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Childhood memories BUT BETTER, Lion King being re-released in 3D

06.22.2010

I would say this was inevitable, but really I don't quite understand it. Producer Don Hahn was recently speaking to Empire about a number of his upcoming projects (including ROGER RABBIT 2 which he claims will make fans “very, very, very happy”) and he let it slip that he’s actually working on a 3D conversion of THE LION KING to be released in theaters for extra cash.

This news joins the fact that BEAUTY AND THE BEAST is also slated for the same treatment, but honestly, I don’t quite understand it. He talks about how great the tech was, and how happy Tim Burton was with his NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS 3D conversion, but this seems different to me.

Other movies that have been upconverted to 3D are either live-action (ALICE IN WONDERLAND), CGI (TOY STORY) or stop-motion (NIGHTMARE). And I would argue that most of these looked pretty shitty when they were done. So how is a 3D conversion of a 2D animated movie going to work exactly? I’m racking my brain, but I can’t think of a film I’ve seen in that kind of format before. I’m picturing something like a school project diorama, with paper cut out lions in front of paper cut out hyenas in front of a background of hand drawn trees. Yeah, it’s 3D, I guess, but is it a worthwhile effect?

I can envision that one ballroom dance scene in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST looking pretty good, but I just can’t picture it otherwise. Am I crazy or does this not really make sense to anyone else? I get how you could make the background have depth, but the 2D characters themselves? I’ll have to see it to believe it, and maybe I'm just doubting the wonders of technology.

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Extra Tidbit: Honestly, I’d pay money to just go see THE LION KING in theaters again, in 2D.
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12:23AM on 06/23/2010
Fuck 3D. I went to see TOY STORY 3, deciding it would be the only film I bothered to spend the extra money on in that format because it's Pixar and Pixar never disappoints.

I liked the movie, but I missed the sharp and vibrant colors that come from standard Pixar flicks. The movie was dulled and there was NO NEED for it to be in 3D because it was perfectly fine as a story and didn't need the GIMMICK. That's all 3D is right now. A costly GIMMICK.
Fuck 3D. I went to see TOY STORY 3, deciding it would be the only film I bothered to spend the extra money on in that format because it's Pixar and Pixar never disappoints.

I liked the movie, but I missed the sharp and vibrant colors that come from standard Pixar flicks. The movie was dulled and there was NO NEED for it to be in 3D because it was perfectly fine as a story and didn't need the GIMMICK. That's all 3D is right now. A costly GIMMICK.
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12:33AM on 06/23/2010
I completely agree with you. Fuck 3D, it's a gimmick and adds nothing to the experience. Why pay extra to see a movie look inferior than it would on DVD or blu-ray in 2D?
I completely agree with you. Fuck 3D, it's a gimmick and adds nothing to the experience. Why pay extra to see a movie look inferior than it would on DVD or blu-ray in 2D?
11:48AM on 06/28/2010
So far most of the 3D that I've seen is strictly for the sake of the gimmick. I did enjoy seeing Toy Story 1 & 2 in 3D, but it didn't add a massive amount to it that was really worth paying the extra for (seeing them in the theater WAS worth it tho). So far the only movie that I've seen where the 3D added something worthwhile was Avatar. It added a lot of depth that helped to immerse you into that world. Until other filmmakers take that step of 3D being a part of the world and not a
So far most of the 3D that I've seen is strictly for the sake of the gimmick. I did enjoy seeing Toy Story 1 & 2 in 3D, but it didn't add a massive amount to it that was really worth paying the extra for (seeing them in the theater WAS worth it tho). So far the only movie that I've seen where the 3D added something worthwhile was Avatar. It added a lot of depth that helped to immerse you into that world. Until other filmmakers take that step of 3D being a part of the world and not a gimmick, I won't be seeing anything in 3D again.
11:03PM on 06/22/2010
I remember hearing about the process a while back on Cartoon Brew when they first announced they were doing Beauty and the Beast in 3D. This is what Hahn said:

