have these rights back than anyone over at Fox.
If this were Iron Fist and Luke Cage, I'd probably get behind a seventies setting, funk music and kung-fu.

However it's Daredevil. So I don't want any funk music at all please. Plus I'd much rather Marvel have these rights back than anyone over at Fox.
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10:23AM on 08/15/2012

Am i the only person happy the rights have reverted back?

This is great news, Daredevil is back with Marvel, sure Carnahan's take couldve been intresting but in the grand schemes of things its for the better.
This is great news, Daredevil is back with Marvel, sure Carnahan's take couldve been intresting but in the grand schemes of things its for the better.
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10:11AM on 08/15/2012
Oh gods, yes please.
Oh gods, yes please.
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9:39AM on 08/15/2012
This tone is perfect for Daredevil. Even if it was set in modern day it would work. I really hope Marvel goes after Carnahan when the rights revert back from Fox.
This tone is perfect for Daredevil. Even if it was set in modern day it would work. I really hope Marvel goes after Carnahan when the rights revert back from Fox.
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9:30AM on 08/15/2012
Daredevil movie set in the 1970s? I'm there! Furthermore, with this clip, Daredevil could be a great motion comic too.
Daredevil movie set in the 1970s? I'm there! Furthermore, with this clip, Daredevil could be a great motion comic too.
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9:30AM on 08/15/2012
I like the montage of what he had an idea for. Still unsure though.
I like the montage of what he had an idea for. Still unsure though.
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9:20AM on 08/15/2012

Not much here to get excited about

I can see why they passed. Too many elements from the original film , like Kingpin as the villain. I'm sure they want to go in a totally different direction from the original film which is the reason for the whole reboot in the first place. Setting in the 70s is a nice take but lets face it, no studio, including Marvel, is going to go for that. It's gotta be set in modern day if its going to hold up next to the current Marvel universe.
I can see why they passed. Too many elements from the original film , like Kingpin as the villain. I'm sure they want to go in a totally different direction from the original film which is the reason for the whole reboot in the first place. Setting in the 70s is a nice take but lets face it, no studio, including Marvel, is going to go for that. It's gotta be set in modern day if its going to hold up next to the current Marvel universe.
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9:18AM on 08/15/2012

Not much here to get excited about

I can see why they passed. Too many elements from the original film , like Kingpin as the villain. I'm sure they want to go in a totally different direction from the original film which is the reason for the whole reboot in the first place. Setting in the 70s is a nice take but lets face it, no studio, including Marvel, is going to go for that. It's gotta be set in modern day if its going to hold up next to the current Marvel universe.
I can see why they passed. Too many elements from the original film , like Kingpin as the villain. I'm sure they want to go in a totally different direction from the original film which is the reason for the whole reboot in the first place. Setting in the 70s is a nice take but lets face it, no studio, including Marvel, is going to go for that. It's gotta be set in modern day if its going to hold up next to the current Marvel universe.
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9:15AM on 08/15/2012
ignore
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9:15AM on 08/15/2012
ignore this one too
ignore this one too
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9:05AM on 08/15/2012
Stop with the fucking Romney advertisements. Seriously. Just fucking stop.

70s inspired Daredevil is a great idea though. Daredevil, as a character, doesn't really work well in the modern day.
Stop with the fucking Romney advertisements. Seriously. Just fucking stop.

70s inspired Daredevil is a great idea though. Daredevil, as a character, doesn't really work well in the modern day.
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9:16AM on 08/15/2012
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