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Chris Pratt thinks Suicide Squad tried to introduce too many characters

04.25.2017

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Marvel Studios has been fortunate as the public have, by and large, embraced their movies and the many wonderful characters found within; Warner Bros.' DCEU hasn't been quite so lucky, but to be fair, they don't have nearly as many movies under their belt at this point. Still, Marvel's method obviously seems to work and many critics seem to think that Warner Bros. is jumping the gun by launching right into multi-hero epics without giving audiences a chance to appreciate the characters as individuals.

David Ayer's SUICIDE SQUAD introduced close to a dozen new characters to the DCEU in one fell swoop and GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2 star Chris Pratt told io9 that he believes the film suffered because of it.

I really like all the Warner Bros. movies. I think they’re really cool and I’m not a real tough critic on those movies. But one of the flaws might have been they were introducing too many characters in Suicide Squad. They spent 10 minutes telling us why should we care about these characters, rather than creating trilogies for each character and convincing us to care about the characters.

I'm not sure that each and every member of the SUICIDE SQUAD team needed their own trilogy, but I certainly get where Pratt is coming from. There's only so much you can do in two hours with so many characters to juggle, and it wouldn't have hurt to have known a little more about Deadshot (Will Smith), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) or some of the others. Chris Pratt went on to give Marvel credit for taking the time it needs in order to develop their franchises.

It’s like hardwood. They grew it really slowly so it’s strong. They didn’t create The Avengers first. They did Iron Man. And they tested it to make sure it worked. Then they did [Iron Man II] and [Iron Man III], then they did Cap, and then they did Thor. And they created a thirst for these characters, and that’s when they put them in The Avengers.

Pratt admits that successfully crafting a major superhero franchise is "really f**king hard to do" and that it's "kind of a miracle that anyone's got it right." Obviously SUICIDE SQUAD has its fans, but even director David Ayer admitted that the movie wasn't without its flaws and wished that he had a time machine to craft a more grounded story. Thankfully the film was successful enough to warrant a sequel, as well as a spinoff featuring Harley Quinn, so I would hope that the lessons learned on SUICIDE SQUAD will be put to good use.

It will be interesting to see where the DCEU goes from here, especially with standalone features centering around Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), Aquaman (Jason Momoa), The Flash (Ezra Miller), Cyborg (Ray Fisher) and Batman (Ben Affleck) on the way. It will be nice to spend some one-on-one time with these characters, and although it seems a little backwards, I would hope that their appearances in the upcoming JUSTICE LEAGUE will fuel the excitement for their solo flicks. We've got two DCEU movies to look forward to this year with WONDER WOMAN hitting theaters on June 2, 2017 and JUSTICE LEAGUE following on November 17, 2017.

What are your thoughts on the state of the DCEU and do you think that SUICIDE SQUAD suffered by introducing so many characters at once?

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10:13PM on 04/26/2017
Why doesn't he just focus on his movie. All he has is Marvel to fall back on after Parks and Rec, other than there is nothing going on for him.
Why doesn't he just focus on his movie. All he has is Marvel to fall back on after Parks and Rec, other than there is nothing going on for him.
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4:10AM on 04/27/2017
Not a Jurassic World fan?
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3:26PM on 04/27/2017
Not a Lego Movie fan?
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1:14PM on 04/26/2017

The world thinks Suicide Squad introduced too many Z-Listers

Seriously, none of the characters were interesting. They were just poorly written, not given anything to do and the ones with powers were pansies and didn't want to use them until the last 10 minutes.

The world wouldn't miss any of these characters if they committed suicide. Hopefully SS2 is just about them killing themselves.
Seriously, none of the characters were interesting. They were just poorly written, not given anything to do and the ones with powers were pansies and didn't want to use them until the last 10 minutes.

The world wouldn't miss any of these characters if they committed suicide. Hopefully SS2 is just about them killing themselves.
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1:00PM on 04/26/2017

It's about understanding how to use a mcguffin.

McGuffin məˈɡʌfɪn / noun: an object or device in a film or a book which serves merely as a trigger for the plot.
GOTG has characters centered around one objective merely for personal gain or vendetta, during the course of the film you do learn about them their faults, motivations and that each of them is ultimately lacking a place to belong they fail but eventually come together as a team to be something larger than themselves and defeat the mcguffin.