“We didn’t want to do the layers of flatness. There are some old Chip and Dale cartoons that do that…I think what we we want to do is not do that, and create a truly dimensional environment. It’s a very hybrid approach. There’s some proprietary software that Disney created for this, and it actually bends the drawings around geometry.
I remember hearing about the process a while back on Cartoon Brew when they first announced they were doing Beauty and the Beast in 3D. This is what Hahn said:

“We didn’t want to do the layers of flatness. There are some old Chip and Dale cartoons that do that…I think what we we want to do is not do that, and create a truly dimensional environment. It’s a very hybrid approach. There’s some proprietary software that Disney created for this, and it actually bends the drawings around geometry. You take a character like Belle or the Beast and you create geometry in the computer that matches the image on the screen, and then bend the original movie around that geometry, be it the character or a background, a tree, or a building or whatever. That creates very dimensional, round faces.”

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Whether or not it ends up looking ridiculous is up in the air, maybe they'll get it to look good, but regardless, this is an unnecessary and blatant cash grab, nothing more. Disney is going back to their most recent glory days because they all but forgot how to make a decent movie without Lasseter's help.
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10:09PM on 06/22/2010
I want to see 2001 in 3d more than any other movie and tops on my list for disney would have to be Fantasia.
I want to see 2001 in 3d more than any other movie and tops on my list for disney would have to be Fantasia.
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10:02PM on 06/22/2010
Just give me the Blu-ray already. This is my favorite cartoon movie ever.
Just give me the Blu-ray already. This is my favorite cartoon movie ever.
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7:11PM on 06/22/2010

Uh... what?

Can somebody explain to me how you turn a 2D-animated movie into 3D? Has this actually ever been done before? I mean, I get CG-animated movies in 3D, and I get stop-motion movies in 3D. But seriously. This is going TOO far.
Can somebody explain to me how you turn a 2D-animated movie into 3D? Has this actually ever been done before? I mean, I get CG-animated movies in 3D, and I get stop-motion movies in 3D. But seriously. This is going TOO far.
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6:59PM on 06/22/2010
This is the worst thing ever.
This is the worst thing ever.
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6:37PM on 06/22/2010
Toy Story 1 and 2 lent themselves fairly well to a 3D revamp and helped gear a new generation for Toy Story 3, but really? At least piss on Lion King by making it live action AND 3D then being so fucking lazy to just convert to 3D to make an easy buck.
Toy Story 1 and 2 lent themselves fairly well to a 3D revamp and helped gear a new generation for Toy Story 3, but really? At least piss on Lion King by making it live action AND 3D then being so fucking lazy to just convert to 3D to make an easy buck.
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6:09PM on 06/22/2010
This is very unnecessary, I'll see my copy of the movie and pretend it's 3D.
This is very unnecessary, I'll see my copy of the movie and pretend it's 3D.
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5:57PM on 06/22/2010
Don't care what dimension I will see Lion King in theaters no matter what.
Don't care what dimension I will see Lion King in theaters no matter what.
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5:09PM on 06/22/2010
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
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5:07PM on 06/22/2010
If you don't like 3D then don't go see it. All new movies are still in 3D AND 2D, so until the day they only show 3D versions of films, let's not get too worked up. That said, The Lion King = 2D glory like nothing else.
If you don't like 3D then don't go see it. All new movies are still in 3D AND 2D, so until the day they only show 3D versions of films, let's not get too worked up. That said, The Lion King = 2D glory like nothing else.
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5:03PM on 06/22/2010
This will look not too far removed from how a magic eye picture works I assume, if they're keeping the characters and everything hand drawn/2D and not giving the entire film a CGI conversion.

In fairness, after watching Alice in Wonderland in the cinema, I felt that it all looked like that anyway. Like a moving pop up book, every different layer looking paper thin.
This will look not too far removed from how a magic eye picture works I assume, if they're keeping the characters and everything hand drawn/2D and not giving the entire film a CGI conversion.

In fairness, after watching Alice in Wonderland in the cinema, I felt that it all looked like that anyway. Like a moving pop up book, every different layer looking paper thin.
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4:54PM on 06/22/2010
Honest to god, I hope this shit stops soon. I would like to think that it is just a trend and one day wake up and realize it was all a bad dream. What's next? Aladdin? I hope NOT. Also, what ever happened to all the scifi/documentaries that were portrayed in IMAX 3D? That was what IMAX used to be all about...back in the day...
Honest to god, I hope this shit stops soon. I would like to think that it is just a trend and one day wake up and realize it was all a bad dream. What's next? Aladdin? I hope NOT. Also, what ever happened to all the scifi/documentaries that were portrayed in IMAX 3D? That was what IMAX used to be all about...back in the day...
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4:49PM on 06/22/2010
I'm just really looking forward to seeing the muted colors and blurred edges and having a headache and eye sores - it really makes the experience that much more memorable...
I'm just really looking forward to seeing the muted colors and blurred edges and having a headache and eye sores - it really makes the experience that much more memorable...
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5:09PM on 06/22/2010
u must be miserable every time you force yourself to go see a 3D movie
u must be miserable every time you force yourself to go see a 3D movie
5:38PM on 06/22/2010
yep. quite miserable.
yep. quite miserable.
4:47PM on 06/22/2010

3D is overrated and well overpriced

I advise everyone to go see Toy Story 3 (if you haven't already done so), it's a wonderful heartwarming story with a great cast of characters that really put love into their roles, but . . . don't waste your time or money with the 3D. It is one of the better 3D movies, but it felt completely unnecessary in the film and served no purpose. Not to mention the movies that don't do it well like Clash of the Titans. Imho, i would see the movie in 2D, and use the money you saved to go get a Wendy's
I advise everyone to go see Toy Story 3 (if you haven't already done so), it's a wonderful heartwarming story with a great cast of characters that really put love into their roles, but . . . don't waste your time or money with the 3D. It is one of the better 3D movies, but it felt completely unnecessary in the film and served no purpose. Not to mention the movies that don't do it well like Clash of the Titans. Imho, i would see the movie in 2D, and use the money you saved to go get a Wendy's Baconater. Those things are the shit.
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4:30PM on 06/22/2010

When will it stop...

Agree with most here that I'd definitely see this in 2D if re-released. Don't give a shit about 3D and hate plunking down the extra $$ for it. Besides, it looks shitty when added after the fact.
Agree with most here that I'd definitely see this in 2D if re-released. Don't give a shit about 3D and hate plunking down the extra $$ for it. Besides, it looks shitty when added after the fact.
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4:12PM on 06/22/2010

This is one film I don't mind seeing in 3D

I can see bugs flying everywhere and shit.
I can see bugs flying everywhere and shit.
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4:06PM on 06/22/2010

like...

the scene when rafiki holds up baby simba. there will probably be some birds flying at your face or something.
the scene when rafiki holds up baby simba. there will probably be some birds flying at your face or something.
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3:44PM on 06/22/2010
I'd be willing to check both of these out again, regardless of their dimensional status. I'm one of very, very few who isn't bothered by the 3D onslaught. Just like all filmmaking tools, it can be used with respect and talent, or it can be treated like a gimmick. This does sound a bit gimmicky, but I honestly just want to see Beauty and the Beast on the big screen again, 3D or not!
I'd be willing to check both of these out again, regardless of their dimensional status. I'm one of very, very few who isn't bothered by the 3D onslaught. Just like all filmmaking tools, it can be used with respect and talent, or it can be treated like a gimmick. This does sound a bit gimmicky, but I honestly just want to see Beauty and the Beast on the big screen again, 3D or not!
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3:41PM on 06/22/2010

Add my name to the "I'd see it in 2D" bandwagon.


As much as I hate the current wave of 3D whoring, the one good thing to come out of it is being able to see old favorites on the big screen again.