Suicide is a
McGuffin məˈɡʌfɪn / noun: an object or device in a film or a book which serves merely as a trigger for the plot.
GOTG has characters centered around one objective merely for personal gain or vendetta, during the course of the film you do learn about them their faults, motivations and that each of them is ultimately lacking a place to belong they fail but eventually come together as a team to be something larger than themselves and defeat the mcguffin.

Suicide is a mixed bag of paint by number backstory, a lot of male posturing, a chick whose ass cheeks are falling out, the entire world against them, and a ghetto Joker, they shoot their way out of their video game enviroment... boring.
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10:49AM on 04/26/2017
wonder how Suicide Squad still performed better than GOTG in terms of worldwide collections ( without release in China)
wonder how Suicide Squad still performed better than GOTG in terms of worldwide collections ( without release in China)
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9:15AM on 04/26/2017

Pratt's making no sense

Because his own Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a bunch of new characters to an unsuspecting world and ended up with a successful movie. I think the real problem was that they didnt make a good movie. Also, they commited the mistake of trying to explain each characters origin, you don't always need to know everything on the first movie. Guardians kept a certain mystery to the characters, they left enough fodder for the next film, while Suicide Squad tried giving all of these origins to us in
Because his own Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a bunch of new characters to an unsuspecting world and ended up with a successful movie. I think the real problem was that they didnt make a good movie. Also, they commited the mistake of trying to explain each characters origin, you don't always need to know everything on the first movie. Guardians kept a certain mystery to the characters, they left enough fodder for the next film, while Suicide Squad tried giving all of these origins to us in five seconds of screen time. That was their mistake.
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1:16PM on 04/26/2017
You can introduce characters and make a good movie. Suicide Squad did not do that. They introduced cardboard cutouts of people with zero personality and you just didn't care about them.
You can introduce characters and make a good movie. Suicide Squad did not do that. They introduced cardboard cutouts of people with zero personality and you just didn't care about them.
3:42PM on 04/26/2017
He makes total sense buddy. They focused first and foremost on making an entertaining movie and giving us 5 main characters that we could enjoy. In Squad they gave us like 10 characters in where they only focused in 2 (Deadshot, Harley) and the rest were garbage. The movie had the Snyder Syndrome of weak sauce story with no comprehension of the characters, a "dark and gritty" (which they still think is cool) color palette, and people will still vote no to the DCCU with their wallets as long as
He makes total sense buddy. They focused first and foremost on making an entertaining movie and giving us 5 main characters that we could enjoy. In Squad they gave us like 10 characters in where they only focused in 2 (Deadshot, Harley) and the rest were garbage. The movie had the Snyder Syndrome of weak sauce story with no comprehension of the characters, a "dark and gritty" (which they still think is cool) color palette, and people will still vote no to the DCCU with their wallets as long as they keep making these uninteresting dark movies.
7:51AM on 04/26/2017
They had an opportunity to create such an amazing narrative with these characters, especially Harley and Joker. What I would've done is have a dynamic building relationship between everyone besides Harley. While that story is going on, have Dr Harley Quinn, who has just appointed her most important case of all, slowly being seduced by the Joker and start questioning her life and everything in it. At the end, have Harley Break Joker out and there is a sequel. Then at the end of the sequel,
They had an opportunity to create such an amazing narrative with these characters, especially Harley and Joker. What I would've done is have a dynamic building relationship between everyone besides Harley. While that story is going on, have Dr Harley Quinn, who has just appointed her most important case of all, slowly being seduced by the Joker and start questioning her life and everything in it. At the end, have Harley Break Joker out and there is a sequel. Then at the end of the sequel, Joker leaves Harley, Harley is caught and forced to join the squad. FInally, the third movie would be about going after Joker and questioning if Harley is going to screw over her team or actually catch Joker, since he abandoned her.
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6:10AM on 04/26/2017
He's stating the obvious that DC is trying to skip the groundwork, as in just serve us dessert without the entree, its seems great at first, but then you crash, Marvel gave us the appetizer, entree, dessert, and an extra side of fries....
DC is going big and fast and I really dont see these movies being huge enough moneymakers to warrant the cost. I will say that I believe Aqua Man and Wonder Woman can do the trick in turning this franchise around....LOL, didnt expect to ever say that.
He's stating the obvious that DC is trying to skip the groundwork, as in just serve us dessert without the entree, its seems great at first, but then you crash, Marvel gave us the appetizer, entree, dessert, and an extra side of fries....
DC is going big and fast and I really dont see these movies being huge enough moneymakers to warrant the cost. I will say that I believe Aqua Man and Wonder Woman can do the trick in turning this franchise around....LOL, didnt expect to ever say that.
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1:54AM on 04/26/2017
I'm a big fan of GotG and Chris Pratt, but didn't GotG introduce a bunch of characters to a mainstream population generality not familiar with any of the characters? Other than The Collector, who briefly appeared at the end of the second Thor movie IIRC, who else from GotG had a entire movie dedicated to them? Suicide Squad had bad writing; too many characters wasn't the issue. (Batman: Assault on Arkham was one of my favorite DCUAOM films and it introduced just as many characters and told a
I'm a big fan of GotG and Chris Pratt, but didn't GotG introduce a bunch of characters to a mainstream population generality not familiar with any of the characters? Other than The Collector, who briefly appeared at the end of the second Thor movie IIRC, who else from GotG had a entire movie dedicated to them? Suicide Squad had bad writing; too many characters wasn't the issue. (Batman: Assault on Arkham was one of my favorite DCUAOM films and it introduced just as many characters and told a better story.)
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9:39PM on 04/25/2017

He's not wrong but it's far more complex than that...

There are a lot of problems in this movie which culminate together to make it the shit-fest that it is (in my opinion).
There are a lot of problems in this movie which culminate together to make it the shit-fest that it is (in my opinion).
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9:32PM on 04/25/2017
One of many problems that movie had
One of many problems that movie had
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9:29PM on 04/25/2017
Wonder if he was actually making an inside joke since the first Guardians of The Galaxy was also introducing all of its characters for the first time.
Wonder if he was actually making an inside joke since the first Guardians of The Galaxy was also introducing all of its characters for the first time.
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9:48PM on 04/25/2017
True. Although, even then Guardians of the Galaxy one had a team of five heroes (six if you count Yondu) and we were introduced to the gradually, where as Suicide Squad gave us a team of eight (nine if you count Scott Eastwood's character, and ten if you count Slipknot) and introduced them all in rapid succession within the first 20 minutes.

Guardians of the Galaxy also had two clear cut villains (Ronan and Nebula) that we followed throughout the film. In Suicide Squad we follow Amanda
True. Although, even then Guardians of the Galaxy one had a team of five heroes (six if you count Yondu) and we were introduced to the gradually, where as Suicide Squad gave us a team of eight (nine if you count Scott Eastwood's character, and ten if you count Slipknot) and introduced them all in rapid succession within the first 20 minutes.

Guardians of the Galaxy also had two clear cut villains (Ronan and Nebula) that we followed throughout the film. In Suicide Squad we follow Amanda Waller throughout, but then also get glimpses of Joker and this thugs, plus Enchantress and Incubus -- three separate villain threads which never really tie together. This isn't me trying to rag on Suicide Squad, just that I get where Pratt's coming from, even considering that Guardians also introduced a team of characters without trilogies behind them.
9:21PM on 04/25/2017
He's definitely not wrong, but I hate comparing Marvel and DC to one another because I find it redundant and pointless to compare each franchise to one another at this point since Marvel is much more ahead in their established universe and storyline and the fact that they're completely different in tone.

Like I said, he's definitely not wrong. But Suicide Squad could have benefited with some more screen time towards certain characters (the Joker for example).
He's definitely not wrong, but I hate comparing Marvel and DC to one another because I find it redundant and pointless to compare each franchise to one another at this point since Marvel is much more ahead in their established universe and storyline and the fact that they're completely different in tone.

Like I said, he's definitely not wrong. But Suicide Squad could have benefited with some more screen time towards certain characters (the Joker for example).
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