As much as I hate the current wave of 3D whoring, the one good thing to come out of it is being able to see old favorites on the big screen again.
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3:32PM on 06/22/2010
My sis and I would EASILY see this again in 2D. I was borderline obsessed with this movie as a kid, and it has a dear place in my heart.
My sis and I would EASILY see this again in 2D. I was borderline obsessed with this movie as a kid, and it has a dear place in my heart.
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3:11PM on 06/22/2010
I'm so fucking tired of 3-D.
I'm so fucking tired of 3-D.
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3:04PM on 06/22/2010
I think the stampeed scene in the Lion King was computer animated so that would probably look pretty cool converted.
I think the stampeed scene in the Lion King was computer animated so that would probably look pretty cool converted.
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2:50PM on 06/22/2010
Beauty and the beast used a little bit of computer work when it was being animated as was lion king so there is definately some good chance this could be upconverted to 3d. What makes me curious is what they intend to do roger rabbit. That one has some serious potential to be either great or insanely bad.
Beauty and the beast used a little bit of computer work when it was being animated as was lion king so there is definately some good chance this could be upconverted to 3d. What makes me curious is what they intend to do roger rabbit. That one has some serious potential to be either great or insanely bad.
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2:48PM on 06/22/2010

Agree with tidbit

I would love to see The Lion King in theaters again in 2D. 3D doesn't work on my eyes so none of it matters to me.
I would love to see The Lion King in theaters again in 2D. 3D doesn't work on my eyes so none of it matters to me.
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2:41PM on 06/22/2010

That's sacred ground!

I don't like this. The Lion King is iconic, almost sacred ground in terms of animation. Tweaking with it doesn't sit well with me. About 3D...I can't seem to picture it either, but yes, I'm guessing that it's like what you've mentioned.."school project diorama". I'd LOVE to see the 2D Lion King in cinemas again. If watching Toy Story 3 was extremely nostalgic and breathtaking, it'll be incredible just to sit in a cinema again and watch The Lion King. The ORIGINAL version, not the Disney special
I don't like this. The Lion King is iconic, almost sacred ground in terms of animation. Tweaking with it doesn't sit well with me. About 3D...I can't seem to picture it either, but yes, I'm guessing that it's like what you've mentioned.."school project diorama". I'd LOVE to see the 2D Lion King in cinemas again. If watching Toy Story 3 was extremely nostalgic and breathtaking, it'll be incredible just to sit in a cinema again and watch The Lion King. The ORIGINAL version, not the Disney special edition with that added song in the middle.
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2:49PM on 06/22/2010
There is nothing more that I hate than those fucking additional songs. My friend had the Beauty and the Beast DVD, and I refused to watch it... but then I realized you could choose between the original and the new.

I just don't understand how these people think audiences enjoy it.
There is nothing more that I hate than those fucking additional songs. My friend had the Beauty and the Beast DVD, and I refused to watch it... but then I realized you could choose between the original and the new.

I just don't understand how these people think audiences enjoy it.
3:27PM on 06/22/2010
Well Said Polarboy.
Well Said Polarboy.
2:41PM on 06/22/2010
Make that shit look hella better. Fuck that 2D shit, make my eyes sore now that i've been exposed to that avatar.
Make that shit look hella better. Fuck that 2D shit, make my eyes sore now that i've been exposed to that avatar.
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2:44PM on 06/22/2010
Well at least now I know there are people out there who actually LIKE 3D. I always knew it made cash but thought people were being deceived by the marketing. I stand corrected. Call me old-school for a 23year old, but I'm not buying into this 3D phase yet.
Well at least now I know there are people out there who actually LIKE 3D. I always knew it made cash but thought people were being deceived by the marketing. I stand corrected. Call me old-school for a 23year old, but I'm not buying into this 3D phase yet.
2:40PM on 06/22/2010
From what Disney's said, they're using a new system that separates the characters from the backgrounds and then wraps them around 3D meshes for each frame, creating fake-3D versions of the characters. I'll believe it when I see it.
From what Disney's said, they're using a new system that separates the characters from the backgrounds and then wraps them around 3D meshes for each frame, creating fake-3D versions of the characters. I'll believe it when I see it.
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2:38PM on 06/22/2010

Don't care about 3D...

But I saw Lion King in theaters when I was a kid and will def. see it again no matter what dimension it is in if re-released in theaters.
But I saw Lion King in theaters when I was a kid and will def. see it again no matter what dimension it is in if re-released in theaters.
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